At 1/20/25 04:59 AM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/19/25 06:28 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1393606
I made it myself in lmms. I rarely get front paged now :(

Notes sound like they're expressionless — like there's no velocity change between the notes, something you may wanna consider looking at

Musically it sounds more like funni sitcom music rather than a lounge number or a classic jazz number. It's entirely valid of course, just be sure you know what you're trying to convey, and what you're doing to convey that thing

Jazz is all about feel, and if it doesn't feel right, you might wanna revisit it

(Sincerely, a trained jazz drummer)

At 1/20/25 08:30 AM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/20/25 04:59 AM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/19/25 06:28 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1393606
I made it myself in lmms. I rarely get front paged now :(

Notes sound like they're expressionless — like there's no velocity change between the notes, something you may wanna consider looking at

Musically it sounds more like funni sitcom music rather than a lounge number or a classic jazz number. It's entirely valid of course, just be sure you know what you're trying to convey, and what you're doing to convey that thing

Jazz is all about feel, and if it doesn't feel right, you might wanna revisit it

(Sincerely, a trained jazz drummer)

yea it felt right too me thank you! I'm not sure what you mean by a jazz feel but I try to get sound like a stride swing jazz

At 1/20/25 10:16 AM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/20/25 08:30 AM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/20/25 04:59 AM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/19/25 06:28 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1393606
I made it myself in lmms. I rarely get front paged now :(

Notes sound like they're expressionless — like there's no velocity change between the notes, something you may wanna consider looking at

Musically it sounds more like funni sitcom music rather than a lounge number or a classic jazz number. It's entirely valid of course, just be sure you know what you're trying to convey, and what you're doing to convey that thing

Jazz is all about feel, and if it doesn't feel right, you might wanna revisit it

(Sincerely, a trained jazz drummer)

yea it felt right too me thank you! I'm not sure what you mean by a jazz feel but I try to get sound like a stride swing jazz

okay after messing around with strength volume I hear a big difference now

At 1/20/25 11:33 AM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/20/25 10:16 AM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/20/25 08:30 AM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/20/25 04:59 AM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/19/25 06:28 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1393606
I made it myself in lmms. I rarely get front paged now :(

Notes sound like they're expressionless — like there's no velocity change between the notes, something you may wanna consider looking at

Musically it sounds more like funni sitcom music rather than a lounge number or a classic jazz number. It's entirely valid of course, just be sure you know what you're trying to convey, and what you're doing to convey that thing

Jazz is all about feel, and if it doesn't feel right, you might wanna revisit it

(Sincerely, a trained jazz drummer)

yea it felt right too me thank you! I'm not sure what you mean by a jazz feel but I try to get sound like a stride swing jazz

okay after messing around with strength volume I hear a big difference now

You got it 👍🏽

Feel is not just the rhythm, it's dynamics, it's subtlety, it's a lot of things

At 1/21/25 01:24 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 04:03 AM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/20/25 06:02 PM, Tyhond wrote:It needs more Jazz, softer sounds. It feels like I'm waitng for my coffee but I don't drink coffee though :>

Nice job btw!

Not sure how to achieve that?

As I said, dynamics

Playing with your note velocity

Lighter touches because the song is crying for it and you've gone ham instead

Get a strong command of your soft-loud before you continue because jazz depends on it

At 1/21/25 02:01 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 01:24 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 04:03 AM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/20/25 06:02 PM, Tyhond wrote:It needs more Jazz, softer sounds. It feels like I'm waitng for my coffee but I don't drink coffee though :>

Nice job btw!

Not sure how to achieve that?

As I said, dynamics

Playing with your note velocity

Lighter touches because the song is crying for it and you've gone ham instead

Get a strong command of your soft-loud before you continue because jazz depends on it

It has dynamics, that just the instruments. Also I completely disagree because the entire song has dynamics

At 1/21/25 02:26 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:01 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 01:24 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 04:03 AM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/20/25 06:02 PM, Tyhond wrote:It needs more Jazz, softer sounds. It feels like I'm waitng for my coffee but I don't drink coffee though :>

Nice job btw!

Not sure how to achieve that?

As I said, dynamics

Playing with your note velocity

Lighter touches because the song is crying for it and you've gone ham instead

Get a strong command of your soft-loud before you continue because jazz depends on it

It has dynamics, that just the instruments. Also I completely disagree because the entire song has dynamics

If that's so, why can't we hear them?

Subtle is as subtle gets with a lot of jazz

At 1/21/25 02:29 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:26 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:01 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 01:24 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 04:03 AM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/20/25 06:02 PM, Tyhond wrote:It needs more Jazz, softer sounds. It feels like I'm waitng for my coffee but I don't drink coffee though :>

Nice job btw!

Not sure how to achieve that?

As I said, dynamics

Playing with your note velocity

Lighter touches because the song is crying for it and you've gone ham instead

Get a strong command of your soft-loud before you continue because jazz depends on it

It has dynamics, that just the instruments. Also I completely disagree because the entire song has dynamics

If that's so, why can't we hear them?

Subtle is as subtle gets with a lot of jazz

It's not suppose to be super soft jazz it's suppose to be old school jazz stride swing.

At 1/21/25 02:30 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:29 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:26 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:01 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 01:24 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 04:03 AM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/20/25 06:02 PM, Tyhond wrote:It needs more Jazz, softer sounds. It feels like I'm waitng for my coffee but I don't drink coffee though :>

Nice job btw!

Not sure how to achieve that?

As I said, dynamics

Playing with your note velocity

Lighter touches because the song is crying for it and you've gone ham instead

Get a strong command of your soft-loud before you continue because jazz depends on it

It has dynamics, that just the instruments. Also I completely disagree because the entire song has dynamics

If that's so, why can't we hear them?

Subtle is as subtle gets with a lot of jazz

It's not suppose to be super soft jazz it's suppose to be old school jazz stride swing.

Even old school jazz is subtle when it needs to be, it doesn't hover at the same kind of note volume

At 1/21/25 02:33 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:30 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:29 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:26 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:01 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 01:24 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 04:03 AM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/20/25 06:02 PM, Tyhond wrote:It needs more Jazz, softer sounds. It feels like I'm waitng for my coffee but I don't drink coffee though :>

Nice job btw!

Not sure how to achieve that?

As I said, dynamics

Playing with your note velocity

Lighter touches because the song is crying for it and you've gone ham instead

Get a strong command of your soft-loud before you continue because jazz depends on it

It has dynamics, that just the instruments. Also I completely disagree because the entire song has dynamics

If that's so, why can't we hear them?

Subtle is as subtle gets with a lot of jazz

It's not suppose to be super soft jazz it's suppose to be old school jazz stride swing.

Even old school jazz is subtle when it needs to be, it doesn't hover at the same kind of note volume

If you can't hear the subtle 10th note base line and the base being louder and the chords being the loudest then you need to fix your ears

At 1/21/25 02:35 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:33 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:30 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:29 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:26 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:01 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 01:24 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 04:03 AM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/20/25 06:02 PM, Tyhond wrote:It needs more Jazz, softer sounds. It feels like I'm waitng for my coffee but I don't drink coffee though :>

Nice job btw!

Not sure how to achieve that?

As I said, dynamics

Playing with your note velocity

Lighter touches because the song is crying for it and you've gone ham instead

Get a strong command of your soft-loud before you continue because jazz depends on it

It has dynamics, that just the instruments. Also I completely disagree because the entire song has dynamics

If that's so, why can't we hear them?

Subtle is as subtle gets with a lot of jazz

It's not suppose to be super soft jazz it's suppose to be old school jazz stride swing.

Even old school jazz is subtle when it needs to be, it doesn't hover at the same kind of note volume

If you can't hear the subtle 10th note base line and the base being louder and the chords being the loudest then you need to fix your ears

Naw, me ears are good, I mix me own songs

And I think you just told on your mixing process and why it doesn't get a feature

At 1/21/25 02:41 PM, Tyhond wrote:

I don't think you can hear the dynamics because this is the drums LOOK THE 2 AND THE 4 ARE LOUDER

Sometimes when you mix things, how high the mixer goes up or down kinda helps but there's occasionally where the certain is still quieter despite being high up. Sometimes it's probably have to do with the instrument or plugin.

Actually, I'm pretty dumb, not sure where this is going xP

At 1/21/25 02:40 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:39 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:37 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:I don't think you can hear the dynamics because this is the drums LOOK THE 2 AND THE 4 ARE LOUDER

You know that's not all there is to dynamics, right?

Obviously

At 1/21/25 02:48 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:40 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:39 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:37 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:I don't think you can hear the dynamics because this is the drums LOOK THE 2 AND THE 4 ARE LOUDER

You know that's not all there is to dynamics, right?

Obviously

Then why are we not hearing it?

If even on a phone speaker we can perceive them, even on something as brassy as Sing Sing Sing, then it's significant that I would point it out now

At 1/21/25 02:51 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:48 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:40 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:39 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:37 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:I don't think you can hear the dynamics because this is the drums LOOK THE 2 AND THE 4 ARE LOUDER

You know that's not all there is to dynamics, right?

Obviously

Then why are we not hearing it?

If even on a phone speaker we can perceive them, even on something as brassy as Sing Sing Sing, then it's significant that I would point it out now

You really think the only way to have dynamics is to lower the entire song? each note has it's own dynamics. Also adding more notes on beat affects the dynamics too.

At 1/21/25 02:51 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:48 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:40 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:39 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:37 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:I don't think you can hear the dynamics because this is the drums LOOK THE 2 AND THE 4 ARE LOUDER

You know that's not all there is to dynamics, right?

Obviously

Then why are we not hearing it?

If even on a phone speaker we can perceive them, even on something as brassy as Sing Sing Sing, then it's significant that I would point it out now

You really think the only way to have dynamics is to lower the entire song? each note has it's own dynamics. Also adding more notes on beat affects the dynamics too.

At 1/21/25 02:57 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:51 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:48 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:40 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:39 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:37 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:I don't think you can hear the dynamics because this is the drums LOOK THE 2 AND THE 4 ARE LOUDER

You know that's not all there is to dynamics, right?

Obviously

Then why are we not hearing it?

If even on a phone speaker we can perceive them, even on something as brassy as Sing Sing Sing, then it's significant that I would point it out now

You really think the only way to have dynamics is to lower the entire song? each note has it's own dynamics. Also adding more notes on beat affects the dynamics too.

Don't need to mansplain that to me, that's not what I'm hearing in the end result

The loud emphases are not loud and in your face, the whole piece is in your face which is not par for the course even with brassy things

And I might add, if your response to someone about not having a good piano is anything to go by, there is a great free piano, called Soundpaint 1928 Steinway

There are exceptional free things, and @LD-W has flagged them on a regular basis even on the contest servers, all you need to do is look

At 1/21/25 02:54 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:51 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:48 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:40 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:39 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:37 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:I don't think you can hear the dynamics because this is the drums LOOK THE 2 AND THE 4 ARE LOUDER

You know that's not all there is to dynamics, right?

Obviously

Then why are we not hearing it?

If even on a phone speaker we can perceive them, even on something as brassy as Sing Sing Sing, then it's significant that I would point it out now

You really think the only way to have dynamics is to lower the entire song? each note has it's own dynamics. Also adding more notes on beat affects the dynamics too.

I literary just posted a new track with the same exact instrument piano only and the audio visual reader LITTERARY SHOWS the dynamics

At 1/21/25 03:11 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:54 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:51 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:48 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:40 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:39 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:37 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:I don't think you can hear the dynamics because this is the drums LOOK THE 2 AND THE 4 ARE LOUDER

You know that's not all there is to dynamics, right?

Obviously

Then why are we not hearing it?

If even on a phone speaker we can perceive them, even on something as brassy as Sing Sing Sing, then it's significant that I would point it out now

You really think the only way to have dynamics is to lower the entire song? each note has it's own dynamics. Also adding more notes on beat affects the dynamics too.

I literary just posted a new track with the same exact instrument piano only and the audio visual reader LITTERARY SHOWS the dynamics

Right, let's approach this another way

Listen to your own song on your phone

Then Sing, Sing, Sing

Then spot any mixing differences

At 1/21/25 03:01 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:57 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:51 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:48 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:40 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:39 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 1/21/25 02:37 PM, Ongokiller50 wrote:I don't think you can hear the dynamics because this is the drums LOOK THE 2 AND THE 4 ARE LOUDER

You know that's not all there is to dynamics, right?

Obviously

Then why are we not hearing it?

If even on a phone speaker we can perceive them, even on something as brassy as Sing Sing Sing, then it's significant that I would point it out now

You really think the only way to have dynamics is to lower the entire song? each note has it's own dynamics. Also adding more notes on beat affects the dynamics too.

Don't need to mansplain that to me, that's not what I'm hearing in the end result

The loud emphases are not loud and in your face, the whole piece is in your face which is not par for the course even with brassy things

And I might add, if your response to someone about not having a good piano is anything to go by, there is a great free piano, called Soundpaint 1928 Steinway

There are exceptional free things, and @LD-W has flagged them on a regular basis even on the contest servers, all you need to do is look

I'll like to hear you do stride piano music since your a know it all!