At 5/13/06 12:01 AM, CowsCanBark wrote: What the fuck is your point? They're a metal band, and certainly more death/grind influenced than metalcore/hardcore. They just do a great job of combining the genres.

Oh nah man. God forbid a band to have fun on stage and not wear all black and have short hair. How unmetal.

But seriously, Despised Icon are a fucking brilliant band. About the closest I've found to Dying Fetuses style of slam death metal.

At 5/12/06 11:39 PM, Iron_Fist wrote: http://www.returntot..=depsied_icon028.jpg
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So you judge a band based on their appearance?
How shallow of you.

At 5/13/06 06:25 AM, -Nev- wrote: So you judge a band based on their appearance?
How shallow of you.

oi nah man, it's cool, because he's from mtvhell. lol.

At 5/13/06 06:31 AM, CptnJarrrrrydn wrote:

At 5/13/06 06:25 AM, -Nev- wrote: So you judge a band based on their appearance?
How shallow of you.

oi nah man, it's cool, because he's from mtvhell. lol.

you bastard! >:U

Goatchrist, my review for Monumentum has been accepted.

At 5/13/06 11:43 AM, CowsCanBark wrote: Goatchrist, my review for Monumentum has been accepted.

I read it already, thank you a lot, it's a very generous review ;) glad you liked my album.

Ghoul, I'm working on booklets, art, etc. and I'm in a hurry, but just remind me of your request for Warwolf in two weeks, then I got time :)

At 5/13/06 12:22 AM, Kronik_The_Hedgehog wrote: So, basically you listen to what other websites tell you, and are only concerned who the people are in the band. Is that correct?

NO. I saw them open for Morbid Angel, and they sucked. A lot. All the slam wiggers who are into br00tal pr0nagrafik g0re metal and the -core idiots like them. The pictures of them are to emphasize their suck. If they looked like idiots and played good music, I'd still like them (e.g. Devin Townsend). However, the point is they look like idiots and play bad music. That makes them suck.

At 5/13/06 04:18 AM, CptnJarrrrrydn wrote:

At 5/13/06 12:01 AM, CowsCanBark wrote: What the fuck is your point? They're a metal band, and certainly more death/grind influenced than metalcore/hardcore. They just do a great job of combining the genres.

Oh nah man. God forbid a band to have fun on stage and not wear all black and have short hair. How unmetal.

But seriously, Despised Icon are a fucking brilliant band. About the closest I've found to Dying Fetuses style of slam death metal.

Figures. Slam death metal is the most generic of all metal genres. Every band writes the exact same riff for every single song except for when they don't have riffs and just play random notes as BR00TAL and fast as they can. When did you guys start listening to metal? Last month or something?

"It doesnt matter when i started listening to metal your a fuckin elitist lol"

People who just started listening to metal listen to crap like Despised Icon and Dying Fetus. I also noticed how a lot of you clowns think that goregrind is the best, heaviest type of music there is. The true sign of a n00b.

At 5/13/06 02:10 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 5/13/06 11:43 AM, CowsCanBark wrote: Goatchrist, my review for Monumentum has been accepted.

I read it already, thank you a lot, it's a very generous review ;) glad you liked my album.

I would review, but since we're friends, my review won't be objective, thus I find it hard to review. You know?

Ghoul, I'm working on booklets, art, etc. and I'm in a hurry, but just remind me of your request for Warwolf in two weeks, then I got time :)

Thanks for your effort. The label head won't be disappointed, our new album is gonna be the deepest and strongest CD we've made.

At 5/13/06 05:28 PM, Iron_Fist wrote:

At 5/13/06 04:18 AM, CptnJarrrrrydn wrote:

At 5/13/06 12:01 AM, CowsCanBark wrote: What the fuck is your point? They're a metal band, and certainly more death/grind influenced than metalcore/hardcore. They just do a great job of combining the genres.

Oh nah man. God forbid a band to have fun on stage and not wear all black and have short hair. How unmetal.

But seriously, Despised Icon are a fucking brilliant band. About the closest I've found to Dying Fetuses style of slam death metal.

Figures. Slam death metal is the most generic of all metal genres. Every band writes the exact same riff for every single song except for when they don't have riffs and just play random notes as BR00TAL and fast as they can. When did you guys start listening to metal? Last month or something?

I can't agree with you more. Is Slam Death Metal goregrind? Or at least related to it? Cuz I think goregrind is the single most overrated genre ever. The lyrics, vocals, and guitars are all the same. I can't stand most goregrind vocals, it's all sounding like the singer's getting a swirly. They never enunciate, which bugs me. It sounds like "ruhruhruhruhruhruhruhruhruhr" over a bunch of noise, for when the guitarist(s) lose whatever inspiration they have and revert to random noise.

"It doesnt matter when i started listening to metal your a fuckin elitist lol"

People who just started listening to metal listen to crap like Despised Icon and Dying Fetus. I also noticed how a lot of you clowns think that goregrind is the best, heaviest type of music there is. The true sign of a n00b.

People who just started listening to metal listen to metalcore and goregrind. They usually think they know everything about metal, and then they decide not to listen to anything else, because apparently nothing can get better than random noise. Though I do appreciate random noise (Merzbow) at least he does it well, and isn't under the pretense of actually being music. Blastbeats and noise riffs and incorrigible vocals music does not make. Captain Jarrydn probably started off with metalcore or goregrind, and hasn't moved away from it since (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about your musical history, Jarry) and occasionally listens to death/black metal, but can't accept that other genres of metal are valid. Personally, I think for every 10000 goregrind or metalcore bands there are, there are maybe 3 or 4 good ones. But I can accept that it's what some people like.

I love Despised Icon, but did not just start listening to metal. If you look in my profile my favorite bands are among the black metal genre and a few others. I listen to all metal, which is anything from emo metalcore (Killswitch Engage) to raw black metal (Behexen, Goat Penis). And to be honest, grind-like bands are not really my style, I just happen to think Despised Icon are pretty swell at mixing four genres.

Be quiet with your elitist bullshit Iron. It's like everytime you post that's all you're about, is how much a band sucks. I listen to the stuff you listen to, I'm not some emo, painted fingernail, eyeliner wearing mallcore kid. I know you're just stating your opinion, but the "It sucks because it's trendy" manner you present it in is quite an annoyance.

Iron Fist, I've been listening to metal for 7 or 8 years.

If listening to Despised Icon and other metalcore/goregrind bands makes me a n00b, then I don't care. I feel sorry for people like you who clinically over analyse music to the point where they can't enjoy anything.

Ghoul, I started out on bands like Korn back when I was 11. Then I got into stuff like Amorphis. Then started getting into CC/Deicide style death metal. I even progressed onto black metal for a while. And there was probably a 3 or 4 year gap in my life when I absolutely despised anything core or nu. But I'm over that now. If I like a certain type of music, I'm going to listen to it.

I hate it when people who don't know enough about a genre comment on how it's all the same, the same over-used riffs, the same vocals etc, because that is a pile of shit. I could say the exact same for black metal, but I don't, because I don't know enough about the genre, and it's not the music I listen to.

At 5/13/06 08:34 PM, CptnJarrrrrydn wrote:

Ghoul, I started out on bands like Korn back when I was 11. Then I got into stuff like Amorphis. Then started getting into CC/Deicide style death metal. I even progressed onto black metal for a while. And there was probably a 3 or 4 year gap in my life when I absolutely despised anything core or nu. But I'm over that now. If I like a certain type of music, I'm going to listen to it.

Cool, but Korn isn't metal. I know about your limited bm forays, but Mayhem's GDoW doesn't qualify as metal. There was a time in my life when I despised bm, but then I grew out of it. Personally, tho, I like to have reason for listening to music.

I hate it when people who don't know enough about a genre comment on how it's all the same, the same over-used riffs, the same vocals etc, because that is a pile of shit. I could say the exact same for black metal, but I don't, because I don't know enough about the genre, and it's not the music I listen to.

Then YOU tell me: What IS goregrind? Is my assessment of it true? Is it all blasting drums, blasting guitars, and "ruh ruh ruh" vocals?

At 5/13/06 11:30 PM, The_Ghoul wrote:

but Mayhem's GDoW doesn't qualify as metal.

*BLACK metal. Sorry, typo.

At 5/13/06 11:30 PM, The_Ghoul wrote:

At 5/13/06 08:34 PM, CptnJarrrrrydn wrote:

Cool, but Korn isn't metal. I know about your limited bm forays, but Mayhem's GDoW doesn't qualify as metal. There was a time in my life when I despised bm, but then I grew out of it. Personally, tho, I like to have reason for listening to music.

It is in my opinion. And even if it isn't, it still marks where my metal roots began. Also, I didn't just listen to Mayhem, I listened to Darkthrone, Dark Funeral, Marduk, Immortal, Emperor (still do), Zyklon (still do), Tvangeste, Dimmu, and at the moment I'm quite fond of Anorexia Nervosa, though I'm not sure if they count.

I hate it when people who don't know enough about a genre comment on how it's all the same, the same over-used riffs, the same vocals etc, because that is a pile of shit. I could say the exact same for black metal, but I don't, because I don't know enough about the genre, and it's not the music I listen to.

Then YOU tell me: What IS goregrind? Is my assessment of it true? Is it all blasting drums, blasting guitars, and "ruh ruh ruh" vocals?

Sure, your assesment is kind of true. Well...not really. Yes there's blasts. Not all the time though. And the guitars are in no way random. And yeah, they do "ruh ruh ruh" vocals as you put it, but that's the vocal style I enjoy, so it hardly matters to me. It's more pleasing to my ears than say for instance...the forced Immortal croak. My god, seriously, if there is a vocal styling in metal that is laughable today, it would be that.

Look, I don't want to argue about this, because neither of us is going to see reason.

At 5/13/06 11:38 PM, CptnJarrrrrydn wrote:

At 5/13/06 11:30 PM, The_Ghoul wrote:

At 5/13/06 08:34 PM, CptnJarrrrrydn wrote:

Cool, but Korn isn't metal. I know about your limited bm forays, but Mayhem's GDoW doesn't qualify as metal. There was a time in my life when I despised bm, but then I grew out of it. Personally, tho, I like to have reason for listening to music.

It is in my opinion. And even if it isn't, it still marks where my metal roots began. Also, I didn't just listen to Mayhem, I listened to Darkthrone, Dark Funeral, Marduk, Immortal, Emperor (still do), Zyklon (still do), Tvangeste, Dimmu, and at the moment I'm quite fond of Anorexia Nervosa, though I'm not sure if they count.

Beats me. Anywho, GDoW isn't bm for 3 reasons:

1. The production is too clean. This doesn't mean too good, just too clean; it lacks any space or grandness. The guitars sound too thrashy. The first four songs are more blackened thrash, ala Blasphemer's Aura Noir.

2. The riffs are too spikey. There's no atmosphere in the riffs, because there's too much spikes in the way the guitars are done. Black metal usually requires a steady stream of sound, not the widely varying sound found on GDoW.

3. The songs are too short. Black metal is ALL about atmosphere, and you can't achieve atmosphere with songs like A Time To Die or View From Nihil, where the main flourishes take up less than 3 minutes.

Not to say it's a bad album (I love it) but when you compare it to other bm releases, it isn't bm, it's more bm/thrash with some electronic moments.

I hate it when people who don't know enough about a genre comment on how it's all the same, the same over-used riffs, the same vocals etc, because that is a pile of shit. I could say the exact same for black metal, but I don't, because I don't know enough about the genre, and it's not the music I listen to.

Then YOU tell me: What IS goregrind? Is my assessment of it true? Is it all blasting drums, blasting guitars, and "ruh ruh ruh" vocals?

Sure, your assesment is kind of true. Well...not really. Yes there's blasts. Not all the time though. And the guitars are in no way random. And yeah, they do "ruh ruh ruh" vocals as you put it, but that's the vocal style I enjoy, so it hardly matters to me. It's more pleasing to my ears than say for instance...the forced Immortal croak. My god, seriously, if there is a vocal styling in metal that is laughable today, it would be that.

I find Goratory's vocals more distracting than Abbath's but I don't like the Frog that much either. I prefer Attila Csihar or Jon Nodtveight or Garm. Note I said BLASTING guitars, not random guitars.

Look, I don't want to argue about this, because neither of us is going to see reason.

I don't either. I was just clarifying. I've always wondered if people saw more than blasting drums, blasting guitars, and swirlie vocals. I got my question answered, so I'm gone.

I can see how Goratory's vocal styles might be irritating and even comedic...it is pretty unconventional, and they certainly aren't indicative of the entire brutal DM genre.

That said, I <3 them.

Also, I don't quite understand what you mean by blasting guitars...I just assumed you meant random because you've accused goregrind guitars of being random before.

At 5/13/06 11:12 PM, batman64 wrote: So enough of the bashing and shit, let's just do what we are supposed to here and talk about one of the greatest creations of Man-Heavy fuckin Metal!!!!

I really like you now. That post was truth incarnate.

So, Dragonforce is playing select shows on Sounds of the Underground. The exact dates they play have yet to be released, but I've read that they mentioned at a show they'd be playing one of the dates in California. If they announce that they're playing the Vancouver show, I honestly don't know what I'd do I'd be so fucking happy.

At 5/13/06 11:12 PM, batman64 wrote: So enough of the bashing and shit, let's just do what we are supposed to here and talk about one of the greatest creations of Man-Heavy fuckin Metal!!!!

Ok. Buy Manowar's Warriors of the World. The production is really fucking heavy considering Manowar, and the music is so much darker than most other Manowar.

Theres this one band called Ramstein i've started listening to recently. When i first heard them i thought eh, there music was good but the german vocals weirded me out but after i saw one of their music vids i really started enjoying them, i cant say u'd like em but you should try them.

At 5/13/06 11:12 PM, batman64 wrote: So enough of the bashing and shit, let's just do what we are supposed to here and talk about one of the greatest creations of Man-Heavy fuckin Metal!!!!

Its a shame that Ghoul and Jarry didn't read this post, it only speaks the truth.

At 5/14/06 06:24 AM, -Nev- wrote: Its a shame that Ghoul and Jarry didn't read this post, it only speaks the truth.

Fuck you, I did read it, as I'm sure ghoul did too. And we weren't arguing, we were having a discussion.

At 5/14/06 06:37 AM, CptnJarrrrrydn wrote: Fuck you, I did read it, as I'm sure ghoul did too. And we weren't arguing, we were having a discussion.

I'm sorry darling :(.

Hmm, Despised Icon..I heard from them, but never got to hear any songs by them.

A band that mixes grind with crushingly heavy death metal and some melodic death and metalcore influences well is All Shall Perish. You should try their only album so far "Hate.Malice.Revenge"

At 5/14/06 12:33 AM, CptnJarrrrrydn wrote: I can see how Goratory's vocal styles might be irritating and even comedic...it is pretty unconventional, and they certainly aren't indicative of the entire brutal DM genre.

That said, I <3 them.

yo momma's a lazy eyed chow bearing slut but I fucked her anyway

At 5/14/06 07:42 AM, Goatchrist wrote:

A band that mixes grind with crushingly heavy death metal and some melodic death and metalcore influences well is All Shall Perish. You should try their only album so far "Hate.Malice.Revenge"

I love All Shall Perish, and am planning on buying Hate.Malice.Revenge.

Cannibal Corpse
Lamb of God
Cryptopsy
Children of Bodom (when Im high)
A little Opeth
Sepultura
A little Napalm Death

At 5/14/06 12:03 PM, CowsCanBark wrote: I love All Shall Perish, and am planning on buying Hate.Malice.Revenge.

my band Coffinfeeder is covering 3 of their songs ;)

At 5/14/06 04:16 AM, floj wrote: Theres this one band called Ramstein i've started listening to recently. When i first heard them i thought eh, there music was good but the german vocals weirded me out but after i saw one of their music vids i really started enjoying them, i cant say u'd like em but you should try them.

Dude, trust me, we HAVE tried them. Let me remind you this is the METAL hell, not the ROCK hell. Everybody knows who rammstein is. Come back when you have some metal to talk about. MTV is NOT the place to go for new and exciting music, dude.

Does anybody here own Kiuas' newest album? Is it worth of buyin'? Or Stam1na's "Uudet Kymmenen Käskyä"?