At 1/20/11 01:13 AM, Turkeybean wrote:At 1/20/11 12:55 AM, LittleWashu wrote: But that is what happens when people try to fly with the eagles when they are really scraping with the chickens.I still don't see why Rage's thread needed to be shut down. There were more than enough users utilizing that thread for its intended purpose, cleaning up Newgrounds.
When the review mods were continually bombarded with hundreds upon hundreds of reviews being flagged that blatantly weren't abusive in the pile of the reviews with the most flags. They realised that something had to be done and even though the guilty were being punished, they just bawwed all over the forums about losing their precious whistle levels.
Yes, I agree that there was still some shred of good in that thread, but it deserved to die, let all of Newgrounds be overrun with the cancer of the whistle whores.
At 1/20/11 07:21 AM, LittleWashu wrote: But we can't cling to the past and we must move forward. So now all we can do is flag abusive reviews on our own and if you are serious about it send a PM to a review mod to bring the abusive reviews to their attention.
If you've got a deity or gold whistle, it will automatically come to our attention in due course. No need to bring it to our attention, unless it's a really bad case of a serial review spammer or something.
At 1/20/11 01:05 PM, Jolly wrote: Why not make posting reviews that aren't abusive a bannable offense? I think that should be done.
I'll put a mod spin on this. For example, you post a link and say "3rd from the bottom is abusive". People scroll down and don't bother reading the review, they just flag it. If the review mod is quick to this, the review is removed and someone else comes along, flagging the review that is now 3rd from the bottom, which wasn't abusive. The review mod has more work to do and gets pissed. We're back to square one, while the poster in the first place hasn't done anything wrong, though now them might be liable for a ban.
Then Rage's thread could be re-opened. Of course, occasionally, exceptions would be made if the review could easily be mistaken for abusive review, but otherwise you would get banned from the BBS for a few days.
No, Rage's Gift is never going to be reopened. It's just not needed any more.
Or maybe the people that blindly flag the reviews, then complain about it, could be banned from the BBS?
I believe they were.
At 1/20/11 01:19 PM, Ronald-McDonald-LoL wrote: While Rage's thread will never be reopened, I do think something needs to be done about the review system. It's one of my biggest pet peeves. I used to write spammy one-liner reviews, but I changed.
I hate those shitty reviews as well, but what can you do? Tom says that he wants helpful reviews to stay and those that say "OMG, I LUV THIS!!!", rated 10 will stay, as they heap praise on the ego of the author, while "OMG I H8 THIS, DIE IN A FIRE!!!", rated anything will get you banned. Where's the justice?
At 1/20/11 01:45 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote:At 1/20/11 01:32 PM, Jolly wrote: Why was that removed, anyways?It wasn't as flexible as the current system, ironically. People were forced to give things scores for aspects the submission didn't have, i.e. giving a violence / humour score for a game that wasn't meant to be funny / violent would basically force people to downvote it for no good reason.
Not really, they just scored it 10 10 10 10 10 10 for an average of 10. I tried to be efficient with those, but it never worked.
At 1/20/11 06:19 PM, Rabid-Animals wrote:At 1/20/11 03:37 PM, LittleWashu wrote: First there is now a time limit on reviews before you have to leave them alone.I'm pretty positive that's not true.
Not that I'm aware of. Sure, there's a time limit on how long it should be between a review being submitted and when you can ban the writer, but I've never seen anything about a time limit on flash reviews being called abusive.
At 1/20/11 08:11 PM, Jolly wrote:At 1/20/11 08:07 PM, idiot-buster wrote: Yes it's true, I believe if its older then 2 years to just leave it alone. Don't quote me on the how old, since it's been years that rage's thread was locked.Why? I don't think age should matter, because it's still an abusive review.
If you find abusive reviews from back in the day, flag them. We will still work through them.
At 1/20/11 11:59 PM, LittleWashu wrote: Last I heard it is less then six months maybe even shorter then that. This is because the Admins wanted the mods to focus on serving users who break the rules review bans. Also they figured that if the mods erased all the old reviews history would be lost.
I've not heard that and I've just searched our little mod forum for it and everything. Flag away and we'll deal with them as we see fit.