Congrats to:
Cereal - 3,333 blams.
PenguinLink - Level 11.

As for me, 30,000 blams.

At 1/27/07 10:11 AM, schneelocke wrote:
I don't know... I've been here for 2,5 years, and I'm only level 15. Given that the first 9 levels don't really count, anyway, that means I've reached the 6th "real" level out of 21 - so it's not just about not being able to get to high levels "real fast". In order to reach 25 (the 16th out of 21 - which, unlike the 6th out of 21, actually is a high level), I'd need 15 years, and not being happy with that is not about wanting to get there "real fast". In fact, there is quite some room between 15 years and "real fast", I'd say...

I think I understand what you are talking about. But you can't forget that The real early starters (the ones that started in 1999-2001) had ways of getting more EXP points. But afterwards since that was abused it was removed and the point scale was fixed to 10 points a day. So of course the gaps would grow real big since the amount of EXP that is needed to get to each level increases each day. But with this system it is like you said if you don't sign up early you are screwed.

I agree that adding new levels is band-aid at best, yes - but it's better than nothing for now, and purdy new icons are always nice, too. ;)

For now it would be a band-aid as you say. As for the new Icons some of the ones shown are nice, but if people want new Icons why not just have the users vote on which Icon should be switch with the old ones instead of adding new levels with them.

But seriously, it's simply not true that putting all levels on a fixed, never-changing scale is the only way to fix the current system. I've already proposed another solution in my last post - use an exponential scale instead of a linear one, so that the levels are spaced tighter near level 9 at any given points than they are near level 30 (or, hopefully soon, 60). That would neatly solve the current problems while still giving you an incentive to deposit every day that goes beyond reaching fixed levels.

(On a side note, even if the level requirements were frozen, I'm not sure how it'd take you the same amount of days to reach a certain level when you miss deposits as someone who doesn't - that person would have more XP than you and would thus take less time to reach certain levels, too. But I do see why a system like that would be less desirable than a sliding-scale system.)

If the level requirements were frozen for the levels 10-29 it would take 3-4 months without missing a deposit each since the gaps are 1200+ points each until you reach level. If you missed a certain amount of deposits then then it would take you that many number of days more to get to that level. But Like I said this would be right at all since it would defeat the purpose of depositing everyday since no matter what it would take that many number of days of depositing to get to that level.

As for your Idea of making the gaps smaller for the lower levels and making them larger as you get higher I have to say that Idea is a double edged sword. sure it would be good for the people who are at the lower levels get higher, but evenually when those users get to higher levels then the bitching and whinning will start up again since it would be even harder to get to certain levels after a certain point. But I don't think there would be as much complaining since by then most users would have gotten past or up to the level that they wanted to by then, but there would still be complaining and whinning.

If the #1 user stops, he will soon be overtaken by somebody else. Remember ht52? He stopped, but since pimp was right behind him, everything continued like before. Nowadays, of course, it'd take people some time to overtake pimp even if he stopped, but it wouldn't take *that* long, and I don't think the chance that he'll stop depositing anytime soon is that large, either.

Well that is true but still my point on that the gaps wouldn't grow until someone passed pimp and for a lot of people (Especially the high up ones as well as the low) they would get a break from the gaps. But as you said he rarely misses deposit days if at all any.

Finally, yes, it's true that the calculator's estimates will be too big if the level 30 user doesn't deposit every day... but they will also be too small if *I* don't deposit every day, and I'd say that for the average user, that's actually more likely. I myself certainly have missed more deposits since I joined NG than pimp joined.

I understand where you are coming from with this. The calculator can only go on what if you and pimp deposits at the same time. So there is room for error with this thing since there is no way of knowning if you or pimp will deposit at the same time. Even I have missed deposit days that pimp hasn't missed but not that many.

At 1/28/07 12:26 AM, Mr-Molotov wrote: Congrats to:
As for me, 30,000 blams.

Good job. I hope you can also reach the voting power of 10, since you have all the Blams + Saves you can use to increase it. Hopefully the EXP power needed won't take too long.....

27000 total b/p points --- just 3000 away from reaching EGSC now. :D

Coop congratulates over a bowl of Weetabix:
Bahamut: 70,000 Total Points
XwaynecoltX: 17,000 reviews (flash)
Sterockicy: EG Sergeant 1st Class; 5,000 B/P; 2,222 Blams
MetalDart: Level 10
Haggard: EG Private
NickScott: EG Private
superstatguy: 1,500 Blams; 3,000 B/P
IndianapolisColts: 20,000 Saves
Cereal: 3,333 Blams
PenguinLink: Level 11
Mr-Molotov: 30,000 Blams
Dream-of-Duke: 27,000 B/P (You're going to pass me in VP for a few weeks... When I get my third star, I should pass you again!)

Thanks to:
Casualty
head2toewinner
Mr-Molotov

At 1/27/07 08:57 AM, Casualty wrote: Coop83: 111 Review Responses

I haven't quite got that far yet... give me a week or two to get up there with those responses

At 1/26/07 05:15 AM, Coop83 wrote: Basically, we were in the pub, coming up with stupid names for stupid bands. I offered up 'Limp Dickshit' for Limp Bizkit, while the other options we're 'Fred Durst's ego' and 'Soggy Digestive' (All you yanks - digestive is a biscuit, which you would call a cookie)

Hahahah dude I gotta do that some time with some mates!

Trust me, it's better than a game of Nick Farr Jones

At 1/27/07 10:11 AM, schneelocke wrote:

At 1/27/07 06:24 AM, Coop83 wrote: *dances* I'm finally on the doublelist with you!

Whee! ^^

It's been too long since we last danced, hasn't it?

At 1/27/07 07:18 PM, superstatguy wrote: I did a lot in the last 48 hours:
1. Reached 1,500 Blams;
2. Reached 3,000 Blams + Saves;
3. Broke past the 1337 ranking for total Blams + Saves;
4. Broke into the top 10,000 for Experience Points.
Pretty good for all to occur in just 2 days time!

Not to piss on your bonfire, but I did put down some achievements of my own within one day (10,000 experience; 8,000 Posts; 8 posts per day; top 400 experience and 300 reviews) I'll give you credit for two of those, since they're worth mentioning

At 1/27/07 09:15 PM, Cereal wrote: Well, now even if I want to submit decent movies they'll be zeroed. I submitted something ok not to long ago it passed at 2.29 by the time it left the portal it was 1.70. This is ok if I want to get turd but, now it seems like thats all I'll ever get. D:

Submit decent flashes with an alt account, then when that gets recognised for being able to make great ones, start putting Cereal as a co-author

At 1/27/07 09:53 PM, Mr-Molotov wrote:

At 1/27/07 06:24 AM, Coop83 wrote: I can confirm that you are not the NG user I am stalking.

Dare I ask who this unfortunate soul is, that you are stalking?

You can ask, but I'm not saying. I don't want her to find out :P

At 1/28/07 02:33 AM, superstatguy wrote: Good job. I hope you can also reach the voting power of 10, since you have all the Blams + Saves you can use to increase it. Hopefully the EXP power needed won't take too long.....

Don't say that! It's one of the only stats I still own him with

Congrats to:
Metal-Dart: LVL 10
Haggard: EG Private
NickScott: EG Private
superstatguy: 3,000 B/P/Top 1,337 B/P/Top 10,000 Experience
Iscrulz: 20,000 Saves
Sterockicy: 2,222 Blams
Cereal: 3,333 Blams
PenguinLink: LVL 11
Mr-Molotov: 30,000 Blams
Dream-of-Duke: 27,000 B/P

Short list today, because I already did one yesterday...

At 1/27/07 08:42 PM, P-S-X wrote: on my way to the 2,000 post's but what's the difference?

Shut the fuck up you idiot! Who the PISS cares you have 1,732 posts? That's not an achievement! Come back when you have 2,000 posts >:(

At 1/28/07 04:16 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 1/27/07 08:57 AM, Casualty wrote: Coop83: 111 Review Responses

I haven't quite got that far yet... give me a week or two to get up there with those responses

I probably read wrong >_> <_<

At 1/26/07 05:15 AM, Coop83 wrote: Basically, we were in the pub, coming up with stupid names for stupid bands. I offered up 'Limp Dickshit' for Limp Bizkit, while the other options we're 'Fred Durst's ego' and 'Soggy Digestive' (All you yanks - digestive is a biscuit, which you would call a cookie)

Hahahah dude I gotta do that some time with some mates!

Trust me, it's better than a game of Nick Farr Jones

In that case...

MegaGold's Congratulations list

Sterockicy Elite Guard Sergeant First Class
Stuff4u2kno Top 1,800 experience
AtomicTerrorist 2,400 Posts
NickScott 2,400 Experience Ironic
Metal-Dart Level 10
Haggard Elite Guard Private
NickScott Elite Guard Private Badge
superstatguy 1,500 Saves, 3,000 Blams
IndianapolisColts 20,000 Saves
Cereal 3,333 Blams
PenguinLink Level 11
Mr-Molotov30,000 Blams OMG

Thank you for your deposit, backflipair! You now have 2,000 experience points.

That felt good. Aaah...

Congrats to:

Coop83 - 100 responses. Maybe about 10 of them were from me. :D
XwaynecoltX - 17000 flash reviews
Sterockicy - Elite Guard Sergeant First Class, 2222 blams
Stuff4u2kno - Top 1800 EXP
Metal-Dart - Level 10
Haggard - Elite Guard Private
NickScott - Elite Guard Private, 888 saves
superstatguy - Elite Guard Sergeant
IndianapolisColts - 20000 saves
Cereal - 3333 posts
PenguinLink - Level 11
Mr-Molotov - 30000 blams
Dream-of-Duke - 27000 B/P
backflipair - 2000 EXP

Thanks to:

XwaynecoltX
MegaGold
Casualty
PenguinLink
head2toewinner
Mr-Molotov
Coop83

At 1/27/07 08:57 AM, Casualty wrote: Yes, I am scared too =( Fortunately thanks to logical logic emos kill themselves so "it" shouldn't be around too long anymore... I hope.

I hope bands like My Chemical Romance, Panic! at the Disco and Fall Out Boy die, so then all the emos might kill themselves. Oh yeah, we'd need MySpace gone in order to get all the emos to commit suicide. :P

At 1/27/07 10:13 AM, P-S-X wrote: how's my profile?

Boring.

I'm level 10 now! I'm over the hump! Finaly!

I'M SO HAPPY! =)

At 1/28/07 01:12 AM, LittleWashu wrote: I think I understand what you are talking about. But you can't forget that The real early starters (the ones that started in 1999-2001) had ways of getting more EXP points. But afterwards since that was abused it was removed and the point scale was fixed to 10 points a day. So of course the gaps would grow real big since the amount of EXP that is needed to get to each level increases each day. But with this system it is like you said if you don't sign up early you are screwed.

Exactly.

For now it would be a band-aid as you say. As for the new Icons some of the ones shown are nice, but if people want new Icons why not just have the users vote on which Icon should be switch with the old ones instead of adding new levels with them.

Well, you'll have to talk to Tom about that. :) As for myself, I trust that the new levels will be nice and that the icons will look cool - and I'm looking forward to seeing some new weapons, some slicker designs, and some new auras. :)

As for your Idea of making the gaps smaller for the lower levels and making them larger as you get higher I have to say that Idea is a double edged sword. sure it would be good for the people who are at the lower levels get higher, but evenually when those users get to higher levels then the bitching and whinning will start up again since it would be even harder to get to certain levels after a certain point. But I don't think there would be as much complaining since by then most users would have gotten past or up to the level that they wanted to by then, but there would still be complaining and whinning.

Maybe, but you can't please everyone - and specifically, trying to please both those who think that level requirements should stay fixed (so higher levels are not, ultimately, more difficult to get to than lower ones) and those who think that high levels should be harder to get to is obviously impossible.

But I agree it probably wouldn't be much of a problem. Outside of the fact that *some* people are always going to complain, it's not as if there's that many users that are even so much as close to reaching higher levels, anyway; I'm #629 out of ~1.1 million myself, and I'm *still* only level 15 (or, rather, 6 out of the 21 that actually matter). The actual number of people who have the patience to deposit (most) every day for several years is probably not that large.

But on the other hand, I think the current system with its huge gaps starting after level 9 probably does scare away newer users who hit level 9, and I suppose that that's what Tom wants to fix by introducing new levels, too. I really wish he'd have the courage to actually use the opportunity to move away from the linearly-scaling level requirements, too, though - now would be the perfect opportunity.

But then, maybe he will and we just don't know yet.

I understand where you are coming from with this. The calculator can only go on what if you and pimp deposits at the same time. So there is room for error with this thing since there is no way of knowning if you or pimp will deposit at the same time. Even I have missed deposit days that pimp hasn't missed but not that many.

True, but I don't think it ultimately matters much. If I miss a deposit today, and pimp misses a deposit a month later, it's exactly the same in the long run as pimp missing a deposit today and me missing one a month later. In the long run, the only thing that matters is the amount of deposits we both miss.

At 1/28/07 04:16 AM, Coop83 wrote: It's been too long since we last danced, hasn't it?

*s* Yeah. Feel like doing some DDR? ^^

I have now acquired the rank of Police Lieutenant.

Hey, look at that! This is my 501st post!

And now straight to 750!

900 days on NG!

Level 15

Fear me

500 BP points

300 reviews.

At 1/28/07 01:14 PM, NickScott wrote: You couldn't of combined those two posts, Kidiri?

I noticed my 500th after my lieutenant-ship... If I had known later that I was a lieutenant I would've done it though...

At 1/28/07 05:30 PM, Odyssic wrote: Elite Guard Private First Class

I'm going to be a stat whore now and post it in 2 more topics.

nice job!

i remember back when i was an elite guard first class... wow its been a while

For the love of God, no more pong games!!

Black holes were created when God divided by zero.

Congrats to:
superstatguy - 1500 Blams, 3000 B/P, Passed 1337 ranking in B/P, Top 10000 in EXP
IndianapolisColts - 20000 Saves
NickScott - 888 Saves
Sterockicy - 2222 Blams
Cereal - 3333 Blams
PenguinLink - Level 11
Mr-Molotov - 30000 Blams
Dream-of-Duke - 27000 B/P
backflipair - 2000 EXP
Dictatorlordx - Level 10
Kidiri - Police Lieutenant, 500 Posts
AtomicTerrorist - 900th Day on NG
AndersonCouncil - Level 15
The-Prep-Hunter - 500 B/P
MetalDart - 300 Reviews
Odyssic - Elite Guard Private First Class

Lol, The font is too big on your computer. Is there a way to udjust it so all that text is on one line?

If you need to do that ever you can either go in to View>Text Size>Pick a Size

Sorry its not erect enough to crack take yer shirt off.

Thanks for warning me I am just going to leave now.

on my way to the 2,000 post's but what's the difference?

Your right there is no difference so why don't you just stop posting until you get there at least.

I'm going to be a stat whore now and post it in 2 more topics.

Note that I am congratulating you here Odyssic so when I forget to congratulate you in the NGDD topic don't get pissed. At least I did recognize that you got it right.

i remember back when i was an elite guard first class... wow its been a while

Yeah why don't you just go ahead and rub it in for the people that aren't even there yet.

At 1/28/07 08:59 PM, ReconRebel wrote: For the love of God, no more pong games!!

Black holes were created when God divided by zero.

Yeah seriously NO more.

SAVES: Assisted in the protection of 7,250 quality entries.

conGrats:
XwaynecoltX 17,000 flash reviews
Sterockicy: EG Sgt. first class, 2,222 blams
Metal-Dart: Level 10
Haggard: E.g. Private
NickScott: eg private
superstatguy:Elite Guard Sergeant
Cereal 3,333 blams
PenguinLink: Level 11
Mr-Molotov 30,000 blams
Dream-of-Duke 27k b/ps
backflipair 2,000 exp
Dictatorlordx: level 10
Kidiri: Police Lieutenant
AndersonCouncil: level 15
The-Prep-Hunter: Police Lieutenant
MetalDart 300 reviews on flash
Odyssic: EGPFC

Thansks you
Sterockicy
Mr-Molotov
Coop83
Casualty
MegaGold
Bahamut
head2toewinner

At 1/27/07 08:39 PM, Sterockicy wrote: OOOOOOOWW HELLO! Style points! Originality points! Colourful points!

stolen actually.

Congratulations on 20000 saves! Some day I hope to make that. I will contact you in 3 years when I make it, k?

sure I will answer.

At 1/28/07 08:59 PM, ReconRebel wrote: For the love of God, no more pong games!!

Well its better than snake games.

Hellz yeah.

4K posts a few days ago and level 11 about 45 seconds ago.

At 1/28/07 11:56 PM, IndianapolisColts wrote: conGrats:
Sterockicy: EG Sgt. first class, 2,222 blams

I love to see my name in other peoples posts! AHH! Im such a popularity whore!

Thansks you
Sterockicy

Thanks but what did I do?

At 1/27/07 08:39 PM, Sterockicy wrote: OOOOOOOWW HELLO! Style points! Originality points! Colourful points!

stolen actually.

Minus style points, Minus originality points, Minus colour points, Plus theft points!

Congratulations on 20000 saves! Some day I hope to make that. I will contact you in 3 years when I make it, k?

sure I will answer.

Sweeeeeet! I look forward to that day!

At 1/28/07 08:59 PM, ReconRebel wrote: For the love of God, no more pong games!!

Well its better than snake games.

Oh, so true! Dont forget dress up games!

At 1/29/07 01:14 AM, Sterockicy wrote:

Thansks you
Sterockicy

Thanks but what did I do?

You probably congratulated him after he hit his 20000 Saves mark and posted that awesome looking screenie.

Coop wades through the post to congratulate:
backflipair: 2,000 Experience
Dictatorlordx: Level 10
kidiri: 500 posts
AndersonCouncil: Level 15
MetalDart: 300 reviews (flash)
Odyssic: EG Private 1st Class; 2,000 B/P
Bolo: 4,000 Posts; Level 11

At 1/28/07 05:10 AM, Casualty wrote:

At 1/28/07 04:16 AM, Coop83 wrote: I haven't quite got that far yet... give me a week or two to get up there with those responses

I probably read wrong >_> <_<

Less haste, more speed, young padawan

Trust me, it's better than a game of Nick Farr Jones

In that case...

A rugby style drinking game, based around the former Australian captain, Nick Farr Jones. Basically, it is counting in Roman Numerals, but with I replaced with Nick, V with Farr and X with Jones.

Player 1 starts with Nick, then player 2 is Nick Nick and so on. The first person to say it wrong (once challenged) must down a drink. If they are incorrectly challenged, the challenger must drink. The highest you can go is 40 (XL, since there is no term for L) So if you get that far and you're successful, reward yourself with a drink.

At 1/28/07 08:22 AM, Bahamut wrote: Coop83 - 100 responses. Maybe about 10 of them were from me. :D

Thankees. Actually, it was 8, but who's really counting?

At 1/28/07 09:06 AM, schneelocke wrote:

At 1/28/07 04:16 AM, Coop83 wrote: It's been too long since we last danced, hasn't it?

*s* Yeah. Feel like doing some DDR? ^^

I'm far too bruised for that - cricket practice has already started this year.

At 1/28/07 06:29 PM, AtomicTerrorist wrote: i remember back when i was an elite guard first class... wow its been a while

It's the same for us all

At 1/29/07 04:13 AM, Coop83 wrote: I'm far too bruised for that - cricket practice has already started this year.

Hmm, cricket... that weird game where noone understands what's actually going on. Kinda like baseball, but for gentlemen. :)

Seriously, though, you can never be too bruised for DDR! *drags you off*

Coop83 you a bit of a cricket fan are you?

Say your from the UK, Hows England going against Australia at the moment?

MWAHAHAHAHA!