At 8/19/04 08:47 AM, Qwoxyl wrote:

At 8/19/04 06:27 AM, Eldarion wrote: The level system needs to be static as well.

But the current level system is good. The fact that you could lose your level encourages you to keep depositing and makes the levels more special than it would be if it was static. If everyone could get to the last level, then level 30 wouldn't be so special.

OK, I accept your argument and you do have a point. If making the level system static is too much, then at the very least, we need more levels. 50 levels would be excellent, we could put humantarget52 at level 50, and then the experience differential would be lower, so we'd be able to level up in say, 30-40 days as opposed to 70-80. This would make all the difference, and leveling up would still be special.

Anyway, with the exp system, since you can only get 10 exp per day, two people depositing everyday stay the same distance away from each other. There's no chance that level 30 would be completely unobtainable because sooner or later the person in the lead is going to miss a deposit.

Level 30 is almost impossible to get, especially for a level 9 like me. Let me do some calculations...

ht52's exp = 16,976
my exp = 680
difference = 16,296
days for me to reach level 30, if no-one else deposits = 1,630
years = about 4 and 1/2

Now, let's say ht52 did deposit every day for those 1,630 days.

ht52's exp after 1,630 days = 33,276
my experience after 1,630 days = 16,980

Now, in four and a half years, if I were to deposit every day, and no-one else has deposited, I would have enough exp points to be level 30. But because ht52 has been depositing all this time (possible, however unlikely) I would only have enough for level 15 or around that.

You could agrue that the b/s system has special levels and what not, but with b/s allows you to get more than 10 points a day.

Yeah, but it still takes a long time to rank up in the b/p levels because of the large gaps at the end (5,000 b/p points)

That system needs to be static.

I agree, I never said it shouldn't be.

If it was like the level system, and fixit was still going, no one would ever get close to the fourth final rank, let alone the last.

Good point.

OK, I've read your argument, and you've convinced me: maybe a static level system would be a bad idea, there would be too many level 30's etc. However, we still need more levels: it just takes too long to level up. It wasn't too bad a few years ago, but -bomb-, Pimp, Shrapnel and ht52 have been depositing all this time and it has gotten out of hand. It takes 5 days to level up from 8 to 9, but (currently) it then takes 74 days to level up from 9 to 10!

Theres still a small flaw in your plan Eldarion. Just say Wade upgraded to 50 levels and HT was put at 50, the same thing would happen, with him depositing everyday the points would still accumulate, and it would take us lower levelled users the same amount of time just to level up once.

The only thing i can see is if Wade upgraded, he didnt move HT and he would have to gain those levels, but then it would take forever for us still to reach level 30. Meh, i dont know if you guys will understand this, but im trying :)

At 8/19/04 10:00 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Theres still a small flaw in your plan Eldarion. Just say Wade upgraded to 50 levels and HT was put at 50, the same thing would happen, with him depositing everyday the points would still accumulate, and it would take us lower levelled users the same amount of time just to level up once.

No, we would level up quicker.

This is a very basic example:

16,976 / 30 = 565.87
16,976 / 50 = 339.52

BAsic, and not how the level system works, but it does illustrate how, if ht52 was at level 50, the gap between levels would be smaller.

The only thing i can see is if Wade upgraded, he didnt move HT and he would have to gain those levels, but then it would take forever for us still to reach level 30. Meh, i dont know if you guys will understand this, but im trying :)

This would basically be the same as the current system, and only ht52 and a few others would benefit, and the exp gap between levels would just keep increasing.

At 8/19/04 07:14 AM, --delteated-- wrote: Good luck to everybody else with exams...

Can you smell that? Smells like shit.

At 8/19/04 01:58 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote:
Yeah sure, it'll probably be worth a zero so that's what I'll vote.

If you plan on throwing a 0 at them out of spite, so be it.

I've missed out on points for the same reasons you mentioned. I do not "go with the flow" on Fun Stuff crap, Star Syndicate garbage, etc. If it sucks, it gets a 0, even if I know people are going to be sheep and get it to pass. I've said it before, I'd rather make my point on a submission than earn a point off one.

At 8/19/04 05:53 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Congrats to Dogma for the wonderfull new badge, well done old bean, well done indeed.

Thanks much.

As for j00bies movie, due to reading the posts in here before i actually watch it, i think it will be shitty, thanks for the warning though guys :)

~shrug~ He claimed he would be updating them over time. When submitted, the recent one at submission had no bgm, but now people are talking about there being music. I take back my above "bonus" as he's bulked the file size up from 250k to 1mb with music. Eventually it will be viewable, but not today.

At 8/19/04 06:04 AM, RedCircle wrote:
Supreme Commander D0GMA.

Supreme Dogma will do. *tsk tsk* Leaving without kissing my ring? For shame.

At 8/19/04 06:12 AM, jonthomson wrote:
Congrats to D0gma on now having no need to vote on anything under judgement ever again.

I at least need to finish out the week ... have to keep up my gold pace ;)

At 8/19/04 06:27 AM, Eldarion wrote: Despite the fact that about 20 people have mentioned it, I just realised: well done D0GMA on getting EGSC. Very well done indeed.

Thanks =)

The level system needs to be static as well. D0GMA would lose his level 14 eventually if he didn't deposit. We need more levels, and a new, static level system. Please.

Everyone is used to the static-scaling system in place now. There's been rumours of either an entirely new system (for both ranks and levels), or just more ranks and levels, being implemented at some unknown future date. Just wait for it.

At 8/19/04 07:02 AM, FlGMENT wrote:
Congratulations on becoming the 9th Supreme Commander D0GMA. My password is hotmanlove. What's yours? :P

D0GMAMeansBitch

At 8/18/04 10:28 PM, D0GMA wrote: I voted that we not even have an election. Like I said, I don't believe it's warranted at this point.

I completely agree with you, but I didn't think raising the issue would result in the election being cancelled. Maybe I should have spoken up after all.

I doubt my "vote-no-vote" will have any affect, but I cast it ... same as my giving j00bie's flash what it deserved :-P~~ spancker is back, sort of, and trying to get back into the swing of things. The obvious and most effective way to prove he's back is to run an election. I just think people need more time to either chill out, get more known, get more familiar with the answers they are misquoting, etc.

If I ever get Flash and submit something here I'd be looking for a 3.00 at the least. I couldn't bring myself to submit absolute trash and get an equally trashy Batting Average.

~nod~ I'm my biggest critic. Even once I get "good" at putting a flash together, I'll never qualify for a Time Trial. I'll spend weeks tweaking a scene to get it just where I want it.

At 8/19/04 01:11 AM, D0GMA wrote: To all of you who tossed passing scores at it, fuck off.

Damn D0GMA. You said exactly what I was thinking. I actually sat through that quiz atrocity and couldn't bring myself to watch that stupid Handbook, especially after reading the negative opinions here and the review on the very same page. Being a smartass is all well and good, but that quiz was just damn stupid.

Baaaaaaa! Vote Fifen! Baaaaa!

At 8/19/04 09:42 AM, Eldarion wrote:
Level 30 is almost impossible to get, especially for a level 9 like me. Let me do some calculations...

<snip out math>

Work it out however you like, the fact remains that it's a good system as it is representative of the fact that you are constantly increasing both your experience and your proporionate experience. I've used this example a number of times:

Your parents are 20 when you are born.
When you are 5, you are 20% of their age.
When you are 10 you are 33.33% of their age.
When you are 20, you are 50% of their age.
When you are 40, you are 66.67% of their age.
When you are 60, you are 75% of their age.

At no time are you ever any closer than 20 years younger than your parents, but your percentage constantly goes up. In the experience system, this is reflected by the fact that your base voting power is constantly increasing.

The fact that there are "levels" arbitrarily placed along the way causes people to think that more levels would actually mean something. They are simply there as a courtesy to let people have shorter range goals to attempt to achieve, as well as having predefined BBS icons.

At 8/19/04 07:22 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote:

But why in gods name arent you depositing ? I looked at your profile a few days ago and you have the same experience, i hope i didnt deposit for you for nothing.

I've deposited every day...

At 8/19/04 12:28 PM, D0GMA wrote: Just wait for it.

I know it's not going to happen overnight, and it would take James, Will, Wade and Tom a long time to get it all sorted out. I'll be waiting...

At no time are you ever any closer than 20 years younger than your parents, but your percentage constantly goes up. In the experience system, this is reflected by the fact that your base voting power is constantly increasing.

The fact that there are "levels" arbitrarily placed along the way causes people to think that more levels would actually mean something. They are simply there as a courtesy to let people have shorter range goals to attempt to achieve, as well as having predefined BBS icons.

Interesting. I never thought of it that way. When you think about it levels are just an icon and a number. It's Vote Power that matters. OMG! I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT! :)

Thanks once again D0GMA for your patient question-answering :D Still, though, it would be cool to see some new level icons, just for the sake of change.

At 8/19/04 12:28 PM, D0GMA wrote:

At 8/19/04 01:58 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote:
Yeah sure, it'll probably be worth a zero so that's what I'll vote.

If you plan on throwing a 0 at them out of spite, so be it.

Maybe you should reread my post again. The word "probably" is referring to your impending flash. If it's worth a passing score then that's what I'll give it. As for your little "spite" cheap shot, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't question the integrity of my voting. I've never questioned yours, no matter how many points you care to make.

oh damn, i just found out about this topic, looks like i got a place to post more often, as soon as i could follow on whats goin on.

MEMBERS OF WI/HT PLEASE CHECK YOUR MAIL

At 8/19/04 07:09 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: MEMBERS OF WI/HT PLEASE CHECK YOUR MAIL

Damn im thinking the elections been cancelled, *tear*

Im hoping i'll have something to celebrate tommorow with you guys, but i'll keep you informed :)

Yes, yes I cancelled the elcetions:'-( ....or did I?
Why does everyone think I was cancelling? (maybe its becasue I was???)

Yay! Today I reach my 500th save now I only 500 more until I get 1000! Also in other news tommorow I go to level 8 I'm finally gonna get out of the bracelet levels.

Lets see... anything else... Oh! Wait... no... no other news.

At 8/19/04 07:16 PM, BonusStage wrote:

At 8/19/04 07:13 PM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote:

At 8/19/04 07:09 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: MEMBERS OF WI/HT PLEASE CHECK YOUR MAIL

Damn im thinking the elections been cancelled, *tear*

uh i hope not, i love congratulating people heh, COME ON EVERYONE GATHER ROUND, the answer may be soon :o

That's privileged information BonusStage. You're gonna have to bite the bullet and wait until spancker is ready to announce the winner. The funny thing is before I read spancker's latest e-mail I seriously thought he was gonna call off the election like some of you believed. I'm glad he didn't.

Not only do I find out the results of the election, I ranked up aswell. Such an eventful day.

At 8/19/04 08:36 PM, MPA wrote: Not only do I find out the results of the election, I ranked up aswell. Such an eventful day.

Damn, you are on your way to EGSC, won't be to much longer at the rate you are going!

Good job my good man!

Mike

At 8/19/04 08:26 PM, BonusStage wrote: um ok, good job on that, you certainly are determined :\, but why do you not congratulate others on their accomplisments as well :(

Hmm... I guess I should start doing that... sorry. I guess I'm so determined upon my own accomplishments I forgot to congratulate others.

Hey Qwoxyl if you read this can you mail me please its about something you posted the other day, and I think it is rather important,
Cheers.

At 8/19/04 08:36 PM, MPA wrote: Not only do I find out the results of the election, I ranked up aswell. Such an eventful day.

Good job, its gonna be a while until I get to those ranks. I wish you good fortune in the road ahead of you.

At 8/15/04 04:57 PM, Recon_Rebel wrote:

At 8/15/04 10:36 AM, Bila wrote: Gotta keep moving, Dogma's been averaging 100+ per day all week and gaining on me fast.

Yeah right Bila, and I'll just pull up a chair and relax while you gain on me. I was doing a stat check of the top 10 last night and noticed D0GMA's amazing gains (actually it jumped right out and slapped me in the face). Neither you, D0GMA or myself have any intentions of stopping so it should be pretty interesting to see what happens when someone gets within striking distance. I can't believe how fast this week went by (TGIF).

Well GONGRATUALTIONS on passing Thejoe
You are now within striking distance of Crono- !!! and the game is afoot

Sorry, but you are not my biggest worry right now. I've been online less lately and you've gained some ground on me. However, I'm loosing loads of ground to Dogma this week!

At 8/19/04 07:16 PM, BonusStage wrote:

At 8/19/04 07:13 PM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote:

At 8/19/04 07:09 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: MEMBERS OF WI/HT PLEASE CHECK YOUR MAIL

members? how do we become "members" ?
wasn't nothing in my mail

At 8/19/04 08:57 PM, Bila wrote:

At 8/19/04 07:09 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: MEMBERS OF WI/HT PLEASE CHECK YOUR MAIL

members? how do we become "members" ?

Remove all your clothes, shove a feather duster up your ass and run through your neighborhood mall screaming "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" If you're able to make it back home without being arrested you've got a chance of being voted in next election.

wasn't nothing in my mail

You need friends for that to work :-)

At 8/19/04 09:15 PM, Recon_Rebel wrote: Remove all your clothes

Check

Shove a feather duster up your ass

Check

Run through your neighborhood mall screaming "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

Check

Make it back home without being arrested

Check

You need friends for that to work :-)

Che... ...ummm... damn...

But the feather duster was worth it anyway.

At 8/19/04 08:57 PM, Bila wrote: members? how do we become "members" ?
wasn't nothing in my mail

Heh, another way of putting what Recon wrote is we (Wi/Ht members) hold elections every 2-6 months to induct a new member. To be a nominee in the elections you basically need to be a regular poster around here, help people out with their questions, and not be an annoying jackass. Here is a list of the current members (second post from the bottom) although the 20th member has been chosen today (which has yet to be revealed) in the election that was held all week.

Wow so many new pages since my last post, I need to come here more often! Tomorrow after school (after I finish my science homework) I get to spend a lot of time here YAY!! For now I just want to get some points, goodnight and have a great day tomorrow!
P.S. Congrats to anyone who achieved something(even getting to level 2) I'll probably post here if something cool comes up, well see ya!

Just got my 2500th blam/save! Elite Guard Corporal! Plus I'm only 174 away from level 11! Cool stuff...

At 8/19/04 11:15 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: Just got my 2500th blam/save! Elite Guard Corporal! Plus I'm only 174 away from level 11! Cool stuff...

Good job on your rank up... watch out I'm catching up to you I'm about 300 b/p's away from that rank.

At 8/19/04 10:58 PM, BonusStage wrote: because it's not like that stops me from giving help to whoever i can give it to ^_^,

I help more people than any of the Wi/Ht members! haha!

A winner is me!

At 8/19/04 08:36 PM, MPA wrote: Not only do I find out the results of the election, I ranked up aswell. Such an eventful day.

Getting really close to passing me. Who cares anymore. I have alot more fun things to do now than last year during school.

At 8/19/04 10:58 PM, BonusStage wrote: though of course i'll probably never be a member :\, it doesn't matter to me all that much, because it's not like that stops me from giving help to whoever i can give it to ^_^, and of course NOT being an asshole in any of Wi/Ht's big threads, and of course always congratulating people :)

Don't sell yourself short BonusStage. I can't go into detail about the recent election (spancker would be furious with me) but I can say this much; There's been people that have been nominated (both past and present) that I never even knew existed on Newgrounds! Haha! I'm not sure how I overlooked these individuals (maybe short, sporadic posts) but can you imagine if they were elected and I bumped into them days later? I'd be like "Congratulations bud. Who the hell are you?"