You right! Also ChatGPT-style titles

BTW, you forgot about another songs.

I will be more aggressive in bulk dumping the links next time :)

Thanks whoever wrote the "how to tell if it's AI" guide.

I always get concerned when this thread goes silent...

I brace for something really bad to happen and the anxiety is real...

Maybe others feel the same...?

So I thought I'd lighten the pent-up tension by sharing "one" of my "more speculative reports" here.

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This is how I found this particular uploader in question. They leave a "great" impression right of the bat,:

- very complain-y tone & typos

- no signs of remorse (A regular person would write something akin to "Sorry I messed up. Can somebody please help me?")

- addressing the void, rather than to do 2 minutes of digging to determine how to contact the powers that be... (Why would anyone even do that? "Writing a wish on a slip of paper and throwing it into the street" is not how humans communicate!)

To make it clear: I do not believe that every single person who "gets caught" is a "problem case". I just think 90% of them are. After all, we get a lot of them... So doing a quick check always seems to be worth a minute or two of my time.

They still have one track left uploaded so let's have a look:

No immediate search results for the title given. But I find it hard to believe that somebody who has the this voice and the recording quality to go along with to then get into trouble over stolen music and then tries to "communicate" like that.

I am a bit on the fence about the case. Just like everyone else, musicians can make stupid mistakes from time to time. It just seems unlikely that somebody on that skill level

- composes 20 to 100 tracks

- buys professional recording equipment or invests into another 100% legit "source of a singing voice"

- then hops on NG - and NG only!

- bins almost all of their tracks and only releases one track that sound "good enough"

- and the second track they ever upload is not one of their own...

- And just to top it off, after all that hard work, they do the equivalent of walking into the street, exclaiming "To anyone who hears this: Fix my problem for me." It just doesn't fit.

And that's the kind of suspicious behavior that makes me go "I am moderately sorry if I waste your time, dear anonymous Audio Portal Moderator, but could you please look into this? I think this might be worth your time."

(To be perfectly honest here: I just write "Speculative report:" in the top line. They probably have another 100 of these to go through today and will probably not care as much about pleasantries. I know how it feels when you're tired and "do stuff on NG" out of feeling obligated to.)

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And to celebrate "finally weekend!", today you'll get a two-for-one special! ;)

This user stands out by providing "information out of nowhere". The kind of information one might provide preemptively if one would like to evoke the impression of "legitimacy". But at the same time, they did not take the time to look into how "other" music producers present their work here. Odd for somebody who allegedly invested hundreds of hours into "getting good"...

Again, this is a user who has no accounts aside the one on NG and no discernible growth curve.

They also have an "interesting" uploading record:

- 2 "test tracks"

- 2 tracks somehow related to the Sonic franchise

- followed by what might or might not be a midi-fied portion of the track composed by another Newgrounds user. They even credited the original artist, which is unusual.

- The first 2 are most certainly theirs.

- The Sonic ones might be stolen.

- The last one may or may not be mostly ripped from another artist's work. They do know how to create audio files so it would not be hard to convince me that they actually created the file through their own efforts. But how much of those efforts were creative in nature...? Answering that last bit is above my pay-grade.

Here's how my report looked (which I left on their final upload):

I suspect that this is part of 'F-777 - Deadlocked (Full)' by 'F-777' - just midi-fied:

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/503731

However, I neither have the musical ear nor the tools to assist me in analyzing the situation further.

Part of that makes me suspicious of them is that they jumped from "I hitted the keysboard, mom!" to "Professionally recorded piece that's _most_likely_ stolen from a Sonic game" within a week... and then went back to "Cheap midi-cover".

Here are the links to the Sonic-tracks in question, so you don't have to deal with 3 identical reports:

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1434454

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1434464

This is both a complex situation for a single report, but also an interesting case in concerns to this thread. As you can see my reports are rather condensed, compared to the lengthy explanation I provided for the thread. Because NG Moderators see a lot of this, I am convinced that they can follow me if I skip a few steps.

(This was also a good chance for me to demonstrate that I am not as nice of a person as some users on NG think I am. I can display really dickish behavior sometimes when I think somebody "did wrong", so I decided to leave my insults in.)

I want to tell you about one account that takes other people's songs, applies reverberation, or simply publishes other people's songs in its purest form. He also used Music Maker JAM and possibly Suno AI.

The funny thing is, he also has a scout and a whitelist, and it's fucked up.

This is peper02 and he's the shame of this site, because I don't understand how it was possible to brazenly steal other people's songs.

That's all I found:

Suno AI audio with reverb effect.

The Amazing Limbo by Bigthunder556 with reverb effect.

This is Music Maker JAM, or rather one of the standard packs.

I don't know exactly what it is, but Google Assistant says it's "Other Friends" by Chi-chi.

This is "Crazy Electro Swing" by Ernest Saint-Laurent

Maksim - Отпускаю (Torn Remix)

It's very similar to Music Maker JAM.

It wasn't stolen, it's pure Suno AI.

He also uploaded two more identical Suno AI audios here.

Funny fact: he's subscribed to me, but he only had the first two audios when I checked his account.

I quickly could tell it was ai because of how staticky it was

Oh, I saw that guy when I just uploaded my newest track. Thought he was just some popular underground russian artist with how many views he received after an upload, guess I was wrong.

Now that you mention it I wondered about the situation a few times...:

On Newgrounds, the consequences for such scummy behavior is getting banned from the Audio Portal and the user who scouted them "might" lose their ability to scout others - to prevent this artist from making the same mistake again.

Are there any repercussions when a GD Elder Mod whitelists somebody who should not be whitelisted? I have a pretty terrible opinion of their community, but do their moderators hold themselves to any standards or do they receive their title/decision making powers for life?

Noticed this forum hasn't received a post in 2 days, so here's some stolen audio I found to reawaken it:

Dimitri Vegas, Martin Garrix, Like Mike - Tremor

Gylzey - Neoteric

Apashe - Good Bye (Instrumental Mix)

League of Legends - Swain, The Noxian Grand General Login Music

San Holo - We Rise

DJ Mashiro - Wonderful Days (bro tried replacing the name)

REOL - Hibikase

AronChupa, Little Sis Nora - I'm an Albatraoz

Mashup of two songs, most likely done without permission:

Rogue - Adventure Time

Virtual Riot - Ephemera

Apashe - Good Bye

DashieXP - THE LAZY ANTHEM 2

Tristam - Once Again

Vena Cava - Handsonic (feat. Jordan Virelli)

I'll share a couple more:

Tristam - Moonlight (Novacore's Extended Mix)

PHARAOH - Убийца

sssShawnnnn - Pizza Rolls

The title comes from this AMV containing the same song.

KrisKros - Dark Matter

Барбоскины - Ремикс (Club Remix By Bababoom)

Don Diablo & Matt Nash - Starlight (Different Heaven Remix)

FadeX - Pokémon Riot

Стас Михайлов - Всё для тебя

NightHawk22 - Isolation

Double upload of Anders Baldwin - Electra

Kraddy - Into the Labyrinth (description on this one is kinda funny lol)

Double upload of DubDogz & Bhaskar - Infinity

Doin - Interference

Dashel & INDX8 - Virtual Arcane (a newgrounds comment on the original track mentioned that someone reuploaded this before them, lol)

Cyberpunkers - Dreadbots

Sim Gretina - Twilightlicious

PrototypeRaptor - Survivors

Still Young - Midnight (Party Thieves Remix)

JELEEL! - DIVE IN!

dj-Nate - The Beginning of Time (left the original ID of the song in the title...)

Steven Reineke - Pilatus: Mountain of Dragons

Panda Eyes x Teminite - Highscore

Triplett - Illuminati

Lumidee & Fatman Scoop vs. Miley Cyrus, David A - Twerk Dance (Kastra Edit)

Fareoh - Daydream

Battle Cats OST - Apollo Showdown

SEAN PRICE ft Agallah - Rising To The Top

Double upload of a remix of this, but I can't seem to find this supposed remix anywhere else. The guy who uploaded this mentions in the description that he doesn't know who Adam is... who is Adam?

Not stolen, but I'm pretty sure you can't upload a friend's music for them. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

Unable to ID these, but most likely stolen.

Don't listen this song

This one right here, yes you are correct as its stolen. This song is known as two names "Heaven Party" or the actual title, "Sky" by Itro

Someone named Police120 stole it and renamed it as Heaven. ZenthicAlpha used that song for the GD level, naming the 7 star level after the renamed song. After the submission by Police120 was removed, various NG users reposted the song.

Please remember, this song is NOT called Heaven Party, it's called Sky. I can't believe P120, even 10 years ago fooled us thinking that was the name at first.

(Posted in 2004, ID 8653)

I don't think this is allowed, it's not music, all just static. And mainly, it's loud. Not industrial related either. I did read the reviews on this, Im thinking there was an error while this was being submitted

You are absolutely correct to call such cases out. It's even rule number one! (Although "Don't be a dick!" should be rule number one.)

There are several issues with somebody uploading something "for a friend/sibling", both in terms of legality and in terms of logistics:

First up: They "could" be lying! "Oh, I just uploaded this professionally recorded piece of audio artistry for... "a friend" - whose name I will not even provide." is "most likely" a lie. Creating an account on NG is free. Even if they would like to host their work here, "setting up an account that looks halfway put-together" can be done in a matter of minutes. "Conthegreat4790" on the other hand has a "Nothing account". Even the username is a throw-away name... If a friend of mine were to "offer" me to upload my creative output like that, I'd give them a piece of my mind - and I would not be stingy with the adjectives!

Let's say the information provided were in fact factual... Imagine the logistical issues if someone doesn't represent themselves:

- "Yesterday a dude reviewed your song with 4 stars and wrote "Fire" - so I replied to him and told him to burn in hell!"

- "By the way, 2 months ago this girl said she absolutely loved your music and wanted to go on a date with you or she would kill herself. She hasn't said anything 'since then'..."

- "So, I can no longer upload music for you, because I got banned from the Audio Portal after uploading this song I found on he internet..."

- "So, I can no longer upload music for you, because my account got deleted after *bleep!* Sorry dude. All those glowing reviews and favorites from the last year and a half are gone as well..."

- "So... This music company contacted my account 2 years ago and offered you a contract, but I kinda didn't see it because I stopped reading PMs. That was right around the time you were depressed about the lack of recognition as an artist and your father would have need treatment for his cancer... But I 'do' feel really shitty about it - and I told you. So we're 'good', right?"

- "You know that site, 'Newgrounds'...? It seems you used a sample of an ancient song that's legally owned by a group called "Recording Industry Association of America" (RIAA). And do you remember when the US copyright law got changed...? It wasn't really my fault, so I already gave them your home address. You owe them $700 million, now. Sucks to be you, but thanks for letting me upload that song. It was really cool being so popular on Newgrounds for a while. I promise I'll visit you in jail."

And that's just a few examples that I was able to come up with on the spot...

Plus: One day, two people are friends. The next day they might not be. Suddenly, one person would have control over the use and presentation of their former friend's work. How would the Audio Portal Moderation Team even approach that situation? Especially when no information was provided on the original artist(s).

And if you read a few pages back, there might still be the remnants of a situation where one user uploaded the work of a person that they did not even even have friendly contact with. Those cases would skyrocket if this kind of funny business was allowed.