Ah you too! :D The coconut milk almost feels like the secret ingredient, but any kind of mix tastes great. Awesome to hear it's an international thing. And indeed so simple.

What kind of TVP do you use? Over here Quorn seems the most common these days, second to traditional soy stuff and up-and-coming Oumph! (exclamation mark part of the brand). Pea protein too.

Soy TVP is the one I've become the most accustomed to. I have yet to see other kinds of TVP though, I don't think it's as big in NA (which is funny considering it was invented in the US...)

I think Beyond burgers would contain pea protein TVP? But it's not standalone AFAIK so I don't use it in cooking.

Interesting. Considering it's such a cultural hub you'd think there's more of everything too. You're getting a lot of extra estrogen though huh... noticing any side effects yet? :P

Yeaah that seems to be the main ingredient with Beyond Burgers! Never tried those, but it seems a bit similar to the stuff that's popping up here too. All natural ingredients too!

Have you tried Impossible Burgers? They haven't made their way here I think but the hype sure has. Though seems a bit less healthy.

Oh, look'ee here fam.

I made my favourite Easter snack because .... it's......September.

Bird nest brownies...? Is there an official name for these? Looks delicious.

Seasons don't really seem to mean the same thing this year anyway. All just a continual stream of time gone by, festivities and special occasions a haze of unnotable days... doesn't feel so wrong after all.

Ohhhh they are tasty as hecc. Old school baking recipe I learnt in my childhood!

They aren't too different from your standard chocolate rice crispie or cornflake cakes.

So for these I used..

• 200g of milk chocolate
• About 50g of 100% cocoa
• Around 75g of butter
• 5 shredded wheat, crunched up (don't know what US equivalent might be)
• Mini eggs for decoration.

You're supposed to add golden syrup like you would for the rice crispie cakes but I completely forgot. I think it's about one tablespoon for that quantity.

Also optional would be 25-50g of shredded coconut. Mix about half of it in and then sprinkle the rest on top. I also forgot to buy that lol but they still taste great. Likewise you could use a flavouring of your choice.

Basically melt the choc and butter together. Then crumble in the shredded wheat. Mix it all up and then sculpt them on a greased sheet of baking paper and put in fridge to set. It's fckin easy.

Also you could scoop into little cupcake trays and have smaller ones, with just one or two eggs in.

Ah right, long time since I had some of those, very non-standard treat over here.

• 200g of milk chocolate
• About 50g of 100% cocoa
• Around 75g of butter
• 5 shredded wheat, crunched up (don't know what US equivalent might be)

Even more difficult to know without any measurement at all. ;) Though metric system's fine by me. Dl?

• Mini eggs for decoration.

Suppose you could use oats instead of wheat too as a gluten-free alternative, without the taste changing too much. I'ma try this! Seems simple enough, most ingredients at home already, just need to attain some of those miniature eggs somehow, maybe not so easy now that it's not really Easter...

Tried googling 'bird nest cookies' btw, intriguing noodle alternation on this 'ol classic too: https://www.dinneratthezoo.com/birds-nest-cookies/

I had a moment this week in between grocery shopping where I just had no clue what to eat.

I organized the pantry and found a can of red salmon in the back. I was just going to eat it as was. 385 calories and 45 grams of protein. It would have been a great high protein snack.

Then I realized my cat video device could probably also tell me recipes. A few minutes later I was making Salmon Burgers.

Can of salmon, favorite seasonings, 1 egg, quarter cup of bread crumbs, some gaucamole, cheese, tomatoes, on some slightly toasted wheat bread. Fried them up in a bit of oil on the stove and boom, had two really delicious burgers. Ate one for breakfast with some eggs and one for lunch with some fruit.

They were absolutely delicious. I never would have realized it and it's made me realize I need to use the internet for a bunch of other random things we have in our pantry that we never use.

We have split peas and lentils. Saw a way to air fry them to turn them into a "snack". I'm all for high protein snacks. I'm going to give them a try soon.

Sounds tempting to try too. Only had ready-made salmon burgers before, without bread crumbs, without bread either for that matter; definitely without guacamole! They were great too but this sounds pretty exotic...

Cat video device btw?

Cell phone... lol

Riiight. XD

Was imagining something like a babycam for cats for a minute there...

Wonder if I didn't see this one a few pages back too hmm... seems to be a popular aperitif!

I know you're not really serious but it's phytoestrogen, not estrogen. As far as humans are concerned, it's like saying a carpet is equivalent to a dog because it has the word "pet" in it and is fuzzy.

That said, if I sprout tits then I would still see that as an absolute win too :P

I haven't tried them yet, but as far as food goes though, I'm still a philistine of sorts because I couldn't taste much of an improvement of beyond patties over say, a well-made potato patty, apart from the slightly tougher and chewier texture.

I'd eat scrap metal if it was proven to not cause much harm lol. Organic and natural doesn't mean much as far as I'm concerned - if it's edible and won't make me sick then I'd probably have it lol

Yeah, dunno man. Just 5 of these. They are about palm-sized, internet says 2 weigh 45g? Not a clue, I don't normally eat this cereal or any cereal that often. I try to avoid too much grain-based food for ..reasons.

Yup, none of our local super markets had mini eggs in. Had to go to a specialist sweetshop..but kind of glad I did. They were really nice ones.

Also here is the original recipe. I doubled the quantities, or like 2.5x

Oh that's a thing! Was thinking just regular wheat. Shredded. That'll be a bit more difficult to get a hold of then, texture not as easy to emulate with oats either hmm...

Well. If I try it I'll be sure to post about it. First step either way: those eggs.

Regarding your avoiding cereal though, wonder if it's more so the gluten in it or the fiber? Do you have trouble with stuff like regular cornflakes too? Cutting out gluten can really make a huuuge difference if that's the thing. Changed my life when I cut that shizzle out. Way better digestion. Way more energy. Way better everything basically.

I thought you might've just had some lying around since Easter! Damn man. Commitment.

Thanks, saving this for later...

Partially. ;) I don't know man, phytoestrogen can interact with estrogen receptors in cells too, it's just a lot weaker. Comparing a chihuahua and a great dane may be a bit more suitable a comparison. Or maybe a mouse with an elephant. Unsure of proportional difference. but they do have potentially similar effect, even if the health benefits probably outweigh the potential downsides, and you'll probably need to eat a lot of that stuff for it to impact your hormones in any noticeable way.

I know the old estrogen scare no longer really applies, and phytoestrogen exists in a ton of other stuff I eat plenty of anyway, but that dubiousness has stuck with me somehow, so I do avoid the soy for uncertain reasons and occasionally bring up the estrogen thing as maybe somewhat of an excuse for it!

lmao, genders are a thing of the past now anyway huh. XD To be fair soy does still taste better than any of these other alternative plant-based proteins out there... I stick to quorn since it seems safer, but it's basically fungi they grow on sugar. Doesn't seem ideal when you say it that way either. And pea protein supposedly has a high level of arsenic. Argh, nothing's edible anymore without conscious consequence!

Tried some pulled oats a while back too btw. Not a favorite but not bad either!

Oh. Gotta taste the beyond for comparison sometime then... potatoes are severely underrated though.

lol. Makes me a bit curious why you're pursuing the path of TVP at all though then? Must be a health-related choice to some extent? Or environmental?

I do like food too much to avoid everything that's not good for me but in the long run I'm aiming to be as self-sustained as possible. Grow my own crops. Fish my own fish. Nothing's entirely organic anywhere by way of what we've done to our air and water, but it feels ideal. Maxed out nutrients. Maxed out sense of accomplishment. Maxed out taste too. :)

To each their own! Although soy is probably the king of beans as far as versatility is concerned because that stuff is used to make a LOT of things...

Put another way, which straight person doesn't like tits? :P Like the saying goes, 100% of men are gay as statistically they've played with more dicks in their life...

Eh, fungi's pretty good. Ain't no problem with eating mushrooms right? Or did I miss something...

Wack! Seems like there's a lot of meat alternatives I'm missing out on...

It's cheaper than soy protein isolate per gram of protein despite being made from the same stuff and being imported. Also, it cooks much easier and faster than beans at about the same cost so it's hard to turn down. Now if there were something else that came along that fulfilled those criteria (preparation ease, time and cost) then I'd switch over but none seem to satisfy them all as well as soy TVP does.

Sounds great, all the best with that! That reminds me of J Mantzel a lot...

Definitely agree with that! Feels like soy bean's king when it comes to regular food, and mung bean when it comes to dessert. A little less flavor; good consistency for all types of pastries. Used way more in Eastern cooking but I hope we get more of that influence here. Been making some delicious chocolate mung bean-based cake the last few years.

Haha yeah, awkward beach visits though. XD Would be pretty cool if we could switch up hormones on a day by day basis. Instant transformation, then back to normal, no long-lasting side effects. Though less testosterone would probably disrupt certain other desired bodily functions during aforementioned fun tit-appreciating sessions too...

Yeah but that grown on sugar part. Like how they grow citric acid on black mold...

Even if the new nutrients aren't synonymous with the original food source it feels like it's gotta leave a trace. Like how you are what you eat so do plants become whatever nutrients/sustenence they consume.

Everyone tryn'a turn a profit on the TVP trend at least over here. So many alternatives!

Hmm, was considering that it wouldn't be financially beneficial compared to say fish/meat, but maybe it is cheaper where you live? If you're vegetarian/vegan/such though: is that a health-related decision? Environmental? Humane? A combination thereof?

Personally I'm pescatarian, but weighing the cost between soy-based stuff (which is probably also the cheapest TVP here) and fish, the latter is still a better deal. Pre-cooked vegetarian alternatives are usually hella expensive. Beans may not be cheaper, but vegetables overall definitely are. And grains like oats. It's easy to mince and mix together; make burgers or similar with most ingredients, though definitely time-consuming. If time = money then I guess the cost/preparation ease ratio would weigh in the favor of TVP after all.

Haven't ever seen it as a cheap alternative myself, maybe times are changing...

Btw, GMO, do you mind that? Everything we have here is basically GMO free. Might impact price a bit.

Thanks man. Survivalist inventor hmm... seems like an interesting dude.

She thick 😅

muenster cheese

Does look pretty monstrous!

We gonna need bigger buns!

That's a lot of baking. I bet the house smells divine.

Maybe you could make Kiwi some buns of appropriate size for her burgers.

Is everything starting to run out over there again? I thought the shortages were over since way back at this point...

Regarding the recipe arraignments: in the unlikely event you happen to have any exotic gluten-free recommendations I'd be all ears. :)

All those damn hippies and their banana bread!

Might be worth making a sourdough starter when you do get yeast.

Ontario is kind of teetering into lockdown again. Quebec is all fuckered.

Oh...on the question of gluten from earlier... I do not have celiac disease or anything but my issue is that most grain is GMO. Which is also why the digestion problem happens. The signature is not correct or what your body expects.

I am no nutritionist but I did my reading into this. Turns out, when you eat a lot of GMO the unnatural protein, mineral and fibre structures do not 'feed' your body correctly. For example, GMO food has proteins changed, so it can still grow despite fungal infections and produce massive yield.

The problem there occurs when you ingest this, your body and immune system now has to fight these infections and parasites instead. Which isn't too hard, you're a lot more resilient..but if it's all you ever eat, you can see how this would eventually have a toxic effect. Especially when the nutrients your body looks for aren't there.

Also many GMO and terminator seeds are responsible for decline of bees, colony collapse disorder, because the pollen is not right either. It's like...shooting blanks. Provides nothing that the bees need.

It's nothing to panic about though. Just eat some good biological organic food every now and then. It's not cheap but it'll rebalance your body in a few weeks and after that you'll be fine on the mass-produced stuff for a long while. Repeat as necessary.

Also plant nice heritage seeds, for your bees :)

As you can see, I still eat these things every now and then but there was a time when I ate tons of bread and cereal, every day. Used to suffer really bad acid reflux and stuff because of it. All good now. Listen to your gut!

Also Kiwi that burger tower looks epic lol

Plus I see incoming recipes from Quisty possibly?

I would add these to that list:

https://thenovicechefblog.com/blackberry-pie-bars/

You can use any (stewed) fruit in them.

Don't forget the egg, like I did the first time making them.

I blame the hippies for the decline of bees and CCD. Them and their damn insatiable thirst for almond milk.

God damnit

Ahh, hope that's not an international thing... but might possibly be why I didn't get along with wheat as well back when I switched up then. I'll have to read up on that.

And they say gluten causes inflammation hmm, could it be this is the source of all of this after all...

Though most grains with gluten have been modified to have more gluten. Higher raising power but supposedly worse for the gut for it.

Do know about this at least. We've stayed clean off GMO foods for a long time, as well as we can. Law requires GMO foods be marked as such over here, and from what I see they're rare, though I wonder if plenty doesn't slip by anyway. Hard to control.

Nah man, no mass-produced stuff at all if I can avoid it. :)

Every summer. :)

That's cool. I definitely didn't care about what I ate as much when I was in my teens, just whatever tasted good, though feels like the mass-produced stuff is really just getting worse and worse lately. Or maybe we're just more aware of all the warning signs now.

Fo shizzle. :) Been plotting to replicate with slightly different ingredients...

Looks delicious too. Potential simple gluten-free alternative too: swap all-purpose for oat flour. Possibly a bit more egg to keep consistency.

Gotta get my breakfasts in check... had a banana myself.