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the Ukraine situation

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-01 20:54:26


Hey @tomfulp do you have the Captcha on because of unusual web traffic coming from russia? lol.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-01 21:40:45


At 3/1/22 06:49 PM, DioShiba wrote:Rep. Greene speaks to far-right crowd chanting Putin’s name and faces criticism from other Republicans

Clearly, Trump favored politics looking pretty bad right now


Makes you think: What if Trump was still a president. Would he be helping his friend, Putin, with the invasion in Ukraine?



F*ck Putin the murderer, RIP Alexei Navalny


F*ck SCOTUS

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-01 21:48:28


At 3/1/22 08:54 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:Hey @tomfulp do you have the Captcha on because of unusual web traffic coming from russia? lol.


Interesting coincidence right? We’ve had a general uptick in attacks lately so might not be the post but also might be the post.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-01 22:30:37 (edited 2022-03-01 22:31:48)


At 3/1/22 09:48 PM, TomFulp wrote:
Interesting coincidence right? We’ve had a general uptick in attacks lately so might not be the post but also might be the post.


It might be because of the other thread and your pinned forum wide post for support of Ukraine, if anything see if your host can try and do some mitigation since you don't host the servers physically anymore and find out if it's an attack vector and when it started trickling in.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-01 23:02:26


At 3/1/22 09:48 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 3/1/22 08:54 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:Hey @tomfulp do you have the Captcha on because of unusual web traffic coming from russia? lol.

Interesting coincidence right? We’ve had a general uptick in attacks lately so might not be the post but also might be the post.


I was thinking the same thing... the timing is certainly odd.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-01 23:11:04 (edited 2022-03-01 23:12:42)


At 3/1/22 11:02 PM, Zachary wrote:I was thinking the same thing... the timing is certainly odd.


Well with this thread some obvious newly made accounts with Anti-West rhetoric and conflicting BS since Crimea back in 2014, the site might be on a list for targeting since Narrative curating didnt work now its attacks, right now Reddit just quarantined r/Russia and are probably going to go after r/zengedong and r/Sino next for being propaganda subreddits.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-01 23:59:22


Because of this war in Russia, I will never, NEVER supply equipment from the West, like a computer, on March 1, 2022 in Russia, all the films I expected, such as the new one about Batman, Turning Red and even Sonic the Movie 2, were also banned, and then after this forever, Roskomnadzor will ban all good Western sites such as YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Twitter and even possibly Newgrounds (although who knows)!


In short, 2022 is the worst year of my life, my country is sued like North Korea and Putin is Hitler 2.0

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 01:26:21


At 3/1/22 09:40 PM, RoboHex wrote:
At 3/1/22 06:49 PM, DioShiba wrote:Rep. Greene speaks to far-right crowd chanting Putin’s name and faces criticism from other Republicans

Clearly, Trump favored politics looking pretty bad right now

Makes you think: What if Trump was still a president. Would he be helping his friend, Putin, with the invasion in Ukraine?


If he didn’t help he’d probably keep praising him and refuse to help Ukraine, and insist that Ukraine never helped the IS with anything


Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 01:58:58


At 3/1/22 11:59 PM, VitalikNerd005 wrote:Because of this war in Russia, I will never, NEVER supply equipment from the West, like a computer, on March 1, 2022 in Russia, all the films I expected, such as the new one about Batman, Turning Red and even Sonic the Movie 2, were also banned, and then after this forever, Roskomnadzor will ban all good Western sites such as YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Twitter and even possibly Newgrounds (although who knows)!


i am truly sorry to hear your situation is terrible, and can only hope that circumstances change to where these sanctions can be lifted sooner rather than later


those circumstances are unfortunately "russia leaves ukraine", so i hope that happens soon for both ukraine and russia's sake


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 06:18:18 (edited 2022-03-02 06:23:16)


Maybe we should listen to the people who saw this coming rather than mindlessly beat the drum of escalation?


This exact outcome was predictable but predicting it requires that you listen to your enemies


https://mobile.twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1498491107902062592


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 06:37:03 (edited 2022-03-02 06:48:20)


At 3/2/22 06:18 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:Maybe we should listen to the people who saw this coming rather than mindlessly beat the drum of escalation?

This exact outcome was predictable but predicting it requires that you listen to your enemies

https://mobile.twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1498491107902062592

The person you're Tweeting doesn't exactly look like an impartial source.

I think you're filtering through Twitter for sources that confirms your viewpoint.


EDIT: I'll just throw out this transcript of the Russian journalist Vladimir Pozner from the end of February. who is the last Tweet quoted:


"But the feeling is among most of the people I've spoken to that this whole drumming up of the possibility or the reality of Russia attacking Ukraine is something that the West is interested in and that Russia doesn't want because Russia can win nothing by invading Ukraine. On the contrary, it can lose a lot. Not only would it be a drawn-out guerrilla warfare kind of thing, which Russia cannot really bear. It would be total destruction of any kind of respect for Russia. There's nothing to win and a lot to lose. And there are people who say that's exactly what the West wants."


A lot of these views have soured like milk over a week. Dredging up historic quotes from 2015 is just confirmation bias.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 06:47:11


At 3/2/22 06:37 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 3/2/22 06:18 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:Maybe we should listen to the people who saw this coming rather than mindlessly beat the drum of escalation?

This exact outcome was predictable but predicting it requires that you listen to your enemies

https://mobile.twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1498491107902062592
The person you're Tweeting doesn't exactly look like an impartial source.
I think you're filtering through Twitter for sources that confirms your viewpoint.


He's not even a source, he is a link to other, better, sources. And none of this has to do with the truth of what they are all saying.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 06:53:54 (edited 2022-03-02 06:54:53)


At 3/2/22 06:47 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
At 3/2/22 06:37 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 3/2/22 06:18 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:Maybe we should listen to the people who saw this coming rather than mindlessly beat the drum of escalation?

This exact outcome was predictable but predicting it requires that you listen to your enemies

https://mobile.twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1498491107902062592
The person you're Tweeting doesn't exactly look like an impartial source.
I think you're filtering through Twitter for sources that confirms your viewpoint.

He's not even a source, he is a link to other, better, sources. And none of this has to do with the truth of what they are all saying.


Here's a source of Stephen Cohen's viewpoint on the current events, rather than a 2014 article.


"His army may be able to destroy large parts of the infrastructure of Ukraine, but he would need well over 700,000 occupying troops to actually impose some kind of martial law or a puppet government. I remember only too well the tongue-in-cheek comment when returning troops were asked why we lost the war in Vietnam. As was explained by many vets, we didn’t lose the war, we were just unwilling to commit enough forces to have a soldier every 20 feet to impose a military dictatorship and kill every patriotic Vietnamese person. Certainly, Ukrainians have the same commitment to their nation as the Vietnamese did."


Filtering through stuff on Twitter that confirms your views isn't research.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 09:38:18 (edited 2022-03-02 09:38:28)


At 3/2/22 06:47 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
Stuff


Dude you need to learn to stop and think before you post, your talking points are crap and aren't helping the ongoing conversation.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 09:57:57 (edited 2022-03-02 10:24:57)


At 3/2/22 09:38 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:
At 3/2/22 06:47 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
Stuff

Dude you need to learn to stop and think before you post, your talking points are crap and aren't helping the ongoing conversation.


I said it before I’ll say it again, I’m convinced he’s doing all this to troll everyone.


EDIT: Even if he's just some kid who's full of himself and that's not the intent, there is a time when flat out virtue signaling and incoherent rambling borderlines into trolling. Part of the reason why it feels like it crossed into that point is because based on other behaviors that are notable is how he has posted memes that conform to his views without any actual context earlier on to provoke a response and he'll often sleep react to nearly everything he disagrees with.


Frankly what is tough to understand is why we all feel that we should try and keep reasoning with him when he's insisting he can do no wrong after getting called out for it and doubling down on it.


To me personally that just makes me feel like he's intending to start a flame war and that's why I blocked him for that reason (I also thought he had been posting through an alt account until I realized that wasn’t the case.)

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 11:31:34


At 3/1/22 08:53 PM, Tony-DarkGrave


oh shit its bad when Texas and California start working together, be right back I need to check the temperature in Hell!


this is one very weird timeline.

isnt it lovely when everybody works together though?

i mean, people are dying and theres war and all, but you gotta enjoy the little things.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 11:39:43 (edited 2022-03-02 11:43:39)


-Turkey has closed the Bosphorus Strait to Russia which means that part of the Russian navy is stuck in the Black Sea.

-The UK has banned ALL RUSSIAN SHIPS from UK harbors and possibly soon even waters!

-EU looking to ban all Russian ships from EU ports

-Russian Ruble plunges for third day straight worth less than one American cent per Ruble!


If Denmark bans all Russian ship from her waters this that means Russian Navy is pretty much stuck in the Baltic and Black Seas and banning all Russian flagged and connected ships will stop import/export.


Looks like I'm getting close to calling it @gario!

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 12:32:31


The result of vote of United Nations General Assembly on condemning Russia's invasion, too bad it is not legally binding:

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Русский военный корабль, иди нахуй!

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 12:35:04 (edited 2022-03-02 12:36:21)


At 3/2/22 09:57 AM, DioShiba wrote:
I said it before I’ll say it again, I’m convinced he’s doing all this to troll everyone.


he's one of our resident fascists on here, it's not surprising that he'd throw his weight supporting the fascist actions of putin


plenty on the far right support putin, ranging from fuentes to carlson, it's not really a surprise


he's pretty consistent in his beliefs; he's not a troll as far as i can tell


At 3/2/22 11:39 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:
Looks like I'm getting close to calling it @gario!


never doubted you for a second, here


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 12:55:36


At 3/2/22 12:35 PM, Gario wrote:never doubted you for a second, here


All you had to do was look at the maps it's geopolitics 101 baby! And the Ruble is about to go into free fall, foreign reserves abroad have been frozen or seized and Putins froze all foreign Forex and currency exchanges and raising the interest rates and postponing the redemption of various government based bonds to try and shore it up but right now the ruble is floundering due to these policies and people taking advantage of the flucations but once that's over it's going to be complete financial collapse after the SWIFT ban and Supply chain issues take hold.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 13:42:32


Several options how to help main Polish humanitarian organizations that take care of Ukrainian Refugees.


Русский военный корабль, иди нахуй!

And release [the Leopards-done] ATACMS & F-16s!

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 13:48:18


At 3/1/22 05:57 PM, Gario wrote:
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: america is in fact not involved with the minsk agreement
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: at all


I would respect your opinion, but you are so blatantly incorrect about everything i'm just going to assume you don't know much about this conflict. What happened to you? You used to have much higher quality posts lol. This


: : Especially when the widespread evidence of their arming and under the table alliance with NATO
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: there is precisely zero evidence for this
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is pure denialism to the tenth degree. Edy/Zac tier nonsense. There is zero evidence for us arming Ukraine? Okay. Whatever you say, man.


Biden administration announces $125M military aid package for Ukraine (nbcnews.com)


Washington Quietly Increases Lethal Weapons to Ukraine | Cato Institute


Trump admin approves new sale of anti-tank weapons to Ukraine - ABC News (go.com)


The U.S. Army’s Iron Dome could be headed to Ukraine- POLITICO


And zero evidence for a de facto NATO alliance?


US troops participate in military exercise in Ukraine days before major Russian war game | CNN Politics


Ukraine-led Rapid Trident exercise to increase U.S., NATO interoperability - UPI.com


U.S. Troops Training Ukrainian Soldiers, Mattis Says > U.S. Department of Defense > Defense Department News


Choose to ignore it all you want, it doesn't make it any less true. The US is involved. Heavily.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 14:49:49


At 3/2/22 01:48 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
I would respect your opinion, but you are so blatantly incorrect about everything i'm just going to assume you don't know much about this conflict. What happened to you? You used to have much higher quality posts lol. This

is pure denialism to the tenth degree. Edy/Zac tier nonsense. There is zero evidence for us arming Ukraine? Okay. Whatever you say, man.

Biden administration announces $125M military aid package for Ukraine (nbcnews.com)

Washington Quietly Increases Lethal Weapons to Ukraine | Cato Institute

Trump admin approves new sale of anti-tank weapons to Ukraine - ABC News (go.com)

The U.S. Army’s Iron Dome could be headed to Ukraine- POLITICO

And zero evidence for a de facto NATO alliance?

US troops participate in military exercise in Ukraine days before major Russian war game | CNN Politics

Ukraine-led Rapid Trident exercise to increase U.S., NATO interoperability - UPI.com

U.S. Troops Training Ukrainian Soldiers, Mattis Says > U.S. Department of Defense > Defense Department News

Choose to ignore it all you want, it doesn't make it any less true. The US is involved. Heavily.


Denial? We are not the ones who are taking a contarian view, out of spite for the current Democrat govermnet, to come to the defense of a foreign dictator, who just wanted to take over another country, killing civilians, to appease his ego. While the country he is attacking wants to defend themselves from him.


The rivalry between Russia and the West has been around for decades, because both sides use it for their own benefit - not just one. And Russia has constantly attacked the US through cyber attacks, and other means, so they are anything but a victim to defend


Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 15:08:45 (edited 2022-03-02 15:12:14)


https://qrius.com/wolfowitz-doctrine-us-russia/amp/



That is how the Wolfowitz Doctrine—named by Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Paul Wolfowitz, later the prophet of George W. Bush’s neoconservatives—was developed amid the end of the Cold War. 

The Doctrine deemed the US as the world’s only remaining superpower and proclaimed its main objective to be retaining that status. Its first objective was “to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union.”

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 15:18:54


At 3/2/22 12:35 PM, Gario wrote:
At 3/2/22 09:57 AM, DioShiba wrote:
I said it before I’ll say it again, I’m convinced he’s doing all this to troll everyone.
he's one of our resident fascists on here, it's not surprising that he'd throw his weight supporting the fascist actions of putin

and to think that @GenericDungeonSlime was interested in being a mod. probably should learn to be less of a snowflake first but when have fascists known to be consistent lmao

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 15:23:08


At 3/2/22 01:48 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
I would respect your opinion, but you are so blatantly incorrect about everything i'm just going to assume you don't know much about this conflict. What happened to you? You used to have much higher quality posts lol. This

is pure denialism to the tenth degree. Edy/Zac tier nonsense. There is zero evidence for us arming Ukraine? Okay. Whatever you say, man.

Biden administration announces $125M military aid package for Ukraine (nbcnews.com)

Washington Quietly Increases Lethal Weapons to Ukraine | Cato Institute

Trump admin approves new sale of anti-tank weapons to Ukraine - ABC News (go.com)

The U.S. Army’s Iron Dome could be headed to Ukraine- POLITICO

And zero evidence for a de facto NATO alliance?

US troops participate in military exercise in Ukraine days before major Russian war game | CNN Politics

Ukraine-led Rapid Trident exercise to increase U.S., NATO interoperability - UPI.com

U.S. Troops Training Ukrainian Soldiers, Mattis Says > U.S. Department of Defense > Defense Department News

Choose to ignore it all you want, it doesn't make it any less true. The US is involved. Heavily.


You can post all the links you want, but none of them say that America is involved with the Minsk agreements.


I'll link this again and recommend reading through it before talking about the Minsk agreements. That is the BARE minimum amount of research and one of the things you will learn that America is not a signatory on the agreements.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 17:13:51 (edited 2022-03-02 17:15:20)


At 3/2/22 01:48 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
I would respect your opinion, but you are so blatantly incorrect about everything i'm just going to assume you don't know much about this conflict.


i probably know more than you suspect, but that's fine, to each one's own


There is zero evidence for us arming Ukraine? Okay. Whatever you say, man.

And zero evidence for a de facto NATO alliance?


can't argue with the evidence


so ukraine and nato were allies and helping supply arms to ukraine, then, that's cool and based


deferring to zachary on how relevant this is to the main topic:


At 3/2/22 03:23 PM, Zachary wrote:
You can post all the links you want, but none of them say that America is involved with the Minsk agreements.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 19:11:50 (edited 2022-03-02 19:16:50)


At 3/2/22 03:18 PM, Gimmick wrote:
At 3/2/22 12:35 PM, Gario wrote:
At 3/2/22 09:57 AM, DioShiba wrote:
I said it before I’ll say it again, I’m convinced he’s doing all this to troll everyone.
he's one of our resident fascists on here, it's not surprising that he'd throw his weight supporting the fascist actions of putin
and to think that @GenericDungeonSlime was interested in being a mod. probably should learn to be less of a snowflake first but when have fascists known to be consistent lmao


He’d never make a good moderator, I implied it once in the thread Tom made regarding closing the politics forum now I’m going say it directly.


That should be obvious at this point in time.


At this point I’m just waiting to see all that double talk and snide remarks he’s pulling turn into flat out insults.


At 3/2/22 12:32 PM, HerbieG wrote:The result of vote of United Nations General Assembly on condemning Russia's invasion, too bad it is not legally binding:


even with all the countries that are absent on this it shouldn’t be a surprise that no one agrees with Putin, save for Saudi Arabia.


then again the latter has its own issues more than anything

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 19:27:57


Russian Economy possible to meltdown soon, with the rouble falling in devaluation and inflation and sanctions with international companies moving out of Russia international Credit Bureaus are looking to downgrade Russia and start removing BILLIONS of Russian debt out of investment-grade bond indexes.


this is going to make Russia go from a Second World country to a Third World economically like North Korea.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-03-02 19:49:15


At 3/2/22 07:27 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:Russian Economy possible to meltdown soon, with the rouble falling in devaluation and inflation and sanctions with international companies moving out of Russia international Credit Bureaus are looking to downgrade Russia and start removing BILLIONS of Russian debt out of investment-grade bond indexes.

this is going to make Russia go from a Second World country to a Third World economically like North Korea.


It’s making less and less sense to why Putin is gambling his country’s status to that level the more this conflict unfolds.


What is the payoff if he succeeds in this anyways? Just more territory and more of a reason for the world to tell Putin to go fuck himself? It’s like he knows his days are numbered and he wants to bring everyone down with him.