At 4/29/05 06:49 PM, VanillaTemper wrote: I know this really isn't the place to ask but most of you guys have sweet names.....And Ive had alot of trouble finding a name I like for myself, so if you can could you please suggest a good and original name?

Dude, seriously ... nobody here is better at finding a name that fits good than yourself. Ok, I'll give it a try ... what about "OMGICANTFINDANAME"? 'Cause it's all I know about you ...

Tomorrow is my big NG B-Day and I am so very close (about a week) away from lvl 12. Damn, if i hadn't of missed so many deposits i might have been able to lvl up on my NG B-Day... so this would be my third year here.

3 year user as of tomorrow!

At 4/29/05 08:46 AM, -DaughterOfHades- wrote: --------IMPORTANT NEWS--------

It's time to enforce the Newgrounds rule:

"Stat Topics aren't allowed. Everyone on NG (potentially) has a profile for a reason. No need to have a "Post your popularity here!" thread. Level up (blam/protect or experience) threads and threads about how many posts you have are also not allowed."

Wait a second, RC, I never said that we should "enforce the NG BBS rule" about stat topics with regards to this topic.

I said that this topic might get locked if all the casual conversation moved to the new lounge you (and Toocool, apparently?... I don't get that, but anywho) created... because ALL that would be left here is JUST stat achievement posting and congratulating and so forth.

Something that various users on this very forum have differing opinions on, of course, but something that, by itself, might not be seen as a good enough purpose for this topic for the admins to leave it open for years and years to come... like it's been left open for the past 2.5+ years.

In short, the reason I agreed with you that it was a good idea to lock your new lounge and to entertain the changing of this lounge into ONLY a lounge, with no more stat-only conversation (not that stats can't be mentioned, but posts in here would be discouraged from being ONLY about stats, especially "oooo, 300 blams!" and meaningless unimpressive things like that...

anyway, the reason I agreed was that it was for the GOOD OF THIS THREAD and for keeping this thread open, period. I didn't say it was so that the rules would be enforced. Just wanted to make that clear.

Here's what we're gonna do:

I will try...
I will be locking
I will try to get jonthomson to allow me to unlock...
This will now be the Lounge in Where is/How to.
This will not be a place where you can post your achievements,
Anyway, I'll be deleting irrelevant and spam posts from now on.
gfoxcook and I have decided that it's in the best interest for the forum,

I snipped the rest of your post down to those lines because I wanted to highlight the language you were using. Man, I'm all for this, but when did you and I decide for everyone else that this was the way it was going to be? The way I believe I phrased it on AIM was:

"so anyway, make a post about our convo in level up! and see what people have to say about this. Find out what spancker thinks, etc. etc."

I didn't say go ahead and tell everyone this is the way it's going to be! Me + you does not equal any sort of ultimate authority on the matter. Though we are both mods, so is jonthomson, so is ramagi, so are a lot of people around here. I just wanted to start TALKS about how we can improve the situation in here so that people like myself who hardly ever come by anymore (in my case, for around 12 months) because of all the insane amounts of posts in here and the devolution of the topic into WAY too much insignificant-stat-bragging-ONLY posting... and so forth.

I didn't want to unilaterally (well, okay, bilaterally) enforce our views on everyone else starting today! Whoa, man. I apparently didn't convey that strongly enough, but I thought my "see what everyone thinks" thing was clear enough. #;-}>

Ideas? Comments? Suggestions?

EXACTLY! That's what I wanted to hear from people besides you and me. Not what ended up happening because of the way you phrased some things... anywho...

There are plenty of topics out there (ramagi's EXP topic, gfoxcook's VP and Pentalist topics, Jonthomson's Reviews topic [which I will ask Jon to unlock in the next day or so], D0GMA's Blam&Save topic, gfoxcook's Blams and [unrelated] Saves topic) that will cater to your specific discussion regarding those relevant topics of interest.

THIS is the key part, BTW, people. I'll get to that more in just a sec, though:

At 4/29/05 01:45 PM, jonthomson wrote: Nope. That was locked BEFORE any of this shit came up.

I think RC realises that, jon, but your topic is the only stat list topic in this forum that's been locked (well, since Dobio's, but the stat Dobio's list was of is something that shouldn't be encouraged to be discussed all that much, anyway... we don't need a topic for postcount bragging and not much else).

If everyone (or at least a good majority) agrees that this new plan is a good idea, then wouldn't it make sense to unlock your topic so there's a place for people like XwaynecoltX, KWAS, Tiger_Chick, RyanAn, and MARCUS to post about reviews? Yes, yes, I know there's a reviewers club, but there are people like myself who never go to C&C anymore, and Wi/Ht? is stat list central, so... my point is that even if your list is dead forever, it doesn't mean the topic has to be. I'm not closing my VP topic, for instance.

So instead of one topic where people are free to post statistical achievements, you want people to use several topics (which only consisted because of the lists, all barring one or possibly two being dead anyway) to post their stats? On the principle that you want this single thread to remain stat-post free?

People ALREADY use several topics to do that, man. And besides, there IS a topic that's about all of the stats.

SK'S NGTL topic.

And to a lesser degree, my pentalist topics.

Couldn't one or both of THOSE serve as a "catch all" stat discussion topic, seeing as how it's on-topic in them?

Dogma's b/p topic has LONG been the center of b/p discussion. WAY more than level up! ever was. level up! may have been the center of exp discussion and level discussion, but haven't there been plenty of similar conversations in ramagi's exp topic, or even YOUR exp list topic or the pentalist or NGTL? See my point?

Ah, so the aforementioned "we" consists of yourself and gfoxcook now, does it? You can't possibly use the rules argument anyway, seeing how the topic predates the rules document.

He was speaking from his own view there, just to make that clear. I never said this topic violates the rule, in fact I've defended it time and time again. HOWEVER, this topic would be much harder to defend if it was no longer our lounge (which RC was seeking to accomplish by setting up a new lounge). You and I shared that fear that this would become nothing BUT a stat-announcement topic, which would endager its future... didn't we?

Anyway, I guess we disagree on the SOLUTION to those fears/problems, if not the problems themselves.

You've lost your mind.

LOL! Well, he phrased his post somewhat badly...

At 4/29/05 02:22 PM, -Myst- wrote:

At 4/29/05 02:08 PM, -Mazza- wrote: It does...But still, if any of the admins actually had a problem with this, don't you think they'd have locked it themselves a long time ago? And also, I think it'd encourage a lot of people to make 'I leveled up!' threads, if they don't have somewhere to post about it.

For the past 2.5 years, this topic has been THE place to hang out and talk about ANYTHING... IOW, to LOUNGE on this forum. RC's recent creation of a NEW lounge put that purpose into doubt.

Of course the admins never locked the topic in the past... it was a valuable topic, it served as a lounge, other forums (such as flash and politics) have huge and useful lounges where the regulars hang out with no single topic to discuss... etc. etc.

But the FUTURE of this topic was recently in doubt due to RC's new lounge. Capisce?

Good point. Even if I'm not actually against the idea of cutting the crap that's, in my honest opinion, going around here since a fucking long time, I got to admit I like it better to see it here instead of seeing it in the whole board ...

Where have you been? O_o

And also the fact that only two persons decide about something that has been going for a while annoys me a little. Addicted to power aren't you?

Again! I wasn't trying to decide things for everyone, I was SUGGESTING this along with RC. I didn't know he was going to phrase things so badly or I would have made the post instead of him. Oy vey...

Don't accuse him of being power-hungry... he made his new lounge because he was disgusted with this topic (whereas I just tend to avoid it, he wanted to change it). We both had a bit of a disagreement IN his lounge... and we talked for a couple of hours on AIM last night and figured that if WE could come to an agreement, and seeing as how so very many people around here (yourself, joobie, lightning, etc. etc.) have become increasingly tired of stat-talk, it would be good to try and cut it out of the lounge if that would improve everyone's experience.

Of course, if the majority disagrees with RC and me, we'll both shut up. I had no intention of uni/bilaterally enforcing this upon everyone. I don't think RC did either, I think he just phrased things badly while asking for comments and questions and so forth.

Ok, the following happened to me today:

1. I leveled up; I'm now Level 10

2. My first 'Awesome Score' submission (meaning it was highlighted in blue in the portal), The Betrayal of X, passed and is residing on the Portal front page right now. Catch it before it disappears!

That is all. :)

At 4/29/05 04:19 AM, Alkador wrote: War of the Portal - Part 4
6 - “The Last Ancient”
“But Dobio is still alive…” Eldarion said, cradling his broken arm from Rat’s attack.

I knew it. We'll never be able to kill Dobio unless one of us sacrifices themselves in the process. I nominate Qwoxyl.

It was done. “Penta formation!”

The roflcopter landed on the helipad as gfoxcook smiled.

It's great the way you've incorporated certain terminologies into the story Alkador. I love reading it.

At 4/29/05 07:39 AM, Eldarion wrote:

At 4/28/05 11:11 PM, EKRegulus wrote: j00bie posted "first post" in the last NG news topic. That's why he's banned.

Fuck's sake, why, oh why did j00b have to do that? I'm gonna miss the bastard. AGAIN. ;_;

I really don't understand it myself Eldarion. The guy just finished serving a major ban then turns around and pulls a stunt like that. It almost like he was testing the water.

At 4/29/05 12:08 PM, NorwayClock wrote: Well on my two 3 day bans this week, I got 800 blams, 200 protects, and got police captain. :D

Less posting and more voting makes NorwayClock a happy camper!

At 4/29/05 01:55 PM, BonusToTheStage wrote: The one time i wasn't being sarcastic you think i was being it, not everyone knew that,why would RR have asked if he knew

It's cool BonusStage. I wouldn't have asked for a link if I knew what happened. Instead of searching for the info I assumed a forum regular would answer my question since everyone is so helpful in here.

At 4/29/05 02:21 PM, EKRegulus wrote: Looks like the perfect solution doesn't exist.

There's no such thing as a perfect solution EK, only perfect intentions. That's why pencils have a sharp point on one end and an eraser on the other.

At 4/29/05 06:49 PM, VanillaTemper wrote: Ive had alot of trouble finding a name I like for myself, so if you can could you please suggest a good and original name?

'Bugnuts' has always been a favorite of mine. Not sure how you feel about it.

At 4/29/05 07:59 PM, gfoxclock wrote:

At 4/29/05 01:45 PM, jonthomson wrote: You've lost your mind.

LOL! Well, he phrased his post somewhat badly...

Come on now... haven't we all balanced on the edge of reality at least once in our lives. Anyway, I don't think Red is insane, just a little over zealous.

At 4/29/05 08:07 PM, Forte_EXE wrote: Ok, the following happened to me today:

1. I leveled up; I'm now Level 10

Mortal fool! Haven't you been following the discussion in here?!?

Stone him! Stone him! Congrats Forte_EXE.

I'm very sorry people. After reading my "Important News" post, I realized that my point was botched. Remind me not to post Important News when I'm almost half asleep. =(

My real point wasn't about totally enforcing the "no-stats" rule (and after reading my post, it really did seem like it, but that wasn't my intention at all), but it was to filter the stats-only posts in here. When people level up, rank-up, or hit some sweet numbers, I think it's really nice to allow people to post about it. I've just noticed that as time progressed, the definition of "sweet numbers" became more and more subjective, and a lot of people were posting about anything that even stood out (i.e. 10101 blams, 4004 saves, rank# 69, etc...). The more those posts started appearing, the less and less I (and I'm sure other people) became interested in even browsing the LUL.

What I feel should be acceptable for posting stats-wise is this:

If you reach a new level, then go ahead and post.
If you reach a new bp badge rank, then you may post.
If you reach a multiple of 1,000 in something (i.e. 3000 blams, 5,000 Exp (+5 depending on if you have a 5 at the end), then you may post.
If you reach a cool number like 1337, or 6666/2222/etc...that's also cool.

Things that are just starting to get spammy:

Multiples of less than 1,000 (i.e. 300 blams, 40 saves, 55 Exp)
X number of days before you level up, rank up, get a cool number. Those are too spammy.

Things that I'm undecided on:

Posting only a level up (i.e. "Just hit level 13" End of post.) Should that be acceptable?
Posting only a b/p rank-up (i.e. "Just got EGPFC" End of post.) Should that be acceptable?
Posting only a cool number (i.e. "Just got 2,000 blams" End of post.) Should that be acceptable?

I'm sorry to have worded it like it was the final decision, and I really don't know what I was thinking earlier, so please forgive me. Somehow in my mind, I thought that post would say the same thing as what I wrote above this paragraph. I was wrong.

At 4/29/05 10:29 AM, -Myst- wrote: Well, I think it's a good think that these stats talks finally end. It was getting rather boring just to see stats and lists everywhere, it stopped to make sense after all :-\

I guess seeing less stats talk (especially the trivial numbers) is what's going to make it better in here. I'm fine with seeing people level up, get new b/p badges, or reaching impressive numbers, but when the post is only about stats, and trivial stats at that, maybe the line should be drawn. I hope that satisfies your boredom just a little =)

At 4/29/05 10:50 AM, Tom_s00 wrote: Ok, im not sure i compltely agrre, but hey your the one with the authority around here lol, are you going to allow time for the stat in here to fizzle out, as im sure alot of people will not read this, it would be unfair to ban if somebody is not imformed about the new ruleing in here.

Authority is really not the issue...and I'm really not trying to use it at all at this point. I respect all the people in this forum much more than the mods and admins. My original point wasn't worded correctly, so hopefully after reading this post, you will understand what my original intention was. =)

At 4/29/05 11:36 AM, BonusToTheStage wrote: I don't like the idea, this was the one place to brag, the one place where even admins said YES IT'S OK, and since the lists are all shut down, it was the one place for everyone to know you got something really cool, that in turn would give you a little boost of pride for all your hard work when others congrated you, and the other lounge was never a bad idea, just some people thought it was dumb, for no REAL REASON AT ALL :(.

First off, I respect you for your post, and point, Mike. Even though this lounge is a place where the admins allowed people to brag about their accomplishments, I think it got a little out-of-control. The best course of action isn't making this a "no-stats" topic. It isn't having two lounges for two different topics, but keeping up on this lounge, and making sure that it isn't ALL about stats and gratslists.

You said "it was the one place for everyone to know you got something really cool" and I'd wholeheartedly agree with you if people only posted the stats that were really cool, but who really knows what "really cool" is anymore? My definition (listed above) might be totally different than yours. I'm just throwing it out there, and I'll see if people agree with me, so that I'll have a basis to go by when monitoring this topic.

It'll ruin the fun of this thread, and the other thread IMO was working just fine before the big kids started yelling at each other :\.

Heh, would it be ok with you if we just had this topic as the lounge, but made sure it didn't get all spammed up with pointless posts? My thinking is that this lounge would be GREAT if it was based on chatting, and if someone got a new achievement, then it'd be fine if they posted about it, because as of right now, it's ONLY about stats...which kills me, because, I wanna talk to people in here. =)

At 4/29/05 11:57 AM, Toocool100 wrote: Figures that when i finally help in create something cool (one lounge to rule them all) it gets locked >:(

You have to admit (even though geefox won't agree lol), the name kicked ass ;-)

RAWR!!

oh baby =)

At 4/29/05 01:35 PM, EKRegulus wrote: Should we post our achievements in the related threads (for example, a rank-up into Dogma's thread or into gfox's voting power list because the rank-up gives a nice vp boost) instead of posting the reached milestones here? I guess that if it's accepted then posting weak stats that nobody cares about (for example, 300 blams or 50 saves) won't be allowed.

I'm really sorry, EK. This topic (LUL) should be used to post major accomplishments, but if you want to talk about one of the following: XP, B & P, VP or Reviews, then there is a topic solely dedicated to that point of discussion, so that the lounge can function smoothly.

At 4/29/05 01:45 PM, jonthomson wrote:

At 4/29/05 08:46 AM, -DaughterOfHades- wrote: Here's what we're gonna do:

Who is we?

Me and my second personality...um... dunno dude. sorry.

I will be locking my "The One Lounge" since there isn't a need for two lounges in one forum.

Which is good to see...

Heh, well I guess it's for the better.

I will try to get jonthomson to allow me to unlock his Reviews topic so that people may post in there if they want to talk about Reviews (since there will be little discussion about reviews in here).

Nope. That was locked BEFORE any of this shit came up.

I was thinking that if we were to somewhat limit stat discussion in the LUL (not end it, but filter it so that it's more on-topic and relevant), then when people wanted to talk about the different parts in their profile (XP, BP, VP, Rev, etc...) they had a place to talk about it. Modding those would also have to be done, but I think that there are people who love to talk about reviews in this forum, and them having a place to talk, and discuss reviews would be nice. If you don't want to bother, I'll understand, since it is your topic in the first place.

This will now be the Lounge in Where is/How to. This will not be a place where you can post your achievements, but rather, you may engage in casual conversation. The reason? It's against the rules. This topic (and forum) have been built on stats, and it might take some time for people to adjust, but all in all, it's for the best for the topic and forum as a whole.

Translation: Mike is an idiot.

Okokok, please ignore that shit...I was misunderstanding what I wanted to say earlier this morning.

There are plenty of topics out there (ramagi's EXP topic, gfoxcook's VP and Pentalist topics, Jonthomson's Reviews topic [which I will ask Jon to unlock in the next day or so], D0GMA's Blam&Save topic, gfoxcook's Blams and [unrelated] Saves topic) that will cater to your specific discussion regarding those relevant topics of interest.

So instead of one topic where people are free to post statistical achievements, you want people to use several topics (which only consisted because of the lists, all barring one or possibly two being dead anyway) to post their stats? On the principle that you want this single thread to remain stat-post free?

Heh, I can now understand why you got so defensive. My fault. =(

Ideas? Comments? Suggestions?

You've lost your mind.

It's around here somewhere. Technically I haven't lost it, I just can't find it. =)

But, if you feel the need to flame me, do it in e-mail, or AIM, and I'll hear you out gladly.

Nope, I'll air it here actually. If the whole texture of this forum is going to change on your whim, it only seems fair that everyone sees discussion. Especially considering that you're the one that has seemingly invisaged the "problem" and a self appointed cartel is deciding on what to do about the "problem".

Yanno, next time, I'll e-mail everyone. There's no point in stirring up matters like this without getting the Members/Mods approval. "a self appointed cartel " I can see how I looked like that, but I'm really not like that. I respect everyone's opinion, and it's just taken me a little while to figure out what's the correct course of action. I'll say this...

I do a lot better on AIM or chat, because I'm a very one-on-one person.

At 4/29/05 02:21 PM, EKRegulus wrote: What are the choices?
1-Keeping two lounges, one for stats, one for dicussions but this MIGHT oblige the admins to lock the level-up lounge which will create another problem.
2-The current situation but do we really want the users to pollute the lists' threads with achievements? Of course, these threads already include this kind of posts but their amount are limited or the achievements are included into the discussions.
3-Completely enforce the rules. Some regulars will leave and many stat threads might appear in the general forum.

You forgot 4-Make some rules in here to limit (but not end) stat-posting.

I actually had this idea a long time ago, but that was back when I first started posting. Heh.

At 4/29/05 02:22 PM, -Myst- wrote: And also the fact that only two persons decide about something that has been going for a while annoys me a little. Addicted to power aren't you?

Myst...my post was fucked up dude. I didn't want to "decide" anything, but rather start the LUL into something more refined. Please don't accuse me of being power hungry, but realize that I would have said something similiar even if I wasn't a mod. I took my post to the extreme, which I should have never done. It was to be a suggestions post, but I just screwed it all up. Arg.

At 4/29/05 03:53 PM, _IAMCanadian_ wrote:

You shouldn't fuck with a good thing, it's as simple as that.

Um, since it isn't a good thing, we have a problem. This topic makes more people frustrated than you'll ever know.

At 4/29/05 04:32 PM, That-Is-Bull wrote: It's my birthday, I'm a year old now.

Happy birthday dude.

At 4/29/05 05:03 PM, schneelocke wrote: Oh, and -DaughterOfHades-, you're fucking insane.

You've never been wrong on something? Well, I'm sorry. There, you've made a mod apoligize to you personally. Feel better?

At 4/29/05 09:42 PM, -DaughterOfHades- wrote:

At 4/29/05 03:53 PM, _IAMCanadian_ wrote:

You shouldn't fuck with a good thing, it's as simple as that.

Um, since it isn't a good thing, we have a problem. This topic makes more people frustrated than you'll ever know.

Sorry, I made this post when I thought that you meant to end all stat discussion in this thread. If you just mean to regulate it to filter out the spam, go right ahead.

At 4/29/05 05:16 PM, Eldarion wrote: Great point. The WHOLE PURPOSE of the LUL was to confine all stat discussion to ONE topic, so as to prevent the forum becoming flooded with such topics. And now you want to spread all that discussion throughout MULTIPLE threads, RC? That's crazy, and it goes against the no-stat-thread rule more than this thread ever did.

Heh, it's always been like that Eld. Back a few months ago, people used to post in the list topics regularily (when the lists were active). Since there isn't that much to talk about regarding specific points of people's stats after the discontinuation of the lists, that's probably why they aren't on the front page anymore.

The LUL can't be a jack of all trades and a master of none. If you go back to the old LUL, you have just that, a discussion thread and an achievement thread, but IT DOESN'T WORK. When anyone tries to start a conversation, it gets washed away in a torrent of screenshots and congrats lists.

If there were limils on what people can and can't post in the LUL, then it would work.

Therefore, the only solution in my eyes is to have BOTH a lounge for stat posts/stat discussion, AND a lounge for general chat. Reinstate the old LUL minus the general chat and unlock the TOLTRTA thread.

Unfortunately, keeping them both open will result in one of them being locked. It just can't happen. I'm sorry, but since the LUL is the more important lounge, we will just have to keep it less spammy, and more on topic (with the occasional rank-up/achievement).

I realise my input is nowhere near as valued around here as that of RedCircle, Denvish, gfox, etc, but if you read all of this, I thank you. I'd appreciate any comments, or whatever.

You know your opinion counts with me, Mike. Even if you're on the other side of the tracks.

At 4/29/05 05:32 PM, Pure_LionHeart wrote: Congrats to all since I'm too God damned lazy to read all those pages. I see some weird stuff is going on with renaming this thread and that One Lounge To Rull Them All, but meh. Too lazy to get into that too.

Sorry to hear that. This is why I'm trying to cut down on the trivial posts in here. Anyway, good to see you bud. =)

At 4/29/05 06:07 PM, YoinK_VineS wrote: 24 days til I finally reach level 24. OMG!

You're almost there Vince. Keep it up dude =)

At 4/29/05 06:34 PM, -Myst- wrote:

At 4/29/05 06:07 PM, YoinK_VineS wrote: 24 days til I finally reach level 24. OMG!

Eh! You can't say that anymore dude ... so ... OMGWADEPLZBAN!!!

=(

At 4/29/05 07:01 PM, BonusToTheStage wrote: According to R"I have lost my god damn mind"C you can't do that anymore, sorry Vince, but i guess you should just leave and never come back, the last of Wi/Ht?'s powerhouse threads is about to be ruined by a mod that is just a BIT too worried about a system that was working JUST FINE.

This one paragraph has probably hurt me more than any other post I've ever read about me. =(

At 4/29/05 07:08 PM, Myst_Williams wrote: Tomorrow is my big NG B-Day and I am so very close (about a week) away from lvl 12. Damn, if i hadn't of missed so many deposits i might have been able to lvl up on my NG B-Day... so this would be my third year here.

3 year user as of tomorrow!

Well, that's awesome. Good luck with that, MWs.

At 4/29/05 07:57 PM, gfoxclock wrote:

At 4/29/05 08:46 AM, -DaughterOfHades- wrote: --------IMPORTANT NEWS--------

It's time to enforce the Newgrounds rule:

"Stat Topics aren't allowed. Everyone on NG (potentially) has a profile for a reason. No need to have a "Post your popularity here!" thread. Level up (blam/protect or experience) threads and threads about how many posts you have are also not allowed."

Wait a second, RC, I never said that we should "enforce the NG BBS rule" about stat topics with regards to this topic.

I know...I jumped the gun. It did appear as if that's what we were talking about, but I think I understand what we were talking about now.

I said that this topic might get locked if all the casual conversation moved to the new lounge you (and Toocool, apparently?... I don't get that, but anywho) created... because ALL that would be left here is JUST stat achievement posting and congratulating and so forth.

The new lounge idea was proposed in the RCVL- Stay or Go topic. A lot of people agreed with the idea, and I needed a name, so I talked to Denvish and TooCool. It was my idea to make it, and my idea to lock it. So much for it...lol

I would agree that having two lounges in Wi/Ht (or for that matter, any forum) would result in one of them getting locked (or deleted). Which, btw, happened...so, I guess it's true. heh.

Something that various users on this very forum have differing opinions on, of course, but something that, by itself, might not be seen as a good enough purpose for this topic for the admins to leave it open for years and years to come... like it's been left open for the past 2.5+ years.

Well, Admins don't patrol the forums. Mods do. I would think that they'd respect our decision to leave it open if we felt that it's purpose now justifies it's lack of purpose when it was created.

In short, the reason I agreed with you that it was a good idea to lock your new lounge and to entertain the changing of this lounge into ONLY a lounge, with no more stat-only conversation (not that stats can't be mentioned, but posts in here would be discouraged from being ONLY about stats, especially "oooo, 300 blams!" and meaningless unimpressive things like that...

I dropped the ball (btw, I'm running out of analogies for "screwing up" so if you all have any more that I haven't said yet, then please let me know).

I did not mean for it to be an ultimatum. At all. It was more on the lines of, what do you all think about this? But, I was a bit too forceful, and the point in my head never got onto the board.

anyway, the reason I agreed was that it was for the GOOD OF THIS THREAD and for keeping this thread open, period. I didn't say it was so that the rules would be enforced. Just wanted to make that clear.

This topic is somewhat valuble (maybe to you all more than me, but I do see it's history and importance)...and yes, it's clear.

Man, I'm all for this, but when did you and I decide for everyone else that this was the way it was going to be?

I....don't.....know.... =(

At 4/29/05 07:59 PM, gfoxclock wrote: I didn't know he was going to phrase things so badly or I would have made the post instead of him. Oy vey...

Heh, I was just very tired, and didn't want to wait another day for the new lounge to get even bigger. The post wasn't put together correctly (you all can say "NO SHIT" now) and I hopefully have made my point into what it was supposed to be in my posts here.

Of course, if the majority disagrees with RC and me, we'll both shut up. I had no intention of uni/bilaterally enforcing this upon everyone. I don't think RC did either, I think he just phrased things badly while asking for comments and questions and so forth.

Yeah, and sorry once again. I do feel strongly about coming up with a list of things that are and are not acceptable to post in here.

T'would be nice if everyone put in their two cents on that matter, so the mods can have a basis as to what to keep and what to delete.

At 4/29/05 08:07 PM, Forte_EXE wrote: Ok, the following happened to me today:

1. I leveled up; I'm now Level 10

2. My first 'Awesome Score' submission (meaning it was highlighted in blue in the portal), The Betrayal of X, passed and is residing on the Portal front page right now. Catch it before it disappears!

Congrats on both dude. (especially number 2) Getting blue is almost orgasmic.

At 4/29/05 09:22 PM, ReconRebel wrote:

At 4/29/05 07:59 PM, gfoxclock wrote:

At 4/29/05 01:45 PM, jonthomson wrote: You've lost your mind.

LOL! Well, he phrased his post somewhat badly...

Come on now... haven't we all balanced on the edge of reality at least once in our lives. Anyway, I don't think Red is insane, just a little over zealous.

Lack of sleep will make me do stoopid things. Oh, and I tried to get Greg to define Zealous earlier this morning, and I can't remember if he actually gave me the definition, so I'll go see what that means now.

/me goes to www.dictionary.com

At 4/29/05 09:57 PM, _IAMCanadian_ wrote: Sorry, I made this post when I thought that you meant to end all stat discussion in this thread. If you just mean to regulate it to filter out the spam, go right ahead.

Yeah, I crashed the plane (ok, that analogy was just retarded, HELP ME!). Thanks for understanding. =)

I was confused before RedCircle (i'll eventually stop calling you that : P), but now i understand. I think you cleared things up pretty well there.

Thanks also for the congrats. I just hope everything settles and we can get this forum back to its prime.

I agree that things have gotten spammy at times.

I will visit once a day and i will be behind two pages, sometimes more, which is insane. I can't find the time to congrats everyone anymore. And i find that i see some people posting an accomplishment a week or more. Now, of course, some are ligit stat wores : P, but some are just giving miniscule accomplishments just to keep active in here. I haven't posted a real accomplishment in ages (and by real i mean stats, tomorrow is my NG B-Day and last week was my actual B-Day... those i would not consider real NG accomplishments). I think my last accomplishment was making top #1000 B/P and the lists were still up then. Really there should not be as many pages of accomplishments as there are per day. Thus, a lot are not ligit accomplishments that follow the great guidlines you set up above.

Basically i think your first post (which was the only i read thoroughly - the rest i skimmed) gave good guidlines and i happen to agree at most with it. I am glad that you have rectified that you were discussing and not demanding now, because at first i was baffled.

Some order around here should help put the place back in track. This forum is great, but it can be better and a little clean up it could use.

Anyway, i was just saying thanks for clearing things up.

Brain = overloaded after Gfox and RC posts.
I anot goign to bother quoting from various posts.
/me sets all systems normal.
How about Beer all around.
Burry the hachets and that good stuff.

At 4/29/05 10:52 PM, ramagi wrote: Brain = overloaded after Gfox and RC posts.

lol, you can't handle their multi-quoting style?

I anot goign to bother quoting from various posts.

I guess that's fine. It's preference.

/me sets all systems normal.

normal, wait... we're in a chatroom now? I hope not.

How about Beer all around.

yes please

Burry the hachets and that good stuff.

good stuff is good.

I got a job at a restaurant called.. Red Robin. So no more Mcdonalds for me!!! :)

What a drama.
Yanno, when I first discovered the NG BBS, this thread was the first one I became interested in, and although I rarely have anything worth posting, I lurk here often. I have always found the regulars here to be more mature and intelligent and helpful on the whole.
This furor over the future of the LUL has been surreal.
I agree (not that anyone cares what I think) that some of the posts lately have been a little "spammy;" but I am puzzled by the proposed "solutions."
RC mentioned new rules regulating what constitutes an appropriate stat to post here. OK, so once the cool-police decide what is postworthy, do you think that those who the new "rules" are aimed at will actually read them?
So, when some kid just entering nooberty posts "woot! i got my 333th blam!" (creating ONE spam post) he will be corrected by three regulars saying "nice, but you aren't allowed to post that sort of stat here." (plus 3 on the spam/counter spam o meter)
Immediately thereafter, Wootie Nooberty will post yet again: "WTF? why not?" (spam o meter now up to 5 total.)
Haven't you just exacerbated the very problem you were intending to solve?

This thread has endured and evolved just fine for quite some time. Don't you think the pendulum will swing the other way on its own and this spammy trend will self correct without (semi) divine intervention?

I'm nobody (certainly not an all-powerful, thread-locking, ban stick wielding mod) but this is my 2 cents worth.
Worth what you paid for it, I guess.

Have fun kids. that is what this is supposed to be, isn't it?

1500 blams

At 4/30/05 12:09 AM, YoinK_VineS wrote: I got a job at a restaurant called.. Red Robin. So no more Mcdonalds for me!!! :)

Congrats on the new job YoinK. After a night of bar-hopping 4 of my buddies and I stopped at a local Red Robin for some much needed food. I ordered a huge plate of chicken wings and before the first wing reached my lips the bowl of blue cheese dip did a 9.5 backflip and ended up in my lap. Needless to say all my friends lost it. Kinda ruined the buzz I had going.

Happy NG birthday MW, buy yourself a beer (or something with alcohol in it) and drink up.

At 4/29/05 06:49 PM, VanillaTemper wrote: I know this really isn't the place to ask but most of you guys have sweet names.....And Ive had alot of trouble finding a name I like for myself, so if you can could you please suggest a good and original name?

Unfortuantly, that post does not give us much to work from. In order for anyone to suggest a name, details are needed. I see you have a dark aura, you live in Canada, like A Clockwork Orange and you cannot describe yourself in 255 characters. From this info, your new name is now DarkCandianOrange255Plus. Enjoy.

At 4/29/05 06:07 PM, YoinK_VineS wrote: 24 days til I finally reach level 24. OMG!

Yay, I haven't seen you leveled up since... the last time you leveled up. You also get rid of the toothpick and get a better weapon. The new job you got that 'allows' some other poor soul to work at McDonald's sounds interesting, I'm glad you have a better place to work now, a real resturant.

At 4/29/05 09:22 PM, ReconRebel wrote:

At 4/29/05 04:19 AM, Alkador wrote: War of the Portal - Part 4
6 - “The Last Ancient”
“But Dobio is still alive…” Eldarion said, cradling his broken arm from Rat’s attack.

I knew it. We'll never be able to kill Dobio unless one of us sacrifices themselves in the process. I nominate Qwoxyl.

Hey! There are plently of other people who can die. Besides, I'm too young to die, even in fiction.

At 4/29/05 08:07 PM, Forte_EXE wrote: Ok, the following happened to me today:

1. I leveled up; I'm now Level 10

Congrats, the first large gap is behind you. There are about 20 others in front of you, but the time will appear to pass quicker.

2. My first 'Awesome Score' submission (meaning it was highlighted in blue in the portal), The Betrayal of X, passed and is residing on the Portal front page right now. Catch it before it disappears!

It's only 23rd in the list, meaning it's not disappearing for several hours. But it's still blue, so good work.

At 4/29/05 09:41 PM, -DaughterOfHades- wrote: Things that are just starting to get spammy:

Multiples of less than 1,000 (i.e. 995 Exp)

The people with a last digit other than zero aren't going to like you if they take that literally. But I agree that most achievements that aren't 1000xN aren't cool either.

X number of days before you level up, rank up, get a cool number. Those are too spammy.

Agreed, everyone can say something like that, I'm so glad they don't.

Things that I'm undecided on:
Posting only a level up (i.e. "Just hit level 13" End of post.) Should that be acceptable?
Posting only a b/p rank-up (i.e. "Just got EGPFC" End of post.) Should that be acceptable?

If it's a high level, it doesn't happen often and most people going to congratulate them anyway (and they know it, so they might think writing something special is pointless at the moment they get it and might choose to waffle on later). For the lower ones (and we might have a bunch of chains to look forward to in the future, mine included), something else should be written.

Posting only a cool number (i.e. "Just got 2,000 blams" End of post.) Should that be acceptable?

No, cool numbers can appear in a variety of ways (blams, saves, b/s, posts, etc), meaning it would be easy for 5 or more cool numbers to be posted in one day. We cannot have 5 extremely short posts every day and since they're easier to get then the main milestones, the posters should add some conversation to the lounge.

And yes, I forgive you for what you said.

Hey all, I'm sure you've forgotten who I am by now. :P Stopping by since I see most everything has been straightened out I think. It seems my thoughts were right about that whole 2 separate lounges thing. Was just waiting for that to pan out. I don't mind the new name, it'd prevent new people from stopping by to post ranks and regulars could casually integrate important accomplishments into their posts here instead of it JUST being posting your achievement here. That's sounds good to me but whatever. RC, do you plan on e-mailing what I e-mailed you? o_O Slacker. )_:< I made it into the top 70 b/pers the other day by skipping from 71 to 69. Very nice right there, took forever. So now I'm starting to inch in onto the top 50 which should be obtained sometime this year I hope. Pretty close to a badge rank up and could have been there a few days ago except for my weird happenings on Thursday AND Friday night that prevented me. Saturday and Sunday may not offer enough time either. -_-;; And yes, I'm the one monitoring randyrandy for those who were oblivious to the whole thing. And I'm still never ever making it to 4.000 PPD. [-: </end Kiba update> :D

I have a REALLY dumb question. For the longest time i've been only in need of logging 50 exp points to level up. This has happened from lvl 1-8, now that I'm lvl 9 it says i need 911 exp points to get to lvl 10.

if this is the case is each movie I vote on still worth only 2 exp points or do the point value increase for the movies/games i view????

if this is true then by my calculations it will take.... 92 days to level UP??!??!?!?!?

please say it isn't so... :(

11,000 blams O_0 for me thats alot of work since im very lazy and blamming and saving hehe...

BLAMS: Involved in the termination of 11,000 crappy entries.
SAVES: Assisted in the protection of 7,443 quality entries.

Now if only this 59 exp will kick in till lvl 19...

~X~

wats the point of lvl ing up

At 4/30/05 03:43 AM, FrozenDarkness wrote: wats the point of lvl ing up

To increase voting power (how much your vote is worth when voting on flash submissions) and to show how often you go to the flash portal. Some people have been coming for years (which gives them a little more respect) and an easy way to guess how long some one has been coming is to divide the amount of experience points he has by 10 (although you have to take into account the extra exp for making a profile and things that used to exist to get extra exp).

At 4/30/05 03:38 AM, PHANTOMLORD wrote: if this is the case is each movie I vote on still worth only 2 exp points or do the point value increase for the movies/games i view????

Still worth 2, 10 max per day.

if this is true then by my calculations it will take.... 92 days to level UP??!??!?!?!?

Actually, a bit longer, the top exp user will widen the gap between levels every time he deposits, which he shows no sign of stopping. Sorry I didn't lie to you.

At 4/30/05 03:39 AM, XwaynecoltX wrote: 11,000 blams O_0 for me thats alot of work since im very lazy and blamming and saving hehe...

Congrats ~X~, your laziness gradually rewards you, I mean great work.

My head hurts. I think it's safe and as I promised to RedCircle, 7.00 Voting Power. I don't post my stat achievements (3000 was only noticed by Master_Inuyasha which I didn't mention).

At 4/29/05 10:29 AM, -Myst- wrote: Oh, and great episode Alkador, I really liked this one (can't explain why though, hehe). But I think I've missed one, in which episode does the submissions destroy a mountain?

That's great, as the story is going to get better from now on. If you ever miss a chapter, just go to my website (www.jfsoftware.com/wotp) and make sure you've read some of those. I should add you on MSN as it would be good to have a talk with a person like you. And as for the mountain, I left that part out for a reason and you'll see why.

At 4/29/05 06:07 PM, YoinK_VineS wrote: 24 days til I finally reach level 24. OMG!

Damnit...I was talking about you last night to RedCircle last night. I think I'm going to have to change some things.

At 4/29/05 09:22 PM, ReconRebel wrote:

“But Dobio is still alive…” Eldarion said, cradling his broken arm from Rat’s attack.

I knew it. We'll never be able to kill Dobio unless one of us sacrifices themselves in the process. I nominate Qwoxyl.

I'll leave that for you to interpret. I'll just add that Eldarion was not present when the King killed Dobio. But the idea of Qwoxyl sounds fantastic. An avenger leads one to the dark side.

At 4/29/05 09:41 PM, -DaughterOfHades- wrote: I'm very sorry people. After reading my "Important News" post, I realized that my point was botched. Remind me not to post Important News when I'm almost half asleep.

Now it seems to make sense. I think I was not really taking much notice last night, making comments such as 'hmm' and 'hrm' and 'yeah'. I'm glad things have turned out the way they have, but I will wait for other people's comments too. You also have the issue of what Myst_William said last night, in regards to people who have not read this page (or the last).

At 4/30/05 01:36 AM, Qwoxyl wrote: Hey! There are plently of other people who can die. Besides, I'm too young to die, even in fiction.

Then who do you suggest should die? Maybe we should have a poll: Who should die? Just joking, I'm going to having a random generator decide who...dies this Part because I've grown too kind come of recent.

Anyway, how are people feeling on a day such as this? It's been a particularly grey day and I spent most of it sleeping.

Well from my vaction I got lots of b/p didn't get my gold bar. But have nifty saves see two paragraphs down.

At 4/29/05 09:41 PM, -DaughterOfHades- wrote: What I feel should be acceptable for posting stats-wise is this:
If you reach a cool number like 1337, or 6666/2222/etc...that's also cool.

What about consecuive numbers they are cool. e.g. SAVESAssisted in the protection of 3,210 quality entries. [Please note I have a screen shot of that but if I post the pic would I be flamed or punished, me thinks.

Ok after going through i.e. breifly reading gfox and RC posts I jumped to the conculsion that RC made a mistake and apologies for it. So if we post look I got 4,300 blams thats spam you guys dont want it. I think so fucking what come back when you get 4,444 blams.

Ok since my last visit I will congratulate the last two pages.
That-Is-Bull happy birthday and one day late.
Myst_Williams happy first birthday.
Yoinks new jawb.
~X~ 11,000 blams
Alkador 7.00 VP

War of the Portal - Part 4
7 - “The Rising”
Interesting note: Geminus is Latin for double. The Geminus lords represent the two submissions that have the greatest power in the world. Geminus is similar to that of Gemini, the two sisters.

“What the hell happened here?” ReconRebel roared, stepping into the house of destruction, closely tagging Stamper and Alkador behind him.
“You remember that rat we met in the city?” Afterburner said as he glanced to the_phantom_spancker and _lightning_ in particular.
“What about him?” Asked Denvish, who had heard the amusing tale.
“He came back to avenge us for Dobio’s death. I don’t understand.” Crono- said slowly, looking at the new person with an inquisitive look. “And who’s he?”
“Let’s get everyone together and talk about.” Suggested gfoxcook.

The eighteen of the group including Stamper moved themselves in the lounge. A huge hole was present in the ceiling where crumbs of black ash littered the floor. Everyone quickly proceeded to the couches, removing any form of stain they might risk sitting on.
“Is everyone here?” Asked Denvish as everyone nodded. “Let us proceed.”

RedCircle sighed as he looked out the window, noticing that the sky was gradually turning grey; a sign of late winter.
“I hope the others get back soon.” He said, wondering if the portal stones Alkador had mentioned really existed. Most likely not.
The ground suddenly shook as carmelhadinosaur entered the room, confused by the strange shockwave.
“What was that?” He asked as he looked around him and glancing at RedCircle as if he had the answers.
“It was me.” Said a voice behind them. They turned to face the source of sound, RedCircle gasping as he saw the familiar face.
The rat charged to him as he grabbed RedCircle’s hair, pulling them all out at one. He grabbed RedCircle by the legs and spun him around the room at incredible speed, throwing him to the wall and releasing a ball of ice that scarred his skin.
Gasping for air, RedCircle convulsed as he stared at the rat in fear. The illusion had caused him to fall as he shook in a state of shock.
carmelhadinosaur stared at rat feeling a burning rage. “Who are you?”
“You may call me Rat,” He said while stroking his whiskers. His voice boomed. “You will die for Dobio’s death!” Charging to the boy, Rat threw his fist causing carmelhadinosaur to fly towards the wall. A roar of hope echoed behind Rat as Eldarion charged with his with knuckle duster. Rat grinned as he caught Eldarion’s right arm, laughing manically.
“You are foolish; you will die!” He laughed as he squeezed as tight as he could, in bliss with Eldarion’s screams of agony. The sounds of two cracks tingled throughout the room as Rat stared at Eldarion with a grin.
“M-my arm!” Eldarion cried as Rat forced his foot on Eldarion’s chest, causing him to fly towards another wall. Rat laughed as he summoned bolts of lightning which began to destroy the house.

“And then I came in,” Muttered Inuzuka-Kiba, staring at Eldarion’s arm. He told the rest of the tale as gfoxcook nodded.
“It’s our turn now.”

The room shock as the group looked around in shock. Without hesitation, the group followed ReconRebel and gfoxcook, who continued to attempt to carry as many portal stones as they could. The ceiling above them gave way as huge submission giants came crashing down, roaring at the group. They spat circular discs of plasma as the group quickly reached the dead end, glancing up at the hole a few feet above them.
“No!” Roared Stamper as they all suddenly floated upwards. A thunder crack burst behind them as they stared at the mountain, which had a deep scar on its side. More began to develop as they ran on, submission giants bursting out of the ground throwing creations of the Power at them. Stamper turned to face the ambush.
“Casus!” The ground before them erupted giving way to a black abyss as they turned again, quickly proceeding towards the roflcopter, ignoring the remaining submission giant behind them.

“That’s how it was.” Said gfoxcook as he glanced at the group.
Stamper stood up as he looked at the house and the group. “I will help.” The others smiled at him as he muttered ancient words. gfoxcook raised his head quickly as he understood some of the words. Eldarion gasped as the pain from his arm vanished and the house around them began to morph. Cracks and broken walls healed as the hole in the ceiling vanished. Small pieces of debris and charred carpet faded away as Stamper finished, looking at the others. He had no need to speak.
“Gratias.” Said Alkador, having no need to translate such a word.

The King of the Portal smiled as he held Dobio’s body firm in his arms, looking at the white mansion before him. These are the ones that fought against my brother; let them grow in fear. Then I shall kill them. He placed Dobio’s body against the doorstep as he took out the golden blade from Dobio’s pocket. He smiled as he stared at the intricate design, a power of the submission Ancients. He growled as he thrust it in the dead man’s chest, feeling the pain of the man’s heart. Dobio nearly destroyed us; but his human personification prevented him from doing so. The King of the Portal grinned as he stood up, having no need to stay around any longer. He thought for a second of taking the dark ‘Heart of the Portal’ fragment on Dobio’s neck, but he had no need of making the times ahead of him less boring.

At 4/29/05 09:41 PM, -DaughterOfHades- wrote: Authority is really not the issue...and I'm really not trying to use it at all at this point. I respect all the people in this forum much more than the mods and admins. My original point wasn't worded correctly, so hopefully after reading this post, you will understand what my original intention was. =)

Ok i understand you now, an does this mean the name will stay the same here? surely there is no reason to change it now.

Also im in favour of your "congrats worthy" boundrys, i have been going by them for a while now myself, i will rarely congratulate somebody who have lot's of 2's and 4's in their profile as i don't really see this as an achivement just a conicidense.

Thanks for clearing everything up Red.

Congrats to Myst_Williams for his 3rd NG birthday (O_O wow, I thought you were a newish user), That-Is-Bull for his 1st NG Birthday, ~X~ for 11,000 blams, KIBA for #70 B/P rank and Alkador for 7.00 VP.

Thanks to Tom_s00 and schneelocke :D (no <3 for you >:D)

At 4/29/05 10:29 PM, -DaughterOfHades- wrote: Heh, it's always been like that Eld. Back a few months ago, people used to post in the list topics regularily (when the lists were active).

Yeah, but there's a difference between discussing list updates in several threads and posting short achievement posts in several threads, I think. There should only be one place for that: here.

The LUL can't be a jack of all trades and a master of none. If you go back to the old LUL, you have just that, a discussion thread and an achievement thread, but IT DOESN'T WORK. When anyone tries to start a conversation, it gets washed away in a torrent of screenshots and congrats lists.

If there were limils on what people can and can't post in the LUL, then it would work.

Yeah, I like the sound of your new rules. But you need EVERY ONE no matter their reputation, power or whatever, to follow those rules.

Therefore, the only solution in my eyes is to have BOTH a lounge for stat posts/stat discussion, AND a lounge for general chat. Reinstate the old LUL minus the general chat and unlock the TOLTRTA thread.

Unfortunately, keeping them both open will result in one of them being locked. It just can't happen. I'm sorry, but since the LUL is the more important lounge, we will just have to keep it less spammy, and more on topic (with the occasional rank-up/achievement).

Hmm, no one can be certain what would happen with both lounges open, but I'll give this thread a chance. It didn't give me much hope to see achievements and congrats lists posted after your 'don't post achievements anymore' IMPORTANT NEWS post, though. I can see those rules being posted several times before everyone gets the point.

I realise my input is nowhere near as valued around here as that of RedCircle, Denvish, gfox, etc, but if you read all of this, I thank you. I'd appreciate any comments, or whatever.

You know your opinion counts with me, Mike. Even if you're on the other side of the tracks.

Thanks a lot Mike, for taking the time to read my post, and replying. Now, let's see if this place can be conversation friendly and non-spammy in the future :)

At 4/29/05 06:07 PM, YoinK_VineS wrote: 24 days til I finally reach level 24. OMG!

You're almost there Vince. Keep it up dude =)

I know Level 24 is a huge achievement, but YoinK should be waiting till he gets it, then posting. That has always been one of the unwritten rules around here. Don't encourage him RC :P

At 4/29/05 09:41 PM, -DaughterOfHades- wrote: Things that I'm undecided on:

Posting only a level up (i.e. "Just hit level 13" End of post.) Should that be acceptable?
Posting only a b/p rank-up (i.e. "Just got EGPFC" End of post.) Should that be acceptable?
Posting only a cool number (i.e. "Just got 2,000 blams" End of post.) Should that be acceptable?

I don't think we should worry about the way achievements are posted, but the achievements themselves. Since all of those examples are good achievements that take a lot of time to gain, they won't be seen that often, so a few short posts wouldn't hurt. The rest of your suggestions seem good to me. I've made an attempt to expand them though, and add some more detail to them:

OK, here's my suggested list of rules for the LUL, it's basically RC's list with more detail, and some additions, including Bonus'.

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Proposed LUL Rules

Achievements that would be acceptable to be posted in the LUL:
- Level Ups from LV 10 and upwards.
- Blam/Protect Rank Ups from Police Captain (1000 b/p) and upwards.
- Multiples of 1,000 in EXP, Reviews, Blams, Protects, Total B/P.
- Cool numbers in EXP, Reviews, Blams, Protects, Total B/P, e.g. 1,111, 1,337, 8,888 etc.
- NG Birthdays.
- Real Life Birthdays.
- Gold or Diety whistle.
- Multiples of 1000 in EXP or B/P rank for #'s that are above 1,000.
- Multiples of 100 in EXP or B/P rank for #'s that are between 100 and 1,000.
- Multiples of 10 in EXP or B/P rank for #'s that are less than 100.
- Voting Power numbers that are integers, i.e. 5.00.

Achievements that would NOT be acceptable to be posted in the LUL:
- Level Ups from LV 2 - 9.
- Blam/Protect Rank Ups from Security Guard to Police Officer.
- EXP, Reviews, Blams, Protects, Total B/P achievements that are not multiples of 1,000.
- Numbers for EXP, Reviews, Blams, Protects, Total B/P like 1,234, 4,321, 1,212, 17,777, 1,555 etc. They're nifty, but far too common >:(
- Bronze or Silver whistle.
- EXP or B/P rank numbers that aren't included in the 3 rules above.
- Voting Power numbers that aren't integers, i.e. 5.04.
- Any posts achievement. Really, post count is a shitty stat, and one that shouldn't be held up alongside B/P, EXP, etc.
- Any post that relates to a level up in the future. No one cares if you need 555 EXP points to reach the next level or if you have 20 days left till Level Up. WAIT TILL YOU REACH THAT LEVEL, and then post about it.

Congrats stuff that would be acceptable:
- Posting specific congrats, e.g. User - EG General
- posting congrats about anything in the
- congrats lists that aren't too out of date. If you've been gone for days, just congratulate the latest achievers.
- Posting a congrats list and putting 'and anyone else I missed' at the end.

Congrats stuff that wouldn't be acceptable:
- posting generic congrats, e.g. User - rank up
- copying the congrats lists of others
- generic 'congrats to everyone who achieved anything' posts

NOTE: If you get something like a Level Up and happen to have 1,200 blams at the same time, please just mention the Level Up. In other words, crappy achievements shouldn't be justified just because they happen at the same time as a good achievement.

===

Maybe I've gone into too much detail, especially on the Rank # rules, for these to be followed correctly. But then, isn't that what we need, a clear set of guidelines/rules? I dunno. Comments/Additions/Disagreements, please.

At 4/30/05 01:36 AM, Qwoxyl wrote: Happy NG birthday MW, buy yourself a beer (or something with alcohol in it) and drink up.

Thanks! I can't buy myself a beer, but I think its a worthy occasion to bring out whats left of last weekends stash. : )

At 4/30/05 05:42 AM, The_Redangleknight wrote: Myst_Williams happy first birthday.

3rd actually : ) thanks!

At 4/30/05 10:27 AM, BonusOfHades wrote:

At 4/30/05 05:42 AM, The_Redangleknight wrote: Myst_Williams happy first birthday.

3rd ;)

Merci, P.S. I like the name. ; )

At 4/30/05 10:50 AM, Eldarion wrote: Congrats to Myst_Williams for his 3rd NG birthday

Thanks.

(O_O wow, I thought you were a newish user)

To the BBS yes. I have been apart of Ng for ages, but was never really al lthat dedicated and would visit/deposit once a week when i was absolutely bored. I am still a newbie to the forums though.

Proposed LUL Rules

Achievements that would be acceptable to be posted in the LUL:
- Level Ups from LV 10 and upwards.

I think any level is a viable achievement, even the smaller once. Unless it is an alt, but for actualy newcomers, leveling up (even small) is an achievment on its own as they gradually become more and more dedicated.

- Blam/Protect Rank Ups from Police Captain (1000 b/p) and upwards.

I think that is fair.

- Multiples of 1,000 in EXP, Reviews, Blams, Protects, Total B/P.

Yes, i had the 500's... lets keep it to intervels of 1000.

- Cool numbers in EXP, Reviews, Blams, Protects, Total B/P, e.g. 1,111, 1,337, 8,888 etc.

lol! We can't ignore them, but hopefully people do not get out of hand with that.

- NG Birthdays.
- Real Life Birthdays.

I think that is a good idea.

- Gold or Diety whistle.

Well, I dunno, when i got Silver i was pretty pumped... i think it is a viable achievment.

- Multiples of 1000 in EXP or B/P rank for #'s that are above 1,000.
- Multiples of 100 in EXP or B/P rank for #'s that are between 100 and 1,000.
- Multiples of 10 in EXP or B/P rank for #'s that are less than 100.
- Voting Power numbers that are integers, i.e. 5.00.

I think those all seem fair.

Achievements that would NOT be acceptable to be posted in the LUL:
- Numbers for EXP, Reviews, Blams, Protects, Total B/P like 1,234, 4,321, 1,212, 17,777, 1,555 etc. They're nifty, but far too common >:(

thank god, get rid of those.

- Bronze or Silver whistle.

I am still iffy about that. Silver was big for me... Gold is nearly impossible.

- Any posts achievement. Really, post count is a shitty stat, and one that shouldn't be held up alongside B/P, EXP, etc.

ahh, damn, i look forward to those 1000, 2000, 3000 (and soon coming) 4000 post achievments, but it sounds fair to me. They are goals you do not want people striving for (spamming).

- Any post that relates to a level up in the future. No one cares if you need 555 EXP points to reach the next level or if you have 20 days left till Level Up. WAIT TILL YOU REACH THAT LEVEL, and then post about it.

Fair enough. I think that that got out of hand as well.

Congrats stuff that would be acceptable:
- Posting specific congrats, e.g. User - EG General
- posting congrats about anything in the
- congrats lists that aren't too out of date. If you've been gone for days, just congratulate the latest achievers.

Ahh, see i like that. Ialways felt bad for missing people and would go al lthe way back. Now i have an excuse not to. : )

- Posting a congrats list and putting 'and anyone else I missed' at the end.

lol! Damn. : ) But sometimes you miss people by accident.

NOTE: If you get something like a Level Up and happen to have 1,200 blams at the same time, please just mention the Level Up. In other words, crappy achievements shouldn't be justified just because they happen at the same time as a good achievement.

I agree with that also.

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Maybe I've gone into too much detail, especially on the Rank # rules, for these to be followed correctly. But then, isn't that what we need, a clear set of guidelines/rules? I dunno. Comments/Additions/Disagreements, please.

I think it is pretty good except a few things like level and whistle. If it is an alt account then it should not be expressed as an achievment, that user has had the glory on another account already, but for actual newcomers they are actual achievments that feel pretty good and lead them up to the bigger achievments. If tehy can't feel good about small achievments, they may never strive for the big ones.

My opinion.

Finally achieved Top 1000 in both experience and blams/protects. Started off at like, sub 2000 a month ago. :/