At 4/30/06 05:53 PM, -Nev- wrote:

At 4/30/06 05:32 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: That's why I love black metal -- it's so transcandental and effective.

I don't get anything from BM either - well those Behemoth songs you reccomended did nothing.

Which ones were they?

Maybe its some kind of transistion you go through in life at some point.

It is. I used to be like Jarry, but eventually I got bored by music that was just blasting, and appreciated music more for the psychological aspect of it.

At 4/30/06 06:03 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: Which ones were they?

Transylvanian Forest and Lasy Pomorza

At 4/30/06 06:12 PM, -Nev- wrote:

At 4/30/06 06:03 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: Which ones were they?

Transylvanian Forest and Lasy Pomorza

Love those songs. They epitomise old Behemoth.

At 4/30/06 06:35 PM, H-tv wrote: k y

What is the point of this post? I think you'd better quit spamming.

If "Hell Dwells in Ice" by Behemoth doesn't possess some kind of mood, something must be wrong with people :P

At 4/30/06 07:34 PM, Goatchrist wrote: If "Hell Dwells in Ice" by Behemoth doesn't possess some kind of mood, something must be wrong with people :P

Exactly. I love that song. It's so pagan.

At 4/30/06 07:41 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: Exactly. I love that song. It's so pagan.

Indeed. Still, overall, I enjoy newer Behemoth more. I seem to be one of the few people who likes "Grom" though. Most people I know, who like their BM era, don't enjoy Grom, and those who like their DM era don't like it either.

At 4/30/06 07:48 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 4/30/06 07:41 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: Exactly. I love that song. It's so pagan.

Indeed. Still, overall, I enjoy newer Behemoth more. I seem to be one of the few people who likes "Grom" though. Most people I know, who like their BM era, don't enjoy Grom, and those who like their DM era don't like it either.

I like From the Pagan Vastlands... through Grom, and after that I view it as being unoriginal death metal.

At 4/30/06 08:08 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: I like From the Pagan Vastlands... through Grom, and after that I view it as being unoriginal death metal.

Why unoriginal? Never quite got that.

At 4/30/06 01:50 PM, duffeknol wrote:

At 4/30/06 12:02 PM, J1mp wrote: Download Ghost Reveries.

Its the best album ive heard from the past 5 years.

Jesus fuck off! That album was pure mallcore!

Not to mention whored out by ever bad agit prop mag in the U.K.

At 4/30/06 03:42 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: Does music put you in a mood? Well, atmosphere is the mood the music puts you in. It's the aura the music is surrounded with. For instance, Immortal has an icy atmosphere, since their music conjures up images of ice. Old behemoth has a cold, pagan atmosphere, because their music conjures up images of old pagan warriors from Poland. Slayer has a hellish atmosphere, because their music conjures up images of hellfire and slaughter. Likewise, Burzum has a very pagan, transcandental atmosphere because his music (at least for me) puts the listener into a meditative state of being. Atmosphere is the psychological effect the music has on the listener. Some music listeners don't like atmosphere, but X_Imperium_X and I do.

Yeah, I just don't get that from music. Even when I did listen to BM. But it doesn't bother me, because I don't need to be in a mood to enjoy music. I think maybe the closest thing I've experience to atmosphere when it comes to music, is when my girlfriend broke up with me a few years ago (yes </slit>), I walked home, in the rain, at midnight, and I popped on some Dillinger Escape Plan (the Mike Patton collaboration). Now I can't listen to 'when good dogs do bad things' without feeling abit weird.

But I digress. If some people can find atmosphere in BM, then some people can find it in DM. I guess it's dependant upon the person, and what they want out of their music.

Jarrydn, I got your cat pregnant.

Ghoul, I orgasmed on your Mayhem T-Shirt. I tried to get the stain out but I couldn't.

Now that I've got those confessions out of the way...

I just bought a Burzum T-Shirt and Gorgoroth T-Shirt. Pwn!

Sincerely, CCB.

At 4/30/06 08:17 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 4/30/06 08:08 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: I like From the Pagan Vastlands... through Grom, and after that I view it as being unoriginal death metal.

Why unoriginal? Never quite got that.

Cuz I view all new school dm as unoriginal.

And Cows, I'm above buying band tees now. Now I'm making my OWN band tees. HEHE

At 4/30/06 09:20 PM, jarrydn wrote:

At 4/30/06 03:42 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: Does music put you in a mood? Well, atmosphere is the mood the music puts you in. It's the aura the music is surrounded with. For instance, Immortal has an icy atmosphere, since their music conjures up images of ice. Old behemoth has a cold, pagan atmosphere, because their music conjures up images of old pagan warriors from Poland. Slayer has a hellish atmosphere, because their music conjures up images of hellfire and slaughter. Likewise, Burzum has a very pagan, transcandental atmosphere because his music (at least for me) puts the listener into a meditative state of being. Atmosphere is the psychological effect the music has on the listener. Some music listeners don't like atmosphere, but X_Imperium_X and I do.

Yeah, I just don't get that from music. Even when I did listen to BM. But it doesn't bother me, because I don't need to be in a mood to enjoy music. I think maybe the closest thing I've experience to atmosphere when it comes to music, is when my girlfriend broke up with me a few years ago (yes </slit>), I walked home, in the rain, at midnight, and I popped on some Dillinger Escape Plan (the Mike Patton collaboration). Now I can't listen to 'when good dogs do bad things' without feeling abit weird.

Hmm.... I can see that. Psychological association. Like how I associate Malmsteen's "Dreamin'" with cheating cuz that's what I was listening to when I cheated on my gf when I was 17.

But I digress. If some people can find atmosphere in BM, then some people can find it in DM. I guess it's dependant upon the person, and what they want out of their music.

I doubt it. Dm seems to be more about stuff in the flesh, and less of a spiritual experience. Most of bm's appeal comes from songwriting.

And hence is my other complaint about dm: Songwriting. Most dm songwriting is in the shitter. I like music to be well written, and most dm is poorly written, if at all. Here's a concrete response to your thesis above: Atmosphere comes from fucking excellent and powerful songwriting. Most dm bands lack songwriting, as it derives appeal from hammering and cacophonous brutality. Not to say all BM bands have excellent songwriting; most don't. But the ones that do are the ones that achieve the atmosphere.

At 4/30/06 01:50 PM, duffeknol wrote:

At 4/30/06 12:02 PM, J1mp wrote: Download Ghost Reveries.

Its the best album ive heard from the past 5 years.

Jesus fuck off! That album was pure mallcore!

Are you basing that on anything besides the fact they're on the lael Roadrunner?

At 5/1/06 12:59 AM, Overlord_Blammer wrote:

Are you basing that on anything besides the fact they're on the lael Roadrunner?

No, he's just Duffecknol

At 5/1/06 12:13 AM, The_Ghoul wrote: And hence is my other complaint about dm: Songwriting. Most dm songwriting is in the shitter. I like music to be well written, and most dm is poorly written, if at all. Here's a concrete response to your thesis above: Atmosphere comes from fucking excellent and powerful songwriting. Most dm bands lack songwriting, as it derives appeal from hammering and cacophonous brutality. Not to say all BM bands have excellent songwriting; most don't. But the ones that do are the ones that achieve the atmosphere.

Well, if you're looking for DM bands with great, interesting songwriting you should check "All Shall Perish" and their album "Hate.Malice.Revenge". The album has a fuckload of interesting and rather technical riffs, nice structures and heaviness combined. My band Coffinfeeder is covering 3 songs by them.

At 5/1/06 01:27 AM, The_Ghoul wrote:

At 5/1/06 12:59 AM, Overlord_Blammer wrote:

Are you basing that on anything besides the fact they're on the lael Roadrunner?

No, he's just Duffecknol

next to those two important facts, it's also the worst thing Opeth ever made. No more catchy melodies, no more interesting interludes, no nothing. Fuck man, if it had rap it would be Limp Bizkit. Opeth killed itself.

At 5/1/06 06:54 AM, duffeknol wrote: Opeth killed itself.

An adequate description ;)

I'm listening to Necromantia's "Crossing the Fiery Path" for the first time right now, it's pretty good black metal. They actually don't have guitars, they have a 4 string bass and a 8 string(which is played like a guitar) bass, accompanied by little keyboard use. Very interesting.

Does anyone listen to the band Acid Bath? I think they're Doom Metal, or Stoner Metal.

At 5/1/06 10:58 AM, Kronik_The_Hedgehog wrote: Does anyone listen to the band Acid Bath? I think they're Doom Metal, or Stoner Metal.

yeah I know em, my girlfriend adores em, they're her #1 favourite band
I can't fucking stand em, too random

lolburger

I ordered Whoracle to complete my In Flames collection. I really just wanted it for continuity's sake, and I don't have very high hopes for it, but the price was right, so we'll see...

At 5/1/06 05:25 PM, X_Imperium_X wrote: I ordered Whoracle to complete my In Flames collection. I really just wanted it for continuity's sake, and I don't have very high hopes for it, but the price was right, so we'll see...

Whoracle is actually my favourite In Flames album. Why the low expectations?

METAL SUCKS>>Click on my pic to make money! I have!

At 5/1/06 05:44 PM, OMF_Dog wrote: METAL SUCKS>>Click on my pic to make money! I have!

I agree

At 5/1/06 05:31 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 5/1/06 05:25 PM, X_Imperium_X wrote: I ordered Whoracle to complete my In Flames collection. I really just wanted it for continuity's sake, and I don't have very high hopes for it, but the price was right, so we'll see...

Whoracle is actually my favourite In Flames album. Why the low expectations?

Really? I heard it was balls from a couple of friends... Between myself and one of my better friends (who also loves metal) we have every major In Flames release besides Lunar Strain/Subterranian and the two turds between Clayman and Come Clarity. I got it to fill in the gap between Jester Race and Colony, but when I asked around a few kids said it sucked, I lowered my hopes for a decent cd, but it seems I'll have something to look forward to now...

BTW, I am still listening to "Under Thy Mighty Wings," which is really rare. Usually one song doesnt get stuck in my rotation (whole cds do, though), but I really like it, its grown on me quite a bit...

Atmosphere is important to me in music. If I dont feel anything from a cd, or if it has no integrity, I don't like it. Without atmosphere, music can't be more than simple instruments, and cant nearly be as fulfilling or enriching as it is when you submerge yourself in atmosphere.

Imperium, you can look forward to Whoracle. It is a good CD.

Well guys, I finished my album and here it is for you, "Monumentum":

Shores of Sheol - Monumentum

As I asked for my last EP, please share your opinion on metal-archives, write a review, I'd love to get some ;)

Hope you like it. 9 Songs, 41 minutes.

At 5/1/06 06:52 PM, Goatchrist wrote: Well guys, I finished my album and here it is for you, "Monumentum":

Shores of Sheol - Monumentum

As I asked for my last EP, please share your opinion on metal-archives, write a review, I'd love to get some ;)

Hope you like it. 9 Songs, 41 minutes.

Downloading, I'm curious, I'll let you know :)

oh, and I decided to finally record something myself.
of course it's under 1 minute, but whatever, tell me what you think anyway :P

'badass'

forgive the quality :(

At 5/1/06 03:53 AM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 5/1/06 12:13 AM, The_Ghoul wrote: And hence is my other complaint about dm: Songwriting. Most dm songwriting is in the shitter. I like music to be well written, and most dm is poorly written, if at all. Here's a concrete response to your thesis above: Atmosphere comes from fucking excellent and powerful songwriting. Most dm bands lack songwriting, as it derives appeal from hammering and cacophonous brutality. Not to say all BM bands have excellent songwriting; most don't. But the ones that do are the ones that achieve the atmosphere.

Well, if you're looking for DM bands with great, interesting songwriting you should check "All Shall Perish" and their album "Hate.Malice.Revenge". The album has a fuckload of interesting and rather technical riffs, nice structures and heaviness combined. My band Coffinfeeder is covering 3 songs by them.

I shall check out All Shall Perish. Oh, and once I finish converting and exporting the compilation "Prophecies of the End", I'll host it for free. It's a compilation of odds n' ends, or basically stuff I did solo that doesn't belong on any KY album, plus different versions of songs and covers. You can check it out on MA. It has 3 covers (Ancient Skin (MayheM), Pa Slagmark Langt Mod Nordt (Gorgoroth) and Not Saved (Ulver)), two new songs (Wonder of Man and Winter of Vengeance), plus a different version of Anger and Winter of Vengeance. It's pretty good stuff, and if you don't like my songwriting, you can at least look forward to the covers. You've already heard one (Ancient Skin), and the other 2 are pretty good. The Not Saved cover is half metalized/half electronic, as opposed to the original, which is all electronic.