Well, mutant, from your post in the ngpd, I can see that you don't particularily care about it, hey neither did I. But I want to show you what you have been doing.

First of all, heres your post, just so you know what I am talking about.

At 1/27/06 09:16 PM, Mutant_BusterJr wrote:

well the way i vote is very simple. i only give out 5's or 0's. if the thing is utter crap, 0. if it looks good or has any other good qualities, 5 it is. try making a controversy for that!

Damn it mutant, didn't you learn anything from what happened to me? I don't have much to say, so I will just quaote what major punk said about this voting method.

At 1/14/06 02:46 PM, Major_punk wrote: No, its best for your stats. And its actually the worst thing you can do for your stats because if you continue this they will be rest back to 0. But since in the big picture you are a new user with low stats. You dont very much attention, but eventually
when you get a high ranking specifically the Top 300. Your name will be put on a big list for everyone to see.
I know admins can see your voting habits but im not 100% sure of mods but its possible They (admins) can see what you voted for every single submission you ever voted on.
And heres a nice quote you should be interested in:

the new voting system is operational and has been tracking votes since the evening of 10/13/02. - WadeFulp

Think about it mutant, are you a member of the ngpd? Or some asshole who just wants to raise his stats.
I used to vote like this as well, and I regret doing it, I hope one day you will stop as well.

-Captain rslegend

At 1/28/06 08:43 AM, Rslegend wrote: I think level 23 is cool...
Oh well, I think alot of the level icons are cool.
The only high level ones I don't like are 20 and 17. I don't really like 11 either, but thats not very high.

i'm not too much of a fan of 15, which i'll soon be at...but 16 and 17 make it worth while for me.

At 1/28/06 09:13 AM, Grizzley wrote:

) well, 365 days a yearx10=3650. 22,226/3650=around 6.1 years to reach level 30. (rough estimates) it'll be here sooner than you think. :) i just did this in spare time. but for users like me, i might get it in 10 years because i miss a few days here and there. but two summers from now will be the biggest gap for me.

I don't usually say this but... noob mistake. Haven't you noticed that the points you need to move to the next level rise every other day or so? With every deposit of the 30 level users the bar is raised for every level starting the bar to reach level 10. I don’t know the point rise per level but I'm sure some one has it... I believe at my level it rises about one point a day.

At 1/28/06 09:27 AM, Ghost_Phantom wrote: I don’t know the point rise per level but I'm sure some one has it... I believe at my level it rises about one point a day.

I've got it (and yes, it was a noob mistake he made):

level10 1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0-1
level11 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-0-1-1-1
level12 2-1-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-1-2-1-2
level13 2-2-2-2-2-2-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-1-2-2
level14 2-3-2-3-2-2-3-2-2-3-2-3-2-2-3-2-2-3-2-3
level15 3-3-2-3-3-3-3-3-3-2-3-3-3-3-3-3-2-3-3-3
level16 3-3-4-3-3-4-3-3-4-3-3-4-3-3-4-3-3-4-3-3
level17 4-3-4-4-4-4-3-4-4-4-4-3-4-4-4-4-3-4-4-4
level18 4-4-4-5-4-4-5-4-4-4-5-4-4-5-4-4-4-5-4-4
level19 4-5-5-5-4-5-5-5-4-5-5-5-4-5-5-5-4-5-5-5
level20 6-5-5-5-6-5-5-5-6-5-5-5-6-5-5-5-6-5-5-5
level21 6-6-5-6-6-6-5-6-6-5-6-6-6-5-6-6-5-6-6-6
level22 6-7-6-6-6-6-7-6-6-6-6-7-6-6-6-6-7-6-6-6
level23 7-6-7-7-7-6-7-6-7-7-6-7-7-6-7-7-7-6-7-6
level24 7-7-7-8-7-7-7-7-7-7-8-7-7-7-7-7-7-8-7-7
level25 8-7-8-7-8-8-7-8-8-7-8-7-8-8-7-8-8-7-8-7
level26 8-8-8-8-8-8-9-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-9-8-8
level27 8-9-8-9-9-8-9-8-9-8-9-9-8-9-8-9-8-9-9-8
level28 9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-a-9-9-9
level29 9-a-9-a-9-a-9-a-9-a-9-a-9-a-9-a-9-a-a-9
level30 a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a

I hate looking at level 20 or higher increase on that chart. :(

At 1/28/06 09:27 AM, Ghost_Phantom wrote: I don't usually say this but... noob mistake....I believe at my level it rises about one point a day.

<:( shit, i forgot about that. GAWD EFFIN DAMNIT! now i feel like an ass lick. but anyways, that is true. i didn't put that into consideration. my mistake. i think all the levels go up by one because same for my level. but i'm not sure.

At 1/28/06 09:34 AM, Bahamut7 wrote:

I've got it (and yes, it was a noob mistake he made):

level10 1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0-1

I hate looking at level 20 or higher increase on that chart. :(

I'm sorry, I don't understand your chart at all.

At 1/28/06 09:36 AM, Rslegend wrote: I'm sorry, I don't understand your chart at all.

Whenever the level 30 user(s) deposit, that is how much EXP the requirement for each level that will increase. It goes on a three week rota of how much the EXP requirement for levels 10 - 30 increase each day.

At 1/28/06 09:34 AM, Bahamut7 wrote: I've got it (and yes, it was a noob mistake he made):

holy god dude. that's a big point increase. now my determination is dwindling and fading. nah, not really. as many points are added, i'll still reach it, hopefully before i die.

should everybody just say it all together and get it out? :)

I was sort of right... Almost a point a day. Thanks for the list. This should be helpful in the future.

Oops... We both forget to mention in the chart that a stands for 10 points. I saw the list before and it had that whole a=10 legend.

At 1/28/06 12:33 AM, Bigmac_318 wrote:

At 1/28/06 12:15 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Another BB fileswap...sigh...I don't remember what it was beforehand, myself...hopefully somebody else does.

If it was this one http://www.newground..m/portal/view/291936

then I know.
It was a game called alien escape.
It was a lunar lander type game.

I swear it wasn't that. It was a stolen, decent stick-fight flash. The only reason I know it was stolen is because Fragment left a review stating so. If I ever see it again, I'l be sure to let you guys know.

Good morning everybody! *salutes*

Portal isn't all that active, so I will get to flagging reviews.

At 1/28/06 09:13 AM, Grizzley wrote:

) well, 365 days a yearx10=3650. 22,226/3650=around 6.1 years to reach level 30. (rough estimates) it'll be here sooner than you think. :) i just did this in spare time. but for users like me, i might get it in 10 years because i miss a few days here and there. but two summers from now will be the biggest gap for me.

Hah...not quite there, Staff Sergeant. Look at this:

http://planetbob.net/ng/ngxp.php

According to this, you will make level 29 in roughly 114 years and a few months. As far as making Level 30, you currently have over 11,000 people in line for the Level 30 position.

This is why I B/P and not worry about leveling.

You are pretty close to getting to level 10, I see. Congratulations sir.

At 1/28/06 11:23 AM, EagleRock wrote: Hah...not quite there, Staff Sergeant. Look at this:

aye sir, i know. the thing is, i was wrong so <insert noob insult here>. i'm not good with numbers or information at all sometimes. especially when i glance over it, and not actually looking at it. but hey, people make mistakes, and life goes on.

At 1/28/06 11:39 AM, Rslegend wrote: You are pretty close to getting to level 10, I see. Congratulations sir.

Yes, yes. Soon enough, Police Captain...it'll be nice (except that I don't like the glove, but I'm not one to complain...)

That being said, do you get a boost in XP if you pass a level or no? I would assume not, but I figured I'd ask.

At 1/28/06 11:45 AM, Grizzley wrote: aye sir, i know. the thing is, i was wrong so <insert noob insult here>.

Now, now...noone was insulting you...I just wanted to set it straight, Staff Sergeant. You may have noticed I'm not quick to flame on forums, as it is rather pointless. We all were n00bs once, and I am always willing to help point people in the right direction.

Also, your mistake wasn't really that n00bish, anyway, so don't even worry.

i'm not good with numbers or information at all sometimes. especially when i glance over it, and not actually looking at it. but hey, people make mistakes, and life goes on.

I, too, was quite appalled when I learned it would take a whole FOUR YEARS to get to the upper levels on NG, then was brutally checked when I found out that it not only would take more than 4 years, but that I would probably never live to see that day. Oh well...life goes on like you said.

EagleRock, this is not a social call. The mafia could use your help. This unfortunately doesn't include all barracks members. We need our own website and private forums. The project started and looked like this. But it won't be finished because that person left the mafia. I know you have a lot of experience with that work and I would like to ask of you this favor. If you accept it will not be forgotten by any of us. If you are too busy we do understand. Please respond ASAP.

At 1/28/06 11:52 AM, EagleRock wrote: Now, now...noone was insulting you...I just wanted to set it straight, Staff Sergeant. You may have noticed I'm not quick to flame on forums, as it is rather pointless. We all were n00bs once, and I am always willing to help point people in the right direction.

that was there for more of comic relief. :) it's not that funny in know. but flaming on the bbs is pointless. it just shows how immature you really are. and yeah, we all had to start somewhere once. and i still consider myself a noob. i really havn't been here that long. and i can be a little crazy sometimes. :)

Also, your mistake wasn't really that n00bish, anyway, so don't even worry.

i've seen many mistakes of this sort. but i didn't really put the points in when Human and Pimp deposite. that just went right over my head.

I, too, was quite appalled when I learned it would take a whole FOUR YEARS to get to the upper levels on NG, then was brutally checked when I found out that it not only would take more than 4 years, but that I would probably never live to see that day. Oh well...life goes on like you said.

it will take a while to get on the high charts here. but all you need to do is keep at it if you really want it. and sooner or later, the work would have paid off. ^_^ but it'll take me forever. but i'm not really worried about it.

At 1/28/06 12:00 PM, Ghost_Phantom wrote: EagleRock, this is not a social call. The mafia could use your help. This unfortunately doesn't include all barracks members. We need our own website and private forums. The project started and looked like this. But it won't be finished because that person left the mafia. I know you have a lot of experience with that work and I would like to ask of you this favor. If you accept it will not be forgotten by any of us. If you are too busy we do understand. Please respond ASAP.

Honestly, PHP isn't really one of my strongest points. My website experience falls most squarely on simple HTML. Also, I am strong in using phpBB, which I would actually be better off doing for the Mafia. If you want, i can create another forum from Forum City, USA for the Mafia, but you might have to find someone else to do the website. Unfortunately, this will have to wait until I can get time to design the forum, which would probably be tomorrow afternoon. I apolgize that I cannot help you further, but the forums would definately be something I can help you with as a token of respect between the groups.

I will address the Mafia about this.

At 1/28/06 12:04 PM, Grizzley wrote: that was there for more of comic relief. :) it's not that funny in know. but flaming on the bbs is pointless. it just shows how immature you really are. and yeah, we all had to start somewhere once. and i still consider myself a noob. i really havn't been here that long. and i can be a little crazy sometimes. :)

You know, the true n00bs are the ones that think they are not n00bs...being a not-n00b is not about how much XP you have or what you know, but how you act.

it will take a while to get on the high charts here. but all you need to do is keep at it if you really want it. and sooner or later, the work would have paid off. ^_^ but it'll take me forever. but i'm not really worried about it.

Same here. I know that if I do it every day for the 12 seconds it takes to deposit, I'll get some benefits in the future. However, my short-term goals have nothing to do with XP, but rather with B/P. August 12th (assuming I don't get more than 100 B/P a day) will be the day I champion my B/Ping efforts, so that's where my sights are. :-)

That being said, do you get a boost in XP if you pass a level or no? I would assume not, but I figured I'd ask.

No, you don't...once your base VP becomes 5, it then goes on a sliding scale...where level 30 would have a base VP of 10, and it's evenly distributed back to 5...which is why it takes multiple deposits to bring your base VP up even a hundredth of a point. If you stopped depositing, your base VP would slowly but surely start dropping back to 5, as the level 30'er would continue to move forward (kind of like how inactive people can level down as the level requirements pass them).
Ack...I know that's confusing, but the point is no, no vote boost, sir. :salute:

Oh snap, I just realized you said XP and not VP...oh well, at least I put the VP thing out there for others to see, lol.

At 1/28/06 12:31 PM, EagleRock wrote: I will address the Mafia about this.

Most if not all the members in the mafia aren't half as trained as you are in that section of the internet so basically anything would be appreciated. The website doesn’t have to be great. It just has to be normal... That I'm convinced you can do. I hope you address the mafia soon about it. I'm rustling up all information for you to make your work as simple as possible with the actual non forum section of the website. If you do choose to help with the actual site ( as I said we don't want the best of the best ) I am busting my nuts to get all the information for you.

At 1/28/06 12:31 PM, EagleRock wrote: You know, the true n00bs are the ones that think they are not n00bs...being a not-n00b is not about how much XP you have or what you know, but how you act.

that is true. stats don't mean a thing. it's the person with them i guess.

Same here. I know that if I do it every day for the 12 seconds it takes to deposit, I'll get some benefits in the future. However, my short-term goals have nothing to do with XP, but rather with B/P. August 12th (assuming I don't get more than 100 B/P a day) will be the day I champion my B/Ping efforts, so that's where my sights are. :-)

that's good. i deposit just because. it gives a little impact on the voting power so that's one reason i do it. and xp really isn't that important, i go more for the points much like you do. but once in a while, i actually try and deposite, because sometimes i get that urge to get a new icon and that pushes me to deposite as often as i can. but good luck with your goals, i know you'll reach them with ease. just look at how fast you've been promoted. way faster than i have been. :)

At 1/28/06 12:40 PM, Ghost_Phantom wrote: Most if not all the members in the mafia aren't half as trained as you are in that section of the internet so basically anything would be appreciated. The website doesn’t have to be great. It just has to be normal... That I'm convinced you can do. I hope you address the mafia soon about it. I'm rustling up all information for you to make your work as simple as possible with the actual non forum section of the website. If you do choose to help with the actual site ( as I said we don't want the best of the best ) I am busting my nuts to get all the information for you.

Well, shit. I didn't read that, sir, and I just posted to the Mafia. I am unfortuantely busy today and don't have time, but if I can take my time, I might be able to accomodate your website. I'd have to see where it is hosted, the code, etc. to see if I can work on it, so see if that information can be given to me, and what the layout would look like.

At 1/28/06 12:43 PM, EagleRock wrote: Well, shit. I didn't read that, sir, and I just posted to the Mafia. I am unfortuantely busy today and don't have time, but if I can take my time, I might be able to accomodate your website. I'd have to see where it is hosted, the code, etc. to see if I can work on it, so see if that information can be given to me, and what the layout would look like.

Switching between club responds is tiring me... I thank you for your help and since you have the actual website you have a good clue of what we would like. For more information contact madknt, the creator of it.

No one is concerned with mutant busterjr's voting method? Oh well, I just remember what happened to me when I did that. I don't really care, I just thought it would be better for him to use a better method. Not really a problem any way, its his business.

At 1/28/06 12:48 PM, Rslegend wrote: No one is concerned with mutant busterjr's voting method? Oh well, I just remember what happened to me when I did that. I don't really care, I just thought it would be better for him to use a better method. Not really a problem any way, its his business.

Well, I have a problem with it, but it's not really my business. However, he should know that continually doing that, should I catch an admin's eye, could lead to very unpleasant penalties...such as losing all your b/p's.

At 1/28/06 12:48 PM, Rslegend wrote:

No one is concerned with mutant busterjr's voting method? Oh well, I just remember what happened to me when I did that. I don't really care, I just thought it would be better for him to use a better method. Not really a problem any way, its his business.

As you know I rarely visit the NGPD so I only read about 1/3 of the pages there. But give me a second to catch up on whats been happening. ...

When I stepped in before it was to bring the many consequences to your attention. Maybe I came on a little too strongly because if I remember correctly you wanted to quit after that, but the point is I did it for your own good and from what i've seen lately its worked.

At 1/28/06 09:06 AM, Mutant_BusterJr wrote: At 1/28/06 08:46 AM, Rslegend wrote: Oh crap. Mutant, did you not even pay attention to what happened to me? Damn it.

does it look like i give a damn?

If he doesnt care, then why should anyone else. Let him have his points reset maybe then he'll finally get it.

At 1/28/06 12:47 PM, Ghost_Phantom wrote: Switching between club responds is tiring me... I thank you for your help and since you have the actual website you have a good clue of what we would like. For more information contact madknt, the creator of it.

That it is, sir. I'll have to leave now, but I can address the situation later.

At 1/28/06 12:48 PM, Rslegend wrote: No one is concerned with mutant busterjr's voting method? Oh well, I just remember what happened to me when I did that. I don't really care, I just thought it would be better for him to use a better method. Not really a problem any way, its his business.

I didn't even see the post in regards to his voting style. What is his voting style, anyway?

Note, soldiers, that I have to leave for a while, but I shall return in a few hours. Until then, protect that Portal!

Hooah!

Here you go eaglerock, I found it.

At 1/27/06 09:16 PM, Mutant_BusterJr wrote:

well the way i vote is very simple. i only give out 5's or 0's. if the thing is utter crap, 0. if it looks good or has any other good qualities, 5 it is. try making a controversy for that!

I don't really care, but I how much you are against this.

Oh and actually we have another member who sort of does this as well.

At 1/27/06 09:18 PM, Alucard_draculA wrote:

Same as me, the only differrence is that I vote 3 too

At 1/28/06 12:48 PM, Rslegend wrote: No one is concerned with mutant busterjr's voting method? Oh well, I just remember what happened to me when I did that. I don't really care, I just thought it would be better for him to use a better method. Not really a problem any way, its his business.

I don't consider his method good either. Voting 0 or 5 simply will ruin fairness in any aspect. Let's say that a submission would be blammed with a score of 1.58. If he thinks that it is worthy to save with a 2 and vote 5 just to give the best chance to save it, then the submission would probably sneak in which it should not. On the other hand, he may also blam some submissions that deserve to pass with a big fat 0. As Elite Guards, we should judge entries based on fairness and give them what they deserve instead of simply voting 0 or 5 just to increase the chance for them to be blammed or saved. Voting fairly is also the main purpose of NG, that's why we have more buttons (0 to 5) to click than 0 and 5.
On a side note, I occationally found out that the NGPD was threatened by a mod (Evark) again because he thought that NGPD looked similar with NG Army and the Blam Club. It will be terrible if our brand organization gets locked. I hope that the members there can spend some time reading our posts here so that they can post some quality posts.