Part 1
At 3/14/10 12:29 AM, Sir-Nuts wrote:At 3/7/10 01:52 PM, Auz wrote: Nah. It's a bit of a problem here as well. I believe youth prison is recorded, but for less serious crimes it's all forgiven and forgotten after you've done your work. The work is never that ... intimidating towards youth criminals since it's usually 8 hours a day for only one week. They're really soft on them. Therefore they usually go back to committing crimes soon and in the worse case they end up in the crime circuit, never to get out again.
It's getting worse in here, because the middle-class teenagers are getting into that criminal circuit as well. There was a thug in my class who brought knives, sprays and such to school. He was kicked, eventually, but which school will take him after that?
Yeah. With that he's pretty much forced to become a criminal.
I always thought people would get mistreated in Brazilian prisons, but sounds like they're not so bad if you are a prisoner there.They are probably among the worst prisons in the world, actually. They're crowded, rusty, sometimes lacking space/cops, no beds... It's like a slave-house.
That's what I was expecting at first. If they're really crowded, rusty and lacking of cops, aren't there any major break-outs and riots occasionally?
And I would guess Latin. I thought juridical terms are usually in Latin and you guys are Latin America aren't you?Hahaha, sorry, it's indeed in Latin. I thought it was created in Greece at first, but I was mistaken. :P
And yeah, we are Latin Americans, but there are so many Greek and Latin therms in Portuguese that it gets hard to figure out what's the origin of a word. And that turns out really complicated when adding prefixes and suffixes and figuring out words you don't know.
Strange. If I remember my history books correctly, Portugal and Greece never had much to do with each other. So how come there are so many Greek therms in the Portuguese language then?
It's a vast and complex language, which probably less than 300 million people speak in the world. I think we should have been colonized by either Spanish, Italian or German colonies. BUT WHY PORTUGUESE? >:(
I don't know. I only know they speak Portuguese in Brazil and Portugal, but there must be a few more African and South-American Portuguese countries right? So I think it might be a little more than 300 million (isn't Brazil already more than 300 million?).
But yeah I think I would've preferred Spanish or something as well if I lived in Brazil. I don't know much about the complexity, but it's like... the second language in the world after English.
But hey, you still beat the Dutch language, which is spoken by less than 50 million I think. Up here we're getting taught at least four different languages in middle-school, because otherwise we can't even order a sandwich when we're on a holiday =/
I'm not really pro-death penalty to be honest, but for such people a lifelong sentence would indeed be justified if you ask me.Heh, now I remember my mom saying that she agrees on a torture sentence for some crimes. :P It's really revolting for her.
Heh torture. I think that's something more used in middle-eastern countries :p I remember watching a sickening video some time ago where some farmer there was shot in the limbs a couple times, forced to eat sand, whipped, driven over by a car and had his balls electrocuted.
I can't approve of such things either, no matter how bad your crime might have been.
Oh that sounds a lot like the Dutch system then, and probably many other European systems. We also have many parties, and after the elections the biggest party may join together with a few other parties to form the 'government'. This government usually has the majority so that they can make laws and decisions and the opposition (which are the remaining parties) can't thwart all their plans.Hahaha, it's exactly the same thing. I think only the USA has a two-party system, then.
But does your governors get caught in a video tape receiving real money, then declaring it was meant to be for the poor people?
Hehe no :p If such a thing would happen, you would probably get a "motion of distrust" as we call it here. Means the minister has to explain himself and if he can't then he has to give up his job and leave politics forever. He'd probably get thrown in jail as well. I can assure you that if it gets caught on tape, he'd be arrested the same day the tape comes out.
One party left the government so now they got a minority. New elections will be held here soon, but it seems like right wing extremists are gaining in popularity =/ Even so much that they might win the elections (you might have heard of Geert Wilders?) which is very worrying. But that's another matter.No, I haven't heard of him before, but as far as I've read, he's a pretty controversial figure.
Yeah you might know him from the movie Fitna? He's pretty much blaming all our countries problems on the muslims. He wants to stop the integration of muslims, stop the building of muslim churches and throw muslim criminals out of our country. For the rest he just says whatever's the popular opinion to win more votes for him.
It works pretty well on a country that is seemingly going downhill, as we have seen in Germany in 1939. The masses are buying it, but the more clever people know that those 'solutions' aren't going to help us =/
But hey, ten years ago our govern was basically a right wing party. It's stabilized the economy, creating our current currency (real [reh- all]), but many companies were sold, employment rates dropped... We're getting better only now, with Lula "the MAN", according to Obama. :P
Yeah I think Wilders is having similar ideas. He wants to drop taxes, stop a few major (controversial) projects and fire a LOT of people who are working for the government (like the higher up-people from the police). I believe it's all meant to fight the economic crisis, but I doubt it will work.
Anyway, is the system in your country anything like that?Sure, although govern and opposition are more "balanced", so some things are approved while others are denied. It really matters whether there are more govern or opposition members at the voting moment. Yes, they come whenever they want to.
Whahahahaha, so sometimes they're not even there? :p Kinda makes me wonder why they became politicians in the first place. Sounds like they're only in it for the money and the power.
Optional? But is it mandatory to vote in your country then after a certain age? Because in our country about 20% of the people who can vote usually don't even show up and people can vote 'blanco' as well if they want to.Yeah, after you're 18 and before 70 voting is obligatory. If you don't vote, you have to explain why you didn't vote or pay a tax for not voting (I'm not sure how much is it).
At least you won't get thrown in jail, like they do in some countries.
But yeah, sometimes I think it shouldn't be obligatory. I mean, sometimes people who aren't interested vote for anyone they think that "looks good". So why not leaving it for those who are interested? =/
Yes indeed. You'll get a lot of votes from people who don't know jackshit about who they're voting for and what's going on in the country. That can't be right.