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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-23 12:54:25 (edited 2023-02-23 12:55:02)


At 2/23/23 12:46 PM, Seth wrote:
At 2/23/23 11:25 AM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/23/23 09:15 AM, tox wrote:
At 2/23/23 07:08 AM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/22/23 09:47 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/22/23 04:01 PM, g2961 wrote:I don't mark this track as a track that violates the rules of the site, I just want to ask a question.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1153434
This is a remix of "Crim3s - Lost", and I have one question. Can this be posted here? It's just that when I talked to Tom Fulp about unban, he said that it would be risky to restore my Phonk remix of this track, since it could violate copyright. My remix has no copyright, there are no vocals in it, just 4 notes that are mixed with other instruments. Can I put my phonk remix back? Also, it does not have similar synths from the original.

I listened to the track and read your question a few times, you have confused me with your question

Are you saying that your track was removed because it was similar to this track that you posted? It was inspired by that track and it sounded somewhat similar and was thusly removed? That track is Unrelated to your track and you just want our opinion?

What is the direct question that you want to ask and what are the direct issue's or problems in the equation or what kind of answer are you looking for, from us

Currently I would say that/this track is ok to be posted and remain up because it sounds unique even if it shares some similarities with other tracks that I have heard in the past

I meant that I had a remix of this original track, but it was deleted, so I decided to ask if I could get my remix back. I can send a link to my remix and you will tell me if I can get it back to my account.

Post a link to The audio so that we can listen, please do not upload it to newgrounds until you have permission to upload directly to newgrounds for this track, the 3 people are:
@pingu
@lexrodent
@tomfulp

Equally you can post your link and question/issue in:
https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1489791

Your question will likely be handled by pingu in 1-3 days depending on schedules

However if you've already brought this to the attention of Tom, and Tom said "no" then you are likely trying to do something that can't be done with a positive outcome for yourself

Here's my remix - https://youtu.be/ZNtUg0ERB_o
So, you're saying that you and the other guy remixed the same song, and yours was removed for copyright. I do agree that in fairness, either the other remix should be removed or yours restored. Only exception to this would be if this other guy paid for licensing and you didn't.


Even if he has paid, he must write it on description, otherwise the remix must be deleted.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-23 13:00:32


At 2/23/23 12:46 PM, Seth wrote:
At 2/23/23 11:25 AM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/23/23 09:15 AM, tox wrote:
At 2/23/23 07:08 AM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/22/23 09:47 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/22/23 04:01 PM, g2961 wrote:I don't mark this track as a track that violates the rules of the site, I just want to ask a question.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1153434
This is a remix of "Crim3s - Lost", and I have one question. Can this be posted here? It's just that when I talked to Tom Fulp about unban, he said that it would be risky to restore my Phonk remix of this track, since it could violate copyright. My remix has no copyright, there are no vocals in it, just 4 notes that are mixed with other instruments. Can I put my phonk remix back? Also, it does not have similar synths from the original.

I listened to the track and read your question a few times, you have confused me with your question

Are you saying that your track was removed because it was similar to this track that you posted? It was inspired by that track and it sounded somewhat similar and was thusly removed? That track is Unrelated to your track and you just want our opinion?

What is the direct question that you want to ask and what are the direct issue's or problems in the equation or what kind of answer are you looking for, from us

Currently I would say that/this track is ok to be posted and remain up because it sounds unique even if it shares some similarities with other tracks that I have heard in the past

I meant that I had a remix of this original track, but it was deleted, so I decided to ask if I could get my remix back. I can send a link to my remix and you will tell me if I can get it back to my account.

Post a link to The audio so that we can listen, please do not upload it to newgrounds until you have permission to upload directly to newgrounds for this track, the 3 people are:
@pingu
@lexrodent
@tomfulp

Equally you can post your link and question/issue in:
https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1489791

Your question will likely be handled by pingu in 1-3 days depending on schedules

However if you've already brought this to the attention of Tom, and Tom said "no" then you are likely trying to do something that can't be done with a positive outcome for yourself

Here's my remix - https://youtu.be/ZNtUg0ERB_o
So, you're saying that you and the other guy remixed the same song, and yours was removed for copyright. I do agree that in fairness, either the other remix should be removed or yours restored. Only exception to this would be if this other guy paid for licensing and you didn't.


No! The fact is that my remix does not have any copyrights, that is, it is not written that it has any copyrighted materials. It has a different sound, everything has been changed in it, only the notes from the original remained, and I have redone the rest, it is even audible.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-23 14:49:27 (edited 2023-02-23 14:50:17)


At 2/22/23 03:42 PM, g2961 wrote:Reupload of my remix.
Fake - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1195971
Original - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1176144
I hope that at least it will not be marked as false, as it is unpleasant when your work is reupload on other account.


In general, the main thing for me now is to delete reupload of my remix, and that's all.

Update: Deleted! Thanks!


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-24 01:09:56


At 2/23/23 01:00 PM, g2961 wrote:
No! The fact is that my remix does not have any copyrights, that is, it is not written that it has any copyrighted materials. It has a different sound, everything has been changed in it, only the notes from the original remained, and I have redone the rest, it is even audible.


Hello mate.

For any future reference regarding any cover , remake or remix from any artist signed to a record label :

If you don't have proper license from the artist , their label and/or rights manager , it's better not to publish it in here.


Also idk where so many people got the very very wrong idea of copyright being only on the vocals :|

That's absolutely false.

Every part of every published work of every professional musician can be subjected to copyright.


Musicians make music , producers make products. * drops mic :D

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-24 01:18:13


At 2/24/23 01:09 AM, LexRodent wrote:
At 2/23/23 01:00 PM, g2961 wrote:
No! The fact is that my remix does not have any copyrights, that is, it is not written that it has any copyrighted materials. It has a different sound, everything has been changed in it, only the notes from the original remained, and I have redone the rest, it is even audible.

Hello mate.
For any future reference regarding any cover , remake or remix from any artist signed to a record label :
If you don't have proper license from the artist , their label and/or rights manager , it's better not to publish it in here.

Also idk where so many people got the very very wrong idea of copyright being only on the vocals :|
That's absolutely false.
Every part of every published work of every professional musician can be subjected to copyright.


surely though, you don't want us pulling the trigger on audio that broadly though... that rule entales and encompasses a lot if you apply a certain level of malicious compliance


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-24 01:36:25 (edited 2023-02-24 01:37:37)


At 2/24/23 01:18 AM, tox wrote:
At 2/24/23 01:09 AM, LexRodent wrote:For any future reference regarding any cover , remake or remix from any artist signed to a record label :
If you don't have proper license from the artist , their label and/or rights manager , it's better not to publish it in here.

Also idk where so many people got the very very wrong idea of copyright being only on the vocals :|
That's absolutely false.
Every part of every published work of every professional musician can be subjected to copyright.

surely though, you don't want us pulling the trigger on audio that broadly though... that rule entales and encompasses a lot if you apply a certain level of malicious compliance


I get what you mean my good fellow.

If we all wanted to play 100 % by the book we'll need to purge a huuuuuge chunk of the audio portal :D

But sadly there's no simpler way to avoid people pushing their luck too far, risking to make NG the target of massive scrutiny by the big copyright law pushers (a.k.a. media corporations , music labels and all of those unscrupulous distribution services).

That would ruin the fun for the rest of us :(


Musicians make music , producers make products. * drops mic :D

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-24 04:37:43


Reupload of my remix.

This is a re-upload of an old version of my remix, it was called "KOCMOC (EDM)", but I deleted it because it sounded bad. This person downloaded my old version once and re-uploaded it to himself. It 's audible even by ear. If you think I'm lying, then I can provide a project from the DAW program in which I did it.

Original - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1194021

Fake - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1196659


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-24 08:13:17


At 2/24/23 04:37 AM, g2961 wrote:Reupload of my remix.
This is a re-upload of an old version of my remix, it was called "KOCMOC (EDM)", but I deleted it because it sounded bad. This person downloaded my old version once and re-uploaded it to himself. It 's audible even by ear. If you think I'm lying, then I can provide a project from the DAW program in which I did it.
Original - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1194021
Fake - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1196659


I restored my original version - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1191647?updated=1677244364


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-25 18:09:03 (edited 2023-02-25 18:09:57)


I searched up "laulu" hoping to find some Finnish bangers! And found:

This looked suspicious from the get go

So I googled the title and yup, stolen content

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4_DGIm7_cs


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-26 11:45:16


Can you feel my heart, pitch-shifted Reupload.

Original - https://youtu.be/QJJYpsA5tv8

Fake - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1148508


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-26 11:48:35


Mashup of a commercial song


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-26 11:52:54 (edited 2023-02-26 11:54:06)


Mashup of commercial music again.

So also stolen. https://youtu.be/8NQDlXczs04


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-28 17:45:58 (edited 2023-02-28 17:46:39)



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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-28 17:48:44


Slowed version of KOCMOC


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-28 17:50:02


Pitch shift down KOCMOC.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 10:08:32


Have the moderators stopped watching here at all? Because I have already left links to re-uploads 4 days ago, but no one deletes them.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 10:49:03


At 3/3/23 10:08 AM, g2961 wrote:Have the moderators stopped watching here at all? Because I have already left links to re-uploads 4 days ago, but no one deletes them.

Maybe you've spammed the thread with so many posts and comments that now it's all noise instead of discussion. To report rule breaking items, flag them. BBS threads are for discussion, not the method for reporting submissions. But also, be patient. Mods don't have schedules where we work from 8-5 and get paid every payday. We volunteer our time and effort and donate time out of our lives to keep this site great.

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 11:00:06


At 3/3/23 10:49 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 3/3/23 10:08 AM, g2961 wrote:Have the moderators stopped watching here at all? Because I have already left links to re-uploads 4 days ago, but no one deletes them.
Maybe you've spammed the thread with so many posts and comments that now it's all noise instead of discussion. To report rule breaking items, flag them. BBS threads are for discussion, not the method for reporting submissions. But also, be patient. Mods don't have schedules where we work from 8-5 and get paid every payday. We volunteer our time and effort and donate time out of our lives to keep this site great.


Specifically, this topic is needed to clean up the audio portal, not a discussion.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 11:02:33


At 3/3/23 10:56 AM, Seth wrote:
At 3/3/23 10:49 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 3/3/23 10:08 AM, g2961 wrote:Have the moderators stopped watching here at all? Because I have already left links to re-uploads 4 days ago, but no one deletes them.
Maybe you've spammed the thread with so many posts and comments that now it's all noise instead of discussion. To report rule breaking items, flag them. BBS threads are for discussion, not the method for reporting submissions. But also, be patient. Mods don't have schedules where we work from 8-5 and get paid every payday. We volunteer our time and effort and donate time out of our lives to keep this site great.
Well, shit, I remember a certain person digging up a ton of stolen content in 2016. It was overwhelming to the point where they made that person a mod lol


I actually found too much stolen content, but I couldn't properly explain that they were stolen, but I'm sure of it, since I checked them for copyright.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 11:04:43


At 3/3/23 10:42 AM, Seth wrote:
At 3/3/23 10:08 AM, g2961 wrote:Have the moderators stopped watching here at all? Because I have already left links to re-uploads 4 days ago, but no one deletes them.
I'm watching, but I'm not a mod. Sorry.
Also, did you link the source? Shit ton of poasts in this thread, I'm not gonna remember everything.


I'll add links later, but the main thing for me is to have my work re-uploaded. I mean that:

iu_911811_12226332.webp


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 11:06:08 (edited 2023-03-03 11:06:25)


At 3/3/23 10:49 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 3/3/23 10:08 AM, g2961 wrote:Have the moderators stopped watching here at all? Because I have already left links to re-uploads 4 days ago, but no one deletes them.
Maybe you've spammed the thread with so many posts and comments that now it's all noise instead of discussion. To report rule breaking items, flag them. BBS threads are for discussion, not the method for reporting submissions. But also, be patient. Mods don't have schedules where we work from 8-5 and get paid every payday. We volunteer our time and effort and donate time out of our lives to keep this site great.

Okay, but it's just that mods were usually removed within two days, and here it's 4 days, but okay.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 11:09:46


At 3/3/23 11:05 AM, Seth wrote:
At 3/3/23 11:02 AM, g2961 wrote:
At 3/3/23 10:56 AM, Seth wrote:
At 3/3/23 10:49 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 3/3/23 10:08 AM, g2961 wrote:Have the moderators stopped watching here at all? Because I have already left links to re-uploads 4 days ago, but no one deletes them.
Maybe you've spammed the thread with so many posts and comments that now it's all noise instead of discussion. To report rule breaking items, flag them. BBS threads are for discussion, not the method for reporting submissions. But also, be patient. Mods don't have schedules where we work from 8-5 and get paid every payday. We volunteer our time and effort and donate time out of our lives to keep this site great.
Well, shit, I remember a certain person digging up a ton of stolen content in 2016. It was overwhelming to the point where they made that person a mod lol

I actually found too much stolen content, but I couldn't properly explain that they were stolen, but I'm sure of it, since I checked them for copyright.
This is a bit of a conundrum that I've solved by posting in this thread saying that I can't pinpoint the source, but I believe it may be stolen, someone please help. I tend to keep posts like that to a minimum and isolated from posts where I know the source and link it below the link to the stolen track.


But no, they are deleted.

iu_911815_12226332.webpiu_911816_12226332.webp


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 11:12:18


At 3/3/23 10:56 AM, Seth wrote:
At 3/3/23 10:49 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 3/3/23 10:08 AM, g2961 wrote:Have the moderators stopped watching here at all? Because I have already left links to re-uploads 4 days ago, but no one deletes them.
Maybe you've spammed the thread with so many posts and comments that now it's all noise instead of discussion. To report rule breaking items, flag them. BBS threads are for discussion, not the method for reporting submissions. But also, be patient. Mods don't have schedules where we work from 8-5 and get paid every payday. We volunteer our time and effort and donate time out of our lives to keep this site great.
Well, shit, I remember a certain person digging up a ton of stolen content in 2016. It was overwhelming to the point where they made that person a mod lol


If I had been on this site in 2016, I would also have found a lot of stolen tracks, as NG struggled with this because GD players used pirated music in this game.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 12:50:42


The BBS is for discussions primarily


This thread is built to be the stepping stone between

I think that this submission is flagable for 1, 2, 3, can someone help me out to figure it out

And

Should we flag this submission


If you want to post an item your post should look something like this:

###########


1. Basic description of the problem, basic explanation of the situation

2. Link to the original content you are referencing

3. Link to the content you are having problems with

4. Further explanation on the topic

##########


If you follow that format, you will have much much higher success in flagging submissions correctly, and having timely responses to your problems. The more people that can flag a submission with correct details, the faster the response will be


1 person flaging, 1 week before reply.

3 people flagging, 2 days before reply.

8 people or more, a few hours before reply.


People just need to be able to understand and follow what you're trying to convey, a lot of the posts that you make. I have no idea who are you are trying to reference, what time period in the submissions that you're trying to reference, the given audio that you're trying to reference. So I can't really do anything. I'm sure that it's the same for a lot of other people


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 12:54:16


My offer still stands. If you want me to give you an example of how I flag audio, I seem to have a very high success rate with any of the flags that I put down.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 13:03:31 (edited 2023-03-03 13:03:54)


At 3/3/23 12:50 PM, tox wrote:The BBS is for discussions primarily

This thread is built to be the stepping stone between
I think that this submission is flagable for 1, 2, 3, can someone help me out to figure it out
And
Should we flag this submission

If you want to post an item your post should look something like this:
###########

1. Basic description of the problem, basic explanation of the situation
2. Link to the original content you are referencing
3. Link to the content you are having problems with
4. Further explanation on the topic
##########

If you follow that format, you will have much much higher success in flagging submissions correctly, and having timely responses to your problems. The more people that can flag a submission with correct details, the faster the response will be

1 person flaging, 1 week before reply.
3 people flagging, 2 days before reply.
8 people or more, a few hours before reply.

People just need to be able to understand and follow what you're trying to convey, a lot of the posts that you make. I have no idea who are you are trying to reference, what time period in the submissions that you're trying to reference, the given audio that you're trying to reference. So I can't really do anything. I'm sure that it's the same for a lot of other people

OK, thanks for the example! Now this is the only way I will mark if it was unclear before where it was stolen.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 13:04:34


At 3/3/23 12:54 PM, tox wrote:My offer still stands. If you want me to give you an example of how I flag audio, I seem to have a very high success rate with any of the flags that I put down.


Can you give an example to consolidate this example?


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 14:11:12


At 3/3/23 01:04 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 3/3/23 12:54 PM, tox wrote:My offer still stands. If you want me to give you an example of how I flag audio, I seem to have a very high success rate with any of the flags that I put down.

Can you give an example to consolidate this example?


When I get home in a few hours and have my headphones I can do this


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-03-03 14:49:12


At 3/3/23 02:11 PM, tox wrote:
At 3/3/23 01:04 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 3/3/23 12:54 PM, tox wrote:My offer still stands. If you want me to give you an example of how I flag audio, I seem to have a very high success rate with any of the flags that I put down.

Can you give an example to consolidate this example?

When I get home in a few hours and have my headphones I can do this


Okay!


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