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Discouraged Artists’ Support Group

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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-27 00:57:13


At 3/27/25 12:43 AM, Thetageist wrote:I’m sorta feeling better now, but I wanted to post anyway so that I would get responses for the next time I get these thoughts.

Sometimes I wonder why I even stay here if I’m not really needed and don’t have a purpose on this website. My prime of popularity is already past me, I’m not as well-liked as I used to be, and I don’t have much to do anymore except post art and sit around on the BBS. Am I just useless now? Irrelevant? Worse than irrelevant?


Well, this is a community, we are here to interact with each other and have fun together. Of course I get that as artists we want to become famous and popular and be recognized by our efforts, but at the end Newgrounds exists as a community and is built to be the place were we share our thoughts and interests with others as if they were good friends. I'm pretty sure many people still find the thoughts you have shared in many threads interesting and helpful


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-27 01:57:36


At 3/24/25 09:25 PM, RedNSpice wrote:One of my biggest problems I have had is when I was able to spend more time on art I had a lot of artists friends on twitter and it was really fun and that kind of community experience motivated me so much! but that discord server died about when I went to college, and while I still made art it wasn't as often, probably a big burst of art in the summer and winter breaks. After college I got back into my illustration work and haven't been able to find a community or group of artists like that again and it has kinda dampened my mood. I got nobody to critique or exchange content with :T


I feel this deeply. I hung around an overall apathetic community for a while and in hindsight I'm really glad I fell out with them since the experience of people being around and not really caring about my work was maybe worse than just having nobody around at all.


It helps so much to have people to bounce ideas off of and gas you up. I think a lot of people like to put on a brave face about doing art for themselves, but also as humans we're social creatures and need that validation from time to time.


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-27 02:20:15


You ever want to post something but you know that art threads barely get reactions and don’t know where else is appropriate to post them? Thats how I’ve been feeling when I gave up on my art thread. It’s like the having a job vs not having a job meme

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-27 07:20:33


At 3/27/25 02:20 AM, SpicyShark wrote:You ever want to post something but you know that art threads barely get reactions and don’t know where else is appropriate to post them? Thats how I’ve been feeling when I gave up on my art thread. It’s like the having a job vs not having a job meme


I guess the next place to look is the Clubs and Crews forum. There’s some groups available for artists who want to share each other’s art, OCs, etc. Maybe that’ll help.


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-27 09:16:39


At 3/27/25 12:43 AM, Thetageist wrote:I’m sorta feeling better now, but I wanted to post anyway so that I would get responses for the next time I get these thoughts.

Sometimes I wonder why I even stay here if I’m not really needed and don’t have a purpose on this website. My prime of popularity is already past me, I’m not as well-liked as I used to be, and I don’t have much to do anymore except post art and sit around on the BBS. Am I just useless now? Irrelevant? Worse than irrelevant?


Yeah, back to the same feelings now. Aside from friends that I can still contact on Discord, I get the feeling that nobody would really miss me if I left.


Someone please help me revive my clubs

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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-27 13:32:27


I don’t feel like I’m worthy enough to do any actual payed art. I gotta try to keep my head up and work hard. I’m sick of being stagnant on my art.

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-27 14:34:43


At 3/27/25 01:32 PM, VioletGJ wrote:I don’t feel like I’m worthy enough to do any actual payed art. I gotta try to keep my head up and work hard. I’m sick of being stagnant on my art.


Hey, use those commissions as a way to get better. That’s why I really liked doing art trades for a while - having different characters to draw helped me expand my skill, and I would try to go the extra mile with a new and interesting style to present the OC in so that the gift art would be truly unique.


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-27 22:58:24


At 3/27/25 09:16 AM, Thetageist wrote:
At 3/27/25 12:43 AM, Thetageist wrote:I’m sorta feeling better now, but I wanted to post anyway so that I would get responses for the next time I get these thoughts.

Sometimes I wonder why I even stay here if I’m not really needed and don’t have a purpose on this website. My prime of popularity is already past me, I’m not as well-liked as I used to be, and I don’t have much to do anymore except post art and sit around on the BBS. Am I just useless now? Irrelevant? Worse than irrelevant?

Yeah, back to the same feelings now. Aside from friends that I can still contact on Discord, I get the feeling that nobody would really miss me if I left.


Just a word of comfort: From the way you give out such thoughtful responses, I think this place definitely would feel... Emptier, for a lack of better word.


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-28 23:21:28


If possible, I'd like some advice on artistic style. I always feel nervous when drawing and struggle to express myself freely, which often makes my work seem generic. I really want to create something bold and amazing instead of just playing it safe, but I can't seem to overcome this mental block. Any tips?


At 3/28/25 11:21 PM, MTKKT wrote:If possible, I'd like some advice on artistic style. I always feel nervous when drawing and struggle to express myself freely, which often makes my work seem generic. I really want to create something bold and amazing instead of just playing it safe, but I can't seem to overcome this mental block. Any tips?


Bold and amazing require more than what you can trivially summon up in an afternoon. You're young, and youre skilled, I can tell from your art that you have what it takes to perform the physical part of the art. You need to start thinking now, not about something as trivial as what style youre drawing in, but what you want to evoke in the person beholding your art.


You have power over the person who is looking at your art, not complete control, but almost all of it is yours. What do you want to make people feel? How does how you feel relate? How do you get the reaction out of people that you want? How intense do you want that feeling to be? I find that its easiest to get the audience to feel something that you feel yourself, because you understand what it takes to make that feeling appear in front of you to show to others.


Trying to evoke a feeling that you yourself have never felt before probably wont work, or it will be really weak.


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Sinister grace?


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loss?


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fear?


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graceless lust?


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something without a name?


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awe?


What feelings have you picked up in your life that you can channel into your art? Force people to feel?

Another thing these things all have in common is a level of technical mastery. Technical mastery isnt a hard requirement to have in order to force people to feel things, but the better you are at art the more control you have over how you can make somebody else feel.


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-30 18:19:55


At 3/28/25 11:39 PM, Template88 wrote:Bold and amazing require more than what you can trivially summon up in an afternoon. You're young, and youre skilled, I can tell from your art that you have what it takes to perform the physical part of the art. You need to start thinking now, not about something as trivial as what style youre drawing in, but what you want to evoke in the person beholding your art.

You have power over the person who is looking at your art, not complete control, but almost all of it is yours. What do you want to make people feel? How does how you feel relate? How do you get the reaction out of people that you want? How intense do you want that feeling to be? I find that its easiest to get the audience to feel something that you feel yourself, because you understand what it takes to make that feeling appear in front of you to show to others.

What feelings have you picked up in your life that you can channel into your art? Force people to feel?


Oh man that reminds me that I've been wanting to portray stuff like wonder, nostalgia, and maybe sadness for a while now. No idea where to start other than using a lot of blue lol :P

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-30 18:37:42


At 3/30/25 06:19 PM, FunnyPlush wrote:
At 3/28/25 11:39 PM, Template88 wrote:Bold and amazing require more than what you can trivially summon up in an afternoon. You're young, and youre skilled, I can tell from your art that you have what it takes to perform the physical part of the art. You need to start thinking now, not about something as trivial as what style youre drawing in, but what you want to evoke in the person beholding your art.

You have power over the person who is looking at your art, not complete control, but almost all of it is yours. What do you want to make people feel? How does how you feel relate? How do you get the reaction out of people that you want? How intense do you want that feeling to be? I find that its easiest to get the audience to feel something that you feel yourself, because you understand what it takes to make that feeling appear in front of you to show to others.

What feelings have you picked up in your life that you can channel into your art? Force people to feel?

Oh man that reminds me that I've been wanting to portray stuff like wonder, nostalgia, and maybe sadness for a while now. No idea where to start other than using a lot of blue lol :P


you can approach art often times a lot like how you approach cooking. look at a recipe (use a reference) study people who are successful at what you want to do, copy their recipe and add your own ingredients to suit your taste.


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-30 20:22:07


At 3/30/25 06:37 PM, Template88 wrote:
At 3/30/25 06:19 PM, FunnyPlush wrote:
At 3/28/25 11:39 PM, Template88 wrote:Bold and amazing require more than what you can trivially summon up in an afternoon. You're young, and youre skilled, I can tell from your art that you have what it takes to perform the physical part of the art. You need to start thinking now, not about something as trivial as what style youre drawing in, but what you want to evoke in the person beholding your art.

You have power over the person who is looking at your art, not complete control, but almost all of it is yours. What do you want to make people feel? How does how you feel relate? How do you get the reaction out of people that you want? How intense do you want that feeling to be? I find that its easiest to get the audience to feel something that you feel yourself, because you understand what it takes to make that feeling appear in front of you to show to others.

What feelings have you picked up in your life that you can channel into your art? Force people to feel?

Oh man that reminds me that I've been wanting to portray stuff like wonder, nostalgia, and maybe sadness for a while now. No idea where to start other than using a lot of blue lol :P

you can approach art often times a lot like how you approach cooking. look at a recipe (use a reference) study people who are successful at what you want to do, copy their recipe and add your own ingredients to suit your taste.


and how would I find said reference? looking up "sad art" on google or something?

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-30 20:25:32


At 3/30/25 08:22 PM, FunnyPlush wrote:
At 3/30/25 06:37 PM, Template88 wrote:
At 3/30/25 06:19 PM, FunnyPlush wrote:
At 3/28/25 11:39 PM, Template88 wrote:Bold and amazing require more than what you can trivially summon up in an afternoon. You're young, and youre skilled, I can tell from your art that you have what it takes to perform the physical part of the art. You need to start thinking now, not about something as trivial as what style youre drawing in, but what you want to evoke in the person beholding your art.

You have power over the person who is looking at your art, not complete control, but almost all of it is yours. What do you want to make people feel? How does how you feel relate? How do you get the reaction out of people that you want? How intense do you want that feeling to be? I find that its easiest to get the audience to feel something that you feel yourself, because you understand what it takes to make that feeling appear in front of you to show to others.

What feelings have you picked up in your life that you can channel into your art? Force people to feel?

Oh man that reminds me that I've been wanting to portray stuff like wonder, nostalgia, and maybe sadness for a while now. No idea where to start other than using a lot of blue lol :P

you can approach art often times a lot like how you approach cooking. look at a recipe (use a reference) study people who are successful at what you want to do, copy their recipe and add your own ingredients to suit your taste.

and how would I find said reference? looking up "sad art" on google or something?


You can try searching for "melancholic artstyle" or "sad mood art". You can even try searching for specific color palettes, like a Sad color palette (as you probably already know, certain colors mixed give different conotations and sensations)


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At 3/30/25 08:22 PM, FunnyPlush wrote:
and how would I find said reference? looking up "sad art" on google or something?


You could have an “inspiration” folder of art you like with different moods! Or to have art “goals”. I started doing it back in highschool and if I ever couldn’t think of a clear way to communicate my ideas, or make a composition, or w/e, I’d go through that folder. I still kinda do that via reposts and my spouse does it with instagram bookmarks. Just curating art with vibes you like


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-31 10:37:37


At 3/28/25 11:21 PM, MTKKT wrote:If possible, I'd like some advice on artistic style. I always feel nervous when drawing and struggle to express myself freely, which often makes my work seem generic. I really want to create something bold and amazing instead of just playing it safe, but I can't seem to overcome this mental block. Any tips?


The desire for a style is one of those desires as old as art itself. A lot of it is built up over who you take inspiration from, what you enjoy rendering, and how you push it.


A lot of it can feel like fumbling in the dark but sometimes it takes pure experimentation and studying masters/peers/the world around you to really dig down into what you enjoy making


I think overall don't worry too hard about developing a style fast. I see a lot of artists develop one rendering style then decide that they've hit "their style" so they don't really work on anything else but then stagnate because theyve never learned how to be flexible. So I guess enjoy the journey and making mistakes. People with nice sketchbooks full of finished pieces can't be trusted. Get weird with the stuff that only your eyes will see


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-03-31 16:09:25


At 3/27/25 01:57 AM, GenTrigger wrote:
At 3/24/25 09:25 PM, RedNSpice wrote:One of my biggest problems I have had is when I was able to spend more time on art I had a lot of artists friends on twitter and it was really fun and that kind of community experience motivated me so much! but that discord server died about when I went to college, and while I still made art it wasn't as often, probably a big burst of art in the summer and winter breaks. After college I got back into my illustration work and haven't been able to find a community or group of artists like that again and it has kinda dampened my mood. I got nobody to critique or exchange content with :T

I feel this deeply. I hung around an overall apathetic community for a while and in hindsight I'm really glad I fell out with them since the experience of people being around and not really caring about my work was maybe worse than just having nobody around at all.

It helps so much to have people to bounce ideas off of and gas you up. I think a lot of people like to put on a brave face about doing art for themselves, but also as humans we're social creatures and need that validation from time to time.


It helps so much when you can have people you like and trust who can formulate why it doesn't do what you want it to do or how it can be better. I really want my art to be seen, not due to any "social hierarchy" type shit, but I want it to be seen and enjoyed. I love interacting with people who like my work. I am not selling what I make for the most part, so something that helps is when someone comments and says that the girl I made is so cute! or if the nsfw I made was so hot. That stuff makes me so much more motivated with art too.


Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-04-01 17:14:12


> Barely over 100 followers in nearly 5 years on Newgrounds

> Artworks average about 80 views, used to regularly get hundreds of views

> Most of my friends I met on Newgrounds left for other sites

> Hated by most people left on the Newgrounds forum

> Have never had a single artwork front paged, probably never will

> Descouted 2 years ago without any reason given, still unscoutable to this day

> Mod won't reply to my DMs asking about it

> Incapable of growing a community outside of DeviantArt, despite all my efforts

> Typecast into drawing only "cringe" art as a result

> All my efforts into improving my art quality and expanding into animation wasted, because only my own few followers are capable of seeing my artworks anyway


Yeah, I'd say I'm pretty discouraged. Could do with some support...


Obscure artist and indie game dev who tries as hard as can be. Due to a system error, none of my art appears in the Art Portal, so if you liked any of my art, I really could use some support. Please...


(I'm also LiquidFrogStudios on DeviantArt and Twitter btw.)

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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-04-01 17:53:35


At 4/1/25 05:14 PM, LiquidFreakStudios wrote:> Barely over 100 followers in nearly 5 years on Newgrounds
> Artworks average about 80 views, used to regularly get hundreds of views
> Most of my friends I met on Newgrounds left for other sites
> Hated by most people left on the Newgrounds forum
> Have never had a single artwork front paged, probably never will
> Descouted 2 years ago without any reason given, still unscoutable to this day
> Mod won't reply to my DMs asking about it
> Incapable of growing a community outside of DeviantArt, despite all my efforts
> Typecast into drawing only "cringe" art as a result
> All my efforts into improving my art quality and expanding into animation wasted, because only my own few followers are capable of seeing my artworks anyway

Yeah, I'd say I'm pretty discouraged. Could do with some support...


I don't intend to add to your difficulty, or be dismissive. I noticed that you seem to be putting a lot of your focus on the numbers.

Even people who are big on ng, those numbers arnt as huge as other sites. It's just smaller, and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.

I don't hate you, I've just met you. Im sure theres others thats true for. It can feel really overwhelming, but I think there's still a chance to meet people and form a community. Joining clubs , collabs or games is one way.

I'm sorry that you're going through it. I think shifting the focus to what you enjoy about art/creating will help. Improve for your own sake, if you want, and draw what you like.

Best of luck

Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-04-02 21:23:16


At 4/1/25 05:14 PM, LiquidFreakStudios wrote:> Barely over 100 followers in nearly 5 years on Newgrounds
> Artworks average about 80 views, used to regularly get hundreds of views
> Most of my friends I met on Newgrounds left for other sites
> Hated by most people left on the Newgrounds forum
> Have never had a single artwork front paged, probably never will
> Descouted 2 years ago without any reason given, still unscoutable to this day
> Mod won't reply to my DMs asking about it
> Incapable of growing a community outside of DeviantArt, despite all my efforts
> Typecast into drawing only "cringe" art as a result
> All my efforts into improving my art quality and expanding into animation wasted, because only my own few followers are capable of seeing my artworks anyway

Yeah, I'd say I'm pretty discouraged. Could do with some support...

Using greentext is already pre-emptively reading as cringe ngl


Though seriously. We may have different perspectives on what's important as artists, but numbers and interacting with followers are honestly pretty unimportant in the actual pursuit of art. I try to follow a mindset of "drawing for myself" and posting things online as secondary, maybe tertiary even, and whatever happens online stays online and never travels into my canvas.


Newgrounds itself is also a pretty small/insular community all things considered, so your numbers naturally aren't gonna be high. Also talk to your friends (hypocritical coming from me), they'll understand and at least commiserate with you.


Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-04-02 22:05:55


At 4/1/25 05:14 PM, LiquidFreakStudios wrote:> Barely over 100 followers in nearly 5 years on Newgrounds
> Artworks average about 80 views, used to regularly get hundreds of views
> Most of my friends I met on Newgrounds left for other sites
> Hated by most people left on the Newgrounds forum
> Have never had a single artwork front paged, probably never will
> Descouted 2 years ago without any reason given, still unscoutable to this day
> Mod won't reply to my DMs asking about it
> Incapable of growing a community outside of DeviantArt, despite all my efforts
> Typecast into drawing only "cringe" art as a result
> All my efforts into improving my art quality and expanding into animation wasted, because only my own few followers are capable of seeing my artworks anyway

Yeah, I'd say I'm pretty discouraged. Could do with some support...


im just making an educated guess here but the reason youre likely unscouted is because youre still symbol drawing, which is pretty detrimental to the quality of your artwork despite the attention to presentation you give to your pieces.


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Response to Discouraged Artists’ Support Group 2025-04-03 14:29:26


I decided to give my art thread one more chance and same old same old no one responded. I’m not even that sad about it cause I have so many other alternatives to post my Art but it’s still kinda depressing