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Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-10 12:47:12


Anyone have suggestions for some good Metal songs? I've been addicted to Weigh beneath my sin by Five Finger Death Punch so my ears wanted to hear something else.


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Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-10 17:56:25


At 9/10/15 06:50 AM, Viper wrote:
At 9/10/15 01:17 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Could you be a little more precise?
I'm referring to that big brown thing at the top in the middle.

A crowd-surfing guy in a dog suit.

At 9/10/15 12:47 PM, TheRecklessKnight wrote: Anyone have suggestions for some good Metal songs? I've been addicted to Weigh beneath my sin by Five Finger Death Punch so my ears wanted to hear something else.

FFDP are a groove/metalcore, and that's not really a genre I enjoy.

But you might enjoy bands like Gojira. Their music uses elements of groove metal but in a more death metal setting.
Mastodon could also potentially be of interest for you.
There is some good death metal you could also like, stuff like Benighted, Blood Red Throne or Decapitated.

Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-10 23:55:04


Hello Brethren. I have returned! Again... For what? The fifth time? lol Anyways so whats new in the metal world? Ive been pretty obessed with Devin Townsend lol just cant get enough.


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Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-11 02:27:57


At 9/10/15 11:55 PM, Blackdoom13 wrote: Hello Brethren. I have returned! Again... For what? The fifth time?
lol Anyways so whats new in the metal world?

Sean Reinert and Paul Masvidal fighting on the internet. From what I can tell, Reinert decided to leave Cynic in the middle of a tour without telling them and posted on their FB that the band split up (as opposed to him quitting, but he says the band is two people so I guess Malone doesn't count as a member?).


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Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-11 09:25:48


At 9/11/15 02:27 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: Sean Reinert and Paul Masvidal fighting on the internet. From what I can tell, Reinert decided to leave Cynic in the middle of a tour without telling them and posted on their FB that the band split up (as opposed to him quitting, but he says the band is two people so I guess Malone doesn't count as a member?).

This is very sad, and I think Sean Reinert's behavior in this is pretty childish. Quitting in the middle of a tour... and using yet again that "Malone doesn't count" crap when it serves his interests better... not cool.

And it's very sad that Cynic might just end now...

Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-11 15:53:46


At 9/11/15 02:27 AM, Sense-Offender wrote:
At 9/10/15 11:55 PM, Blackdoom13 wrote: Hello Brethren. I have returned! Again... For what? The fifth time?
lol Anyways so whats new in the metal world?
Sean Reinert and Paul Masvidal fighting on the internet. From what I can tell, Reinert decided to leave Cynic in the middle of a tour without telling them and posted on their FB that the band split up (as opposed to him quitting, but he says the band is two people so I guess Malone doesn't count as a member?).

Wow thats just dumb. Talk about a hissy fit lol I've had some bad members do that shit on me back in my old band.
Childish bullshit.


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Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-12 07:36:11


At 9/10/15 05:56 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: But you might enjoy bands like Gojira. Their music uses elements of groove metal but in a more death metal setting.
Mastodon could also potentially be of interest for you.
There is some good death metal you could also like, stuff like Benighted, Blood Red Throne or Decapitated.

Listened to two songs of Gojira and damn they're good. Thanks for the suggestion


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Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-14 02:24:48


At 9/12/15 07:36 AM, TheRecklessKnight wrote:
At 9/10/15 05:56 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: But you might enjoy bands like Gojira. Their music uses elements of groove metal but in a more death metal setting.
Mastodon could also potentially be of interest for you.
There is some good death metal you could also like, stuff like Benighted, Blood Red Throne or Decapitated.
Listened to two songs of Gojira and damn they're good. Thanks for the suggestion

They hit hard, and they have very sexy riffs. It serves their music well :) Very happy that you like it!

Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-14 16:19:24


Anybody listened to the new Ghost and Iron Maiden records? Are they any good?

Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-14 18:21:15


At 9/14/15 04:19 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anybody listened to the new Ghost and Iron Maiden records? Are they any good?

Ghost? Yes.
Iron Maiden? No.

I have the new Ghost album. It's got some good stuff on it. But I like Infestissumam more. Probably because I've listened to it A LOT more.


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Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-15 06:25:39


At 9/14/15 04:19 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anybody listened to the new Ghost and Iron Maiden records? Are they any good?

Im sad to say Ive honestly never have got into Ghost. I donno I just dont know what to think about them lol Their music is really out there and interesting but I got confused when the vocals come in lol I was expecting Black Metal, Im sure thats been said before but yeah... Totally threw me off lol

As far as Iron Maiden I was completely unaware they were still making albums lol


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Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-15 21:33:20


At 9/15/15 06:25 AM, Blackdoom13 wrote:
At 9/14/15 04:19 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anybody listened to the new Ghost and Iron Maiden records? Are they any good?
Im sad to say Ive honestly never have got into Ghost. I donno I just dont know what to think about them lol Their music is really out there and interesting but I got confused when the vocals come in lol I was expecting Black Metal, Im sure thats been said before but yeah... Totally threw me off lol

I remember first learning about this band through our user smeagol1, so I was also expecting a black metal band since he seemed to enjoy bands like Marduk, 1349 and the likes.

But to be completely honest, I think that these vocals are fitting for the music style Ghost makes. Black metal vocals would feel very weird in the context of their music, especially considering the 60's rock elements they combine with more recent heavy metal elements.

As far as Iron Maiden I was completely unaware they were still making albums lol

I learned it through a review of Anthony Fantano on YouTube, and according to him they aren't really pulling off the longer tracks... and to be honest... I kind of expect that from Iron Maiden at this point. Apart from Rime Of The Ancient Mariner, they never really managed to come out strong when it comes to 10+ minutes. There are three of these tracks on the record, helping it break the 90 minutes mark. And again, to be completely honest, this is not something I like to see Maiden do. Whenever they try to go massive, epic and progressive... they fail.

Their best albums artistically speaking, and even in terms of commercial success, are around 40 minutes of length, and usually constituted of 3 to 7 minutes tracks that are rather straight-forward with the occasional more complexly woven 7 to 9 minutes tracks, but that still do not fall under the "lame pseudo-epics with a ton of half-assed orchestrations" category that they seem to be going for on their latest album.

Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-20 01:28:07


At 9/15/15 09:33 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
I remember first learning about this band through our user smeagol1, so I was also expecting a black metal band since he seemed to enjoy bands like Marduk, 1349 and the likes.

Yeah hes who I first heard about them from too

But to be completely honest, I think that these vocals are fitting for the music style Ghost makes. Black metal vocals would feel very weird in the context of their music, especially considering the 60's rock elements they combine with more recent heavy metal elements.

It certainly fits to the music I just havent really give it a chance I guess lol

Iron Maiden

I donno I just never really got into them very much.


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Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-22 20:20:30


Drummer from Bolt Thrower died.

At 9/22/15 04:30 PM, KillerTerror wrote: I'll be joining this club since I'm into Metal.

Does anyone here like Disturbed? Big fan of their music.

As I mentioned to others, maybe this thread is more up your alley.


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Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-22 23:55:15


Does nobody read the first page anymore? lol


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Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-25 14:48:05


At 9/22/15 08:21 PM, KillerTerror wrote:
At 9/22/15 08:20 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: As I mentioned to others, maybe this thread is more up your alley.
Looks like that thread is dead.

For a good reason. If you want to listen to pop metal (a.k.a pop bands trying to use "metal" influences to be cool) certainly there's not much more to talk about.

In other news, my band and I are opening up for Vital Remains on October 15th. Gonna be a kickass show.

Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-27 15:35:28 (edited 2015-09-27 15:37:42)


This looks like my place. :)

Anyone here into The Fall of Troy?
Went to one of their concerts not too long ago.

Smallest concert I've ever been to. Also the best concert I've ever been to. :D

And mothballs that sounds awesome, maybe send me a link to your music, always love checking people's music. :)

Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-27 17:19:48


At 9/27/15 03:35 PM, 9X74 wrote: This looks like my place. :)

Anyone here into The Fall of Troy?

I DONT listen to them. But a band I listen to played a show with em.
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Response to Metal Hell 2015-09-29 13:08:25


At 9/22/15 08:21 PM, KillerTerror wrote:
At 9/22/15 08:20 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: As I mentioned to others, maybe this thread is more up your alley.
Looks like that thread is dead.

Yeah... It kind of is. But we don't really discuss nu-metal in here either.

At 9/27/15 03:35 PM, 9X74 wrote: This looks like my place. :)

Anyone here into The Fall of Troy?
Went to one of their concerts not too long ago.

They are most of a post-hardcore band then a metal band, really. And it's funny that there never was a hardcore thread on NG... I wonder why that is...

Response to Metal Hell 2015-10-03 17:46:54 (edited 2015-10-03 17:51:47)


You guys heard the new deafheaven album.
It's like kinda good lol,
So much better than that boring ass trendhopping overmarketed fucking generic skramz envy wannabe shit mixed with generic modern bm overcompressed Sunbather crap.
Still wish all the fucking retarded pretentious fanbase would fuck off though but that's the case with everything.
Some bits are eh and the vocals are weak (sounds like 1/4 shouted 3/4 whispered like on Varg's post-prison BM albums.)
If Kerry McCoy gets rid of his stupid fucking haircut I will fucking kiss him.

Also can the vast majority of "post-black metal" bands stop having the same exact fucking sound and john handcock logo and people besides losers who cry themselves to sleep to american football and masturbate to rule34 of Scott Pilgrim will like it.

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They play a brand of music that evokes both darkness and light at the same time. It is, in a way, ambitious and daring.

Response to Metal Hell 2015-10-05 22:05:00


At 10/3/15 05:46 PM, MONGOL9999999 wrote: You guys heard the new deafheaven album.
It's like kinda good lol,

I have yet to hear it. I've heard only the single they released a while back, and I though it was pretty good. I'll have to listen to the whole thing soon.

So much better than that boring ass trendhopping overmarketed fucking generic skramz envy wannabe shit mixed with generic modern bm overcompressed Sunbather crap.

If you hated it so much, why did you listen to the newest one? Before Sunbather there really were not many black metal albums with such uplifting riffs. If post-rock has been mixed with 3rd wave black metal in the past, I don't think it was ever done with such focus on the general ambiance to focus it on such play between contrasts. I also love the slow progression on Sunbather, and the vocals were stunning.

Still wish all the fucking retarded pretentious fanbase would fuck off though but that's the case with everything.

Saw them live on the first day of the Heavy Montreal 2015, and I still see no evidence of the existence of this "fucking retarded pretentious fanbase" that so many trve and kvlt bm fans describe all the time. There are fans of Deafheaven who aren't metalheads themselves and who perceive them as some kind of geniuses, and there are hipsters in their ranks... but there are hipsters in the fanbase of Mastodon, Agalloch, Gojira, Kylesa and Neurosis as well...

Also can the vast majority of "post-black metal" bands stop having the same exact fucking sound and john handcock logo and people besides losers who cry themselves to sleep to american football and masturbate to rule34 of Scott Pilgrim will like it.

It's funny that you talk so much shit about "pretentiousness" and that you still feel that this conclusion to your post is totally fine and doesn't make you hypocritical in anyway.

Response to Metal Hell 2015-10-06 03:17:29


So I can't discuss Nu-Metal in here? I'm pretty sure the guy who made this club said to discuss ALL types of Metal.

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Response to Metal Hell 2015-10-07 14:42:00


I now have all Death's full-length albums on my computer, and three of them in physical copies (Human, Leprosy and The Sound Of Perseverance). It's kind of sad that it took me so long to complete my collection, especially considering just how much of a fan I am of their music. Apart from some tracks from Individual Thought Patterns, The Sound Of Perseverance and a few other tracks here and there across their entire discography, I think that pretty much everything they did was pure gold.

If I had to rank their albums, I think it would look something like this:

Human
Scream Bloody Gore
Symbolic
Leprosy
Spirutal Healing
The Sound of Perseverance
Individual Thought Patterns

And while were at it, did any of you guys pay attention to the recent events with Cynic?

"On September 10, 2015, Reinert announced that Cynic broke up once again, due to artistic and personal differences. Later that day, however, Masvidal denied these claims, stating that Cynic will continue "one way or another". A week later, Cynic announced a new incarnation (featuring Paul Masvidal, Sean Malone and Matt Lynch), which made its live debut at the Euroblast festival on October 3, 2015 in Cologne, Germany. This implies that Cynic is still together."

I saw this fight on Facebook between Reinert and Masvidal... it was pretty sad...

At 10/6/15 03:17 AM, Jimmyyx wrote: So I can't discuss Nu-Metal in here? I'm pretty sure the guy who made this club said to discuss ALL types of Metal.

Nu-metal is often considered by metalheads as not a real metal subgenre. At some point between the creation of this club and now, the leaders of the club have decided to use the same basic rules as the Metal Archives when it comes to deciding if a band or genre is metal or not.

I have to say that I do not personally feel the need to actively exclude all forms of discussion around nu-metal, deathcore, metalcore and the likes, but we just want to make the newcomers understand that this is not what most of the guys in here listen to and/or like to discuss. But I mean, I'm not stopping you from talking about these bands in anyway.

At 10/6/15 07:51 AM, Viper wrote: So...Sigurd Wongraven (front man for Satyricon) has been diagnosed with a brain tumor.

Not cool... I've only really listened to their album Dark Medieval Times, but it's always sad to see crap like this happening to fellow metalheads.

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At 10/7/15 02:42 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: If I had to rank their albums, I think it would look something like this:

Human
Scream Bloody Gore
Symbolic
Leprosy
Spirutal Healing
The Sound of Perseverance
Individual Thought Patterns

I'd this best to worst? Or worst to best?

Best to worst I'd go
Human
Spiritual Healing
Sound of Perseverance
Symbolic
Leprosy
Individual Thought Patterns
Scream Bloody Gore

Scream Bloody Gore isn't bad by any means. I just don't like it as much as the rest. And Individual Thought Patterns I just haven't heard as much as the others.


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Response to Metal Hell 2015-10-07 15:16:48


At 10/6/15 03:17 AM, Jimmyyx wrote: So I can't discuss Nu-Metal in here? I'm pretty sure the guy who made this club said to discuss ALL types of Metal.

Discuss whatever type of metal you want to discuss. I don't want to argue about it considering how few people still post here anymore.

At 10/6/15 07:51 AM, Viper wrote: So...Sigurd Wongraven (front man for Satyricon) has been diagnosed with a brain tumor.

He says he can live with it if it doesn't grow...but jeesh, that's scary.

At 10/7/15 02:42 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I now have all Death's full-length albums on my computer,

Awesome - I just had a Death day and went through the entire discography myself again. The solos on some of these songs are just so fucking beautiful. One of my favorite bands of all time.

Today it's Opeth. I'm on Deliverance now.

I sort of miss the old death metal Opeth, but the new prog rock still is still pretty good.

Response to Metal Hell 2015-10-07 15:21:30


At 10/7/15 03:16 PM, Viper wrote:
At 10/7/15 02:42 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
Scream Bloody Gore isn't bad by any means. I just don't like it as much as the rest. And Individual Thought Patterns I just haven't heard as much as the others.

Oh yeah - my two favorite albums are The Sound of Perseverance and Symbolic. The rest are good too, I just haven't heard them enough to really group them all in a hierarchy.

In fact, these two albums are probably two of my most favorite albums of all time.

Response to Metal Hell 2015-10-07 17:29:42


At 10/7/15 03:16 PM, Viper wrote:
At 10/7/15 02:42 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: If I had to rank their albums, I think it would look something like this:

Human
Scream Bloody Gore
Symbolic
Leprosy
Spirutal Healing
The Sound of Perseverance
Individual Thought Patterns
I'd this best to worst? Or worst to best?

That was best to worst.

Best to worst I'd go
Human
Spiritual Healing
Sound of Perseverance
Symbolic
Leprosy
Individual Thought Patterns
Scream Bloody Gore

Scream Bloody Gore isn't bad by any means. I just don't like it as much as the rest. And Individual Thought Patterns I just haven't heard as much as the others.

Scream Bloody Gore was more straight-forward and was rawer then later Death's material. I think it's an amazing album, even if I really enjoy their more complex and a little more "sophisticated" approach that would become the norm for their following albums. I do believe that Human and Leprosy managed to retain enough of the rawness that makes death metal so interesting to me, while being more progressive and elaborate. I personally feel that TSOP is a little too much on the progressive and technical side of death metal for it's own good. There are definitely great tracks on this record but I feel that some other tracks lack in the song-writing department.

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At 10/7/15 03:16 PM, BrenTheMan wrote: Discuss whatever type of metal you want to discuss. I don't want to argue about it considering how few people still post here anymore.

I agree.

Awesome - I just had a Death day and went through the entire discography myself again. The solos on some of these songs are just so fucking beautiful. One of my favorite bands of all time.

They are definitely one of my favorite bands two. When I listen to my music on shuffle mode, I hardly ever skip any of their tracks when it comes on, apart maybe for tracks from ITP and TSOP. That is only true for a few other bands I like, noticeably Blood Red Throne and Leeches Of Lore.

And since I've been on a death metal roll lately, I've been listening to a lot of Death, Cannibal Corpse, Blood Red Throne, Decapitated, Funebrarum, Origin and more.

Today it's Opeth. I'm on Deliverance now.

I sort of miss the old death metal Opeth, but the new prog rock still is still pretty good.

I've never really gotten into Opeth, but I've heard that they grew "softer" over the years. While it can often just be a sign of a band's will to explore and be creative, it often affects the uniqueness and quality of the material that some band produces.

At 10/7/15 03:21 PM, BrenTheMan wrote: Oh yeah - my two favorite albums are The Sound of Perseverance and Symbolic. The rest are good too, I just haven't heard them enough to really group them all in a hierarchy.

While I love Symbolic, one can feel that they were in some kind of transition with this record. They were moving toward a more technical and progressive sound, that slowly left the old-school death metal sound and song-writing of the previous albums. Not to say that Human or Leprosy were not progressive, but they were progressive in a more subtle way that resembled the approach of bands like Cynic with their album Focus (of course Paul Masvidal and Sein Reinert had something to do about it) or Atheist's album Unquestionable Presence. With Symbolic, Death was really moving toward a TSOP sound, which again isn't bad, but I do not like it quite as much.

It is still very sad that Chuck passed away so young. There was definitely still a creative spark in his later work that could have contributed some great albums to follow-up TSOP, and it would have also been quite informative as to what Chuck Schuldiner had in mind as to where he wanted to drive his project next. Now we are just left here wondering if the sound found of TSOP was going to be the sound of Death's following releases or if it really was just an attempt at something that, I personally perceive as radically different from the rest of the discography (apart from Symbolic).

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