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Audio Portal Cleanup

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-12 04:17:02 (edited 2024-09-12 04:25:03)


A few Suno AI tracks:


This user is creating multiple accounts to upload AI audio. They tried to upload AI tracks on their old account a few days ago, and now has a new account with songs fresh out of Suno. @pingu, wanna take a look?

Old account

New account

Songs:


Stolen:


Something still sounds off about this track and user:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-12 11:45:50


At 9/11/24 09:01 AM, Questtrek wrote:
At 9/11/24 05:10 AM, Yatsufusa wrote:@Leavesz
In my opinion, ear damaging audio should always be flagged (as well as rated low, because trolls will always vote 5 on their spam submissions, so others fall for their crap). Regardless of whether it was malicious or due to incompetence you wouldn't want other users to get physically hurt. Same in the Movie Portal, btw.
I can't imagine Pingu or ADR3-N going "Yeah, but it's 'artistic' ear damaging noise..." ;)

I always flag painful audio and silence even though there's no specific category for it in the report tab. I usually put it under the "spam" category, as it's the closest one that matches. Actually, I feel like the spam category on audio reports should be updated, as I have only once seen a shady link on an audio submission (after 1500 flags), and never what I would call a "marketing scheme". Maybe I've just gotten lucky. The audio guidelines give examples of "white noise, blowing into the microphone, screaming, and text-to-speech" as things that shouldn't be on the audio portal, as well as stating that submissions shouldn't be "painful to listen to".


I was asking about this one actually.


It is just 2 random stock samples playing incoherently for a second or two, it barely constitutes a jingle and it might as well be silence, but other than that there's nothing in the guidelines that would explicitly forbid a submission such as this one, so I'm unsure on whether to flag it or not.


But now that we're on the topic of rules being obtuse I would like to suggest staff to expand on the "Your audio can not damage ears or be painful to listen to." section of the Audio Guidelines. 'et cetera' is a very broad term, it would be appreciated if it were more specific than that in regards to what is considered "painful to listen to".


Exempli gratia I can imagine some EDM track that for whatever reason is sitting at +3 LUFS wouldn't count as "white noise, blowing into the microphone, screaming, and text-to-speech" but it still would be way too loud in comparison to everything else on the site what would potentially cause hearing damage and I assume it wouldn't be allowed, but it's not explicitly stated in the rules and I would shy away from reporting it just because of that.


Another thing, a musique concrete / noise music soundscape could be considered ear damaging in a case by case basis but it isn't exactly clear if it's breaking the rule regardless just because it is considered "white noise, blowing into the microphone, screaming" or "et cetera". Stupid as I am, I thought it would be fine to upload such a thing if I just lowered the volume of the file by a considerate amount of decibels to avoid it being "painful to listen to" but it got removed regardless, what also got me a third of the year banned, so I assume the problem wasn't so much that it was too loud or "painful to listen to" and rather that it was considered to be just "noise". Would be nice if it were explicitly stated that musique concrete or noise collages are not allowed.


And another minor thing I kind of just noticed is that nightcore is said to be completely forbidden in the guidelines but from a couple threads asking about it in the audio forum I gather that it is allowed on the condition that it is the authors own original work that they're speeding up, if that's the case I'd say that needs to be reworded too.

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-13 09:25:04


At 9/12/24 11:45 AM, Leavesz wrote:[...] And another minor thing I kind of just noticed is that nightcore is said to be completely forbidden in the guidelines but from a couple threads asking about it in the audio forum I gather that it is allowed on the condition that it is the authors own original work that they're speeding up, if that's the case I'd say that needs to be reworded too.


The No-Nightcore-rule* is essentially a No-Plagiarizing/No-Stealing-rule.


While I do not doubt that those threads are there, but I do not know if those necessarily reflect the views of the entire Audio Portal Moderation Team if they are not in the rules. I'd also say regular users cannot be asked to go digging through the forums for special exceptions before every single report they make. In my eyes, submitting the same track multiple times is pretty much the same as submitting the same track twice at the same speed: It's spam. And when I cannot notice any difference between two tracks when I listen to them back to back, I will report them as spam until the rules are changed or a Moderator writes me a PM that I do not need to flag those because their team has been told not to remove those cases anymore.


* At the time of writing: "Nightcore (speeding up source material and increasing pitch) is not allowed even if you have permission to use the source material." (source)


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-13 18:44:09


This song has nothing, it is 0 seconds long. Unless maybe the uploading was broken. But the title has spam text and so far he's only posted one song. I didn't mark it, I only do when a song is stolen


He did a good remake to this song, but in the beginning he took part of the original song for the first 10 seconds. I didn't mark this either because 90% of this song is possibly just a remake. But you tell me


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZSe6N_BXs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPiW0tkWfeg

There's more but I'm not going to put long lists because I know I'm not supposed to do that, instead I should just mark it and the moderators will take a look.


I got good events and bad events. Should we begin with the bad first? People are still posting stolen songs today, but not as much as they did in the last 10 years. The good is, now that GD is in 2.2, we are allowed to use NCS or the full song of Fingerbang. It was definitely worth the wait for 6 years. But yes check the songs I posted above and tell me if its allowed.


Try going to undiscovered artists and filter it to late 2014 to early 2015, I found lots of them. When 1.9 was released, that was when many people began stealing songs for GD

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-13 18:47:01


At 9/13/24 06:44 PM, Mboy600 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1358435
This song has nothing, it is 0 seconds long. Unless maybe the uploading was broken. But the title has spam text and so far he's only posted one song. I didn't mark it, I only do when a song is stolen

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1358422
He did a good remake to this song, but in the beginning he took part of the original song for the first 10 seconds. I didn't mark this either because 90% of this song is possibly just a remake. But you tell me

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/604333
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZSe6N_BXs

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/604130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPiW0tkWfeg
There's more but I'm not going to put long lists because I know I'm not supposed to do that, instead I should just mark it and the moderators will take a look.

I got good events and bad events. Should we begin with the bad first? People are still posting stolen songs today, but not as much as they did in the last 10 years. The good is, now that GD is in 2.2, we are allowed to use NCS or the full song of Fingerbang. It was definitely worth the wait for 6 years. But yes check the songs I posted above and tell me if its allowed.

Try going to undiscovered artists and filter it to late 2014 to early 2015, I found lots of them. When 1.9 was released, that was when many people began stealing songs for GD


as for the ATSOL remix, it cannot be deleted. Why? firstly, the original song is on Newgrounds, DimRain47 uploaded it himself. An example is the remix of Nine Circles by Xtrullor. there are also moments that were taken from the original composition, so this is allowed, I think.

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-13 19:35:40


At 9/13/24 06:47 PM, G2961 wrote:as for the ATSOL remix, it cannot be deleted. Why? firstly, the original song is on Newgrounds, DimRain47 uploaded it himself. An example is the remix of Nine Circles by Xtrullor. there are also moments that were taken from the original composition, so this is allowed, I think.


Additionally, At the Speed of Light is licenced under a Creative Commons BY-NC 3.0 licence, which allows anyone to "copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format" as well as "remix, transform, and build upon the material" as long as it is done so non-comercially and with appropriate credit. While Newgrounds might not let you do certain things with the song (ie reupload it to the AP with no changes), Dimrain47 cannot say anything about remixes like that. As for Newgrounds, I think of it as a case by case basis. It depends on what is being remixed and how much of the composition is original. I personally wouldn't flag the remix by Larryfdsthe, as most of it is original and the licence for the original song permits adaptation.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-14 01:15:49


Suno AI:

I swear these Suno songs are always titled "Neon Lights", "Techno Moon", "Artificial Ascent", or "Pixel something". That's sometimes how I hunt for Suno tracks.


This user went to the dark side. It's all Suno AI.


Stolen:


Spam:


This user has uploaded stolen audio before, but I don't know enough about starfox to know if this track is stolen or a recreation:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-14 06:12:14 (edited 2024-09-14 06:15:19)


Feels like a GD reupload, user is begging for a scout. I have no idea if it's original or not; it just feels suspicious to me. There's typos in the note saying that it "took a long time", only tags related to GD, and constant begging for a scout. Everything screams GD reupload. Hopefully my suspicions are misplaced and it's just a mildly annoying user.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-14 23:41:35


Suno:


Stolen:


Groovepad (not sure about loop usage):


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-16 07:03:42


More Suno AI:


I had some strong feelings about this last one:


Stolen:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-16 22:50:46


A reminder: Most of these songs were posted in the last 24 hours.


Suno AI:


Stolen:


Spam:


I was pointed toward this user, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if their music is just loop and/or midi spam. If anyone else wants to take a look, here's an example:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-17 18:14:46 (edited 2024-09-17 18:15:31)


I don't think loud music is allowed, I remember hearing over that rule even if its their own work. I didn't mark it, but play it and tell me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3ljevLR5gU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ovgKZCiWqw

I don't know for this one, I can't tell if it sounds exactly the same as the YT link below, didn't mark. He only posted two songs saying its for GD. Many people did a midi remake to that song but play both the ng and the yt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pleY7-N0GOA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykj_wJKkaAg

Fast version of the yt link below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-gyZ35074k


If you all can, please filter the date undiscovered search to around December 2014, I found lots of suspicious songs as many of them have posted only one song and says for GD. I can't just post possible stolen songs here without proof from YouTube

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-17 18:28:24


At 9/17/24 06:14 PM, Mboy600 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1359680
I don't think loud music is allowed, I remember hearing over that rule even if its their own work. I didn't mark it, but play it and tell me
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1359636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3ljevLR5gU
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/599563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ovgKZCiWqw
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/599660
I don't know for this one, I can't tell if it sounds exactly the same as the YT link below, didn't mark. He only posted two songs saying its for GD. Many people did a midi remake to that song but play both the ng and the yt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pleY7-N0GOA
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/598922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykj_wJKkaAg
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/598883
Fast version of the yt link below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-gyZ35074k

If you all can, please filter the date undiscovered search to around December 2014, I found lots of suspicious songs as many of them have posted only one song and says for GD. I can't just post possible stolen songs here without proof from YouTube


That's the gold you dug up, lol

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-17 18:29:07


At 9/17/24 06:14 PM, Mboy600 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1359680
I don't think loud music is allowed, I remember hearing over that rule even if its their own work. I didn't mark it, but play it and tell me


Not only that, but it was originally Electrodynamix by dj-Nate, so it isn't even their work. You can barely tell what it is because of how bass boosted it is.



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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-17 18:40:57


At 9/17/24 06:29 PM, Questtrek wrote:
At 9/17/24 06:14 PM, Mboy600 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1359680
I don't think loud music is allowed, I remember hearing over that rule even if its their own work. I didn't mark it, but play it and tell me

Not only that, but it was originally Electrodynamix by dj-Nate, so it isn't even their work. You can barely tell what it is because of how bass boosted it is.


I think that the it's still recognizable if you try to carefully hear the 'beats' of its instrumental, putting aside the 'harmful', 'bass-boosted' volume of this version of the song (that's, at least, how I identified it myself.)

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-18 00:29:54


At 9/17/24 06:40 PM, Gekkotsuki wrote:
At 9/17/24 06:29 PM, Questtrek wrote:
At 9/17/24 06:14 PM, Mboy600 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1359680
I don't think loud music is allowed, I remember hearing over that rule even if its their own work. I didn't mark it, but play it and tell me

Not only that, but it was originally Electrodynamix by dj-Nate, so it isn't even their work. You can barely tell what it is because of how bass boosted it is.

I think that the it's still recognizable if you try to carefully hear the 'beats' of its instrumental, putting aside the 'harmful', 'bass-boosted' volume of this version of the song (that's, at least, how I identified it myself.)


Thanks for telling me. I didn't fully listen to the song, only around few seconds, because I was getting headaches from it, even at a low percent volume. So loud.

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-18 03:22:17 (edited 2024-09-18 03:23:41)


Suno v3 was introduced for most people on on March 21, 2024, and with it, users could make up to a 4 minute track with a free account. I decided to pick through the audio portal and listen to every track released after that date with a length between 03:57 and 4:02. All of them. There are so many Suno tracks, and this is only the ones that generated something up to the free limit. There's even more Suno songs that I didn't find because they're shorter than 4 minutes. Keep in mind that a lot of these songs are from scouted users. They are indicated below the bulk list.


So, without further ado, Suno AI:


The Suno tracks from the last 24 hours:


This user is scouted with four Suno tracks and nothing else.


Another scouted user with only Suno tracks. Ah yes, his "friend" did the vocals. Edit: In the time it took me to write this post, someone commented on the first track that that his "friend" sounds just like Suno AI. The track is now deleted. They know what they're doing.


This scouted user has over a hundred decent tracks, but couldn't resist the draw of Suno. What a shame.

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As an explantaion for new users to the Audio Portal Clenaup thread, this is spectrogram analysis. I use it to determine the bitrate of songs, as if you look at the top of this one, there's a clear cutoff at 19kHz. If the bitrate was actually 320kbps, as the file metadata claims, the cutoff scould be at 20kHz. It's a cutoff at 19kHz though, which means that the original bitrate was 192kbps, the exact max output of Suno AI. Spectrograms are useful for users that think manually chaging the bitrate will automatically make their song better and less tracable to Suno AI. They are wrong.


This is a fresh account that got scouted, they only have one song and it is Suno.


This scouted user had a moment of weakness and uploaded a Suno song. Everything else on their account appears to be human, at least from what I saw skimming through it quickly.


Suno Remix Function:


Spam:


All silent and one second in duration for some reason. Maybe there was some sort of audio issue. I didn't flag these, but thought it should be checked on.


Stolen:


Mildly Suspicious:


@ADR3-N, can you take a look at all the scouted users with only Suno songs to their name? Also, how did an account created yesterday already get scouted? I feel like that shouldn't happen.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-18 04:43:36 (edited 2024-09-18 04:45:13)


I know where this came from. It was from a YouTube video where someone demoed all the Geometry Dash Songs on piano during 1.9 but I can't find the video as of now. I checked the ng profile of his, if you see, his second song post says its first song so I believe he stole it.

This is just quiet, as It even says in the title. I don't think that's allowed


That's all I got. I said this already and I hope you're doing this. I found lots of songs from late 2014 to early 2015 which are possible stolen songs. I know it's possible if the person gives it a different title, is posted after 2014, and is Dubstep music, and if their profiles only have one song post. I can't recognize the originals, so I left it how it is.


Pic 1: Results of possible stolen songs

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Pic 2: How I find these possible stolen songs by search iu_1271170_23601002.png

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-18 05:46:46 (edited 2024-09-18 05:52:39)


Hey! I'm here again!


Fuck yeah. Udio song was Frontpaged again.

This is Mafistan - he really love using AI. He used Soundraw, Udio and Suno. He made (generated) 15 songs.


Frontpaged Udio song:


Suno:


Another Udio:


Soundraw:

(simillar song)

(simillar song)

(simillar song)

(simillar song)

(simillar song)

(simillar song)

(simillar song)

(simillar song)

(simillar song)

(simillar song)


I found a fake musican, which use udio. He was scouted.


This guy uploaded 3 songs, which seems to AI. But i noticed only 2 songs with "udio" in metadates and one song with words about udio in descreptions.

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Another AI Songs:


udio:


Suno:


That's it. I'm lazy now. I spent 2 hours for searching.


@ADR3-N and @Questtrek please check it

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-18 06:04:48


At 9/18/24 05:46 AM, G2961 wrote:Hey! I'm here again!

Fuck yeah. Udio song was Frontpaged again.
This is Mafistan - he really love using AI. He used Soundraw, Udio and Suno. He made (generated) 15 songs.

Frontpaged Udio song:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1340923

Suno:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1344669

Another Udio:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1324228
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1311185

Soundraw:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1309284
(simillar song)
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1307837
(simillar song)
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1306865
(simillar song)
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1304933
(simillar song)
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1302014
(simillar song)
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1298557
(simillar song)
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1297214
(simillar song)
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1296599
(simillar song)
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1296306
(simillar song)
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1295985
(simillar song)

I found a fake musican, which use udio. He was scouted.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1354753
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1355915
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1355975
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1356273
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1356814

This guy uploaded 3 songs, which seems to AI. But i noticed only 2 songs with "udio" in metadates and one song with words about udio in descreptions.

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1354243

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1354557

Another AI Songs:

udio:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1349711

Suno:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1352342
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1343853
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1348685
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1345412
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1334749
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1346182

That's it. I'm lazy now. I spent 2 hours for searching.

@ADR3-N and @Questtrek please check it


I accidentally left the wrong link for the latest Soundraw song. I forgot to add there that I didn't find similar song. however, I remember that I was able to generate a similar song using the Tokyo Night Pop genre, however, now the Soundraw generation algorithms have changed.

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-18 13:47:55 (edited 2024-09-18 13:49:10)


Removed

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-18 13:48:24 (edited 2024-09-18 13:50:21)


Hi, i want to remove my old remix which was supposed to sound bad, but i feel it is bad like not in intention to be bad, so can you remove it?? (bc of it i cant upload my own songs) this sh|t

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-18 14:10:08


User obviously recorded something else with their phone's microphone. Can't tell what this is at all so I can't report as Stolen without providing links to the source of the original material


Putting the "pro" in procrastination since 2000.

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-18 16:34:04 (edited 2024-09-18 16:36:32)


At 9/18/24 02:10 PM, Albe wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1359855
User obviously recorded something else with their phone's microphone. Can't tell what this is at all so I can't report as Stolen without providing links to the source of the original material


Wonder Pets. It was a kids show on Nick Jr. years ago. It's the theme at the beginning of each episode where they find out who they need to help. I feel like a sleeper agent that just got activated; It's been a long time since I've heard that song.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-18 18:29:00


Here's some older ones.


I'm fairly certain these are Suno AI, it might be done with the remix function:


Suno AI probably:


Spam:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-18 23:05:28


Im an expert knowledge at keyboards, especially Casios or Yamahas. For those who don't know, rhythms in keyboards are basically parts of songs created by the music companies, and you can control their keys with chords.

Anyways, this is a rhythm of "Techno" by Casio. I don't think rhythms are allowed as the poster didn't entirely make the song. I have proof of the identical rhythm being recorded on YT, go to the link, and at timestamp 2:19:43 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivAuO2JPAbE

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-18 23:20:28 (edited 2024-09-18 23:26:18)


I filtered songs that are only a second long, as it breaks the spam rules

This is a loud sound, of a screaming kid. Can't just mark it so I'm posting it here to see if you agree if this is allowed

This is just a guy saying cuss words, and it's rated E? Well in 2018, audios didn't have ratings. Can Newgrounds change the rating to M at least if possible.

Yeah this is pretty much nearly empty. Just a voice being cut off after less than a second. Spam once again, and he posted the song three times

Whoa, that scared me so badly, no we can't keep this, this is extremely loud, lucky I didn't have ears plugged. And its from 2005, how? (ID 18660)

This song doesn't even work, it says only a second long, and GD is mentioned in desc.


That's all I'm putting here. I found lots more if you filter it by one second. I appear to find lots of one second long sfx's that I don't believe is theirs

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-19 22:58:43 (edited 2024-09-19 22:59:26)


More, here's five examples I'm posting today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCABidKtIDQ

We all know where this is from, still must put a link, not everyone here knows Geometry Dash. But probably 90% of us on NG knows GD by now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3gfhz7xyRU at 0:16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfV4ZDgumTQ

Again nothing is playing

Just why, 1 second sound of a GD noise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3gfhz7xyRU at 0:19

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-20 01:37:16 (edited 2024-09-20 01:50:30)


I don't know if I should be posting this here, I don't know if this follows the topic, normally were supposed to post stolen songs, but this person is posting very negative reviews on audio songs, and giving it zero stars. Just go through and tell me, Im not the moderator but this is making me mad. iu_1272127_23601002.png

https://jaidrager297.newgrounds.com/reviews/audio/1

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-20 03:49:51


At 9/20/24 01:37 AM, Mboy600 wrote:I don't know if I should be posting this here, I don't know if this follows the topic, normally were supposed to post stolen songs, but this person is posting very negative reviews on audio songs, and giving it zero stars. Just go through and tell me, Im not the moderator but this is making me mad.
https://jaidrager297.newgrounds.com/reviews/audio/1


by the way, this idiot has repeatedly deleted and created new accounts