At 8/29/04 02:43 AM, Seizure_Dog wrote: Thats pretty sweet. Do you think you could make a program for the other stats?

Like what other stats, like reviews and posts on the BBS. That would take ages to do. Its good as it is i rekon. But if he's got the time, i think he can do it.

At 8/29/04 02:47 AM, Seizure_Dog wrote: Also, just checked the list and found that I was right above livecorpse. how...interesting.

R.I.P. LC

WOW, that is very freaky and weird. I remember him, what a legend, loved all his movies. What rank was he? L.C., one of the greats on NG

At 8/29/04 02:53 AM, -Josh- wrote: WOW, that is very freaky and weird. I remember him, what a legend, loved all his movies. What rank was he? L.C., one of the greats on NG

What is even weirder is that piconjo (the sucky one) keeps using his name on portal entries. They added each other as portal buddies back in the day and now that LC is no more, they can still co-author submissions. So you will see him be the author of a movie from time to time...so sad...and disrespectful, might I add.

I noticed this when I reviewed like an hour ago. Now the submission is in the Obituaries. Had the title of piCoNJoLUvsjO0<3 or something like that...

At 8/29/04 03:17 AM, RedCircle wrote:
What is even weirder is that piconjo (the sucky one) keeps using his name on portal entries. They added each other as portal buddies back in the day and now that LC is no more, they can still co-author submissions. So you will see him be the author of a movie from time to time...so sad...and disrespectful, might I add.

I noticed this when I reviewed like an hour ago. Now the submission is in the Obituaries. Had the title of piCoNJoLUvsjO0<3 or something like that...

Thats selfish. Really disrespectful, now thats giving L.C. a bad name, Why is piconjo doing this, WHy, Why, Why? And then hes saying oh, L.C. said to me to vote 5 on this, L.C. is legendary. SO piconjo, stop it.

At 8/28/04 10:13 AM, RedCircle wrote:
Eh..I probably will stop too...because there isn't any incentive to do so. I mean, you got the rank, you have your 60% added, so you have done your time. You can continue if you wish (gfox, d0gma), but it's not super necessary (crono, fixit, ramagi), unless you just WANT to be first and have superextrabonuspoints!!!

Don't forget Bila and Recon :) I think mostly the motivation is to gain (or keep) rank in the top 50s. Really, there's no other point. My real goal is to get more than 2 IDs in the NG top 50 ^^

At 8/28/04 09:07 AM, ShittyKitty wrote:
Fixed it! I'm planning on running blam/protect list updates every weekend, and experience list updates every two weeks (takes longer to grab exp stats for 96k people). The future updates will actually have rank changes and stat changes.

Heh ... putting ramagi and I out of business ;) Looks good, and it's got to be great for the PCs and PLs working their way up, since I stopped listing them.

At 8/28/04 07:59 PM, ShittyKitty wrote:
But, he might be tempted to change your name or something.

Been there, done that.

3) Yes, I have given data to "that douche". He's also been following and supporting the development of my NGLister data grabber program from the very beginning, so of course I'm sharing with him.

Amen to that ... this thing is a godsend.

At 8/28/04 11:49 PM, RedCircle wrote:
I have been meaning to ask Chris about it, but it's one of those "Pat" things...you can never tell...well I hope Chris doesn't look like Pat...would be a shame no matter which sex Chris was.

Let's not start that whole thing up again ;)

At 8/29/04 02:28 AM, -Josh- wrote: Ooops. Sorry d0gma, but i said he because i dont know, and d0gma, are you female or male, coz on your pro u got unspecified. But sorry if you take it the wrong way.

It doesn't matter to me. I'm unspecified for a number of reasons, but primarily so that my comments in threads are not pre-judged. If a user asks for advice on something and a male responds, certain assumption are made about the replier, and the same if it is a female replying. Throw the gender ofthe person asking into the mix and you've got all sorts of presumptions that get in the way of them taking any input I give at face value.

At 8/29/04 03:17 AM, RedCircle wrote:
I noticed this when I reviewed like an hour ago. Now the submission is in the Obituaries. Had the title of piCoNJoLUvsjO0<3 or something like that...

There have been several of that ilk. Free blam points ;)

4,879th for experience according to ShittyKitty.
4,821st for experience according to profile.

Hmmm...

At 8/29/04 10:56 AM, TheRotArm wrote: 4,879th for experience according to ShittyKitty.
4,821st for experience according to profile.

Hmmm...

Hmm nothing. No one who runs a list has EVER claimed to be connected to the NG DB and keep up to date with it.

At 8/28/04 09:07 AM, ShittyKitty wrote: I'm planning on running blam/protect list updates every weekend, and experience list updates every two weeks (takes longer to grab exp stats for 96k people).

Hehe ... added you to the link page needleneedleneedle ^^

At 8/28/04 11:49 PM, RedCircle wrote:

At 8/28/04 07:59 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: 3) Yes, I have given data to "that douche". He's also been following and supporting the development of my NGLister data grabber program from the very beginning, so of course I'm sharing with him.

Tis true.

Also, Josh, are you sure d0gma is a "he"...

You should check out Syme's posts and decide for yourself.

Doh. Guess I just assumed. Well, you know what happens when you make an assumption ;-)

I have been meaning to ask Chris about it, but it's one of those "Pat" things...you can never tell...well I hope Chris doesn't look like Pat...would be a shame no matter which sex Chris was.

LOL! Pat! Yes!

At 8/29/04 02:43 AM, Seizure_Dog wrote: Thats pretty sweet. Do you think you could make a program for the other stats?

I'd have to look into it. I won't re-build my profile list until October, though, so it would be a little while.

At 8/29/04 02:47 AM, Seizure_Dog wrote: Also, just checked the list and found that I was right above livecorpse. how...interesting.

R.I.P. LC

Indeed. Peace be with him.

At 8/29/04 02:49 AM, -Josh- wrote: Like what other stats, like reviews and posts on the BBS. That would take ages to do. Its good as it is i rekon. But if he's got the time, i think he can do it.

I could do any stats at all, really. I just did blam/save and experience to get the software working. However, it takes me 30 hours to run through 1,000,000 profiles looking for profiles for the lists, so I only do that monthly. Any "new lists" will have to wait until October.

At 8/29/04 03:17 AM, RedCircle wrote:

At 8/29/04 02:53 AM, -Josh- wrote: WOW, that is very freaky and weird. I remember him, what a legend, loved all his movies. What rank was he? L.C., one of the greats on NG

What is even weirder is that piconjo (the sucky one) keeps using his name on portal entries. They added each other as portal buddies back in the day and now that LC is no more, they can still co-author submissions. So you will see him be the author of a movie from time to time...so sad...and disrespectful, might I add.

I noticed this when I reviewed like an hour ago. Now the submission is in the Obituaries. Had the title of piCoNJoLUvsjO0<3 or something like that...

I hate that piconjo S.O.B....him and all his cronies/alter egos.

At 8/29/04 11:15 AM, D0GMA wrote:

At 8/29/04 10:56 AM, TheRotArm wrote: 4,879th for experience according to ShittyKitty.
4,821st for experience according to profile.

Hmmm...

Hmm nothing. No one who runs a list has EVER claimed to be connected to the NG DB and keep up to date with it.

I've noticed the same thing, right after I ran the list. Newgrounds lists ties as being the lowest rank in that tie, whereas I sort by profile number (sign-up date). Example:

User A has 2342.
User B has 354.
User C has 2342.
User D has 4567.

Newgrounds ranks them as such:

1st: B
3rd: A and C
4th: D

I rank them like this:

1st: B
2nd: A
3rd: C
4th: D

I prefer sorting by profile number. Gives the oldies a little advantage over the newbies ;-)

At 8/29/04 11:39 AM, D0GMA wrote: Hehe ... added you to the link page

Thanks!

needleneedleneedle ^^

:-P

I've been working on an upgrade to my list making program to show changes in rank and stats. I'm doing a test run on the blam/saves right now, and if it works, I'll go ahead and post it. Changes include:

* Rank change, stat change, blam/save change per hour (I won't be able to run this reliably, so per hour seems more accurate)
* Moved the links into a separate per-list "main page"
* Fixed page titles (pages after 1-1000 had "NG Complete Listing")

At 8/29/04 03:01 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: I've been working on an upgrade to my list making program to show changes in rank and stats. I'm doing a test run on the blam/saves right now, and if it works, I'll go ahead and post it. Changes include:

* Rank change, stat change, blam/save change per hour (I won't be able to run this reliably, so per hour seems more accurate)
* Moved the links into a separate per-list "main page"
* Fixed page titles (pages after 1-1000 had "NG Complete Listing")

I've finished a mini-update of the blam/protect list. This is to test/demonstrate the new features of the list. Remember, it's only been one day (35 hours to be precise), so there's a LOT of "unchanged" profiles on there.

At 8/29/04 07:00 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: I've finished a mini-update of the blam/protect list. This is to test/demonstrate the new features of the list. Remember, it's only been one day (35 hours to be precise), so there's a LOT of "unchanged" profiles on there.

I updated the update. :-D Now there's a full listing page. It's 650KB (the experience list will be ~4MB). It's got every profile ID listed, with links to the listing page containing that profile. Sorry guys, but this is the only way I could do this; I got tired of fighting with JavaScript and VBScript. Anyway, even if I did script a search function, it would have an array built into it that somebody could just pull profile ID's from. So, no matter what I do, it's easy for someone to pull a 19,000-profile list, which means it's a good thing I locked NGLister ;-D

At 8/30/04 12:25 AM, ShittyKitty wrote:
I updated the update. :-D Now there's a full listing page. It's 650KB (the experience list will be ~4MB). It's got every profile ID listed, with links to the listing page containing that profile. Sorry guys, but this is the only way I could do this; I got tired of fighting with JavaScript and VBScript. Anyway, even if I did script a search function, it would have an array built into it that somebody could just pull profile ID's from. So, no matter what I do, it's easy for someone to pull a 19,000-profile list, which means it's a good thing I locked NGLister ;-D

Yeah, who cares about the search feature anyways. Because if you know youve got around 3,000 b/p, youd be in the top 1000 and etc. My rank is going up in b/p, yesterday i got around 40 b/p:)

At 8/30/04 12:25 AM, ShittyKitty wrote:

At 8/29/04 07:00 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: I've finished a mini-update of the blam/protect list. This is to test/demonstrate the new features of the list. Remember, it's only been one day (35 hours to be precise), so there's a LOT of "unchanged" profiles on there.

I updated the update. :-D Now there's a full listing page. It's 650KB (the experience list will be ~4MB). It's got every profile ID listed, with links to the listing page containing that profile. Sorry guys, but this is the only way I could do this ...

If people have access to the profile, they have the ability to create a PID list from them; IOW everyone can. The registration requirement puts a damper on the situations that concern me. As gfox mentioned in the DM thread, chances are really good that, without access to a pregenerated PID list, my fears would never be an issue, but better safe than sorry. Realistically, if you supplied the 96k Lvl2+ IDs in an input file along with an open access program, a lot of people would simply have run it in its entirety just to see what happened. Providing it requires effort to generate and maintain a list, propogation shouldn't be an issue. It's kind of amusing that I have to Page Down 48 times to get to the first profile link I haven't used ...

The worst way to look at all time you've put in to create the fixes to prevent problems wasn't necessary, as no one was ever going to abuse it, but that James is aware of the fact that you've been proactive in ensuring your product does not mess with his.

Nice work with the update. I was going to whine that there wasn't a colour key ... until I noticed that you've got the tables breaking every 50 entries and stuffed it in there ;) The light grey makes the inactives extremely easy to pass over, so good choces on the colour shceme ... except for that big, bright whitespace in the background lol

I like the preface comments lol Asking for removal is extremely rare (I'm up to three times in 14 months) but that was an amusing way you put it lol

Due to the rank-numbering schematic being used, presumably this is the case with your XP list as well, you might want to tweak your comments with respect to the vagrants. The vagrants are given NG ranks, but your list simply skips them and numbers everyone else as if they did not exist. Rather than adjusting the program and system you've developed, it's easier to simply change the comments.

For the purposes of this list, vagrants do not exist. As such, you may notice some discrepancies between the rank listed here and your NG rank on the date of the update. The further down a listing you are, the greater number of vagrants above you, and the greater the difference you will see. Twiddle with something like that and see what works for you.

It's unfortunate you don't have the webspace for old updates =(

At 8/30/04 05:26 AM, -Josh- wrote: My rank is going up in b/p, yesterday i got around 40 b/p:)

140 and I moved zero ranks :-P~~~

At 8/30/04 09:50 AM, D0GMA wrote: The worst way to look at all time you've put in to create the fixes to prevent problems wasn't necessary, as no one was ever going to abuse it, but that James is aware of the fact that you've been proactive in ensuring your product does not mess with his.

Yup, just trying to maintain the peace. Prevent any problems before they come up.

Nice work with the update. I was going to whine that there wasn't a colour key ... until I noticed that you've got the tables breaking every 50 entries and stuffed it in there ;)

Noticed that, huh? I liked how you did it, so I did something like it.

The light grey makes the inactives extremely easy to pass over, so good choces on the colour shceme ... except for that big, bright whitespace in the background lol

Hmm...maybe I could go for an NG-like background color? That would be interesting...

I like the preface comments lol Asking for removal is extremely rare (I'm up to three times in 14 months) but that was an amusing way you put it lol

Thanks ;-)

Due to the rank-numbering schematic being used, presumably this is the case with your XP list as well, you might want to tweak your comments with respect to the vagrants. The vagrants are given NG ranks, but your list simply skips them and numbers everyone else as if they did not exist. Rather than adjusting the program and system you've developed, it's easier to simply change the comments.

I'll keep that in mind (I've only got a few minutes, then I have to go).

For the purposes of this list, vagrants do not exist. As such, you may notice some discrepancies between the rank listed here and your NG rank on the date of the update. The further down a listing you are, the greater number of vagrants above you, and the greater the difference you will see. Twiddle with something like that and see what works for you.

Ah, good, another explanation for ranking discrepancies.

It's unfortunate you don't have the webspace for old updates =(

Heck, I barely have space for this stuff! When I tried to put the new b/p update with the old exp and b/p lists, I could fit everything but the last page! I'm going to see how I do with bandwidth (I don't know how much the school gives me); if it becomes a problem, I'll sign up for a few free services and use them as mirrors. If one goes down, I'll have X others that people can still go to.

At 8/30/04 05:26 AM, -Josh- wrote: My rank is going up in b/p, yesterday i got around 40 b/p:)

140 and I moved zero ranks :-P~~~

I don't know how many I got yesterday, but I moved up a few places. Almost breaking 400!

At 8/30/04 04:52 PM, BonusStage wrote: Alright i have been so confused about this whole thing, i tried to find it on the site, but is it a download, because i think i saw some on the site, and i have a mac, and saw a few .exe's on the site, so i'm not all to confident that i'll be able to see this thing myself :(

Have you been going to the Newgrounds Stuff section of my site? Also, there's a link to that section in the table o' contents up top. If you're still having trouble, here's the current blam/protect and experience lists. These are mirror links; I put them on some freebie websites so they don't kill my personal site's bandwidth ;-).

At 8/30/04 05:13 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: These are mirror links; I put them on some freebie websites so they don't kill my personal site's bandwidth ;-)

If that's a concern, change your sig links as well.

At 8/30/04 05:43 PM, D0GMA wrote:

At 8/30/04 05:13 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: These are mirror links; I put them on some freebie websites so they don't kill my personal site's bandwidth ;-)

If that's a concern, change your sig links as well.

Normal pages on my site are okay. But downloading page after page of listing (which run from 150KB to 600KB each) can chew through bandwidth pretty quick. Especially if this thing gets more popular.

At 8/30/04 08:40 PM, BonusStage wrote:

At 8/30/04 08:29 PM, fbipolux wrote: I saw that if you had like 1 blam, you were like 56,000 / 581,112 users... Wich is means, most of the Newgrounds users arent doing any Blam/Protection points... I am now ranked # 969 out of 581,112 users. The best to be is in the top 1000, because this way, we are sure to be Elite Guard and to be an active user.

actually now there are finally over 1000 EG's so you could now be above it, and still be an EG, of course you will be low ranked, but an EG all the same :), also well A LOT of users are alts, and a lot have left the site as well meaning there will not be a lot of compition for those first couple 100,000 for a while ^_^

Just wait until this weekend, when I do a full blam/protect update. Then you'll be able to see who wasn't been getting points for this whole week. That'll be interesting.

I've just made a little formatting update to the blam/post listing. I've changed the color scheme a bit, and I put back and forward links on the list pages. Tell me what you think!

One 'minor' problem with the list, but it makes sense sort of.

When i saw my name on the total BP listing, it said '-10'.
I thought that meant I lost 10 places.. but I really gained them ('-' meaning the rank was lower (as in better)).
It was strange... but I guess it makes sense in an odd way.

At 8/30/04 09:57 PM, BonusStage wrote:

At 8/30/04 09:47 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: I've just made a little formatting update to the blam/post listing. I've changed the color scheme a bit, and I put back and forward links on the list pages. Tell me what you think!

heh they do always look better, when they aren't just plain black or white, i like, ALSO the links you posted in that one post of yours (confused :) they work just fine to get to the site, but the straight forward links in your Sig don't work for me :\

Ugh. Dang it. I forgot to change those links when I put the list on mirror sites. Alright, they're fixed now. BTW, you can always find working list links at my website. Glad you liked the new look!

At 8/30/04 10:03 PM, j00bie wrote: One 'minor' problem with the list, but it makes sense sort of.

When i saw my name on the total BP listing, it said '-10'.
I thought that meant I lost 10 places.. but I really gained them ('-' meaning the rank was lower (as in better)).
It was strange... but I guess it makes sense in an odd way.

Yeah, I'm still debating what I'm going to do about that. I think for the next update I'll reverse the signs in that column; +10 will mean gained 10 places, and -10 will mean lost 10 places.

Do one for BBS posts!

At 8/30/04 10:28 PM, stampeder wrote: Do one for BBS posts!

Remind me again at the end of September. I only re-build my profile lists every month, because it takes a day and a half to run through all 1,000,000 profiles. At that time, if the b/p and experience lists do well enough, I'll consider doing other lists.

At 8/30/04 08:40 PM, BonusStage wrote: also well A LOT of users are alts

And some of those alts are EGs ;) 3 vagrant EGs at last count, so no telling on those.

At 8/30/04 09:47 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: I've just made a little formatting update to the blam/post listing. I've changed the color scheme a bit, and I put back and forward links on the list pages. Tell me what you think!

Looks a lot better. When I was originally putting things together for the EGRL, a lot fo the work I did was late at night with the house mostly dark. Going back and forth from the NG grey to the white base pages I had was really tough on the eyes.

At 8/30/04 10:28 PM, stampeder wrote: Do one for BBS posts!

No.

At 8/30/04 10:30 PM, ShittyKitty wrote:

At 8/30/04 10:28 PM, stampeder wrote: Do one for BBS posts!

Remind me again at the end of September. I only re-build my profile lists every month, because it takes a day and a half to run through all 1,000,000 profiles. At that time, if the b/p and experience lists do well enough, I'll consider doing other lists.

The Top Posters thread was closed for a reason. Read Dobio's final comment before he locked it ... and he was the one running the list.

At 8/30/04 10:07 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: I think for the next update I'll reverse the signs in that column; +10 will mean gained 10 places, and -10 will mean lost 10 places.

that definately is more sensible... and what all the other lists are like.
Glad you plan on fixing that, it would probably brew up a lot of confusion.

At 8/30/04 10:03 PM, j00bie wrote: One 'minor' problem with the list, but it makes sense sort of.

When i saw my name on the total BP listing, it said '-10'.
I thought that meant I lost 10 places.. but I really gained them ('-' meaning the rank was lower (as in better)).
It was strange... but I guess it makes sense in an odd way.

Yeah...I agree with j00b...definitely switch the negative signs...very confusing when you look at your place, and it says you have gained -5...I would rather it say a positive number if you lost places.

At 8/31/04 12:42 AM, D0GMA wrote: Looks a lot better. When I was originally putting things together for the EGRL, a lot fo the work I did was late at night with the house mostly dark. Going back and forth from the NG grey to the white base pages I had was really tough on the eyes.

Heh, looking at different colored backgrounds multiple times can get quite hard on the eyes. Good idea! I would however prefer a pitch black background...but that is just me.

At 8/30/04 10:28 PM, stampeder wrote: Do one for BBS posts!

No.

The Top Posters thread was closed for a reason. Read Dobio's final comment before he locked it ... and he was the one running the list.

Yeah, be careful. You don't want to do a BBS list. People started really producing spam when that list was in effect. The mods took notice.

At 8/31/04 12:56 AM, RedCircle wrote:

At 8/31/04 12:42 AM, D0GMA wrote: The Top Posters thread was closed for a reason. Read Dobio's final comment before he locked it ... and he was the one running the list.

Yeah, be careful. You don't want to do a BBS list. People started really producing spam when that list was in effect. The mods took notice.

Hmm...yeah, I think I'll just stick with the b/p and experience lists.

At 8/31/04 12:50 AM, j00bie wrote:

At 8/30/04 10:07 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: I think for the next update I'll reverse the signs in that column; +10 will mean gained 10 places, and -10 will mean lost 10 places.

that definately is more sensible... and what all the other lists are like.
Glad you plan on fixing that, it would probably brew up a lot of confusion.

Yup, it'll be switched. Also, I'm putting everyone whose rank has dropped (you know, the bad direction) in italics.

Oh, and I'm adding another level of distinction: 5+ b/p's per hour (equals 120 b/p's a day). I noticed that I had a couple of those when I was doing some test runs today (you were 5 too, d0gma), so I'm making those users a nice pretty blue color. It really sticks out, which is what I'm aiming for.