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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-06 18:08:34


At 5/4/24 09:35 PM, kacaropee wrote:appeal details


I just saw this was not resolved. Sorry about the delay! Here's what happened. You accidentally closed your appeal. Don't worry. You're not alone. The UI there is kind of hard to understand.


Tom has promised an update to fix this in the future. It may take a while.


Also I should mention, just because you got your samples from a royalty free site doesn't mean they're royalty free -- if they came from one of those free sites like SampleFocus. You gotta be careful. I found a sample the other week on a site ripped straight from a Drake track. Your track was clearly a false positive though as I didn't recognize any of the samples. You're also not alone there.


There's only one more thing to be potentially concerned about regarding your music, saying this based on your appeal deets only -- and that is whether your song is purely based of samples or loops or not. If it is, you can remove it, and no action will be taken against you. If it is, you will likely be flagged and banned, if not now then down the road when someone discovers it.


How to never have that problem: As a rule of thumb, at least 50% of your composition should be written, performed, and/or owned by you as your intellectual property. Royalty free doesn't mean the IP is your creation/you have rights to it. However, 50% your work and 50% royalty free samples is ok. Drum loops are almost always ok as long as they are not ripped from copyrighted property and no violation of sample producers' terms are made.


For any more considerations, see the AP rules.

https://www.newgrounds.com/wiki/help-information/terms-of-use/audio-guidelines


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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-07 10:39:53


At 5/5/24 01:56 AM, Yatsufusa wrote:@MohamedTBER You seem very intent to read a lot of information into my post that was never there in the first place. Suddenly it's "Christianity", "Muslims and Pro-Palestinians", "moral state of my religion"... It's clear to me that this is not about the removal of your submissions - you are looking for a platform to spread your paranoia.
Whether you do so consciously or subconsciously makes no difference to me. At least to me, your background is of no relevance. The choices you made speak so much louder than your words here. Your actions aren't the ones of a thinking adult but those of an angry child.

People were killed by a terrorist group/organization/whatever you want to call them and from what I can gather after the fact, you weren't exactly critical of their actions, to say the least. We are talking of real life murder here. Not a fan of that... Not a fan of lazy plagiarism either. Again: That is what got you into trouble. And if you could stop being butthurt about somebody who is critical of your believes* (after you felt the need to bring them into play yourself), then you might even be able to see the very constructive advice ADR3-N is giving you some posts above. Despite disagreeing with you, they have been offering you expert advice on how do do better. If that isn't the action of a nurturing role-model I don't know what is. So yeah: Hard to be critical of that kind of behavior.

* believes which are completely unrelated to aforementioned lazy plagiarism I might add


Indeed, as God said in the Quran, hypocrites are allies of each others.


If you do not want me to use words that expose hypocrisy and misinformation, then do not open doors you do not dare to walk through from the beginning. Do not be fanatic with your allies who share disbelief with you.


Since the start, I have criticized the policy. However, you turned it into a dogmatic conflict that was started with the person you said he advised me. I do not care about their advice when it is presented in an offensive format. I must defend my religion. You tried to work around my criticism of your policy by attacking my beliefs, which is unprofessional. Discussing terrorism does not need to bring out religion and start lecturing others. Since it happened, I had to respond the same way. If there is something wrong, it is from the person who started this first.


Look, you try to interpret my appeal as infantile to coddle your brainwashed allies. You could not bear someone to discuss you deeply with your corrupted racist policies. If I am a child, I would cry and beg you to unremove my songs. I would not act like: I don't care about being banned from the Audio Portal even permanently, nor about deleting all my songs. YouTube, a much more popular and professional platform, has been less aggressive. People use acapellas with attribution and sometimes without sharing a cent of money there.


You are not here to teach me a lesson about respecting DMCA. I am already using the work of Muslims, not of materialistic disbelievers. So they won't contact you about me; don't worry. The songs exist in SoundCloud and YouTube since a year, and no one submitted a copyrighted strike. We Muslims are not avaricious. We Muslims cooperate with each other, and I have sent the song you just removed to the copyright holder himself. He did not appeal nor disagree, but I guess the mods took the chance to revenge on me without asking me if I had the permission or not.


It is just ironic how you try to follow DMCA order then suggest for me to sing the vocals myself. Okay, singing it with myself, and what about lyrics? Aren't they copyrighted? You just feel self-confident by practicing hegemony on others, and I wished you discussed it with me first. What to expect from someone who thinks negatively of someone just because he is different in religion? I gave you the chance and have been polite in my appeal. You are the ones to blame, but as hypocrites, you cannot relinquish your bubbled dignity to acknowledge your faults and refine your aggressive policies.


In the end, I would like to say I have nothing to lose even if you punished me even more just because I expose your ideological and political corruption. I just tried to gain merits from God by advising you at least to change your aggressive policies not necessarily to join Islam (You don't need to be Muslim to support Palestine, you need just to be a bare minimal human). Paradise is guaranteed for me as long as I stay a committed believer unlike you who dedicated your life to liberal hypocrisy (who does not promise you anything after you die as if you are just a chemical scum) ignoring the signs and proof of Islam's exclusive validity. Also, I can spread awareness in other more publicly accessible places anyway. The very-end signification is to follow my religion all the way, and you cannot teach me to be fully-secular or rather hypocrite to deny the bitter facts by only flagging HMS attack as terrorism. But IL attacks, oppression, and blockading are not flagged to you as terrorism. In the end, enjoy your luck, the ends are what count. See you in the afterlife. I will no longer talk to you nor publish something in this hypocritical platform because you confirmed your hypocrisy and racism against Palestinians and Muslims who blow ashes in your crocodilian eyes.


Sura Al-Baqara 2 : 130

وَمَنْ يَرْغَبُ عَنْ مِلَّةِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ إِلَّا مَنْ سَفِهَ نَفْسَهُ ۚ وَلَقَدِ اصْطَفَيْنَاهُ فِي الدُّنْيَا ۖ وَإِنَّهُ فِي الْآخِرَةِ لَمِنَ الصَّالِحِينَ

And who would be averse to the religion of Abraham except one who makes a fool of himself. And We had chosen him in this world, and indeed he, in the Hereafter, will be among the righteous.

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-07 10:53:54 (edited 2024-05-07 11:00:07)


At 5/7/24 10:39 AM, MohamedTBER wrote:too long to quote on mobile


The reason for your ban perfectly explains why your remaining songs were removed. You directly sampled the acapellas without acquiring a license to use the master recording. Even "professional" YT can remove your songs for this, but they generally transfer royalties to the label which holds the rights.


We unfortunately don't have such royalty systems in place and would end up facing legal action in such a case as yours. Of course we removed it.


You MUST cover the songs, if you want them here. And even then you must purchase a cover license, which the artist is legally required to grant (unlike a license to use the original recording). Everyone is legally required to do this in the case of a copywrited cover or remix. Just because you are Muslim does not mean you get special treatment.


I myself must pay these licenses for my own covers and remixes too, so stop whining, learn about how music licensing works and come back. Your behavior is only reinforcing your ban, not to mention reflecting badly on your parents training, and esp. the religion you are so desperately trying to defend.


There is nothing wrong with religious work on Newgrounds, or Arabic language music. The problem is you feel the rules do not apply to you.


Ps: using Suno AI for your music is a bad look. Learn how to make music. We don't allow AI garbage here either. You can use it for ideas, not just post it.


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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-08 07:07:32


HI, I was unscouted due to unknown reason, and I haven't received a single notification about this. Was i unscouted because i break some rule? If no, what is the reason? Can i be re-scouted?

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-08 23:12:48


ah okay thanks

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-09 00:41:56 (edited 2024-05-09 00:46:22)


At 5/8/24 07:07 AM, pxlusphonk wrote:[Scouting questions & deletion of accidental posts]


Generally, Audio appeals and scouting are two completely different topics. You (and maybe others reading this) might find these links helpful:

Newgrounds' General Help / FAQ

Ornery's Handy Dandy Scouting Guide


As for the post deletion:

In a nutshell: Only forum moderators and Tom Fulp can delete your posts. (To avoid weird spam & insults without leaving flagable proof, perhaps...)

The best person to contact in your case would be @Pingu who is basically involved in everything this threat touches. :)


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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-09 06:54:25


At 5/8/24 07:07 AM, pxlusphonk wrote:HI, I was unscouted due to unknown reason, and I haven't received a single notification about this. Was i unscouted because i break some rule? If no, what is the reason? Can i be re-scouted?


A lot of your recent songs have been remixes and it's unclear if you have rights to the source material. Can you provide more information about the bands behind the songs you are remixing and were the songs no-copyright or royalty-free, or did you have licenses to remix them?


Working on Nightmare Cops!

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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-09 13:13:07


At 5/9/24 06:54 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 5/8/24 07:07 AM, pxlusphonk wrote:HI, I was unscouted due to unknown reason, and I haven't received a single notification about this. Was i unscouted because i break some rule? If no, what is the reason? Can i be re-scouted?

A lot of your recent songs have been remixes and it's unclear if you have rights to the source material. Can you provide more information about the bands behind the songs you are remixing and were the songs no-copyright or royalty-free, or did you have licenses to remix them?


forgive me for jumping in or speaking on op's behalf (i'm trying not to do either), but it looks like this remix is of a charting (copyrighted) song from a popular swedish alt-metal band. i'm unsure about the rest as i dont know the original artists of the remixed songs, but from light research i've been able to find that at least?


carrd (i dont take commissions...yet)


i'm probably playing persona 3 reload

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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-10 05:46:06 (edited 2024-05-10 05:49:27)


Hi, I submitted my appeal, I created a remix of a song in which you could download the vocals and use it in your own ( I only used the vocals), as long as you credited the artist. When I went to check on it and it said that the appeal was closed, could I be informed what happened?

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-10 10:50:17 (edited 2024-05-10 10:58:18)


At 5/10/24 10:38 AM, YendorNG wrote:
At 5/10/24 05:46 AM, Genozen wrote:Hi, I submitted my appeal, I created a remix of a song in which you could download the vocals and use it in your own ( I only used the vocals), as long as you credited the artist. When I went to check on it and it said that the appeal was closed, could I be informed what happened?

Link the license, please?


Hi, there is no license, unfortunately, just what it said in the description of the original song : https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/866873

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-10 12:18:38 (edited 2024-05-10 12:24:08)


At 5/10/24 12:08 PM, YendorNG wrote:
At 5/10/24 10:50 AM, Genozen wrote:
At 5/10/24 10:38 AM, YendorNG wrote:
At 5/10/24 05:46 AM, Genozen wrote:Hi, I submitted my appeal, I created a remix of a song in which you could download the vocals and use it in your own ( I only used the vocals), as long as you credited the artist. When I went to check on it and it said that the appeal was closed, could I be informed what happened?

Link the license, please?

Hi, there is no license, unfortunately, just what it said in the description of the original song : https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/866873

Yes, I see the stipulation, however:

Assuming you correctly issued an identical license (ie, the same options the original artist used):


No, I didn't use any loops because of this exact situation I'm trying to avoid, and I just used the vocals, nothing else.

I couldn't even post the song. While I was putting in the description and license, I got blocked and messaged by P-bot.

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-11 10:27:06


At 5/9/24 06:54 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 5/8/24 07:07 AM, pxlusphonk wrote:HI, I was unscouted due to unknown reason, and I haven't received a single notification about this. Was i unscouted because i break some rule? If no, what is the reason? Can i be re-scouted?

A lot of your recent songs have been remixes and it's unclear if you have rights to the source material. Can you provide more information about the bands behind the songs you are remixing and were the songs no-copyright or royalty-free, or did you have licenses to remix them?


All the authors have allowed me to use my remixes of their songs for non-commercial purposes, but i dont have license only for INEY remix.

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-11 21:25:53 (edited 2024-05-11 21:39:00)


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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-11 21:37:55


hi, my songs, which i created, we're blocked without explanation. please unblock mei've had remixes of copyrighted songs, but they don't need to be unlocked. i want my songs to be unlocked

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-12 12:40:16


Hello, @Pingu! I may have done a copyright infringement upon the work of Luka Peharda's "Sunset". I can't upload tracks on Newgrounds anymore.

Would you like to help me?

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-12 13:55:07


I was false banned and have been for well over a year, tried contacting audio mods about this but never got a response so I was told to go here, and thats what I'm doing, I guess.


Reasons I should be unbanned:

  • i have 100 soundcloud followers which means at least some people care about my stuff
  • of course my friend wants me to upload stuff to newgrounds for geometry dash
  • it's literally been a year lol
  • the thing i got banned for was an original song using a free to use vocal loop

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-14 01:17:52


I'm not Luka Peharda... I'm @LakieGD.

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-14 20:57:29


At 5/12/24 01:55 PM, LightningPig wrote:I was false banned and have been for well over a year, tried contacting audio mods about this but never got a response so I was told to go here, and thats what I'm doing, I guess.

Reasons I should be unbanned:


YendorNG is right in the sense that any facts not relating to your rights to use the samples are not at all relevant to your appeal. SoundCloud has basically the same rules as NG. It's just really bad at enforcing them due to overpopulation and scarcity of mods. Your appeal was closed by @LexRodent perhaps because he recognized the exact same sample in the track in question.


I've reopened your appeal, with the caveat that I'd like to see a screen recording of the project if you have that available (you can just pm me an unlisted YT video) and an explanation of some more project details, how it was made, etc. The compositions sound similar and you mention Splice, so what I want to know is how much of the composition is composed of loops and how much of it you wrote in manually.


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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-24 04:51:50


hello,


I got flagged for copyright infringement on my own work. the copyright infringement detected is indeed my own track, i just prefer to also distribute what I make onto NewGrounds and I would like help on figuring out what to do next or if I just need to keep waiting as it has been 6 days where P-Bot's DM was stuck saying "Hang tight! We're just checking your audio!". an extra 3 days after the anticipated 3 days wait time from what i've read elsewhere.


Thanks ahead of time,

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-31 10:28:21


Hello.

One of my audio sumbmission had been flagged, and I closed the appeal. It has been more than three days.

It was copyrighted because in the beginning of the song I used a copyright free sample that someone else had used in their song. The sample is free and anyone can use it. I would still like to be able to post music on newgrounds. Thank you.🩷

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-05-31 21:55:55 (edited 2024-05-31 21:57:54)


Hey so, I tried to upload a cover of Copacabana, not realizing that the instrumental I used was copyrighted. I don't want to post that anymore, I just wanna continue to upload music. It's been 3 days and I deleted my reply, wanting to rewrite it, accidentally closing the appeal. Thanks.


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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-06-01 00:23:03


hi i was a stupid idiot back then and i just straight up stole one song from youtube and said i stole it. years later (aka now) i want to get unbanned. please.

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-06-01 01:14:03


At 5/31/24 09:55 PM, haleyithink wrote:Hey so, I tried to upload a cover of Copacabana, not realizing that the instrumental I used was copyrighted. I don't want to post that anymore, I just wanna continue to upload music. It's been 3 days and I deleted my reply, wanting to rewrite it, accidentally closing the appeal. Thanks.


If you used someone else's instrumental without legal permission from the rights holder (written permission works in most cases) then you cannot host it on NG. But I still recommend remaking the instrumental.


What kind of music do you hope to post to NG besides that


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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-06-01 01:19:25


At 6/1/24 01:14 AM, ADR3-N wrote:
At 5/31/24 09:55 PM, haleyithink wrote:Hey so, I tried to upload a cover of Copacabana, not realizing that the instrumental I used was copyrighted. I don't want to post that anymore, I just wanna continue to upload music. It's been 3 days and I deleted my reply, wanting to rewrite it, accidentally closing the appeal. Thanks.

If you used someone else's instrumental without legal permission from the rights holder (written permission works in most cases) then you cannot host it on NG. But I still recommend remaking the instrumental.

What kind of music do you hope to post to NG besides that


Just original music like I've been doing. I now know not to post covers with stock versions of the instrumental I find online lol

I might make some covers with my own instrumentals though. I don't know but for now, only original music.


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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-06-01 01:20:13 (edited 2024-06-01 01:23:48)


At 6/1/24 01:19 AM, haleyithink wrote:
At 6/1/24 01:14 AM, ADR3-N wrote:
At 5/31/24 09:55 PM, haleyithink wrote:Hey so, I tried to upload a cover of Copacabana, not realizing that the instrumental I used was copyrighted. I don't want to post that anymore, I just wanna continue to upload music. It's been 3 days and I deleted my reply, wanting to rewrite it, accidentally closing the appeal. Thanks.

If you used someone else's instrumental without legal permission from the rights holder (written permission works in most cases) then you cannot host it on NG. But I still recommend remaking the instrumental.

What kind of music do you hope to post to NG besides that

Just original music like I've been doing. I now know not to post covers with stock versions of the instrumental I find online lol
I might make some covers with my own instrumentals though. I don't know but for now, only original music.


I might just not post the cover anymore anyway btw

in case i didn't mention that before


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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-06-02 14:02:23


I lost my scout

Yesterday i uploaded one of my copyrighted tracks (The Ripper)


I follow the rules of audio portal and for that i asked a mod before if "i will lost my scout if i upload a copyrighted track?" and the mod told me that i will never have to worry about that copyright bot when i upload my own work again


Well, i lost it. I need help :c

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-06-02 20:15:13 (edited 2024-06-02 20:19:16)


Hi, I had a hold on my account due to a false copyright claim, and I accidentally closed the appeal, and I have 3 days left before I no longer have the chance to appeal.

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-06-03 11:22:50


At 6/2/24 08:15 PM, YanisMusic wrote:Hi, I had a hold on my account due to a false copyright claim, and I accidentally closed the appeal, and I have 3 days left before I no longer have the chance to appeal.


Don't worry. Your appeals still exist!


I see that you make projects in sound trap. Is there any way you can send me a pm with some information about the loops and or samples you used, share the project with me, etc. Often loops get caught in the copyright checker, and they themselves end up being fine, but sometimes the composition as a whole breaks the rules by being entirely made up of loops


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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-06-03 15:35:49


The (synths and vocals?) I used for that DnB are:

Trill

Logue

Dark Squelch Bass

Trill 3

Vermont Vocals

Keep movin square

Actually, I can send you the project. It's on YT. The name of it is Pyroxylin.

Yanis Ngassam - Pyroxylin [Drum n Bass] (youtube.com)

Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-06-06 08:40:22


Hello! One of our tracks was deleted. We are not upset about it, but we are now marked as unscouted. Can something be done about it?