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Audio Portal Cleanup

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-09-26 18:03:36


At 9/26/24 06:00 PM, datboi7os wrote:That was a track made by AI?? it was extremely convincing and that's very terrifying and awful, I'm sorry for scouting this.


It's not your fault here, it's only the one who wasn't afraid to upload an AI song here.

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-01 21:20:56


Quick AI search.


Suno AI:


Account name makes sense.


I think this might be the older Suno v2 model, can someone take a look? The user claims to have help from an "old AI", but I think it's all Suno. It always confuses me how artists out of all people are okay using services like Suno.


Spam:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-05 01:10:22 (edited 2024-10-05 01:13:16)


More.


Scouted user with exclusively Suno AI tracks. @ADR3-N, can you take a look?


Suno AI:


Ewwww. Refering to him as "robbie toppie" sounds like it should be reserved for the bedroom. Suno AI from a GD spammer obviously.


Suspicious:


Every comment on this (Suno) track is from another user that uploaded AI tracks. Every single one.


Stolen:


Spam:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-05 02:15:58


Hey friends, got something for you

We all obviously know this song. Oh, you don't? Well, here's the link below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpEOErRV-u4

Original

Take a look at this for a second, I feel like this is just combined songs of Azazal. I barely listen to Azazal but I also see he's a fan of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDgQdr8ZkTw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDU_Txk06tM

Goodnight everyone, I got a big day tomorrow, I gotta meet with a friend tomorrow morn and have some breakfast. Your all doing a great job


Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-05 17:27:40


Just did a quick search. I usually search in the undiscovered artists only, but recently I've found that there's scouted users with Suno AI uploads too.


This user is scouted with all Suno AI tracks. Most of their descriptions are written by ChatGPT as well.


Suno AI:


Stolen:



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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-05 23:51:11


At 10/5/24 05:27 PM, Questtrek wrote:Just did a quick search. I usually search in the undiscovered artists only, but recently I've found that there's scouted users with Suno AI uploads too.

This user is scouted with all Suno AI tracks. Most of their descriptions are written by ChatGPT as well.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1364650
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1358585
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1354128


I haven't heard many GenAI tracks but just from these I can pick out that they must have trained their models on soundcloud mp3 rips. The drums and other background elements all have this muffled VBR quality, and it appears that every other instrument gets incoherently smeared across the stereo field at various moments throughout the song.


Never paid attention to this stuff because I never really touched any GenAI music generator, but I (for some reason) didn't think it would be so easy to hear their inconsistencies. I would suppose these aren't paid generations, right?

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-06 01:15:41 (edited 2024-10-06 01:23:13)


This user is scouted and their only upload is a blatantly stolen track:


Original is Dignity by Yooh.


Wasn't having more than 4 submissions a requirement for getting scouted before?


Oh, and before the edit window closes, this track I just found has a weird bitrate, weird blasted sub frequencies and also weird max volume, can't clearly hear any other artifacts but being their only upload with no kind of thoughtful description given I would assume it might be a GenAI track.


Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-06 01:29:43


At 10/5/24 11:51 PM, Leavesz wrote:I haven't heard many GenAI tracks but just from these I can pick out that they must have trained their models on soundcloud mp3 rips. The drums and other background elements all have this muffled VBR quality, and it appears that every other instrument gets incoherently smeared across the stereo field at various moments throughout the song.


I can see what you mean by Suno Being trained off Soundcloud mp3's. I've noticed that Suno outputs songs very similar to the largest names in music too. A month or so ago, I noticed a handful of songs that musically sounded very similar to Five Finger Death Punch, both in song progression and the vocals. While Suno doesn't disclose where they train their models, I am near certain that it was somewhat trained on everyday songs on the radio.


Never paid attention to this stuff because I never really touched any GenAI music generator, but I (for some reason) didn't think it would be so easy to hear their inconsistencies. I would suppose these aren't paid generations, right?


These probably weren't paid generations, as I think most of the generations uploaded to Newgrounds similarly aren't. From what I've seen, it appears to be a lot of kids who are uploading Suno AI tracks, as you get a certain amount of free generation credits each month. Kids don't usually have money to waste on a service like Suno, and besides, the generation it barfs out with some of their free daily credits sounds great to them, so they just upload that. As far as I know though, paying doesn't make the music any better, it just gives you more credits and generates songs faster ("priority generation queue"). Udio also has a free option, but for some reason I don't see it as often on Newgrounds, and when I do, the type of user that uses it usually skews older and are more intesrested in growing themselves as a fake musician than getting "their" music on Geometry Dash.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-06 02:03:06


At 10/6/24 01:29 AM, Questtrek wrote:
At 10/5/24 11:51 PM, Leavesz wrote:Never paid attention to this stuff because I never really touched any GenAI music generator, but I (for some reason) didn't think it would be so easy to hear their inconsistencies. I would suppose these aren't paid generations, right?

These probably weren't paid generations, as I think most of the generations uploaded to Newgrounds similarly aren't. From what I've seen, it appears to be a lot of kids who are uploading Suno AI tracks, as you get a certain amount of free generation credits each month. Kids don't usually have money to waste on a service like Suno, and besides, the generation it barfs out with some of their free daily credits sounds great to them, so they just upload that. As far as I know though, paying doesn't make the music any better, it just gives you more credits and generates songs faster ("priority generation queue").


So you don't even pay for better trash, you just pay for more trash... that's a funny scam.


Udio also has a free option, but for some reason I don't see it as often on Newgrounds, and when I do, the type of user that uses it usually skews older and are more intesrested in growing themselves as a fake musician than getting "their" music on Geometry Dash.


That's also really funny, they would not be able to keep up that facade for too long without learning the slightest bit of theory jargon. And if they really wanted to make it big they could not possibly perform at any kind of live event. At most they'll make a cent or two from their spotify uploads and that's it. This technology really was perfectly designed for enabling these sorts of scams. What makes me wonder why they even bother uploading to a site that doesn't allow anyone to directly profit from listens or similar bullshit. it's just such a pointlessly elaborate roleplay.

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-06 05:50:40 (edited 2024-10-06 05:51:57)


At 10/6/24 02:03 AM, Leavesz wrote:[...] That's also really funny, they would not be able to keep up that facade for too long without learning the slightest bit of theory jargon. And if they really wanted to make it big they could not possibly perform at any kind of live event. At most they'll make a cent or two from their spotify uploads and that's it. This technology really was perfectly designed for enabling these sorts of scams. What makes me wonder why they even bother uploading to a site that doesn't allow anyone to directly profit from listens or similar bullshit. it's just such a pointlessly elaborate roleplay.


I highly doubt that concepts such as "long term plan" or "sustainability" have hit the consciousness of those people - which are in my estimation either kids or "kid-like enough that they shouldn't be allowed to use the internet unsupervised".


Story time: After an argument with their parents, the child of a couple I'm friends with decided one evening to open a window and scream "Help Police!". A neighbor then called the police and the police came... ("Who would have thunk it...?") The situation was cleared up, there was some (mandatory) investigation by child services, and appropriate punishment was had - for the child. When the child in question was asked about their motives and how they thought that would improve their situation, the answer boiled down to "I don't know."

Those two situations seem really comparable to me. :)


And this dear readers is why NG is 13+. Not that it helps in all cases...


(Maybe we should update that age limit to 16+... In that case, maybe just the 13-15 year olds would sneak in and the 8 year olds would leave us alone...)


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-06 06:33:25


At 10/6/24 05:50 AM, Yatsufusa wrote:
At 10/6/24 02:03 AM, Leavesz wrote:[...] That's also really funny, they would not be able to keep up that facade for too long without learning the slightest bit of theory jargon. And if they really wanted to make it big they could not possibly perform at any kind of live event. At most they'll make a cent or two from their spotify uploads and that's it. This technology really was perfectly designed for enabling these sorts of scams. What makes me wonder why they even bother uploading to a site that doesn't allow anyone to directly profit from listens or similar bullshit. it's just such a pointlessly elaborate roleplay.

I highly doubt that concepts such as "long term plan" or "sustainability" have hit the consciousness of those people - which are in my estimation either kids or "kid-like enough that they shouldn't be allowed to use the internet unsupervised".

In my experience, that's pretty much universal among AI boosters - no concept of long-term consequences, no thoughts for sustainability, just trying to make more money/get some clout right the fuck now.


If/when Suno/Udio go bankrupt, this goddamn tidal wave of Auditory Impersonation should hopefully stop as well. Sure, there's gonna be some promptfondlers who will try their luck with local models or shit like that, but they'll be few and far between.


he/they - pretty cool guy

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-06 12:22:06


Another scouted account with stolen uploads.

source: Dark Meta Knight Battle Arrangement by The Noble Demon.


source: C-R-O-W-N-E-D Arrangement by The Noble Demon.

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-09 04:59:27


This user has both Suno and Udio AI tracks.

Suno:


Udio:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-09 17:02:14 (edited 2024-10-09 17:05:18)


I don't have much time to look for AI song, but I found some AI songs.


Suno users:

https://thealexriddim.newgrounds.com/

(Scouted)



https://shadowstrideer.newgrounds.com/audio



Suno:


Soundful:

(Drum N Bass genre)

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-09 22:30:34


A dash of Suno:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-09 22:38:31 (edited 2024-10-09 22:39:34)


Well, I wonder what I found today, oh yes

I actually found this person 9 years ago during Geometry Dash 1.9 and I did it by searching in 8888. I hate to break it, but they're posting loud stuff, I know its posted 20 years ago but its against the rule, to prevent deaf

Screaming into the mic for both above

Oh my

Screaming into the mic, uh uh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDIC4O8po-U

Don't flag? Sorry bro but its the rule, you know that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRry3DEaCgE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4D5mkGld4U

Its so annoying when people post songs that are already on Newgrounds, ugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16KpquGsIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUjE9H8QlA4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5psDS6ooV0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnIKLRA31nw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCyIY10KBnk


Ok im done for now. Im gonna make my own music while you all keep searching for stolen songs

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-10 14:20:35



Stolen Harlem Shake Remix


iu_1282437_22593651.webp


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-10 15:57:51 (edited 2024-10-10 16:05:59)


Stock loop abuse:


BTW, the tags in this submission state the uploader is 10 years old. I suppose that's worth noting as it breaks the site's ToS.

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-10 19:53:24


At 10/10/24 03:57 PM, Leavesz wrote:Stock loop abuse:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1347250
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1347574
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1331980

BTW, the tags in this submission state the uploader is 10 years old. I suppose that's worth noting as it breaks the site's ToS.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1318836


Remove that


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-10 20:13:19


At 10/10/24 07:53 PM, dj-evil-1000 wrote:
At 10/10/24 03:57 PM, Leavesz wrote:Stock loop abuse:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1347250
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1347574
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1331980

Remove that


You can't delete forum posts on this site. If your submissions aren't entirely comprised of stock samples & loops and I happen to be mistaken with my report you should try argumentating that fact. Otherwise I'd suggest you read the Audio Guidelines more carefully.

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-10 21:32:11


At 10/10/24 02:20 PM, dj-evil-1000 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/751219

Stolen Harlem Shake Remix


Hey friend, I just want to tell you, it's not a good idea commenting that "someone stole it" and give it 0 stars, well yes you are correct that it's not theirs. Just keep it to yourself if you believe it was taken by someone else. This site doesn't allow negative reviews, otherwise that's rule breaking and eventually the review gets taken off. Just be more careful in the future

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-10 22:01:37


At 10/10/24 07:53 PM, dj-evil-1000 wrote:
At 10/10/24 03:57 PM, Leavesz wrote:Stock loop abuse:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1347250
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1347574
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1331980

BTW, the tags in this submission state the uploader is 10 years old. I suppose that's worth noting as it breaks the site's ToS.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1318836

Remove that


Forum posts cannot be deleted, as Leavesz said. They can be edited for a short time after posting (15 minutes if I remember correctly), but not deleted. Forum mods can go and delete your posts if you ask, but usually not someone else's. If you feel that your audio was improperly removed, submit an audio appeal. I personally thought your songs were loop spam, but I've been wrong before. Also, commanding someone to remove a post is rude and doesn't look good either, even if said post claims your music is breaking the Audio Guidelines. You should take a look at them if you haven't already.  As someone who has posted in the Audio Portal Cleanup Thread already, I thought you would be a little more keen on what to publish (if you indeed posted loop spam).


At 10/10/24 09:32 PM, Mboy600 wrote:Hey friend, I just want to tell you, it's not a good idea commenting that "someone stole it" and give it 0 stars, well yes you are correct that it's not theirs. Just keep it to yourself if you believe it was taken by someone else. This site doesn't allow negative reviews, otherwise that's rule breaking and eventually the review gets taken off. Just be more careful in the future


It's less so negative reviews, and more so negative reviews with no constructive criticism or feedback. I’ve written at least a couple hundred negative reviews, but I always point out something that the user could improve upon. In the past, I would write in reviews if someone was obviously using Suno AI. That wasn’t allowed though, as it was (and still is) considered an accusation. So I now instead focus on why the track doesn’t sound good. I usually focus on strange melody choices, bad bitrate, the dreaded “crusty high tones”, or the indiscernibility of the vocals. I know that these issues are caused by the AI model, but I can’t point that out. For non-AI tracks, I still usually try to focus on ways that the artist can improve, even if I gave them a high score.



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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-10 22:14:07


Windows Xp Error Sound

Fast edition of Blast. Well it's a remix but it still has the sample of the original. I didn't mark it

Windows opening sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkVcdZZfyek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNXzMBA9VU4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGCSD6AHv5U Oh boy, searching in "little einsteins" gave me this huge load.

Extremely loud (Didn't mark)

Oh my ears once again

Hey buddy, this song is finally on NG posted by F-77 now

What the heck why? What do you mean use it for GD? Its already on NG


Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-10 22:22:03 (edited 2024-10-10 22:22:15)


At 10/10/24 09:32 PM, Mboy600 wrote:
At 10/10/24 02:20 PM, dj-evil-1000 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/751219

Stolen Harlem Shake Remix

Hey friend, I just want to tell you, it's not a good idea commenting that "someone stole it" and give it 0 stars, well yes you are correct that it's not theirs. Just keep it to yourself if you believe it was taken by someone else. This site doesn't allow negative reviews, otherwise that's rule breaking and eventually the review gets taken off. Just be more careful in the future


(Forgot to mention, yes it's okay to point out what you can do better. People always tell me to improve and I do my best. But no need to say you stole it, its trash, or it sucks)

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-10 22:47:51 (edited 2024-10-10 22:48:13)


Are we still going to keep this song. This was mentioned in this forum many times in the last 10 years, due to the screaming, especially at 0:22 and 0:33. We know screaming (If its very loud) is against the rules.

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-10 22:51:21


At 10/10/24 10:47 PM, Mboy600 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/390307
Are we still going to keep this song. This was mentioned in this forum many times in the last 10 years, due to the screaming, especially at 0:22 and 0:33. We know screaming (If its very loud) is against the rules.


it seems to me that it is more or less clipped, so maybe it will not be deleted

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-10 22:54:12 (edited 2024-10-10 22:54:48)


At 10/10/24 10:14 PM, Mboy600 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1366027
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1106127
Windows Xp Error Sound
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1365912
Fast edition of Blast. Well it's a remix but it still has the sample of the original. I didn't mark it
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1191428
Windows opening sound
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1074100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkVcdZZfyek
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1051309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNXzMBA9VU4
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/784559
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/669541
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/610701
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/659076
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/614745
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/619691
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGCSD6AHv5U Oh boy, searching in "little einsteins" gave me this huge load.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1251614
Extremely loud (Didn't mark)
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1074419
Oh my ears once again
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/681379
Hey buddy, this song is finally on NG posted by F-77 now
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/669261
What the heck why? What do you mean use it for GD? Its already on NG


what about the remix to Blast Processing. I don't think it will be deleted, since the song itself is on Newgrounds, however, it can be attributed to a low-grade remix consisting of the usual drum sounds, most likely it's even a drum loop from looperman.

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-11 00:02:59


At 10/10/24 10:22 PM, Mboy600 wrote:But no need to say you stole it, its trash, or it sucks


Those last two would not be against the reviewing guidelines to my knowledge. According to that and the abusive review guide that's still linked in the FAQ (albeit it contains a fair bit of outdated information most of it still stands), you can basically say what you want about a given submission so long as you don't attack the author or other reviewers.


Unless I am misreading something in which case it would be appreciated if a mod chimed in to correct me if I'm wrong.


At 10/10/24 10:14 PM, Mboy600 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1365912
Fast edition of Blast. Well it's a remix but it still has the sample of the original. I didn't mark it


You should, it's basically just a drum loop playing over the source material; there's no amount of real effort put into those kinds of "remixes".

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-11 18:05:27


Uhhhhh... this dude is back.


Fresh off the AI model:


He's probably going to have the same argument as last time, that the instruments are real and the vocals are AI, but I'm calling BS. It's all made by Suno AI. Listen to the guitar around 01:35. It sounds exactly like how Suno replicates acoustic guitars (not very well). Obviously the vocals are AI, there's no hiding that. I was going to run it through a spectrogram, but he didn't even bother to change the bitrate in the metadata, which still says 192kbps, the exact max output of Suno AI. If it wasn't clear before that this is an AI uploader, we have this now. I decided to run it through the spectrogram anyway, and what do you know, there's a perfect cutoff at 19kHz, again showing that the bitrate was originally 192kbps, the max output of Suno AI. @ADR3-N, can you please take a look?


Metadata:

iu_1283082_8914923.png


Spectrogram:

iu_1283083_8914923.webp


Also, since I have people's attention on it, does anyone else think that his previous songs are also made by Suno AI? I have reported some of them before and they are still up. Looking back on it, I think some of them might have drum tracks thrown on top of the Suno song to make it crisper, but it's not easy to tell. I think the top one, "Nursery Rhymes and Metal Crimes", is entirely made with Suno though, as everything from the vocals to the guitar sound screechy and annoying (in a very Suno-like fashion). Also, it has a bitrate of 192kbps, the max output of Suno AI. All the ones other than that I am less certain on. They all obviously used some AI, but I'm not sure to what extent and if it's allowed on Newgrounds.


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Other junk I found:


Suno AI:


Stolen:


Multiple identical uploads:


Spam:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-10-12 10:18:43 (edited 2024-10-12 10:19:50)


here is the link/copyrighted song: https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1366424


he is just singing over this song right here/the OG song: https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/482872