hmm, i would jump on the offer straight away, but atm im depositing for me, my alt, The_Weaponmaster and ScaryDeadGirl...
but, if no one else offers, email me at marcus_jwm@hotmail.com, because i dont use AIM, i use MSN messenger.

Thanks, RC, for depositing for me. It's greatly appreciated.

I got you Rot ^_^

At 10/21/04 05:55 PM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Hello, i havent seen you around here in a long time. All is well thanks for asking, and how be you ?

Happy birthday DHT, celebrate good times come on :)

Yea i know, its been awhile but i am trying to make a return, but its a real difficult job right now. I am glad things are going good for you and everything keep it up, its hard out there. Me? Well i am just trying to stay alive and well in this crazy world, but i am still here........

Deck Head Tottie - Happy Birthday Man - It comes once a year so enjoy it to the max!

At 10/21/04 06:18 PM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote: ummm yeah.... good?
lol.

w000! i got 6,500 b/p points yesterday! and 1,900 posts, too!

Ummmmmmmmm good.....glad to hear that....lol
Congrades on your 6.5 pts & 1.9 posts - I just got the rank of Elite Guard Lieutenant General i was suppose to hit this months and months ago.....but better late than never onto the next rank!

At 10/21/04 06:31 PM, MPA wrote: All is definately well, I'm just try to climb through this massive rank gap that is General. Which despite my efforts, is taking quite some time.
Gfox and jon are really into baseball right now. Hell I'm not huge on baseball but I loved watching Boston's winning streak.

Thats good that all is well - i want to try and gain up there and see whats good, but alast i just wont be able to with my crazy schedule.......keep trying and see what comes out of it......
Yea Boston..........ehhh they won........no comment.............

At 10/21/04 06:56 PM, FBIpolux wrote: Yeeeh 3000th B/P!! I'm now Elite Guard Sergeant, and I need to get the long 1000 b/p way to get a rank up :S Anyway, I think that I can do it fast :D Finally! I got my 20% more Voting Power.

Congrades! Way to go, Bro............you will rise and rise on.......

At 10/21/04 07:57 PM, Shat_the_Kat wrote: Congrats to you. I, too, have just ranked up. I am now an Elite Guard Master Sergeant. Plus, I broke right past 7.00 VP. Yay!

Congrades to you Shat_The_Kat........keep on going man........

At 10/21/04 08:00 PM, Qwoxyl wrote:

And hello to X.

And a Hello to you Q.

At 10/21/04 09:36 PM, Recon_Rebel wrote: Not quite as rare as Halley's Comet or the winning loto ticket. Not quite as common as vanilla ice cream or foot fungus..... it's Da Notorious X.

I am impressed that you remembered my stage name lol.........but i am as common to the household as Mr. Clean. I am amazing and dare i say uncanny to all that are in my mist.........and i appear and disappear with a good look and a graceful charm on my face.......remember dat! lol

Good as can be expected X, and yourself? I see you're less than 100 experience points away from level 17. I'll say my congrats now since I doubt you'll be around to announce it. Nice work.

Thats good Recon.....glad to see a vet still striving higher.........feels as though i messed up alot leaving.......its been difficult on my end bro and at times i dont know if i will be able to keep above the water...........i should of had been up there in the ranks a long time ago..................*sigh* but i must try sparingly to gain more. Yes i see that i will achieve 17 that will be a HUGE thanks to you my good friend.........and to boot i got Elite Guard Lieutenant General in the process......saw that i was near and thought i'd snag it lol..........thanks Recon you have always been a soldier, the best when it came to bare arms.............a true friend.................

At 10/21/04 05:38 AM, RedCircle wrote: 6,000 Exp FIGMENTUM? Just noticed man, good job!!!

Didn't even see that. Nice work =)

At 10/21/04 06:53 AM, RedCircle wrote:
If you were Lacie, that would have been enough to make you go insane...OMFG...lol

I've eaten breakfast and I'm full. Please don't mention Spam suppliers.

At 10/21/04 08:41 AM, deck_head_tottie wrote: It's my NG birthday. Oh boy. Everyone party.

Am I late?

Damn ... missed out on SCD dancing with a lampshade on his head ...

At 10/21/04 05:17 PM, XkwiziTOnE wrote: Wassup Members just stopped in to say hello to everyone and all - hope all is well.........

Hola. About time you finished off those seven BPs you've need for rank for ... what, three weeks now?

At 10/21/04 06:18 PM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote:
w000! i got 6,500 b/p points yesterday!

Pretty impressive, considering that only 165 were submitted ;)

At 10/21/04 06:56 PM, FBIpolux wrote: Yeeeh 3000th B/P!! I'm now Elite Guard Sergeant, and I need to get the long 1000 b/p way to get a rank up :S Anyway, I think that I can do it fast :D Finally! I got my 20% more Voting Power.

Grats ... sort of. Welcome to hell ... errrr, I mean, welcome to the Sergeant ranks.

At 10/21/04 07:57 PM, Shat_the_Kat wrote:
Congrats to you. I, too, have just ranked up. I am now an Elite Guard Master Sergeant. Plus, I broke right past 7.00 VP. Yay!

Good job ... now stop slacking off ;)

At 10/21/04 09:10 PM, Denvish wrote: I'm hoping it goes down well, cos that's the one list I REALLY don't want to drop off of.

*cough* No worries there ;) Oh wait, that was in the e-mail you didn't get ^^

At 10/21/04 10:54 PM, FBIpolux wrote: Hey, anyone have seen the post I made on the general about the days needed to get level up?? I took D0GMA's system and shown it to the General people... but they didn't seem to understand it well.

Technically, it's not my system. I simply took that huge XP Rate Gain grid and turned it into something manageable. That most of the people in General didn't get it doesn't surprise me ...

Today I made 87 b/p, I'm proud of myself :D

Well done =)

At 10/21/04 10:24 AM, deck_head_tottie wrote:
And thanks to everyone else, especially Jon with the picture. But don't invite them here, I hate black people....

Personally, I don't give a fuck whether or not you were "joking." It's not in the least bit amusing and I'm disappointed no one else in here called you to task for it.

/me grabs some spray paint and starts tinkering with the walls while everyone at the party is passed out.

At 10/21/04 10:24 AM, deck_head_tottie wrote: I hate black people....

WTF

I just got back to my record place, which means that when i'll change rank again, it would be a rank i havent been there before, which means (lol) that im now in the rank i had on the 9.28, a day before i took off! (;D

At 10/22/04 08:16 AM, Oh_Teh_Noes wrote: I'm going away hiking for the weekend soon, and I wonder if one of you could deposit for me?

Im happey to do it if MARCUS is unable as he has alot on his plate already , email me your info tomscott1@gmail.com

At 10/21/04 06:56 PM, FBIpolux wrote: Yeeeh 3000th B/P!! I'm now Elite Guard Sergeant, and I need to get the long 1000 b/p way to get a rank up :S Anyway, I think that I can do it fast :D Finally! I got my 20% more Voting Power.

Grats = ) im sure you will rank up quckly, you seem to be going at an insane speed.

At 10/21/04 07:57 PM, Shat_the_Kat wrote: Congrats to you. I, too, have just ranked up. I am now an Elite Guard Master Sergeant. Plus, I broke right past 7.00 VP. Yay!

Congrats Shat Kat you spammer you . : p
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Also well done to Bonus Stage on his 13 k blames.
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Sorry for double post i didn't mean to post my last one *slaps forhead* and cannot post this one later as i am going out any second now...

your just a big show off if you think your so cool.im not trying to pick a fight with you but i think your showing off.and people like that tick me off!!!

At 10/21/04 10:54 PM, FBIpolux wrote: Also I calculated and I understood that I'll never get level 29 unless Tom reset all experience points of everyone... 85 years... 85 freaking years before I get level 29... ahaha!!

i think he should reset it all. it would make level 9 users happier. it'd be better to make the level 30 a certain amount of exp, and anyone can get it once they pass that mark.

better yet, add more levels :)

j00bie wants a blue sig :O

At 10/22/04 12:28 PM, _stem_ wrote:
i think he should reset it all. it would make level 9 users happier. it'd be better to make the level 30 a certain amount of exp, and anyone can get it once they pass that mark.

It was set up as a dynamic system to constantly give people the ability to gain a level ... unlike BPs. At the time, I'm sure 30k seemed insurmountable, but the creation of the new point system changed all that. It's unlikely that after all this time, levels will undergo such a dramatic change as switching over to a flat rate.

If any change is going to occur, it would most likely be in adding a few middling ranks to the BPs, which would push the requirements for the higher ranks up, and change the VP% scaling. Beyond that, there's not much that's feasible without a complete overhaul of a system that's worked fine up until now.

better yet, add more levels :)

Repost:

Levels are arbitrary markpoints that have absolutely no bearing on NG. Trying for a new level keeps people motivated by giving them short term goals to attempt to achieve. Gaining a level does nothing but give you a new BBS icon. Consider the following:

When you are born, your parents are 20.
When you are 5, your parents are 25, and you are 20% of your parents' age.
When you are 10, they are 30, you are 33% of their age.
When you are 20, you are 50% of their age.
When you are 40 you are 67% of their age.
When you are 60, you are 75% of their age.
When you are 80, you are 80% of their age.

Your percentage of their age continuously increases, yet at no time are you ever closer than 20 years younger. Your daily increases in base voting power are an identical situation. You constantly increase your percentage of the level 30(s) total, but, unless they miss a deposit, you will never close the actual gap in experience points.

(Level 30 XP - 400)/21 = level split

((Target level - 9) * level split) + 400 = level requirement

More levels increases the denominator of 21, but does exactly nothing else.

At 10/22/04 12:15 PM, vegeto122 wrote: your just a big show off if you think your so cool.im not trying to pick a fight with you but i think your showing off.and people like that tick me off!!!

1) WTF is that supposed to mean?!? STFU, and go away.
2) Stop attaching pictures. You'll quickly find yourself unable to access the forums due to a forum ban.
3) Try typing in intelligible English. I looked at your two other posts, and you type like a monkey with 9 broken fingers. If you actually put forth an effort to sound more intelligent (you know, above the IQ of a rock), then people might take you seriously.

At 10/22/04 12:35 PM, D0GMA wrote:
If any change is going to occur, it would most likely be in adding a few middling ranks to the BPs, which would push the requirements for the higher ranks up, and change the VP% scaling. Beyond that, there's not much that's feasible without a complete overhaul of a system that's worked fine up until now.

Not going to happen. Even if there were to be more ranks added the max Bonus precentage would be 60%. That came right from the admins.

Repost:
(D0GMAsaid real cool stuff)

(Level 30 XP - 400)/21 = level split

((Target level - 9) * level split) + 400 = level requirement

More levels increases the denominator of 21, but does exactly nothing else.

Ok I like you fomula...looks like the one I made ages ago.

If there were 50 levels. made today.(the underline represents it repeats those number over and over)
(17616-400)/21=419.902439
(23-9)*419.902439+400=5887.634

Using those number I would be past level 23. I would accually be level 35. All that would change would be my level, not my vp. All adding more levels would do is make it easier to level. It ould not really effect anything else cause instead of the 819exp now needed from level to level it would be 419.

At 10/22/04 01:33 PM, ramagi wrote:

At 10/22/04 12:35 PM, D0GMA wrote:
If any change is going to occur, it would most likely be in adding a few middling ranks to the BPs, which would push the requirements for the higher ranks up, and change the VP% scaling. Beyond that, there's not much that's feasible without a complete overhaul of a system that's worked fine up until now.

Not going to happen. Even if there were to be more ranks added the max Bonus precentage would be 60%. That came right from the admins.

They could add higher ranks for people that are already egsc without adding anything to the vp. Here's what it could look like:

Elite Guard Supreme Commander : 60% 30000b/p pts
next rank: still 60% 40 000 b/p pts
next rank: still 60% 50 000 b/p pts
etc until 100 000 b/p pts
It wouldn't add some voting power but at least we will have a new picture for each rank so it can motivate b/p voters already above 30 000 b/p pts.

Waiting for a bashing reply that will tell me that without a bonus for vp, it would be pointless... yep, I'm expecting a reply like that and I will happen!!

At 10/22/04 01:43 PM, EKRegulus wrote:

At 10/22/04 01:33 PM, ramagi wrote:

At 10/22/04 12:35 PM, D0GMA wrote:
If any change is going to occur, it would most likely be in adding a few middling ranks to the BPs, which would push the requirements for the higher ranks up, and change the VP% scaling. Beyond that, there's not much that's feasible without a complete overhaul of a system that's worked fine up until now.

Not going to happen. Even if there were to be more ranks added the max Bonus precentage would be 60%. That came right from the admins.

They could add higher ranks for people that are already egsc without adding anything to the vp. Here's what it could look like:

Elite Guard Supreme Commander : 60% 30000b/p pts
next rank: still 60% 40 000 b/p pts
next rank: still 60% 50 000 b/p pts
etc until 100 000 b/p pts
It wouldn't add some voting power but at least we will have a new picture for each rank so it can motivate b/p voters already above 30 000 b/p pts.

Waiting for a bashing reply that will tell me that without a bonus for vp, it would be pointless... yep, I'm expecting a reply like that and I will happen!!

I think that's a good idea, but it would be a good idea to give that user some sort of credit for reaching that amount of b/p.. that would take a lot of a person's time to get that amount and they should deserve more VP. But the idea of having a new pic for each rank after 30k b/p's would be nice.

At 10/22/04 01:43 PM, EKRegulus wrote: Waiting for a bashing reply that will tell me that without a bonus for vp, it would be pointless... yep, I'm expecting a reply like that and I will happen!!

I meant "it will happen", not I will happen...

Posted: 10/22/04 01:48 PM by Yoink_vines
I think that's a good idea, but it would be a good idea to give that user : some sort of credit for reaching that amount of b/p.. that would take a : lot of a person's time to get that amount and they should deserve : : : : : : more VP. But the idea of having a new pic for each rank after 30k b/p's : would be nice.

It's good to see that someone here likes my idea... everyone wants more vp but the admins refused our request once and they will probably refuse it again so asking a second time for more vp is pointless.

At 10/22/04 01:30 PM, Shat_the_Kat wrote: 2) Stop attaching pictures. You'll quickly find yourself unable to access the forums due to a forum ban.

Don't you mean BIZZZZARRRRO forum ban?

WTF? There's pictures flying off the walls here...
I hope this post will exorcise it...
OMG LOOK!

At 10/22/04 01:33 PM, ramagi wrote:

At 10/22/04 12:35 PM, D0GMA wrote:
If any change is going to occur, it would most likely be in adding a few middling ranks to the BPs, which would push the requirements for the higher ranks up, and change the VP% scaling. Beyond that, there's not much that's feasible without a complete overhaul of a system that's worked fine up until now.

Not going to happen. Even if there were to be more ranks added the max Bonus precentage would be 60%. That came right from the admins.

I presumed max was going to be 60%, that was why I was talking about inserting ranks and said "and change the VP scaling" ... meaning that on the way to SC and 60% things wouldn't be the same.

By inserting something like say a 5-star General and Field Marshal between General and SC you can bump up the requirement for SC without affecting the VP values.

Instead of (correct values quoted, not the FAQ numbers):

22 19,500-21,499 44% Elite Guard Brigadier General
23 21,500-23,499 46% Elite Guard Major General
24 23,500-25,499 48% Elite Guard Lieutenant General
25 25,500-29,999 55% Elite Guard General
26 30,000 + 60% Elite Guard Supreme Commander

you get:

22 19,500-21,499 44% Elite Guard Brigadier General
23 21,500-23,499 46% Elite Guard Major General
24 23,500-25,499 48% Elite Guard Lieutenant General
25 25,500-29,999 51% Elite Guard General
26 30,000-37,499 54% Elite Guard 5-Star General
27 37,500-49,999 57% Elite Guard Field Marshall
28 50,000 + 60% Elite Guard Supreme Commander

Three other ranks could readily be similarly stuffed in the lower ranks, further increasing the SC requirement, and by dropping the +% to 2 across the board it would still not force the VP bonus above 60.

The real problem with any idea like this is that it penalizes people like Crono and Joe, who are still here, but stopped BPing since they already had the final rank.

Repost:
(D0GMAsaid real cool stuff)

(Level 30 XP - 400)/21 = level split

((Target level - 9) * level split) + 400 = level requirement

More levels increases the denominator of 21, but does exactly nothing else.

Ok I like you fomula...looks like the one I made ages ago.

LOL wish I knew about that earlier; it would have saved me the hassle of trying to figure out the math behind the levels. I knew it had to be something fairly simple, but I kept getting sidetracked because of the variable increases.

If there were 50 levels. made today.(the underline represents it repeats those number over and over)
(17616-400)/21=419.902439
(23-9)*419.902439+400=5887.634

Using those number I would be past level 23. I would accually be level 35.

Heh ... finally you saved me from doing the math. What you worked out would have me at 22 ^^

At 10/22/04 01:43 PM, EKRegulus wrote:
They could add higher ranks for people that are already egsc without adding anything to the vp.

Interesting idea ... but if you're already Supreme how do you go up? IF any alterations were made, your idea would be the easiest to implement. The trouble is, it doesn't really do anything except add icons (just like adding more levels), so why bother?

At 10/22/04 01:59 PM, EKRegulus wrote: It's good to see that someone here likes my idea... everyone wants more vp but the admins refused our request once and they will probably refuse it again so asking a second time for more vp is pointless.

Trust me it is pointless. They were reluctant about the 60% two years ago, whn this system came out. I won't bash you.
It is currently pointless to really to go past 30K, yet others and I still contiue to get poitns while others don't.
If they were to make more ranks, which I highly doubt. I think they would rather raise the amount for EGSC. I think it would be pointless to put more ranks in with the current system, I thought all the ranks were relitivly easy to get the only big gap was the last one. Now if thay raised the amount from 30K to say 40K or 50K would have to change all the other ranks and how many points it takes to get them. They would keep the percentage the same for the ranks. Or they could add more ranks by doubling pointes needed for the last one and double numebr of ranks keeppign 60% as th top percentage and reducing the percebntage increase in half. I'll stop rambling at this point

At 10/22/04 03:44 PM, D0GMA wrote: Interesting idea ... but if you're already Supreme how do you go up? IF any alterations were made, your idea would be the easiest to implement. The trouble is, it doesn't really do anything except add icons (just like adding more levels), so why bother?

Instead of being generals, people that would get a higher rank than egsc would be "presidents" or "voting gods", etc. We could easily find somthing that means higher than the army.

We need to get as many ideas as we can so if they refuse one of them, we still have other suggestions for them. I know that mine isn't really interesting but it's better than nothing. The fact that it's easy to implement gives it a great chance to become real.

Oh Dogma.. the famous "why bother?" reply! That's something we don't need. That's the sentence for lazy people, not us.

Posted: 10/22/04 03:44 PM by ramagi
Trust me it is pointless. They were reluctant about the 60% two years ago, whn this system came out. I won't bash you.

It is currently pointless to really to go past 30K, yet others and I still contiue to get poitns while others don't.

What are they afraid of? People with too much voting power that could easily change the score of new entries? ummm maybe that's the reason

At 10/22/04 03:44 PM, D0GMA wrote:

:: By inserting something like say a 5-star General and Field Marshal between General and SC you can bump up the requirement for SC without affecting the VP values.

Instead of (correct values quoted, not the FAQ numbers):

22 19,500-21,499 44% Elite Guard Brigadier General
23 21,500-23,499 46% Elite Guard Major General
24 23,500-25,499 48% Elite Guard Lieutenant General
25 25,500-29,999 55% Elite Guard General
26 30,000 + 60% Elite Guard Supreme Commander

you get:

22 19,500-21,499 44% Elite Guard Brigadier General
23 21,500-23,499 46% Elite Guard Major General
24 23,500-25,499 48% Elite Guard Lieutenant General
25 25,500-29,999 51% Elite Guard General
26 30,000-37,499 54% Elite Guard 5-Star General
27 37,500-49,999 57% Elite Guard Field Marshall
28 50,000 + 60% Elite Guard Supreme Commander

Three other ranks could readily be similarly stuffed in the lower ranks, further increasing the SC requirement, and by dropping the +% to 2 across the board it would still not force the VP bonus above 60.

Stop thinking like me, Damn I wish shelteredlife never went away some days. You would have loved my topic back then. I had a lot of data like this there.

The real problem with any idea like this is that it penalizes people like Crono and Joe, who are still here, but stopped BPing since they already had the final rank.

That is true, it would hurt the ones that have stopped.

Heh ... finally you saved me from doing the math. What you worked out would have me at 22 ^^

I did that math a year ago when I tried to pitch the idea of more levels to Wade. WHich the response I got was, they would think about it. :/

At 10/22/04 03:44 PM, ramagi wrote: I'll stop rambling at this point

From now on, thou shalt be known as: ramagi the rambler 8)

I agree with what you & D0GMA are saying though. There's no need for a change in ranks. BUT the system does favour people who've been on NG for a long time, which in one way is fair, but in another way is not.

Shit, I forgot to say it in my last post. Thanks EK & D0GMA for the great reviews on Overrun, and thanks to anyone else who voted high on it. I'm considering starting a new Wi/Ht thread for suggestion/comments on the (future development of the) game - smart idea? or stupid idea? Please respond.

Oh yeah, and for those who don't visit D0GMA's 51+ thread, have a listen to this - you might find it slightly amusing
</ selfpromotion>

sorry

At 10/22/04 04:25 PM, Denvish wrote: Shit, I forgot to say it in my last post. Thanks EK & D0GMA for the great reviews on Overrun, and thanks to anyone else who voted high on it. I'm considering starting a new Wi/Ht thread for suggestion/comments on the (future development of the) game - smart idea? or stupid idea? Please respond.

Oh yeah, and for those who don't visit D0GMA's 51+ thread, have a listen to this - you might find it slightly amusing
</ selfpromotion>

sorry

I saw it, I was goign to do a review earlier, but got side tracked. I was going to do a couple sugestions there.

At 10/22/04 04:17 PM, Denvish wrote: I couldn't care less about what denvish just typed BUT

I noticed the change denvish! Thx for making it more difficult. Now, your game will easily make it to front page and when flashes make it there, the score usually gets a boost so you might taste the top50 for a while.

Instead of 200 000 pts and quitting the game before I lose only one live, I died at 14500 pts.... that's a huge difference. Although, I only tried once with the new level of difficulty so I'm probably to get a much higher score.

It's better and much more challenging than defend your castle or doomed :O
Great job.

The only reason why I type that here is because I can't review twice :D and I know that you browse this thread everyday.

At 10/22/04 04:25 PM, Denvish wrote: I love you all and /self-promotion

How dare you post at the same time as me. If I saw that post, I would reply to this one instead of the previous one.

At 10/22/04 04:12 PM, EKRegulus wrote:
Oh Dogma.. the famous "why bother?" reply! That's something we don't need. That's the sentence for lazy people, not us.

Above, I sketched out my concept of new BP ranks. "Why bother," is not laziness, it's logic and motivation.

If a list provides no useful information, there is no point in expending the effort required to create and maintain the list.

If adding more experience levels or BP ranks has no real effect, there is no point in creating the graphics and revamping the coding required to implement them.

If there's no point in implementing a concept, make a new idea. You need to play devil's advocate on yourself more often, I enjoy it when I have to work to find something wrong with a plan.

What are they afraid of? People with too much voting power that could easily change the score of new entries? ummm maybe that's the reason

The fear is most likely that it's a slippery slope. Once you establish the precedent that you are willing to make changes to the basis of how part of a system works, the flood gates are open. What about here? Or here? Why here, but not here? ad infinitum

At 10/22/04 04:15 PM, ramagi wrote:

Heh ... finally you saved me from doing the math. What you worked out would have me at 22 ^^

I did that math a year ago when I tried to pitch the idea of more levels to Wade. WHich the response I got was, they would think about it. :/

I was referring to the math you worked out that I quoted ... To make level 23, one would need 5887 XP, with 419 XP splits. Since I have 5635 X ...

At 10/22/04 04:25 PM, Denvish wrote: Thanks EK & D0GMA for the great reviews on Overrun, and thanks to anyone else who voted high on it.

No problem. If I'm going to take the time to write a review, I usually try to make it something worth reading =)

I'm considering starting a new Wi/Ht thread for suggestion/comments on the (future development of the) game - smart idea? or stupid idea? Please respond.

For now, I'd say hold off on it and see how it finishes the week. If, as is, it's a really popular game (lots of views, etc), then have it at.

Fixes that don't affect gameplay, like those I mentioned should just get uploaded to replace the existing flash. If you decide to make substantive game changes, like increasing the difficulty level, I'd rather it go into a separate entry. Mk1/Fuel was pretty challenging to me, but I can see why people were saying that Panic level was a bit too easy.

I went back and played it with my task manager up after I read some of your replies. I'm on a 2.8GHz laptop and had similar numbers. Base was 11%, 54% with the game running. If the only thing someone is doing is the game, you could add some more to it, but slower computers, like my PCs, won't do very well with it even as it is.