At 8/31/04 01:02 AM, ShittyKitty wrote:
Hmm...yeah, I think I'll just stick with the b/p and experience lists.

Good plan lol

At 8/31/04 01:02 AM, ShittyKitty wrote:
Oh, and I'm adding another level of distinction: 5+ b/p's per hour (equals 120 b/p's a day). I noticed that I had a couple of those when I was doing some test runs today (you were 5 too, d0gma), so I'm making those users a nice pretty blue color. It really sticks out, which is what I'm aiming for.

I'm playing catch-up. I was ~80 off pace on Saturday so I've been jamming to (try to) make up for it. IamNone is the other "blue" I think. MPA, RoweNuts, Syme, and Ya_Ya are all pushing pretty hard as well ... near, at, or over 100/day.

At 8/31/04 01:15 AM, D0GMA wrote:

At 8/31/04 01:02 AM, ShittyKitty wrote:
Oh, and I'm adding another level of distinction: 5+ b/p's per hour (equals 120 b/p's a day). I noticed that I had a couple of those when I was doing some test runs today (you were 5 too, d0gma), so I'm making those users a nice pretty blue color. It really sticks out, which is what I'm aiming for.

I'm playing catch-up. I was ~80 off pace on Saturday so I've been jamming to (try to) make up for it. IamNone is the other "blue" I think. MPA, RoweNuts, Syme, and Ya_Ya are all pushing pretty hard as well ... near, at, or over 100/day.

Oops, looks like I'll be copying you again. I've tweaked my program so that it spits out an "alternate sort" version of the blam/post list, sorted by b/p's per hour. Yours is still better, though: mine won't have rank changes, at least not yet. I'm too lazy to code that part.

Oh, and did you notice the new NGLister? I've redone the grabber codes, so they're more reliable. And I added a feature or two. But I haven't gotten a reg email from you yet...? Still hanging on to 1.3?

At 8/31/04 01:20 AM, ShittyKitty wrote: Oh, and did you notice the new NGLister? I've redone the grabber codes, so they're more reliable. And I added a feature or two. But I haven't gotten a reg email from you yet...? Still hanging on to 1.3?

I've been splitting time between voting, adding the new finds to the spreadsheet, and working on a top secret project. Not a heck of a lot of spare time to do anything else ... I haven't even run the 1.3 DM I have since I pulled stats on the new finds yesterday morning so I could stuff them into the sheet lol

I've settled on an update schedule: Blam/post updates every Wednesday and weekend (Sat or Sun), and experience updates every weekend. With the sheer number of people, including lower-ranked people, on this list, a lot of ranks can change in 3 or 4 days. I've been running the list over and over (testing some new changes), and there's already a lot of changes. So, be prepared for a full blam/post update tomorrow afternoon!

At 8/31/04 10:27 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: I've settled on an update schedule: Blam/post updates every Wednesday and weekend (Sat or Sun)

Heh, Ive gone up 3 ranks... but the dude ranked ahead of me is 63 ahead of me, and apears to be pretty active =O
I'll be ready for for the update =D

At 8/31/04 10:40 PM, j00bie wrote:

At 8/31/04 10:27 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: I've settled on an update schedule: Blam/post updates every Wednesday and weekend (Sat or Sun)

Heh, Ive gone up 3 ranks... but the dude ranked ahead of me is 63 ahead of me, and apears to be pretty active =O
I'll be ready for for the update =D

I've been itching to post an update. I was almost tempted to make it a daily thing, but that might be a little too much. I've gone up about 50 ranks since the weekend, so I'm pretty ready, too.

Err...I've been posting too much in the Wi/Ht? Lounge, and it locked me out for half an hour....so I'm posting my rebuttal here!!!

At 8/31/04 11:11 PM, j00bie wrote:

At 8/31/04 11:09 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: blawblawblaw I wasnt here, OH NOES!!!

THEN EXPLAIN THIS!!!
Sign-up Date:
02/06/2002
DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN

I said I wasn't active in the BBS at that time. Look at my first BBS post in 2004. Granted, I made a few posts in December, but those were n00bish and in a different forum. The point is, my first post in this forum was in the Wi/Ht? Lounge on 8/19/04:

At 8/19/04 11:15 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: Just got my 2500th blam/save! Elite Guard Corporal! Plus I'm only 174 away from level 11! Cool stuff...

Booyah!

At 8/31/04 10:41 PM, TheNoobinator wrote: I've been itching to post an update. I was almost tempted to make it a daily thing, but that might be a little too much. I've gone up about 50 ranks since the weekend, so I'm pretty ready, too.

most people (well... pretty much all) who make the lists do them by personal gain... ie: Reach a personal milestone before posting the update (gfox, d0gma, jon, etc.).

At 9/1/04 12:00 AM, j00bie wrote: most people (well... pretty much all) who make the lists do them by personal gain... ie: Reach a personal milestone before posting the update (gfox, d0gma, jon, etc.).

It's not so much a personal thing for me, though. I'm just an attention whore ;-)

Well I like to input two things here.

Everytime anyone runs the nglister program they do put a load on the Ng servers. Try to aviod running at busy times.

I still have plans posting an update to my exp list later today. SInce I include some stats you don't I don't see a conflict.
I preaty much post my lsit on the first of each month, mostly cause it takes a while for people to move around in Exp, plus before I had your program it took time to do the update. Ireally going to put your program to a major test later today.

At 9/1/04 12:31 AM, ramagi wrote: Well I like to input two things here.

Everytime anyone runs the nglister program they do put a load on the Ng servers. Try to aviod running at busy times.

Well, I'll be doing mid-week updates in the middle of the afternoon, so it should be pretty slow. As for weekend updates, I can go for Saturday night / Sunday morning. I think that in terms of stressing the servers, the normal lists that have been converted to NGLister shouldn't be too bad; they're relatively small, and they were being run anyway. As for me, yeah, I'll try to keep it in low-traffic time frames.

I still have plans posting an update to my exp list later today. SInce I include some stats you don't I don't see a conflict.

I'm just doing a blam/protect update tomorrow, so it shouldn't be a problem. The only thing I can foresee is conflicting with d0gma's list.....:-(

I preaty much post my lsit on the first of each month, mostly cause it takes a while for people to move around in Exp, plus before I had your program it took time to do the update. Ireally going to put your program to a major test later today.

Cool. Have fun with it!

At 9/1/04 12:31 AM, ramagi wrote:
Everytime anyone runs the nglister program they do put a load on the Ng servers. Try to aviod running at busy times.

See the comments in the Data Miner thread. That concern has been more than adequately addressed. I probably came up with more way for it to go wrong that it possibly could, but that was just me trying to be thorough. If you have something else that might be a problem, tack it onto the list.

Ireally going to put your program to a major test later today.

Looking forward to it. You're the last of the listers to put it through its paces, so it will definitely be of interest if it creates any difficulties for you. The only "issues" I've noted so far are the known blanks ... I know one (now three) on my list and I recall there being two vagrants on yours ... but they should be fairly easy to work around. Good luck =)

New update!

I've posted a new update for the NG Total Listing Blam/Protect list. I can only get the first mirror updated right now; you can find that at http://ngtlbp.idohost.com/bls-090104.html for the Blam/Protect list and http://ngtlbp.idohost.com/bsb-090104.html for the Alternate Sort.

Nice update Shitty!

I am so pissed that even though I spent a lot of time on NG for the last few days (a shitload in fact), I really didn't get the bp/hour I was expecting :(

I have to say that the blue color is a bit hard to read. I don't know if you want to do this, but if you made the scale with red being the highest bp/day, and cycled through the colors from there, it might make better readibility...just a thought.

Oh, and thanks for updating RIGHT before my rank-up...haha...

Seriously, nice job!

At 9/1/04 03:12 PM, RedCircle wrote: I have to say that the blue color is a bit hard to read. I don't know if you want to do this, but if you made the scale with red being the highest bp/day, and cycled through the colors from there, it might make better readibility...just a thought.

Hmm...is the blue that bad? Maybe I'll tone it down a bit. I'd like to keep it, though: I want that 5+ to stand out from the rest, because it's really hard to do (people only get that every now and then).

Oh, and thanks for updating RIGHT before my rank-up...haha...

:-p Don't worry, I'll update again this weekend.

Seriously, nice job!

Thanks!

I meant to post these stats when I posted the update, but I had to run off to class before I got the chance. So, here they are, blam/protect rank counts:

Elite Guard Supreme Commander = 9
Elite Guard General = 5
Elite Guard Lieutenant General = 1
Elite Guard Major General = 4
Elite Guard Brigadier General = 5
Elite Guard Colonel = 8
Elite Guard Lieutenant Colonel = 10
Elite Guard Major = 3
Elite Guard Captain = 16
Elite Guard First Lieutenant = 15
Elite Guard Second Lieutenant = 23
Elite Guard Praporschik = 32
Elite Guard Sergeant Major = 26
Elite Guard Master Sergeant = 24
Elite Guard Sergeant First Class = 45
Elite Guard Staff Sergeant = 75
Elite Guard Sergeant = 129
Elite Guard Corporal = 101
Elite Guard Private First Class = 191
Elite Guard Private = 298
Police Captain = 665
Police Lieutenant = 2093
Police Sergeant = 1077
Police Officer = 1550
Security Guard = 2587
Safety Patrol = 5127

And here's the rankups since August 29. Congratulations to all you people!

Elite Guard Brigadier General
Syme

Elite Guard Captain
bryanbjt223
good_guy_o
IAmNone

Elite Guard Second Lieutenant
gd07
sneepioo

Elite Guard Sergeant First Class
BackToNormal

Elite Guard Staff Sergeant
Chefcoop
EKRegulus
Yemen

Elite Guard Sergeant
AGH
Modjo
The_Mindless

Elite Guard Corporal
stylusOsubstance
Ya_Ya

Elite Guard Private First Class
AstralProjection
BareNakedMike
BeaverKing
coolcricket
--delteated--
Gooch_20-04
hey_kramer
-NEMESIS-
nocturnized
phileeguy
whitewolf360

Elite Guard Private
_MessiaH_
AC500BELOW
Azurewrathhal
Elite_Gaurd_Marr
fbipolux
Hiyasu
milsaw
the_puppet
Wild_Karde

Police Captain
---89---
Aapo_Joki
archibaldpossy
Blessing
cheshirepus
Cypher_
DAmainman
Dark_Eternal
deathdoc
doubleedd7
Great_Teacher_Temp
Hamy_jamy
Jane_Doe
jinklin
Mp3Durahell
Pox530
Silent1Hunter
teh-Skillet
wysekid
-Yoshi-
ZeroTheGreat

Police Lieutenant
20matar
AlredyTryed
Arse-Sprite
blackirish1
Bobbaganoosh
BobTheGreatOne
-Cobalt-
Coccoo
darktekz
Dasproduct
DemiousRising
deucethedon
F-13
FetusNazi
fishmeanslove
George_007
Gobo718
Helton8
Iamaru
infernal_psycho
Jr4
KrazyKatz
Lemonhead
majikphat
manhuntkl
MethoD_X
Mister_b
Mitcheybrown
ninjai
ohmigosh
Revengejr
Ronin_Jin
Swirling_Venom
Teriyaki
TheOneBurgees
TranceAddiction
WireFrame

Police Sergeant
Aeida
Ariscis
BlackHwk4
Blaklyon
Blue_Kitsune
C_and_S
CFFAGUY
cheetozrgood2002
ChemicalCopout
Corky52
dragonslayer68
Famicommie
Gingero
Hedgeh0g
IeatPUSSY
Jammerz
JanWillem
Jarter
Ken_Korrupt
La_Morsa
-Lain-
LashRouxed
liquidheart
Molche
Mrfoot
Myst_Williams
nana4k
P-0
Patty_Wee
segabob
sensi_budz
Seta_Soujiro
ShadowSkater
ShyDragy
Soapbubble
sweetiepoi
TBF
Tenkei
The_Weaponmaster
TheLeoness
ThunderRay
XXXMATTXXX
Yokaze
Zere
ZeroCless

Police Officer
akanightmare0331
AnacondaHL
Barber
BendersBanjo
BetrayaL
BlackDevilX
CaribuDude
Ceciliantas
Chrysaor
coaxialhampster
Coco_Dog
Colt_Playah
Crash_Weasel
CyAnShaDoW
DaArtist
dancingdudesean
Dangerous_D
deadly_whisperer
different
Dragonfae666
Dunemaster_62
Fired
Flansburgh
fuzzman54
Gax
GodOfTitans
goyter
greenscales
hatal
hawk456
hongkongexpress
HySahBrid
i_sprocket_i
Insanity_Power
Jamieamaro
Juggalo124
Kamikazay
Leafs4Life
Linxxx
Loveyounow
M1K4L
Machismo
Masna
mastaofpuppets56
MasTur89
megasniper1989
mostlyharmless2k
Netminder
NGskater
Overkilled
P_M_O_T_O
packersman
peha
PunkDude1002
Sickrapp3
Slowface
sofox
Stumpy_Jay
swgb_king
The_Many_Faces_Of_Me
thecooljudge
TheRedComet
thezinn46
Titgut
Ubbe87
uselesschris
valerielundberg
vashtsakared
-X-CaLiBuR-
xdarkbomberx
xxspike321xx
zeldamaster1

Security Guard
3zz
69er
AdmiralConquistador
AdvanceKing
AliKrueger
andrew_w_p
AndyClock
argos_rock_11
BaronPwent
Benjamin_2007
bicmac241
Bigyun
CAL_GORE
Cassidythapimp
CI-Lain
DarkCreature
darklotus66
daywalker_dominik
DeezMFK
Demonfluf
-Diddy-
Dobster
Eternal_XIII
Evolution682
Farmageddon
Feldar
firewalker911
flingkatu
FoamyCardCult
FreinzDUDE
Grimbaldous
Halfloaded
HottDamn
Jailbrk74
JerryRolex
joe_bill_black
JungleMan
KAC-CANADIAN
Kilrothi
King-FooQua
Lacker
Legendofjon
Lord_Thunderhawk
lordaero
lordlegogo
LudeGuy
Maniac_nl
Memnarch
Mr_Wax_Man
MrCokeCan
mystikwarfox
neochemist1
neopyro666
opdude
Perfidia
Popmart
R_ED_M_AGE
race-machine
Ress_Cor
riffalike
satan6661366613
ScuderiaFerrari
sinn_of_7
smksmk
Stealth_Fox
Stormewolfe
Swan187
Thark
The_Cobra16
The_Dalai_Lama
The_SuPa_Pimp
thepostalman
thunderbolt0645
ThunderFlash
Valerius_Blackthorne
whispereve
Xg0killy0urselfX
Yagimonster
yeehawbro
Zach100
zGwpn

j00bie 205 +16 5342

RAWR!!!
I didnt realise I gained 342 points so fast, it feels like only a few days ago I ranked up...
It says Im only gaining 2 BP's = 48 a day =O

At 9/1/04 05:40 PM, j00bie wrote: j00bie 205 +16 5342

Oh yeah, by the way...
glad to see its +16 as opposed to being - before hand.
Definately less confusing, and a small, but major improvement to the list!

At 9/1/04 05:40 PM, j00bie wrote: j00bie 205 +16 5342

RAWR!!!
I didnt realise I gained 342 points so fast, it feels like only a few days ago I ranked up...
It says Im only gaining 2 BP's = 48 a day =O

Actually, you got 2.8 BP's/hr. That .8 makes it 67 a day. That's why I have three decimal values on the BP/hr column; it doesn't take much to make a difference.

At 9/1/04 05:41 PM, j00bie wrote: Oh yeah, by the way...
glad to see its +16 as opposed to being - before hand.
Definately less confusing, and a small, but major improvement to the list!

Yup, the plus/minus signs make it nice.

Oh, and another thing. I'm going to see if my programming language has built-in support for FTP. If so, it might be possible for me to automate the entire process. I could schedule the program to run at certain times for certain lists, have it automatically FTP the results to the web servers, and post the update notice in the forum. Crazy stuff, huh?

At 9/1/04 03:41 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: I meant to post these stats when I posted the update, but I had to run off to class before I got the chance. So, here they are, blam/protect rank counts:

Elite Guard Supreme Commander = 9
Elite Guard General = 5
Elite Guard Lieutenant General = 1
Elite Guard Major General = 4
Elite Guard Brigadier General = 5
Elite Guard Colonel = 8
Elite Guard Lieutenant Colonel = 10
Elite Guard Major = 3
Elite Guard Captain = 16
Elite Guard First Lieutenant = 15
Elite Guard Second Lieutenant = 23
Elite Guard Praporschik = 32
Elite Guard Sergeant Major = 26
Elite Guard Master Sergeant = 24
Elite Guard Sergeant First Class = 45
Elite Guard Staff Sergeant = 75
Elite Guard Sergeant = 129
Elite Guard Corporal = 101
Elite Guard Private First Class = 191
Elite Guard Private = 298
Police Captain = 665
Police Lieutenant = 2093
Police Sergeant = 1077
Police Officer = 1550
Security Guard = 2587
Safety Patrol = 5127

Heh. I love stats like those. I used to keep a similar listing based on about 1000 profile links I kept as shortcuts and every couple of months would pull and estimate how many people were above any number of b/p counts (be it 5 b/p or 500 b/p or whatnot)...

I just wanted to mention that the way I did it, to me, is a pretty nice way to put those same numbers you got up there. Let me illustrate:

as of 20040901:

14119 people have more than 100 blam/protect points.
8992 people have more than 200 blam/protect points.
6405 people have more than 300 blam/protect points.
4855 people have more than 400 blam/protect points.
3778 people have more than 500 blam/protect points.
1685 people have more than 1000 blam/protect points.
1020 people have more than 1500 blam/protect points.
722 people have more than 2000 blam/protect points.
531 people have more than 2500 blam/protect points.
430 people have more than 3000 blam/protect points.
301 people have more than 4000 blam/protect points.
226 people have more than 5000 blam/protect points.
181 people have more than 6000 blam/protect points.
157 people have more than 7000 blam/protect points.
131 people have more than 8000 blam/protect points.
99 people have more than 9500 blam/protect points.
76 people have more than 11000 blam/protect points.
61 people have more than 12500 blam/protect points.
45 people have more than 14000 blam/protect points.
42 people have more than 15500 blam/protect points.
32 people have more than 17500 blam/protect points.
24 people have more than 19500 blam/protect points.
19 people have more than 21500 blam/protect points.
15 people have more than 23500 blam/protect points.
14 people have more than 25500 blam/protect points.
9 people have more than 30000 blam/protect points.

IOW, people AT or ABOVE each rank, not just AT. The reason I value that way of looking at it is that you can tell just by looking at it what range of rankings each b/p rank currently covers. Still, both ways of doing it are valuable and informative.

At 9/1/04 03:43 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: And here's the rankups since August 29. Congratulations to all you people!

Elite Guard Brigadier General
Syme

Elite Guard Captain
bryanbjt223
good_guy_o
IAmNone

Elite Guard Second Lieutenant

...

I do have one criticism, though. I think all the stuff you're doing on your sites is great, and most of the stuff you've been posting is groovy. But do you really think posting all of those rankups from just a 3 day period is a bit much? I mean, assume the same length of rankups happens EVERY 3 days... are you really going to post that long of a list in this site TWICE a week? O_o

I know Dogma posts a similar thing, but it's only for the EG, and it's not so often. But anywho... whatevers. No big deal, just commentating. #;-}>

Please to check your e-mail, sirrah, I've just asked you something there!

At 9/2/04 12:32 AM, gfoxcook wrote: I do have one criticism, though. I think all the stuff you're doing on your sites is great, and most of the stuff you've been posting is groovy. But do you really think posting all of those rankups from just a 3 day period is a bit much? I mean, assume the same length of rankups happens EVERY 3 days... are you really going to post that long of a list in this site TWICE a week? O_o

I know Dogma posts a similar thing, but it's only for the EG, and it's not so often. But anywho... whatevers. No big deal, just commentating. #;-}>

I'm just trying out new stuff, seeing what works and what doesn't. You do have a point, though: there are a LOT of rank-ups in the sub-EG ranks. Maybe I'll just keep the counts and rank-ups on their normal pages. You see, these lists are actually on the websites, too. I just copied them here.

Please to check your e-mail, sirrah, I've just asked you something there!

Alright, let's see what you sent me.

Oh, what do you think about a new column for estimated days until next rank-up? Good idea?

At 9/2/04 12:59 AM, ShittyKitty wrote: I'm just trying out new stuff, seeing what works and what doesn't. You do have a point, though: there are a LOT of rank-ups in the sub-EG ranks. Maybe I'll just keep the counts and rank-ups on their normal pages. You see, these lists are actually on the websites, too. I just copied them here.

Ah, didn't see it over there. I've mostly been looking at the exp ranking on your site, for one thing, haven't checked the b/p listings for several days.

Anyway, yeah, I'd vote for that option. No need to post them here if they're already on the website, it's just such an insane amount of info to be posted so often, since your list dips so much lower than Dogma's. And I wouldn't recommend to just post the rankups above Praporshchik or something, since Dogma already does that, so... eh, too much overlap with all these congrats on level up postings to make a long story short.

Please to check your e-mail, sirrah, I've just asked you something there!

Alright, let's see what you sent me.

Oh, what do you think about a new column for estimated days until next rank-up? Good idea?

Based on that b/p per hour stat you have going? Well, you COULD do that, but I don't really think it would be very accurate. Someone could have just been getting points for two days, and then they go on a 2 week vacation. It would have to be based on b/p per WEEK, not per hour, if you're gonna put that in. Seems like a fun stat, though. No application to us EGSCs, so I confess to a lack of personal interest. #;-}>

At 9/2/04 11:37 PM, gfoxcook wrote: Ah, didn't see it over there. I've mostly been looking at the exp ranking on your site, for one thing, haven't checked the b/p listings for several days.

Looking at the exp ranking? That's old stuff! The b/p listing has all of the new formatting stuff that I've been working on. Don't worry, though: Sunday's update will be for both lists, so they'll both be pretty! :-D

Anyway, yeah, I'd vote for that option. No need to post them here if they're already on the website, it's just such an insane amount of info to be posted so often, since your list dips so much lower than Dogma's. And I wouldn't recommend to just post the rankups above Praporshchik or something, since Dogma already does that, so... eh, too much overlap with all these congrats on level up postings to make a long story short.

Yup, yup, the overlap dilemma again. Nah, if I ever get the automated automated list maker (yes, it's an automated program that's being automated) to work, then I'll make it just post a little message about updates, so people know to take a look.

Based on that b/p per hour stat you have going? Well, you COULD do that, but I don't really think it would be very accurate. Someone could have just been getting points for two days, and then they go on a 2 week vacation. It would have to be based on b/p per WEEK, not per hour, if you're gonna put that in. Seems like a fun stat, though. No application to us EGSCs, so I confess to a lack of personal interest. #;-}>

Aw, but don't you want the list to tell you that you've got 24534 days until your next rank-up? ;-P Well, I suppose I could make it a per-week stat, if I ever feel like tweaking the code again. I've got backups of the data from every single update I've posted, so it's a possibility. Maybe next week...

At 9/3/04 12:05 AM, Kam-Ron wrote: If you are when are you going to add new stats? Maybe posts or something.

Posts are not going to happen. Dobio will end that faster than j00bie can deposit.

Yea I'll be keeping an eye on your future updates see how things come out :)

At 9/3/04 12:05 AM, Kam-Ron wrote: If you are when are you going to add new stats? Maybe posts or something.

If I do add stats, it won't be until October 1.

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At 9/3/04 12:29 AM, ShittyKitty wrote: The URL to the FAQ is http://www.jfsoftware.com/ng.html#faq. I've also added a link in my signature.

Beautiful FAQ, I must say :D

At 9/3/04 12:53 AM, RedCircle wrote:

At 9/3/04 12:29 AM, ShittyKitty wrote: The URL to the FAQ is http://www.jfsoftware.com/ng.html#faq. I've also added a link in my signature.

Beautiful FAQ, I must say :D

Your sarcasm rubs me the wrong way ;-P Well, at least it's straight to the point, huh?