At 3/30/07 01:53 PM, Nev wrote: So if "Mall" kids started listening to Kali Yuga... Kali Yuga would be Mallcore?

Probably. Though the likeliness of that happening is close to zero.

You have to remember, the only reason we do this is because there used to be a bevy of people trying to get in on a list of MTVMetal bands.

Slayer is true metal, no doubt, but if I had a nickel for every slipknot kiddie who thought he was metal cuz he listened to Slayer, I'd be richer than rich.

At 3/30/07 02:08 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Probably. Though the likeliness of that happening is close to zero.

I think calling a band mallcore cause fags listen to them is stupid. Its not like the music changes depending on the audience that listen to it.

Slayer is true metal, no doubt, but if I had a nickel for every slipknot kiddie who thought he was metal cuz he listened to Slayer, I'd be richer than rich.

That is true.... I think bands like Slayer, Arch Enemy, etc should only be count towards a person list if the rest of the list shows tr00ness. If the list includes the majority of actual -core acts, then again true metal bands should be ignored.

At 3/30/07 11:55 AM, Nev wrote:

The False positive thing has been eradicated I believe.

Popular and/or mediocre then.

Either way, it's a weak list.

At 3/30/07 02:29 PM, Nev wrote:

At 3/30/07 02:08 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Probably. Though the likeliness of that happening is close to zero.

I think calling a band mallcore cause fags listen to them is stupid. Its not like the music changes depending on the audience that listen to it.

I don't give a shit about the music when people are trying to enter. I care about the person entering. Now, if that person listens to music that mallfags listen to, chances are they're a mallfag too.

Slayer is true metal, no doubt, but if I had a nickel for every slipknot kiddie who thought he was metal cuz he listened to Slayer, I'd be richer than rich.

That is true.... I think bands like Slayer, Arch Enemy, etc should only be count towards a person list if the rest of the list shows tr00ness. If the list includes the majority of actual -core acts, then again true metal bands should be ignored.

That's the exact philosophy of false positives, my friend. They're circumstantial evidence of sorts; they only mean something when they display knowledge of other metal bands.

Hey guys, i'm doing a presentation on Metal music for my music class in about 2 months and I was wondering if you guys could help me. Specifically about what I should focus on. I'm going to base it around what the guy from Metal: a headbangers journey talked about, the main categories/defining points/dee snyders ocurt appearance. Anyways I was wondering if you guys could give me a little help and give me some info on what i should talk about or focus on. Any information would be appreciated. The main genres im going to concentrate on are Power/Death/Black/Mainstream metal as my presentation has to be around 30 minutes in length. By the way i've been listening to metal for about a year now and feel that i'm just discovering it. When i started listening to it I thought Metallica was the greatest band then I started hearing about more bands like Judas Priest/Black Sabbath and my interest only grew to where i'm at today.

So thats my help request/introduction speech since being accepted here a week or so ago lol.

I bought Jesu's new album Conqueror.

I love it.

At 3/30/07 03:28 PM, OfTheBirds wrote: I bought Jesu's new album Conqueror.

I love it.

I could of let you borrow it.

Hi little bro.

Can anyone here tell me what Kali Yuga is? Ghoul mentioned it on the first page.

At 3/30/07 03:44 PM, Kronik-The-Echidna wrote: Can anyone here tell me what Kali Yuga is? Ghoul mentioned it on the first page.

It's Ghoul's band.

At 3/30/07 03:48 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote:

At 3/30/07 03:44 PM, Kronik-The-Echidna wrote: Can anyone here tell me what Kali Yuga is? Ghoul mentioned it on the first page.

It's Ghoul's band.

More specifically, it's my one man project. My black metal band is Angband, and it has 4 members so far.

At 3/30/07 04:07 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: More specifically, it's my one man project. My black metal band is Angband, and it has 4 members so far.

Blah blah blah, specifics.

Angband? Please explain.

At 3/30/07 01:25 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: I'll run a list:

No, you won't run any list there.

"Mallcore audience" - you can't prove that anyone is mallcore just because they listen to some of these bands. This "list" you made sucks ass, to be honest.

False positives and anything similar to that are officially ELIMINATED. Got it, people? ;)

Alright, but I'm all for the information list of bands which generally cause rejection. I'll have my input here and all who have possible bands for this list, tell me and I'll update it later.

Alphabetical order please.

List of bands which are commonly mistaken as being METAL

Adema
American Head Charge
Atreyu
Avenged Sevenfold
Bullet for My Valentine
Coal Chamber
Deftones
Devil Driver
Disturbed
Drowning Pool
Evanescence
Godsmack
Hatebreed
Linkin Park
Mushroomhead
Marilyn Manson
Mudvayne
Otep
Papa Roach
Poison the Well
Rage Against the Machine
Rammstein
Rob Zombie
Slipknot
Soulfly
Soil
Staind
Static X
Stone Sour
System of a Down

Those where the first ones that came to my mind. Feel free to add bands, I'll comply a major list laster.

At 3/29/07 06:32 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Pelican.

Pelican is awesome.

At 3/30/07 04:28 PM, Goatchrist wrote: Those where the first ones that came to my mind. Feel free to add bands, I'll comply a major list laster.

The only additions I can think of are Cold, Five Bolt Main, and Flaw .

At 3/30/07 04:28 PM, Goatchrist wrote: Those where the first ones that came to my mind. Feel free to add bands, I'll comply a major list laster.

Trivium?

At 3/30/07 04:28 PM, Goatchrist wrote: Those where the first ones that came to my mind. Feel free to add bands, I'll comply a major list laster.

You listed pretty much every band that I first thought of. The only additions I can think of are right now are Korn, Sevendust, Spineshank, Lostprophets, Kittie and Ill Nino.

Def Leppard
Guns N' Roses
Killswitch Engage
Kiss
Led Zeppelin
Motley Crue
Tool

Are all said quite often too.

Nice, keep them coming.

When the list is complete, I should probably ask a mod if he could edit the first post of the hell? Might work for our favor.

At 3/30/07 06:24 PM, Goatchrist wrote: Nice, keep them coming.

When the list is complete, I should probably ask a mod if he could edit the first post of the hell? Might work for our favor.

Lets all point a Sam for not being a mod anymore...

*points*

At 3/30/07 06:24 PM, Goatchrist wrote: Nice, keep them coming.

When the list is complete, I should probably ask a mod if he could edit the first post of the hell? Might work for our favor.

The only problem is that mods can't edit posts. Ask Wade.

At 3/30/07 04:28 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 3/30/07 01:25 PM, ElGhoulio wrote:

List of bands which are commonly mistaken as being METAL

All That Remains
As I Lay Dying
Lacuna Coil (guessing they're nu metal, haven't really heard anything by them)
Norma Jean
Shadows Fall (I think)
all I can think of right now

Mudvayne
Slipknot
KoRn
Limp Bizkit
AC/DC
Atreyu
Anal Cunt(?)
The Locust(? as well)
KMFDM(?)

At 3/30/07 04:40 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 3/29/07 06:32 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Pelican.

Pelican is awesome.

You, sir, are completely right. Nightandday and Drought are my favorite Pelican songs.

H.I.M.
Lamb Of God
Bullet For my Valentine
36 Crazyfists
Orgy
Deftones
Motograter

Anyway, I bought The Sound of Perserverance by Death. It's pretty awesome. It also came with a live DVD too.

At 3/30/07 08:34 PM, Kronik-The-Echidna wrote: H.I.M.

I have no idea how they can be mistaken for metal.

At 3/30/07 08:43 PM, 0peth wrote:

At 3/30/07 08:34 PM, Kronik-The-Echidna wrote: H.I.M.

I have no idea how they can be mistaken for metal.

You'd be very surprised.

At 3/30/07 08:46 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote:

At 3/30/07 08:43 PM, 0peth wrote:

At 3/30/07 08:34 PM, Kronik-The-Echidna wrote: H.I.M.

I have no idea how they can be mistaken for metal.

You'd be very surprised.

A Mission UK rip-off being metal? Pfftt.

I just looked them up and found out that one of their albums was called "Love Metal" so maybe that might have caused some confusion. Not that the people who wear HIM clothes actually even listen to their music.

=/

At 3/30/07 08:43 PM, 0peth wrote:

At 3/30/07 08:34 PM, Kronik-The-Echidna wrote: H.I.M.

I have no idea how they can be mistaken for metal.

Some people do think they are Metal. Some people actually have called them Metal. They even call themselves Metal.

dimmu borgir, cradle of filth, othep, dragonforce, in flames, children of bodom and some more stuff...

At 3/30/07 08:59 PM, DwarfGlock wrote: dimmu borgir

Older would be acceptable, really.

.....and you can blame all this false metal shit on bam margera and the likes. I mean dont get me wrong i think jackass and don vito are funny as shit but lack in music taste horribly.

Biggest pet peeve bands of mine that people in my area consider metal are as follows....

Bullet for my valentine
Disturbed
Slipknot
Hatebreed