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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-04-20 14:17:29


At 4/5/25 06:46 PM, TinFoi wrote:Not sure if anyone would respond to this, someone might since I just bumped this one up.

My problem with doing art is sharing it in general. All the sites but this one are just horrible for posting art on, but that's the least of my worries for right now, it's when I actually show it in person, because either they would judge harshly, give fake praises, or destroy it.

I have it with all three, especially with my parents before, I have this old art piece that one of my parents tried talking to me about (which doesn't make sense since they already went through the book, they must've saw that), but before I could get to laying down my argument, they crushed it and were about to toss it in the garbage..

And people wonder why I don't share what I make anymore.


I had issues with my physical art getting destroyed and being damaged, too. You could always hide your work or use a protective covering to keep the paper safe. May I ask what the subject matter normally is in your art that makes people react this way?

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-04-20 14:34:40


At 4/20/25 02:17 PM, AldilusRex wrote:
At 4/5/25 06:46 PM, TinFoi wrote:Not sure if anyone would respond to this, someone might since I just bumped this one up.

My problem with doing art is sharing it in general. All the sites but this one are just horrible for posting art on, but that's the least of my worries for right now, it's when I actually show it in person, because either they would judge harshly, give fake praises, or destroy it.

I have it with all three, especially with my parents before, I have this old art piece that one of my parents tried talking to me about (which doesn't make sense since they already went through the book, they must've saw that), but before I could get to laying down my argument, they crushed it and were about to toss it in the garbage..

And people wonder why I don't share what I make anymore.

I had issues with my physical art getting destroyed and being damaged, too. You could always hide your work or use a protective covering to keep the paper safe. May I ask what the subject matter normally is in your art that makes people react this way?


I started hiding my work a while ago, I have issues with people seeing it. As for a subject matter, I'm not entirely sure.

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-04-22 18:56:01


At 9/6/23 08:32 AM, Thetageist wrote:Hello!

I was seeing a lot of threads in this forum related to losing motivation, impostor syndrome, and feeling like you’re not enough as an artist. Considering that a lot of the original posters struggled with the same emotions, I wanted to create one place where all the artists who are struggling can talk to each other and see that they’re not alone in their problems, and the others who have come out the other side of those problems can offer advice to every artist, rather than repeating themselves across different threads.

So please, feel free to vent or to share your experiences and advice. You never know who’s going to need it.


The biggest issue plaguing me is a lack of interest/motivation to finish an art piece. I find myself tending to primarily do small doodles rather than the full illustrations I used to be able to do on my phone with ibis Paint. Part of it is that I am comparing myself to my inspirations and thinking that I'm not able to reach where they're at with my current skill level, but another part of it is ADHD not letting me stay focused on one thing for too long. I tend to work on one thing, then get an idea for another, and abandon the original idea in favor of this new one, and vice versa. Not something I'm particularly proud of, and it's something I wish I could get better about.

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-10 21:02:23


I become afraid of drawing whenever I hit art blocks. I have no idea how to stop being afraid.

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-11 19:23:02


At 5/10/25 09:02 PM, VioletGJ wrote:I become afraid of drawing whenever I hit art blocks. I have no idea how to stop being afraid.


As corny as it may sound, sometimes ya just do it scared. Ya don't have to share your art, it's for you at the end of the day. It can be small as a doodle of something you like instead of thinking about bigger pieces. Hope this helps!

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-17 21:08:29


I’ve been feeling frustrated with myself with how I take advice, I feel no matter how much advice I get I take some of it but not all of the advice I’m given, as if I’m gaslighting myself into thinking I’m improving a lot when it’s really just improving slightly. Maybe it’s because I’m a slow learner but it makes me disappointed in myself and makes me wish I was better at using advice


At 5/17/25 09:08 PM, SpicyShark wrote:I’ve been feeling frustrated with myself with how I take advice, I feel no matter how much advice I get I take some of it but not all of the advice I’m given, as if I’m gaslighting myself into thinking I’m improving a lot when it’s really just improving slightly. Maybe it’s because I’m a slow learner but it makes me disappointed in myself and makes me wish I was better at using advice


Hey, since you're saying that you're struggling with improving and taking advice, could i recommend you Marc Brunet's "Learn how to draw in 30 days" video?


It's very begginer friendly and i believe that it would help you tremendously in your journey. He also has various other art tutorials and tips you could check out. Like colouring, perspective, anatomy, faces, and all that jazz.


You should check 'im out!

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-18 12:33:42


oh hell yeah hi everyone

i suffer from uh. everything listed here and more. it sucks ass.


GRRUUUAAAUUU


At 5/18/25 12:33 PM, irkomatose wrote:oh hell yeah hi everyone
i suffer from uh. everything listed here and more. it sucks ass.


I want to encourage you to make your style more eclectic and explore other art that compels you. I understand you must like Jhonen Vasquez's work a lot, but your work is being undermined by how much it reminds me of it. If you want to stand out, you should try changing your approach and perhaps explore other forms of shape language. I love Jhonen Vasquez's work as well, but it is so distinct that it casts a shadow over any imitation. It makes your work look like a pastiche, not something that stands on its own, and as a result it makes people give favor to his work and not yours. I know what its like to be frustrated and I get that, you must've put a lot of work in trying to nail the style so my recommendation for you would be to understand what makes his work unique and eclectic. Think of the different kinds of source material he draws inspiration from like: The Matrix films, David Fincher films, Lovecraftian fiction, Tim Burton's Mars Attacks (which is aesthetically much closer to his style than the previous films mentioned), etc. All that and more adds to the visual language he uses to convey features and shapes. I would explore other ways to draw facial features, hands, figures, and use different color palettes to find other ideas you can work with as well. I say this with compassion because I used to draw Invader Zim fanart when I was a kid and made my own OC's in that style, but in order to grow I had to shed that cocoon so I could move on to other things because I can't do Jhonen Vasquez better than himself! You have to try and figure out what speaks to you and try to synthesize something that makes people stop and say "woah, I haven't seen something like this before" you know? It takes work, but if you want to move up on this or any other platform, then try wandering out of your comfort zone to see if you find something new that you can show to other people. I'm pretty sure every artist (including Jhonen) has had to reckon with this in their journey, so you are not alone in this. Keep trying and eventually you will prevail. If that is not the battle you wish to fight, you can always pursue other things. What matters is that you try something new when something else isn't working for you. Doesn't necessarily have to be to "draw more".

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-19 15:26:09


At 5/18/25 08:22 PM, pinmoBOT wrote:
At 5/18/25 12:33 PM, irkomatose wrote:oh hell yeah hi everyone
i suffer from uh. everything listed here and more. it sucks ass.

I want to encourage you to make your style more eclectic and explore other art that compels you. I understand you must like Jhonen Vasquez's work a lot, but your work is being undermined by how much it reminds me of it. If you want to stand out, you should try changing your approach and perhaps explore other forms of shape language. I love Jhonen Vasquez's work as well, but it is so distinct that it casts a shadow over any imitation. It makes your work look like a pastiche, not something that stands on its own, and as a result it makes people give favor to his work and not yours. I know what its like to be frustrated and I get that, you must've put a lot of work in trying to nail the style so my recommendation for you would be to understand what makes his work unique and eclectic. Think of the different kinds of source material he draws inspiration from like: The Matrix films, David Fincher films, Lovecraftian fiction, Tim Burton's Mars Attacks (which is aesthetically much closer to his style than the previous films mentioned), etc. All that and more adds to the visual language he uses to convey features and shapes. I would explore other ways to draw facial features, hands, figures, and use different color palettes to find other ideas you can work with as well. I say this with compassion because I used to draw Invader Zim fanart when I was a kid and made my own OC's in that style, but in order to grow I had to shed that cocoon so I could move on to other things because I can't do Jhonen Vasquez better than himself! You have to try and figure out what speaks to you and try to synthesize something that makes people stop and say "woah, I haven't seen something like this before" you know? It takes work, but if you want to move up on this or any other platform, then try wandering out of your comfort zone to see if you find something new that you can show to other people. I'm pretty sure every artist (including Jhonen) has had to reckon with this in their journey, so you are not alone in this. Keep trying and eventually you will prevail. If that is not the battle you wish to fight, you can always pursue other things. What matters is that you try something new when something else isn't working for you. Doesn't necessarily have to be to "draw more".


than you for the advice !! i actually was worried that my more recent art was moving away from his influence but maybe that was actually a good thing. I'll try to think about this for future pieces. though i do wonder which drawings you were looking at when you came to this conclusion cuz a lot of stuff on my page is a little old, so im just curious.

my newer stuff has been kind of influenced by a few more stuff rather than just vasquez works (a lot of pikmin fanart if you're curious) i again was worrying that was a bad thing, but I'll try to maybe embrace it.

thanks !!


GRRUUUAAAUUU

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-19 15:34:41


At 5/19/25 03:26 PM, irkomatose wrote:
At 5/18/25 08:22 PM, pinmoBOT wrote:
At 5/18/25 12:33 PM, irkomatose wrote:oh hell yeah hi everyone
i suffer from uh. everything listed here and more. it sucks ass.

I want to encourage you to make your style more eclectic and explore other art that compels you. I understand you must like Jhonen Vasquez's work a lot, but your work is being undermined by how much it reminds me of it. If you want to stand out, you should try changing your approach and perhaps explore other forms of shape language. I love Jhonen Vasquez's work as well, but it is so distinct that it casts a shadow over any imitation. It makes your work look like a pastiche, not something that stands on its own, and as a result it makes people give favor to his work and not yours. I know what its like to be frustrated and I get that, you must've put a lot of work in trying to nail the style so my recommendation for you would be to understand what makes his work unique and eclectic. Think of the different kinds of source material he draws inspiration from like: The Matrix films, David Fincher films, Lovecraftian fiction, Tim Burton's Mars Attacks (which is aesthetically much closer to his style than the previous films mentioned), etc. All that and more adds to the visual language he uses to convey features and shapes. I would explore other ways to draw facial features, hands, figures, and use different color palettes to find other ideas you can work with as well. I say this with compassion because I used to draw Invader Zim fanart when I was a kid and made my own OC's in that style, but in order to grow I had to shed that cocoon so I could move on to other things because I can't do Jhonen Vasquez better than himself! You have to try and figure out what speaks to you and try to synthesize something that makes people stop and say "woah, I haven't seen something like this before" you know? It takes work, but if you want to move up on this or any other platform, then try wandering out of your comfort zone to see if you find something new that you can show to other people. I'm pretty sure every artist (including Jhonen) has had to reckon with this in their journey, so you are not alone in this. Keep trying and eventually you will prevail. If that is not the battle you wish to fight, you can always pursue other things. What matters is that you try something new when something else isn't working for you. Doesn't necessarily have to be to "draw more".

than you for the advice !! i actually was worried that my more recent art was moving away from his influence but maybe that was actually a good thing. I'll try to think about this for future pieces. though i do wonder which drawings you were looking at when you came to this conclusion cuz a lot of stuff on my page is a little old, so im just curious.
my newer stuff has been kind of influenced by a few more stuff rather than just vasquez works (a lot of pikmin fanart if you're curious) i again was worrying that was a bad thing, but I'll try to maybe embrace it.
thanks !!


another thing that inspires me is just old 2000's "emo" style art in general, but i guess that also kinda ties back to jhonen... hmm


GRRUUUAAAUUU

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-19 19:10:47


i am going to try to start actually learning art fundamentals with thing friend suggested and ive also seen get recommended here a lot

i am very scared. i hate having diagnosed anxiety n a shitton of other mood affective disorders. makes simple shit like this hard. my fear of failure is so great just loading the video page of the playlist of videos and looking at his website made me almost spiral. i feel like nothing.

this is Not Good lmao but i desperately want to fight this.


GRRUUUAAAUUU

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-19 20:34:08


I’ve been feeling some imposter syndrome lately. Mainly with my character Everet . Sometimes when I showcase my character’s design to discord servers, some people say it either looks like something else or it reminds them of something else. I’ve been learning to cope with that but I just wanted to vent it out here.


If you’re curious of what my character looks like, here are some drawings

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Currently working on a cartoon this summer. Stay tuned I guess. Heh.

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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-20 00:37:46


I made the post in response to your most recent work; the last 5 pieces uploaded to the art section. It is worth mentioning that I am not familiar with Pikmin so that might have been lost on me, which isn’t your fault. Keep cataloguing stuff and adding to the mix. Create mood boards. Cultivate an aesthetic. If one is cooking but doesn’t know what to make, then they find a recipe to follow so they can try it out. I used to watch my friends draw and I would learn many things about their process. I had a close friend of mine who would draw with a pen straight onto paper without sketching anything. I saw him gesture the motions he would make and rehearse what he would do before drawing lines. He would focus on picturing what he saw on the page while exceeding caution around overlapping areas, etc. It was very different to my own method, which was very blobby and messy. He and I made joke doodles in which we tried to imitate each other and in the process we learned new ways to approach doing work. Perhaps it could be of benefit to find other artists with overlapping interests who stream on occasion which you could observe and learn new methods from, or even better, find a group of friends and make something like a drawpile where you can doodle with low stakes and draw over each others work. That was real fun to me and I learned a lot when doing that. There are many artists out there on Newgrounds. See what you can find and learn from your favorite chefs. It also can’t hurt to ask questions when they come up. A teacher once told me long ago “If you ever feel dumb for asking questions, you’ll feel even dumber not knowing the answer to anything” so have at it. Remember though: be mindful and be reasonable. I know this is a lot, but I I want you to have courage, keep your head high, and when you can, get cooking.


Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-20 00:57:29


It isn't until you face your fear of failure that you will become its master. Fear is only useful if it helps you survive, but if it compromises your ability to carry onward, it will consume you. There is an old proverb that says "it is the stoked fire that tempers the blade", so have courage and strike while the iron is hot because if it cools, you'll end up with a brittle blade. Now march and follow failure's tracks, and once you find it always keep it in your sights and it will never harm you. You will learn everything you need to know about failure.


Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-20 01:40:26


If you’re curious of what my character looks like, here are some drawings


Out of curiosity, what is your expectation when showing off Everett? Is there a particular way you want people to feel? Based on what you are showcasing, I noticed that your lines are looser and more gestural on your last image, which signals to me that you had more confidence drawing it and it looks better as a result. The other two images feel more strained. I can feel the weighting on the lines slow down near the edges. It feels like riding a bike and suddenly slowing down because you're scared of hitting a rock, which I can understand. Riding a bike takes practice, but having confidence riding said bike requires more experience.


In regard to the use of color, the lemon yellow feels acidic to me and the overwhelming presence of the color orange makes him feel like a traffic cone. The red, yellow and orange are all competing against each other on who can be brighter and it divides my attention throughout the piece. It makes it difficult to find a resting point. Maybe add some more neutral colors to add contrast (perhaps with lower saturation). Looking at this makes me wonder what would happen if you chose one color to be brighter and more saturated than the rest and one that is a bit darker for variety?


My critique might not be worth much since I work in a different style than yours, but I thought it would be worth adding food for thought and giving feedback since you're showcasing this.


Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-20 08:00:43


At 5/20/25 12:37 AM, pinmoBOT wrote:I made the post in response to your most recent work; the last 5 pieces uploaded to the art section. It is worth mentioning that I am not familiar with Pikmin so that might have been lost on me, which isn’t your fault. Keep cataloguing stuff and adding to the mix. Create mood boards. Cultivate an aesthetic. If one is cooking but doesn’t know what to make, then they find a recipe to follow so they can try it out. I used to watch my friends draw and I would learn many things about their process. I had a close friend of mine who would draw with a pen straight onto paper without sketching anything. I saw him gesture the motions he would make and rehearse what he would do before drawing lines. He would focus on picturing what he saw on the page while exceeding caution around overlapping areas, etc. It was very different to my own method, which was very blobby and messy. He and I made joke doodles in which we tried to imitate each other and in the process we learned new ways to approach doing work. Perhaps it could be of benefit to find other artists with overlapping interests who stream on occasion which you could observe and learn new methods from, or even better, find a group of friends and make something like a drawpile where you can doodle with low stakes and draw over each others work. That was real fun to me and I learned a lot when doing that. There are many artists out there on Newgrounds. See what you can find and learn from your favorite chefs. It also can’t hurt to ask questions when they come up. A teacher once told me long ago “If you ever feel dumb for asking questions, you’ll feel even dumber not knowing the answer to anything” so have at it. Remember though: be mindful and be reasonable. I know this is a lot, but I I want you to have courage, keep your head high, and when you can, get cooking.


thank you so much !!! I'll try that, sometimes i do silly drawpiles with my friends but they do make me a little anxious drawing live where everyone can see my mistakes. but i will try to fight that.

thank you so much i really don't know what to say.


GRRUUUAAAUUU

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-23 20:18:13


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I’m probably gonna go to traditional for this cause I really hate the proportions on my anatomy and I need to practice more. Still though it feels like I can’t improve and I gaslight myself into thinking I’m taking criticism well when I’m really just emotionally responding to it well

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-23 23:22:26


At 5/23/25 08:18 PM, SpicyShark wrote:
I’m probably gonna go to traditional for this cause I really hate the proportions on my anatomy and I need to practice more. Still though it feels like I can’t improve and I gaslight myself into thinking I’m taking criticism well when I’m really just emotionally responding to it well


Don’t worry. You’ll get it right eventually. I’d say study a little bit about anatomy. It doesn’t have to be super-detailed sketching, just draw the general shape of body parts using the muscles as a template. And don’t forget that bodies come in various shapes too. Better to learn how than to be stuck drawing with Jack Skellington anatomy like I used to do, lol. Took me a while to stop giving my characters extra-long arms and legs.


(Note: Just in case anyone misunderstands, no the example I’m giving is not my own work. It’s something I borrowed for accurate reference for exaggeration.)


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-24 09:49:22


At 9/9/23 12:28 PM, vlsrb wrote:
At 9/9/23 09:20 AM, MondoBilby wrote:I'm having a bit of trouble getting myself to work on a comic I really want to make. I've been having ideas and making plans for it for maybe a couple years now, and I really want to get started on making it, but I'm scared to commit to something I'm not even sure will work out. I'm worried it won't be well written enough or have bad pacing or that after a few days I'll start to dislike it, and I know that these things are perfectly normal and bound to happen for a first comic, but I get so embarrassed when I make mistakes and I don't want people to think I'm incompetent at what I'm doing. I love getting constructive critisism, but at the same time I'm scared to share the comic to people if I do make it because I don't know if anyone will like it.
Anyone have any tips on how to overcome these feelings?

Honestly, I could have written this. I very frequently struggle with a lot of the things you mentioned here.

Don't know if it's going to be helpful, but a piece of advice I could give you (and that I should really start following myself) is: just do it. The only way your story is going to be brought into existence is if you draw it, page after page after page - no other sequence of events will lead to that outcome. Is it going to be perfect? No, you've said as much yourself. But nothing is ever perfect, not even published graphic novels by professional artists. Better to put in the effort to have your imperfect ideas actually exist in the real world than to cultivate an unobtainable platonic ideal stuck in your head, never to be seen by anyone.

I'm reminded of something I read a long time ago in, of all things, a Cracked article. To paraphrase: imagine two writers who both have a similar idea, but writer A pumps out 1000 words a day and writer B just endlessly thinks about their story and waits for the "perfect" moment to start working on it. One year later, A has the first draft of a novel and B has nothing.

Hope this was even remotely of use!


That sentence right there... "Better to put in the effort... ...never to be seen by anyone."


I'd love to have it etched on a plaque, hung on a wall. Those shall be words to live by!


Currently in the middle of doing just that. Only, I'm posting my trash on Deviantart. When I have better level/mood, then I shall post on Newgrounds.


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-24 14:43:24


I was going to make my own thread about this, but was worried it may have already been made. Don't wanna spam. Plus, it is discouraging, so fits here too.


So, what would you do if you noticed an anatomical issue after being mostly done with a piece? You have already rendered the majority of it. It would likely just barely be faster to fix than to just restart. This might be a me thing, but it's definitely because of the breaks I've taken between. A lot of things popped up, so I've been working on this in bursts over the last 4 months. And this time, I noticed it. If I just finished the piece quicker, was done and then noticed, it'd be easier to say "well what's done is done, I'll fix it when I redraw it next time"

It's hard to keep the momentum currently.

It's not horrendous. But I tried to do an angle, that ended up making a bit of a bobble head effect. Her shoulders looked too small.

Any advice to get over it would be appreciated , or similar experience. Either way, nice to rant about. Thanks for listening.

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-25 02:23:05


At 5/24/25 02:43 PM, AbstractOutliers wrote:I was going to make my own thread about this, but was worried it may have already been made. Don't wanna spam. Plus, it is discouraging, so fits here too.

So, what would you do if you noticed an anatomical issue after being mostly done with a piece? You have already rendered the majority of it. It would likely just barely be faster to fix than to just restart. This might be a me thing, but it's definitely because of the breaks I've taken between. A lot of things popped up, so I've been working on this in bursts over the last 4 months. And this time, I noticed it. If I just finished the piece quicker, was done and then noticed, it'd be easier to say "well what's done is done, I'll fix it when I redraw it next time"
It's hard to keep the momentum currently.
It's not horrendous. But I tried to do an angle, that ended up making a bit of a bobble head effect. Her shoulders looked too small.
Any advice to get over it would be appreciated , or similar experience. Either way, nice to rant about. Thanks for listening.


The good news regardless of what you decide to do with this drawing is you've noticed an issue, next step is for your next drawing to look out for and plan to avoid this sort of anatomical issue in the future. Whether that means catching it earlier, utilizing references, or building compositions that will work better to capture what you're going for.


As for this instance, depending on the severity of the issue and importance of the piece, I might just push on, finish the drawing and post it. But if it's too critical an error and a simple fix is absolutely impossible and I don't want to redraw it. I'd just move on. There are other drawings to be made at all times; it's good to not be precious with your art, you can always move on and destroy something that isn't working, and come back to the idea later.

That being said, if this is a digital piece, I'm willing to bet there's some editing you can figure out to fix your problem that would be faster than complete starting over. If I'm wrong and there isn't, since you already know most of how you want to do this drawing you can probably draw it a lot faster a second time.

Hard to give feedback on these types of issues without seeing the WIP in front of us.


At 5/25/25 02:23 AM, SourCherryJack wrote:
At 5/24/25 02:43 PM, AbstractOutliers wrote:I was going to make my own thread about this, but was worried it may have already been made. Don't wanna spam. Plus, it is discouraging, so fits here too.

So, what would you do if you noticed an anatomical issue after being mostly done with a piece? You have already rendered the majority of it. It would likely just barely be faster to fix than to just restart. This might be a me thing, but it's definitely because of the breaks I've taken between. A lot of things popped up, so I've been working on this in bursts over the last 4 months. And this time, I noticed it. If I just finished the piece quicker, was done and then noticed, it'd be easier to say "well what's done is done, I'll fix it when I redraw it next time"
It's hard to keep the momentum currently.
It's not horrendous. But I tried to do an angle, that ended up making a bit of a bobble head effect. Her shoulders looked too small.
Any advice to get over it would be appreciated , or similar experience. Either way, nice to rant about. Thanks for listening.

The good news regardless of what you decide to do with this drawing is you've noticed an issue, next step is for your next drawing to look out for and plan to avoid this sort of anatomical issue in the future. Whether that means catching it earlier, utilizing references, or building compositions that will work better to capture what you're going for.

As for this instance, depending on the severity of the issue and importance of the piece, I might just push on, finish the drawing and post it. But if it's too critical an error and a simple fix is absolutely impossible and I don't want to redraw it. I'd just move on. There are other drawings to be made at all times; it's good to not be precious with your art, you can always move on and destroy something that isn't working, and come back to the idea later.
That being said, if this is a digital piece, I'm willing to bet there's some editing you can figure out to fix your problem that would be faster than complete starting over. If I'm wrong and there isn't, since you already know most of how you want to do this drawing you can probably draw it a lot faster a second time.
Hard to give feedback on these types of issues without seeing the WIP in front of us.

<pardon tangents>

Thank you for the response, I appreciate the help. I think I've decided what to do about it for now. It is digital , so I will duplicate it, finish one, and use the other to try to fix and learn more from.

It's definitely a skill issue. This is the second piece I've ever tried to render instead of just flat colors and cell shading. I had also learned some new tips and tricks I tried to implement. I'm just not familiar with them yet, and i think that's my biggest issue.

Second part of the trouble is how I've done redraws up to this point, which I'll change going forward. I've tried to change as little as possible in terms of layout, to moreso show growth. That led to me not being very observant.

I'll try not to be so rigid about it. Besides, changing up those things has the potential to show even more growth. I'll keep in mind that there's nothing wrong with scrapping a piece either. Thanks again for the reminder.

I was moreso looking for advice on how to get over it <which you gave> than how to fix it exactly. Thank you, I appreciate it either way and here's what I meant by not changing much. iu_1402769_22274501.webp

I've done more work to the most recent since this, but it's the newest I have on my phone.

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-26 22:52:30


I rarely draw or paint anything these days, but I do have reasons.... They're not all pleasant. Without going into details, let's just say that while I do own property I am technically homeless (my parcel doesn't have a building); I was trying to get it ready for a foundation to be dug & poured, but chronic health conditions are acting up now. Another problem to be solved.


The above are all legit reasons to not do any art. Artmaking takes mental energy, & these days I usually don't have much of it to spare. What worries me is the possibility that once I'm settled one way or another, I may not feel the urge to create anymore...it could disappear & never come back.


Can't help but wonder: is being an artist a young person's pursuit?


There are too many examples of aging painters/sculptors/singers/etc. who lose their inner fire & start to do the same thing over & over... They become technicians. One-trick ponies. I don't ever want to live like that.


Pen pusher, brush dragger, wood butcher & usual suspect.


You can check out my stuff in the folders here if you're bored at work.

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At 5/26/25 10:52 PM, ShadenLines wrote:I rarely draw or paint anything these days, but I do have reasons.... They're not all pleasant. Without going into details, let's just say that while I do own property I am technically homeless (my parcel doesn't have a building); I was trying to get it ready for a foundation to be dug & poured, but chronic health conditions are acting up now. Another problem to be solved.

The above are all legit reasons to not do any art. Artmaking takes mental energy, & these days I usually don't have much of it to spare. What worries me is the possibility that once I'm settled one way or another, I may not feel the urge to create anymore...it could disappear & never come back.

Can't help but wonder: is being an artist a young person's pursuit?

There are too many examples of aging painters/sculptors/singers/etc. who lose their inner fire & start to do the same thing over & over... They become technicians. One-trick ponies. I don't ever want to live like that.


Actually, there are a lot of artists who started later in life. Sure, not all of them became rich, but they earned enough to live comfortably.


The staircase that's growth is infinite, but we should climb anyway to see how far we can go. But remember: growth starts with humility.

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-27 08:56:49


At 5/26/25 11:55 PM, ColinsCreations wrote:
Actually, there are a lot of artists who started later in life. Sure, not all of them became rich, but they earned enough to live comfortably.


In my case it would be "restarted"...I was productive & dedicated throughout my twenties & thirties despite not always being in a perfect place to work. Even got paid here & there.


Pen pusher, brush dragger, wood butcher & usual suspect.


You can check out my stuff in the folders here if you're bored at work.

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-28 13:07:47


I feel llike im stagnating a bit art wise and my art hasnt been getting much in the way of views anymore. I know I shouldn't do it for views or people liking it or anything like that but its hard not to think that way sometimes you know?


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At 9/6/23 08:32 AM, Thetageist wrote:Hello!

I was seeing a lot of threads in this forum related to losing motivation, impostor syndrome, and feeling like you’re not enough as an artist. Considering that a lot of the original posters struggled with the same emotions, I wanted to create one place where all the artists who are struggling can talk to each other and see that they’re not alone in their problems, and the others who have come out the other side of those problems can offer advice to every artist, rather than repeating themselves across different threads.

So please, feel free to vent or to share your experiences and advice. You never know who’s going to need it.


I’m not discouraged myself since typically putting more effort in gives me enough encouragement to continue illustrating. I will admit though I can sometimes feel intimidated by other artists since I do traditional and not digital, and hence I also don’t always have the time to ink and colour. I feel very confident in my style and anatomy but I also do feel my art lack 3D depth and doesn’t look clean enough to be presented or sold as a result of the use of solely a pencil currently. I’m currently planning on a piece that I can finally sit down and ink and colour and perhaps then I’ll feel like I might not be hit with the ‘DeviantArt quality’ perception and have my skills and the effort I put into a consistent style be recognised better. I’ve learned to put less pressure on myself to make money off of art and that I don’t need to be some legendary and perfect artist at such a young age, though I’ve learned to balance enjoying art and working hard - hence my greater output of consistent quality. I’ll likely create my own post thread when I make it - I’m going to give it my all into being my best art piece so fingers crossed! 🤞


I would very much love to engage and socialise with some other artists here - this is the closest to a general discussion hub I could find so I hope to hear back from some people :)


note: i just realised that being intimidated and being discouraged were the same thing. i did not english in this post lmao


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-05-29 05:24:38


Hope it's okay to butt in, I just feel like I'm stagnating and like art maybe isn't for me? I've been drawing since I was 14 and sure I've improved in those years but it feels like it's not enough? Honestly I don't know if my art is even good at this point, I love to make art but it's like i'm too much of an perfectionist to even enjoy it to the fullest?

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At 5/29/25 05:24 AM, LilFangs wrote:Hope it's okay to butt in, I just feel like I'm stagnating and like art maybe isn't for me? I've been drawing since I was 14 and sure I've improved in those years but it feels like it's not enough? Honestly I don't know if my art is even good at this point, I love to make art but it's like i'm too much of an perfectionist to even enjoy it to the fullest?


Well if its any consolation I think your arts really cute! I like it alot!


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