At 5/30/09 04:02 PM, Coop83 wrote:

At 5/30/09 03:50 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: How exactly would letting everyone know where their whistle stands be prone to abuse and put more work on the Review moderation team? That's something on which I am still not clear.

It concentrates on the stats more than the actual purpose of the whistle. Much the same as people who post for the sake of getting a high post count.

But see, allowing someone to view their whistle points is no different than letting someone view their whistle level, B/P level, or experience level. A number will only quantify it, allowing those see how many more points they need. How is quantifying it any different than throwing a picture of a level and saying "now go for the next level!"? People who see that they have a Silver whistle and are stat whores will try for the Gold or Deity whistles, whether they see that they are 5413 points away from Gold or not.

At 5/30/09 03:09 PM, Little-Rena wrote: Anyway, personal business has been affecting me the past few months, real life comes before the internet right?

Don't worry, we all have real lives, and unfortunately, sometimes they get in the way. But obviously, real life goes first :)

At 5/30/09 08:24 PM, TheThing wrote:

At 5/30/09 04:02 PM, Coop83 wrote:

At 5/30/09 03:50 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: How exactly would letting everyone know where their whistle stands be prone to abuse and put more work on the Review moderation team? That's something on which I am still not clear.

It concentrates on the stats more than the actual purpose of the whistle. Much the same as people who post for the sake of getting a high post count.

But see, allowing someone to view their whistle points is no different than letting someone view their whistle level, B/P level, or experience level. A number will only quantify it, allowing those see how many more points they need. How is quantifying it any different than throwing a picture of a level and saying "now go for the next level!"? People who see that they have a Silver whistle and are stat whores will try for the Gold or Deity whistles, whether they see that they are 5413 points away from Gold or not.

Well, this may not be the best excuse, but I think that those who only worry about the stat will stop after reaching the deity whistle. But if there was a number, there just wouldn't be a maximum to reach, and people would want to have more and more whistle points. People who only worry about the points will spend a lot of time looking for abusive reviews (which is good to some extent), but then, when there are no more abusive reviews, they'll start to see abusive things where there are not (kind of what happened to Rage's topic), and review mods will have a lot more of work to do clearing the flags on non-abusive reviews.

Now, I think there are B/P points to encourage people to vote on under judgment submissions even if they are Supreme Commanders (otherwise flashes would be stuck under judgment forever). And the experience is not a stat that can be abused (even if it was abused in the past with the referral system), because you just have to vote on 5 submissions. And as there are many levels, some times with huge gaps between them, I think the experience stat is necessary.

I think that maybe it would be better if there weren't whistle levels. In my opinion, if you're flagging reviews for the stat, then you just shouldn't help the site and let other people who actually care about it do it.

I think the mods are right I remember a lot of these points being made in Rage's thread about showing whistle points. But I guess all mods have different ideas as to what is abusive or not. I found loads of abusive reviews from the new one on the front page called Exodus Tyson Punched Out lots of bad reviews. The first new entry in The Bastard's collection for 2 years I think. This I thought was somewhat sick but still it is not excuse to leave abusive reviews. FF been submitting lots today.

I feel that it'd be helpful to clarify a few points at this time.

1. The roster of the Barracks is rather varied. We have people from all over the world, from teenagers to adults, with all sorts of backgrounds. Our members range from normal users to spam group members to review mods. But there's one thing we all have in common, one reason why we're all here in this group. And it has nothing to do with stats.

We're all here to make Newgrounds a better place.

The purpose of being on the Portal or flagging abuse isn't to get shiny images on our profiles, it's to keep this site clean. When it comes to helping this site, B/P ranks and whistle levels are nothing but information that, by themselves, mean very little. While they are qualifications for membership, they're not the deciding factors---I check a lot more than stats when I make my final call on prospective recruits. There are plenty of Supreme Commanders and Deity Whistlers that I wouldn't want anywhere near the EGB, because they earned their stats for the wrong reasons, and confused the reward for the reason.

Make sure you're here for the right reason. Helping make Newgrounds a good place is why the Barracks exists. Ranks and whistles mean jack shit to that mission statement. Voting power and flag strength are not our goals, not our reasons, and they're not means to an end. They're just rewards and the least of our concerns.

2. Despite their differences, both the B/P and whistle systems have a bit in common, mainly that both voting and flagging are meant to be individual decisions. Forming groups to target specific people or submissions leads to bias and abuse, the exact damn thing we're supposed to be fighting. This potential for influence on an individual function is the reason why blam clubs are no longer allowed, why discussing one's votes on currently UJ flash is not allowed in the Barracks, and why we no longer have abusive review lists---not Rage's thread, not in the EGB, not anywhere.

3. As has been explained before, targeting specific reviews is the same as targeting specific flashes---it's mass voting. A group takes over for what's supposed to be an individual decision, and when that group is wrong, the negative effects of that mistake are multiplied, both of them and their target. That the group can also be right is irrelevant; better for a dozen abusive reviews to remain on the site than one legit review be wrongly flagged.

Remember that the whistle system is NOT the B/P system---with flash submissions, there's only a brief window when they can be deleted; with reviews, the probability of an abusive review being deleted approaches one as time nears infinity. There's no time limit to abuse getting deleted, meaning that there's no reason to swarm a review. It'll either be (A) never seen, and thus harmless, or (B) seen by other people, who will flag it and eventually get it deleted just as the system intends.

4. Remember that the mods---all of them, BBS and review and audio and icon---are human, and thus have different ideas on what constitutes rulebreaking. They follow the same rulebook, and that rulebook might get clearer over time, but since they're human (as opposed to this absolute hive mind that some people are craving), their decisions won't always be the same every single time.

There's nothing wrong with that.

And it's not that difficult to deal with, either. When you're in the BBS, you easily avoid being banned by posting in a way that would satisfy the stricter mods. When you see a review, you only flag it if you're sure that any review mod would find it abusive. And just like you shouldn't post in a thread that you know some mods might consider to be spam, you shouldn't flag anything you aren't sure any mod would delete.

IF YOU HAVE DOUBT, DON'T DO IT. THE WORLD WILL NOT EXPLODE IF YOU MISS A WHISTLE POINT. THE NEXT PERSON TO SEE THE QUESTIONABLE REVIEW WILL NOT SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST.

5. As for showing whistle points...lolno. There is no reason whatsoever to allow that. That would make whistling into "just another stat", as opposed to the maintenance function it's supposed to be. If you're whistling properly, you wouldn't give a shit if the whistle levels disappeared tomorrow; you don't need a damn number.

On that note, I wouldn't mind if blam/save totals got squished into one single point total, except that it would make save-whores harder to spot and keep away from my precious Barracks. Points are not the reason, points are the reward.

At 5/31/09 01:58 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote: I feel that it'd be helpful to clarify a few points at this time.
(Followed by a long, yet thoughtful and helpful, speech)

Well said, indeed. Between my diatribe and yours, it all boils down to this: if you're a member of the EGB, you should stay focused on doing the right thing - the points and levels are secondary. We should learn individually to make mature decisions on blamming and protecting and blowing the whistle. You are not interested in the quantity, but the quality, of what we, as EGB members, do for the barracks. It's not just about the stats - it's about keeping the portal clean.

You don't expect perfection - but you do expect that we all give it our best effort, to be fair and intelligent and to keep the reputation of the EGB as an upstanding and outstanding community, working for the good of Newgrounds - not for ourselves.

It's not an easy job, and not everyone can do it - that's why it's called the "Elite Guard"...

Thank you for your clarification and leadership.

*Salutes*

At 5/30/09 06:48 PM, byteslinger wrote: However, I would like to interject that just because someone "visits the portal every minute of their waking lives" isn't always doing it just for the B/P. While I am a stat-whore to some degree (alright, maybe a big degree) my whistle actions are slow and deliberate.

I was referring to someone like me in that respect - I've been a denizen of the portal for some 4 years now and despite having gone beyond Supreme Commander, I'm still committed to the enjoyment of the portal, as it should be.

Not all stat-whores are bad. But unfortunately, many are.

*cough*AfroUnderscoreStud*cough*

My suggestion to all those who want to see whistle points: forget about it. Just keep whistling conservatively and fairly (when in doubt, don't)

Hell, if in doubt, PM a review mod. If you catch them in a good mood, they will tell you to whistle them and will go to the review straight away and delete them.

At 5/30/09 08:24 PM, TheThing wrote:

At 5/30/09 04:02 PM, Coop83 wrote: It concentrates on the stats more than the actual purpose of the whistle. Much the same as people who post for the sake of getting a high post count.

But see, allowing someone to view their whistle points is no different than letting someone view their whistle level, B/P level, or experience level.

Ah, but from my point of view, it really is. The colour of the whistle that you have does tend to indicate how you are with abusive reviews, but it's reflective on a number that very few people know about - the number of flags that you raise on an abusive flash or review. The more you have, the closer it rises toward the threshold for being drawn to mod / admin attention.

This information is on a need to know basis and when you put it like that:

NOBODY REALLY NEEDS TO KNOW

It may well be a case that people want to know, but at the end of the day, their wants will not affect the whistle system.

A number will only quantify it, allowing those see how many more points they need. How is quantifying it any different than throwing a picture of a level and saying "now go for the next level!"?

Don't view it as a level then.

People who see that they have a Silver whistle and are stat whores will try for the Gold or Deity whistles, whether they see that they are 5413 points away from Gold or not.

I understand what you mean - I'd quite like a Gold whistle, it would go nicely with my golden moderator look. When there was a thread in the review mods' lounge, there were concerns about my validity, as I'd not got a gold whistle. To be honest, I'd only occasionally dropped into Rage's Thread and hit a few posts worth of reviews - I found it laborious and boring.

Now that I am a moderator, I do spend a little more time looking over reviews and my whistle may well benefit from it in the long term, but that's only as an aside.

At 5/31/09 01:58 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote: 5. As for showing whistle points...lolno. There is no reason whatsoever to allow that. That would make whistling into "just another stat", as opposed to the maintenance function it's supposed to be. If you're whistling properly, you wouldn't give a shit if the whistle levels disappeared tomorrow; you don't need a damn number.

Well said, Slash. We need to remember the purpose of the whistle, rather than the stat itself.

"I am not a number, I am a free man!"

On that note, I wouldn't mind if blam/save totals got squished into one single point total, except that it would make save-whores harder to spot and keep away from my precious Barracks. Points are not the reason, points are the reward.

I'd object to that, as it would make it more difficult to follow the save whores. That and my coveted Blams total would become amalgamated with my Saves Total, which any Tom, Dick or Harry can gain these days.

It has little to do with the fact that my Blams and Saves list updates would cease to exist :'(

At 5/31/09 01:58 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote:

On that note, I wouldn't mind if blam/save totals got squished into one single point total, except that it would make save-whores harder to spot and keep away from my precious Barracks. Points are not the reason, points are the reward.

During this entire conversation I had that same exact idea in my head. I was thinking, "What if they took away save/blam points?" I'm sure the portal would barely ever be visited and figured that having the points all under one category might be the best idea.

It may make quite a bit people upset such as the people who update the lists in the wi/ht forum (Coop), but it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if they changed it. I'd support it 100%.

You know Coop, I kinda agree, in this world we're all nothing but numbers and forms to get anything done, at least here in the USA, I'm not sure how it's done in the UK, and I guess I am getting tired of being just a signature/number/or another form.

Also, who does the rosters(rooster, there see Krev, I didn't forget) and what day or they done?

At 5/31/09 01:08 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Also, who does the rosters(rooster, there see Krev, I didn't forget) and what day or they done?

They are the first day each month (i.e. tomorrow). Probably I'll post it about 14.30 NG time.

Wow, a monthly roster?! Man, I kinda preferred the weekly rosters of the NGPD. I got nothing else to add to this. Other than, I guess I'll just have to get used to a new format. It's gonna take a while, but I'll adjust.

Also, even though I lost my bronze whistle (for the 2nd time, T_T; really sorry about that) does that mean I'm no longer officially a member or what?

At 5/31/09 10:39 AM, Corky52 wrote: During this entire conversation I had that same exact idea in my head. I was thinking, "What if they took away save/blam points?" I'm sure the portal would barely ever be visited and figured that having the points all under one category might be the best idea.

As much as I love the B/P points, I must say that if they decided to do this, the portal would die a slow and painful death. Sure, you would have people like me who would carry on in the portal for the good of the place, but I think that the system works as it is - perhaps a tweak to the voting thresholds would help, but I've been harping on about that for too long now.

It may make quite a bit people upset such as the people who update the lists in the wi/ht forum (Coop), but it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if they changed it. I'd support it 100%.

I'd be out of two jobs, but since Bahamut does tend to the total B/P list, it wouldn't be all that bad.

At 5/31/09 01:08 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: You know Coop, I kinda agree, in this world we're all nothing but numbers and forms to get anything done, at least here in the USA, I'm not sure how it's done in the UK, and I guess I am getting tired of being just a signature/number/or another form.

I'm more than just a stat whore - I've been trying to get myself noticed for something other than my numbers. That's why I'm writing stuff for the advent of the lit portal and doing some voice acting work.

Also, who does the rosters(rooster, there see Krev, I didn't forget) and what day or they done?

Ismael does the rosters. once per month is the time scale, but don't forget these lists take a few hours to put together, so go easy on the list makers ;)

At 5/31/09 02:18 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Also, even though I lost my bronze whistle (for the 2nd time, T_T; really sorry about that) does that mean I'm no longer officially a member or what?

No, it doesn't. Just work on getting your whistle back, but don't do anything rash.

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  Under Judgment

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In your opinions, a flash (not instantly spawning popups) with only the text "visit my website" & with the description a direct URL to said website and orders to visit it, is it just plain rubbish, or is it whistle-worthy and under which category?

At 5/31/09 05:38 PM, KrevZabijak wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/49 7711
In your opinions, a flash (not instantly spawning popups) with only the text "visit my website" & with the description a direct URL to said website and orders to visit it, is it just plain rubbish, or is it whistle-worthy and under which category?

I'd say it's just rubbish, and apparently other people think the same because it got blammed ;)

Nice find Krev, one less spam flash in the portal makes it much safer for the rest of us. I wasn't here to see the whole thing, but I trust your judgment for stolen/malicious/unsuitable flashes.

At 5/31/09 05:38 PM, KrevZabijak wrote: In your opinions, a flash (not instantly spawning popups) with only the text "visit my website" & with the description a direct URL to said website and orders to visit it, is it just plain rubbish, or is it whistle-worthy and under which category?

It's probably just rubbish. I wouldn't have whistled it, anyway.

Thanks for the heads up.

At 5/31/09 09:00 PM, KrevZabijak wrote: Thanks for the heads up.

Holy hell! Where did you come from? Master Sergeant at just three months?

Well done you lucky thing I have got 401 more till I reach Staff Sergent but again well done. Talking about whistle points Little-Rena nice see you here again been a while since you were last here. Anyway he has made an excellent second guide very helpful

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  NG Flagging Guide 2

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  An improved guide to flagging!

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I had the luck of seeing it UJ usefull information here about abusive reviews.

Sorry for going AWOL. I hope I'll be more present now that my summer holidays have begun. Heh, England don't start for another month or two..I love Ireland :)

At 5/31/09 02:18 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Wow, a monthly roster?! Man, I kinda preferred the weekly rosters of the NGPD. I got nothing else to add to this. Other than, I guess I'll just have to get used to a new format. It's gonna take a while, but I'll adjust.

I agree. If you want, and if the members agreed, I could do a smaller, weekly roster (just top gain and all that) and Ismael could still do his epic monthly rosters. I was NGPD Roster Manager for a few months, so I'd need no introduction too rosters..

Up to you, I guess.

It was kind of nice when we had a weekly roster update, but there is a big problem with having one so often. People start using this club as some sort of B/P club and it's not really what it's about at all.

It got to the point where people only posted here when the updates were present. That's why a monthly one is better in my opinion. Once a month is good enough for me, but I don't speak for everyone. If this were to be a vote I'd vote for the monthly update so we don't focus as much on who gets the most B/P and we focus more on stopping abuse.

Yea, I wouldn't mind the weekly roster(rooster? lmao) long time no see Insanimation, how you been dude?

At 6/1/09 12:16 PM, Corky52 wrote: It was kind of nice when we had a weekly roster update, but there is a big problem with having one so often. People start using this club as some sort of B/P club and it's not really what it's about at all.

Fair point, but, in my opinion, people should be able to make of the club what they want. If they want it simply as a place to encourage them to B/P, then so be it, but it is they who are losing, as they are not getting the full benefits of the club.

A bi-monthly roster could work as well..

At 6/1/09 12:20 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Yea, I wouldn't mind the weekly roster(rooster? lmao)

I vote for Monthly Rooster. Agreeing with the point stated above, it would encourage proper behavior a tad, indeed.

Aw come on Lizzardis, a monthly rooster, rooster, it's funny. I still vote for the weekly or bi-weekly rooster though.

At 5/31/09 01:33 PM, Ismael92 wrote:

At 5/31/09 01:08 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Also, who does the rosters(rooster, there see Krev, I didn't forget) and what day or they done?

They are the first day each month (i.e. tomorrow). Probably I'll post it about 14.30 NG time.

Hey, 14:30 NG time is 2:30 PM, in case you weren't aware. You're an hour late, so where's our cock(rooster, I'm taking the scientific approach.)?

I'd like to say the following:

First of all, when I started updating the roster, the updates were already monthly. I kept it in that way because it was easier for me, and because at that time I wasn't sure at all of how to do it and it used to take me more time than it takes now.

You can go ahead and call me lazy for choosing the easier option, but I'd like to remind you that this is a voluntary position. I do this because I want to, I like help people and I want to help people, and this is a nice way to do it: keeping a long-time tradition that other people (and myself) enjoy.

No-one else could make the rosters, so I thought "hey, lets check this out. If I'm good at this, then I'll keep doing it". At any point, anyone can come here and ask me to let him/her update the roster weekly if he/she wants to do it and thinks it's the best for all of us. People sometimes come and complain about this being a monthly update, because yeah, it's much easier to complain when there are other people doing things and it's not oneself.

This is mainly in response to the recent situation, which happened last month too. Especially in response to the comment "Wow, a monthly roster?!"
Yeah, a monthly roster. We're all doomed, we're going to die.

So, if you (people at the EGB) like it that way, I can (from now on) update the roster weekly. Maybe we should make a poll at our forums.

At 6/1/09 03:38 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote:

At 5/31/09 01:33 PM, Ismael92 wrote:

At 5/31/09 01:08 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Also, who does the rosters(rooster, there see Krev, I didn't forget) and what day or they done?

They are the first day each month (i.e. tomorrow). Probably I'll post it about 14.30 NG time.

Hey, 14:30 NG time is 2:30 PM, in case you weren't aware. You're an hour late, so where's our cock(rooster, I'm taking the scientific approach.)?

Hey, I have other things to do too, in case you weren't aware. Also, I wrote "Probably" in my post. PROBABLY, not for sure. MAYBE, given the right conditions, I can post it about 14.30 NG time. But due to several reasons, I had other things to do. That's why this is my first post on NG today. That's why I haven't deposited my experience yet.

Barracks Roster 1st June 2009
I've added the repeat offenders thingy, Corky mentioned it last month and I think it's a good idea :)

Milestones:
Sentio - 55,000 B/P
Little-Rena - 45,000 B/P, 30,000 Saves
Sir-Nuts - 19,000 B/P
RohantheBarbarian - 14,000 B/P
DumbassDude - 9,000 B/P
KrevZabijak - 7,000 B/P, 5,000 Blams
BenwaHakubi - 4,000 B/P
Lizzardis - 4,000 B/P

Promotions:
RohantheBarbarian - Captain
DumbassDude - Sgt. Major
KrevZabijak - Master Sergeant
BenwaHakubi - Corporal
Lizzardis - Corporal

Entering the list:
Insanimation
captain-dickhead

The List:
No. B/P / Gain / Average / Change / Username
01] 74,386 | 0,534 | 17.8 | --7.27 Phantom Sup. Com.
02] 57,794 | 1,342 | 44.7 | --0.60 Coop83 Sup. Com.
03] 56,127 | 1,206 | 40.2 | + 24.70 Sentio Sup. Com.
04] 47,432 | 0,722 | 24.1 | --11.60 Idiot-Finder Sup. Com.
05] 46,571 | 1,662 | 55.4 | + 54.20 Little-Rena Sup. Com.
06] 37,793 | 0,000 | 00.0 | + 0.00 EagleRock Sup. Com.
07] 34,368 | 0,010 | 00.3 | + 0.23 SlashFirestorm Sup. Com.
08] 31,330 | 0,159 | 05.3 | --0.83 Shanus Sup. Com.
09] 29,847 | 2,545 | 84.8 | --2.07 byteslinger Com. 1
10] 27,752 | 0,438 | 14.6 | --23.17 Corky52 Com. -1
11] 27,719 | 1,335 | 44.5 | + 10.43 aldlv Com.
12] 25,443 | 0,119 | 04.0 | --18.60 idiot-buster Gen.
13] 22,437 | 0,031 | 01.0 | --22.10 lilhunter03 Lt. Gen
14] 19,355 | 0,494 | 16.5 | --3.63 Sir-Nuts Col.
15] 16,385 | 0,115 | 03.8 | + 0.10 ever-vigilant Mjr.
16] 14,640 | 0,969 | 32.3 | --1.00 RohantheBarbarian Cpt.
17] 13,363 | 0,001 | 00.0 | + 0.03 DarkSoldier Lt.
18] 10,677 | 0,000 | 00.0 | --2.37 PantyWipe Sgt. Mjr.
19] 09,988 | 1,426 | 47.5 | + 15.23 DumbassDude Sgt. Mjr. 1
20] 09,574 | 0,000 | 00.0 | + 0.00 Lotus Sgt. Mjr. -1
21] 07,380 | 1,879 | 62.6 | + 0.43 KrevZabijak Mas. Sgt. 8
22] 07,367 | 0,001 | 00.0 | --0.10 PossiblePancakes Mas. Sgt. -1
23] 07,187 | 0,102 | 03.4 | --0.53 TheNossinator Mas. Sgt. -1
24] 07,069 | 0,008 | 00.3 | --0.80 Marsupial Mas. Sgt. -1
25] 06,580 | 0,039 | 01.3 | --5.87 ismael92 Stf. Sgt. -1
26] 06,461 | 0,036 | 01.2 | --1.50 sonofkirk Stf. Sgt. -1
27] 06,226 | 0,004 | 00.1 | --1.23 Shoopufzilla Stf. Sgt. -1
28] 05,849 | 0,005 | 00.2 | + 0.10 TheThing Sgt. -1
29] 05,812 | 0,032 | 01.1 | --0.33 HeavenDuff Sgt. -1
30] 05,591 | 0,106 | 03.5 | + 0.03 phantomlassuk Sgt.
31] 05,440 | 0,030 | 01.0 | --0.33 fc-thun-fan Sgt.
32] 04,687 | 0,077 | 02.6 | --0.20 SoulMaster71 Cpl.
33] 04,265 | 0,908 | 30.3 | + ???? Lizzardis Cpl. 2
34] 04,060 | 0,186 | 06.2 | + 0.77 BenwaHakubi Cpl.
35] 03,903 | 0,016 | 00.5 | --0.93 I-Love-Caitlyn 1st Pte. -2
36] 03,289 | ???? | ???? | + ???? captain-dickhead 1st Pte.
37] 02,778 | 0,036 | 01.2 | + 0.87 puddinN64 Pte.
38] 02,673 | ???? | ???? | + ???? Insanimation Pte.

Top 5 Gainers
byteslinger - 2,545
KrevZabijak - 1,879
Little-Rena - 1,662
DumbassDude - 1,426
Coop83 - 1,342

Top gainers, repeat offenders: byteslinger (5), Coop83 (4), KrevZabijak(2)

Total Gain for the month = 16,573
That's 552.4 points per day, or 15.3 per day per member.

May update.

I haz 5544 saves, not blams <3

Cool list, and the repeat list is also a nifty idea. Well done!

*Stares out at Byteslinger.* *Shakes fist*

It's those darn blam-worthy flashes that pass, and ..stuff...

You forgot to put me in the roster. Coop already told me that even though I lost my bronze whistle again, I'm still an official member.

At 6/1/09 04:47 PM, Ismael92 wrote:

thanx a lot... =)

Barracks Roster 1st June 2009
I've added the repeat offenders thingy, Corky mentioned it last month and I think it's a good idea :)

pretty nice... =D

Milestones: congrats everyone

Promotions: congrats everyone...

Entering the list:
Insanimation
captain-dickhead

Hi to both...

The List:
11] 27,719 | 1,335 | 44.5 | + 10.43 aldlv Com.

1335, so i need 2 months like this to get EGSC... cool

Top 5 Gainers

congrats ppl that spend more time than me on NG

byteslinger - 2,545
KrevZabijak - 1,879
Little-Rena - 1,662
DumbassDude - 1,426
Coop83 - 1,342

didn't enter by 7 points? shoot...

Top 6 Gainer
aldlv - 1.335

May update.

linky... cool