At 12/2/14 08:04 PM, Murray wrote: Someone rang?

Yeah, we were wondering what you were up to.

At 12/3/14 04:12 PM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote: I also grabbed Scorn Defeat just on a whim because I remember you guys going on about Sigh and that was pretty good too, so I picked up Hangmans Hymn and that album is also perfect start to finish. It's crazy to think that back in the day these guys in Japan were making some seriously cool and unique black metal and were signed to Euronymous' label. I wonder sometimes what the norwegian dudes must have thought of them, haha.

That's something that popped in my mind at some point two. Scorn Defeat is most likely one of my favorite black metal albums, and it is very unique. Even back then it was definitely avant-garde. But to me, Sigh never seemed to take themselves as seriously as the 2nd wave bands from Norway. And if they took themselves seriously it wasn't in that pure evil and hatred kind of vibe that the Scandinavian bros were going for. I would also really like to know what the guys from Mayhem, Darkthrone and the likes thought about them. I'd love to know what Varg thinks also. He's such a dick, I'm pretty sure his comments would be awesome :P

I also looked into Peste Noire again because Bruce was all about them back in the day and they're amazing as well, I remember the first time I heard them I immediately shut it off because of how harsh it was but La Sanie is like a masterpiece to me now. Through Peste Noire I listened to Aorlhac and they're great too, you should check out this link if you like Peste Noire.

La sanie des siècles is an amazing black metal album, definitely true. If you get a chance to listen to Alcest's demo, Tristesse Hivernale, I highly recommend you give it a listen. It's a great black metal record. It was recorded in good old black metal lo-fi demo production, of course, but there are amazing riffs on the album. If you didn't know, Famine from Peste Noire was in the band back then, so it is kind of similar to early Peste Noire material. Very good stuff. Shitty bass production, but good stuff.

But yeah I'm back in the mood to check out some new stuff, looking to get some more Rotting Christ and Sigh cd's too so if you have any suggestions about the next ones to get that would be cool.

If you're going to dig deeper in Sigh's material, I recommend starting off with their pre-Mikannibal era. Not that what they did with her is bad, no, but her vocals are weak as fuck. So I'm obviously recommending Imaginary Soniscape, of course. But if you're looking for their more black metal oriented material, Scenes From Hell is definitely the way to go, especially since you told us that you already listened to Scorn Defeat and Hangman's Hymn, then SFH is definitely the more natural follow-up. All of their material is kickass though. So if you don't want to focus on their more black metal material, Imaginary Soniscape, like I previously said, is the first I'd recommend for sure.

At 12/3/14 06:26 PM, Bmwd wrote: Iced Earth, KoRn, Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Exodus, Rage against the machine, Hellyeah, Mudvayne, Skindred, Helloween.

Like Sense said, we are a club that focuses on metal music mostly, so proto-metal and hard rock bands such as Led Zeppelin and Rage Against The Machine aren't exactly the kind of bands we discuss. Well, of course we will discuss stuff like Led Zeppelin since they are an obvious step toward the original creation of metal music, but hard rock and what is today labelled as "nu-metal" like Mudvayne and Korn, is not music that we discuss in here. But Iced Earth, Metallica, Exodus, Helloween, these are all fitting :) Welcome to the Metal Hell!

At 12/4/14 05:57 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 12/2/14 08:04 PM, Murray wrote: Someone rang?

Yeah, we were wondering what you were up to.

I'm still around but am lurking for the most part. I felt over the last few months I hadn't been discovering as much new music as I should have but I have picked up a bit now. I've got several new releases to look forward to in the early new year so I better save some cash for some of those records.

I'm getting information that Necrophagist's new album is finally about to come out and that what I'm about to post is the cover art. It might (huge emphasis on "might") be legit this time. As of right now, I really want to wait and see more but at the same time, spur a little bit of discussion.

I remember talking to Muhammad in 2009 before one of their Summer Slaughter shows here and asked about the next album's current status. At the time, 5 years had passed since Epitaph was released. He told me that he was nearly done with it, that it was a concept album and the plan was to have it out by the end of the year. We now know how that all turned out. Now another 5 years has passed since we had that discussion. However the album turns out, I'll be satisfied knowing that I at least heard it.

I'm taking a little bit of a risk by posting this now. I came across it by accident on my Facebook feed and it has only been circulating for about 4 hours. It hasn't been reported by Blabbermouth or any other metal news outlet that I've seen. There is a very real chance that this is a hoax, but one way or the other, it's a well done piece of work.

At 12/4/14 03:15 AM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote:

At 12/3/14 05:31 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

That's tough, man. I might personally pick Theogonia, but I'm really not sure. I think Ghoul would have said Khronos and I could be wrong, but I think Gory would say Triarchy of Lost Lovers. I honestly don't remember Triarchy so I should relisten.

Yeah, I would have just worked up from their older releases to their newest ones but the only listing on amazon is 48 bucks for Triarchy. I'd be willing to pay that for something as rare and special as Devil Doll, but I'm not willing to shell that out for Rotting Christ as much as I like them.

heh. I can't remember the last time I paid money for a metal album. Metal for me has been by far the easiest genre of music to obtain for free thanks to a certain Russian based website.

I wonder why it's priced that way, maybe it was a limited release or something? I also remember something about Rotting Christ incorporating rapping or something on Aelo, some kind of nu-metal shit? Am I going crazy, or did that actually happen?

I don't recall such a thing.

As far as podcasts, I started from the beginning with Hollywood Babble On and Jay and Silent Bob Get Old about two years ago and have been keeping up since. I've also listened to most of the SModcast podcast.

Yeah I listened to a bit of smodcast, I think Kevin James is a chill dude.

lol I can't believe you called him Kevin James. That reminds me of a story he told about being recognized in public and they were like "I love King of Queens".

I would definitely have a beer with him for sure, but the podcast didn't hook me. It's the same with Opie and Anthony, I love those guys in bits but I can't be bothered to make it through the droning to get to the good stuff.

The SModcast podcast with Smith and Mosier is mostly just two guys talking in a kitchen with a few episodes being exceptions. Hollywood Babble on and Jay and Silent Bob Get Old are both done in front of a big live audience and is a little more structured, especially Babble with a bunch of segments with their own jingles. They're more digestible.

At 12/3/14 11:24 PM, GoryBlizzard wrote: There really is no best Rotting Christ album as far as I'm concerned. Whenever the subject comes up, I prefer to talk about my favorite songs which goes from some of their oldest to some of their newest. A couple of my most favorite songs of theirs do happen to be on Triarchy of the Lost Lovers and those are Archon and King of a Stellar War. Both have accrued many plays over many years. Other good ones: In Domine Sathana, If It Ends Tomorrow, The Call of the Aethyrs, Athanati Este, Full Colour Is the Night, Among Two Storms...there are more but these are just the ones I tend to listen to first out of habit. Athanati Este, probably the most. It sucks that I couldn't make it to see them again when they swung by here in September but I can count on them coming back in about another year.

lol Is there something that notifies you when someome says "Gory"? I dunno how you keep doing that. Yeah, I think I might agree. I have like a handful of favorite songs across Khronos, Theogonia and Aealo such as Nemecic, He the Aethyr, if It Ends Tomorrow, Aealo and Demonon Vrosis plus Among Two Storms. I have other albums like Non Serviam and Kata Ton Daimona Eaytoy, but I gotta listen again. I think I'm only missing Thy Mighty Contract and Sleep of the Angels unless I lost some or forgot to put them on my hard drive.

I put up the "Top 100 Doom albums". Here's the Top 50 Thrash.

Flotsam & Jetsam - Doomsday For The Deceiver
Forbidden - Twisted Into Form
Whiplash - Power & Pain
Testament - Formation of Damnation
Nuclear Assault - Game Over
Sadus - Illusions/Chemical Exposure
Slayer - Seasons In The Abyss
Infernäl Mäjesty - None Shall Defy
Witchery - Restless & Dead
Death Angel - The Ultra-Violence
Sepultura - Arise
Sacrifice - Forward to Termination
Believer - Sanity Obscure
Voivod - War and Pain
Suicidal Tendencies - How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today
Destruction - Infernal Overkill
Prong - Beg to Differ
Municipal Waste -The Art of Partying
Carnivore - Carnivore
Razor - Violent Restitution
Anacrusis - Reason
Pantera - Cowboys From Hell
Sodom - Agent Orange
Slayer - South Of Heaven
Exhorder - Slaughter in the Vatican
Blind Illusion - The Sane Asylum
Sabbat - History Of A Time To Come
Anthrax - Among The Living
The Haunted - The Haunted
Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Overkill - Under the Influence
Megadeth - Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?
Testament - The Legacy
Coroner - No More Color
Metallica - Kill Em All
S.O.D. - Speak English Or Die
Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales
Metallica - ...And Justice For All
Kreator - Pleasure To Kill
Megadeth - Rust In Peace
Exodus - Bonded By Blood
Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Vio-Lence - Eternal Nightmare
Slayer - Hell Awaits
Voivod - Killing Technology
Holy Terror - Mind Wars
Sepultura - Beneath the Remains
Metallica - Master Of Puppets
Slayer - Reign In Blood
Metallica - Ride The Lightning

Holy shit, I got the Sabaton guys to sign my sword

At 12/7/14 08:46 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Holy shit, I got the Sabaton guys to sign my sword

Nice.
Where would someone even have to go to find a band after their set to get something like that signed? And how the hell did you get that into the venue? When I saw them they weren't even allowing people to wear those plastic horned helmets for Amon Amarth's set.

At 12/6/14 09:01 PM, Viper wrote: I put up the "Top 100 Doom albums". Here's the Top 50 Thrash.

Sadus - Illusions/Chemical Exposure

Very good album indeed.

Voivod - War and Pain

My knowledge of Voivod is sadly very limited... dunno why...

Megadeth - Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?

Great album :)

Metallica - Kill Em All

I was expecting this to be at a better rank, and would have placed it higher myself.

S.O.D. - Speak English Or Die

I seriously can't enjoy SOD. I find them silly, and the format of their tracks doesn't allow for much more than one and sometimes two underdevelopped ideas for riffs and song-structures. I find their material to be underwhelming and forgettable at best.

Metallica - ...And Justice For All

...And Justice For All really is a good album. It's kind of progressive to some extent two. Good stuff.

Kreator - Pleasure To Kill

Yip yip yip yip yip!

Megadeth - Rust In Peace

This one should be number one. If there is anything I think about when thinking thrash metal, it's motherfuckin' Rust In Peace!

Exodus - Bonded By Blood

I also do not know much about Exodus, somehow...

Voivod - Killing Technology

Now I just feel bad :(

Metallica - Master Of Puppets

Great album, of course :)

Slayer - Reign In Blood

Fuck you.

Metallica - Ride The Lightning

I was expecting some massive Metallica fanboism, so I'm not surprised :P But Rust In Peace should be number 1!

I'm also surprised that some classics like Morbid Saint's Spectrum Of Death, Demolition Hammer's Epidemic of Violence and Sodom's Agent Orange, are nowhere to be found on this list. Oh well !!!

Only now am I appreciating the greatness of Kalmah, particularly the latest album. I'm slow, aren't I? :P Also got myself into Powerwolf and a few other bands as a result of making a huge playlist of music to listen to whilst playing Skyrim.

Results are fantastic!

After years of research, I came to the conclusion that Boris' album Heavy Rocks (from 2002) simply doesn't exist. I've been looking all over the web and in cd stores, and there is nothing to be found... it pisses me off!

At 12/11/14 03:19 PM, Murray wrote: Only now am I appreciating the greatness of Kalmah, particularly the latest album. I'm slow, aren't I? :P Also got myself into Powerwolf and a few other bands as a result of making a huge playlist of music to listen to whilst playing Skyrim.

The early material of Kalmah is far superior, IMO. The quasi-symbiotic work of the two guitars was absolutely colossal on the first three albums, Swampsong being the highest point of their whole career. It was rawer, less polished, more abbrasive, something that is just missing within the ranks of melodic death metal these days... Raw and unforgiving!

Blood Red Throne - Parnasassian Cacoepy

At 12/5/14 02:01 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: lol I can't believe you called him Kevin James.

Neither can I lol, I swear I was thinking Kevin Smith when I was typing it I don't know what the hell happened. I just got done watching Tusk and I haven't been this baffled by a movie in a long time. It's pretty much exactly what he said it would it would be. As ridiculous as it is I hate body horror so it still freaked me out a bit, and towards the beginning it was actually pretty decently done horror I guess. Only time I laughed really was at the Big Lebowski reference. What a weird fucking movie.

Hollywood Babble on and Jay and Silent Bob Get Old are both done in front of a big live audience and is a little more structured, especially Babble with a bunch of segments with their own jingles. They're more digestible.

I'll give em a shot. I'm gonna try out that Alcest demo in a couple minutes too, thanks Duff. This place really slowed down huh?

At 12/15/14 05:44 AM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote:

At 12/5/14 02:01 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: lol I can't believe you called him Kevin James.

Neither can I lol, I swear I was thinking Kevin Smith when I was typing it I don't know what the hell happened. I just got done watching Tusk and I haven't been this baffled by a movie in a long time. It's pretty much exactly what he said it would it would be. As ridiculous as it is I hate body horror so it still freaked me out a bit, and towards the beginning it was actually pretty decently done horror I guess. Only time I laughed really was at the Big Lebowski reference. What a weird fucking movie.

I've been dying to see Tusk. I intend to rent it as soon as it comes out. It's also full of references to Babble On and SModcast so you might have missed some stuff. I heard that during the end credits they play the conversation Kev and Mos had that led to the idea of the movie. lol I remember when I heard they were actually making the movie cuz I had heard that episode before and I couldn't believe they were really doing it. I was just like "get the fuck out of here, this guy is smoking too much weed".

Hollywood Babble on and Jay and Silent Bob Get Old are both done in front of a big live audience and is a little more structured, especially Babble with a bunch of segments with their own jingles. They're more digestible.

I'll give em a shot. I'm gonna try out that Alcest demo in a couple minutes too, thanks Duff. This place really slowed down huh?

Yeah, the whole forum is way less active than it used to be.

Fucking hell. Theyre doing their first US tour in over a decade and I CAN'T FUCKING GO! WHAT THE HELL!
Electric Wizard announced that they're doing a tour in North America next year.
Dates can be found here.

I'm going to have to check out some of these bands you guys list. I don't listen to nearly as much new music as some of you.

I'd have to say that in terms of listens and overall enjoyment, my favorite albums of the year would have to be:

Carnifex - Die Without Hope

Septicflesh - Titans

Wretched - Cannibal

Honorable mentions go out to:

The Contortionist - Language

Animals as Leaders - The Joy of Motion

Periphery - Clear

Suicide Silence - You Can't Stop Me

Mastodon - Once More 'Round the Sun

I might be forgetting some mainly because a lot of them were pretty forgettable truth be told (The Haunted), and because I don't listen to a ton of new stuff.

Oh - some interesting statistics: Heavy Metal is the #10 most uploaded type of music to the audio portal with 16,573 total uploads. Pretty cool!

Also, don't forget you can follow these threads now and get notifications on new posts. I totally forgot myself so I haven't been participating much lately.

At 12/18/14 06:03 PM, BrenTheMan wrote: I'm going to have to check out some of these bands you guys list. I don't listen to nearly as much new music as some of you.

Which bands that we discuss haven't you heard of?

At 12/19/14 05:18 PM, Viper wrote: Which bands that we discuss haven't you heard of?

Almost all of them, especially in some of these lists. How do you discover bands like this?

At 12/19/14 05:27 PM, BrenTheMan wrote:

At 12/19/14 05:18 PM, Viper wrote: Which bands that we discuss haven't you heard of?

Almost all of them, especially in some of these lists. How do you discover bands like this?

Various ways. Recommendations, metal-archives, bandcamp, last.fm, etc.

At 12/19/14 08:40 PM, SubliminalVirus wrote: so er, if i'm not supposed to be here.....sorry...kinda

Welcome, you belong here. Be sure to subscribe to the thread if you want to get notified when someone posts.

anyway some of my favorite songs/artists would be.

[All good stuff as usual.]

and this guy makes some pretty cool stuff

That was pretty good actually. He seems like a good lead but maybe too unstable...maybe that's good...

I've been working on a Newgrounds heavy metal radio station recently. Did you guys know that the genre "Heavy Metal" is the #10 most uploaded to the audio portal?? Makes me proud.

So I've been listening to NG Heavy Metal Radio tonight (coming soon) and just discovered this amazing NG artist. The song that played was from 2009, and I immediately wondered "hey is he still uploading to NG?" and he is.

There are over 12,000 metal tracks on NG and let me tell you, there is some amazing stuff here. I can't wait to release this to everyone. I've already discovered a few gems just in developing the station.

Thought this was kind of funny. I was checking out Guitar World's 50 Best Albums of 2014 and they chose the new Slipknot album as #1. I've listened to it a few times and it's not terrible, but I am surprised it made #1. Maybe one way they chose this list is by commercial success, I don't know.

Have 1 guaranteed ticket to go see Electric Wizard next April. Totally excited for this cause I didn't think I'd ever get to see em since they haven't toured in North America in over a decade!

Got a Dust vinyl that I ordered in the mail today. Record player isn't playing at the correct speed though so it's slightly too fast.
If anyone doesn't know, Dust were one of the very first American Heavy Metal bands. Formed back in 1969 and split after 2 albums. Dust. And Hard Attack. I have the latter. It shows them maturing as a band and delving into heavier more melodic music. But after this they split up and each member went their separate ways. Mark Bell went on to be known as Marky Ramone and playing with Wayne County and the Backstreet Boys, Estus and Richard Hell & The Voidoids. Kenny Aaronson is known for playing bass with the likes of Rick Derringer, Brian Setzer, BÖC, Billy Idol, Joan Jett, Billy Squier, and Mountain. And Richie Wise became a producer. Best known for producing the first 2 Kiss albums.

At 12/23/14 01:08 PM, Viper wrote: Got a Dust vinyl that I ordered in the mail today.

Interesting. You could be a radio DJ.

At 12/23/14 05:15 PM, BrenTheMan wrote:

At 12/23/14 01:08 PM, Viper wrote: Got a Dust vinyl that I ordered in the mail today.

Interesting. You could be a radio DJ.

I guess. Though I more like collecting the stuff.

At 12/23/14 05:21 PM, Viper wrote: I guess. Though I more like collecting the stuff.

You seem to have a real depth of knowledge about these bands. You kind of remind me of that guy they had DJ on Sirius/XM who wrote a whole book on the history of metal.

At 12/23/14 05:41 PM, BrenTheMan wrote: You seem to have a real depth of knowledge about these bands. You kind of remind me of that guy they had DJ on Sirius/XM who wrote a whole book on the history of metal.

I guess. But sometimes I feel my knowledge is lacking. I'm a till discovering more and more new bands and albums and whatnot from way back when and I won't rest til I have found a good sized chunk of them. A good place that I started at was this blog I found. Someone had compiled I think like 100 "volumes" of old school heavy metal and newer metal bands and at the moment I only have 1-10 downloaded and put in my external hard drive.

Also. Really good band BrenTheMan. Check out Pallbearer.
Sorrow And Extinction
Foundations of Burden

Heavenduff, I'm with you on Scorn Defeat. I still blast Burzum's self titled album, but Sigh is weird in a good way. I can never tell whether or not they're doing the "evil" satanist stuff because they actually believe it or if they're doing it because extreme music to some extent requires extreme lyrical content. I know 99% of black metal artists aren't actually satanists or whatever, but Famine definitely seems to be all about it in interviews which is amusing for sure, but it's like he's read nothing but Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, and La Rochefoucauld. Nothing wrong with that per say, but you know what you're getting into at least when you read about him.

Viper, that's some awesome oldschool stuff. Reminds me of Manilla Road which I love. Never heard of them before seeing your post so thanks man.

At 12/24/14 03:50 AM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote: Viper, that's some awesome oldschool stuff. Reminds me of Manilla Road which I love. Never heard of them before seeing your post so thanks man.

Dust or Pallbearer? Either way they're both pretty great stuff. Though I'd say the artwork from Dust's album looks like something Manilla Road would use.

And this came in the mail. Super stoked to see them next year.

At 12/24/14 03:50 AM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote: Heavenduff, I'm with you on Scorn Defeat. I still blast Burzum's self titled album, but Sigh is weird in a good way. I can never tell whether or not they're doing the "evil" satanist stuff because they actually believe it or if they're doing it because extreme music to some extent requires extreme lyrical content. I know 99% of black metal artists aren't actually satanists or whatever, but Famine definitely seems to be all about it in interviews which is amusing for sure, but it's like he's read nothing but Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, and La Rochefoucauld. Nothing wrong with that per say, but you know what you're getting into at least when you read about him.

I always perceived Sigh as some kind of dramatic act. They write music and lyrics like they write a play. It's all about exploring themes and writing epic scenes (from hell?). Like on Scorn Defeat, they explore some themes linked to Hell, but also to japanase mythology. I personnaly love it, and the fact that they aren't too serious about it, makes it all that much more appealling to me :)