At 8/12/14 12:26 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 8/11/14 07:12 AM, Murray wrote: That reminds me, another advantage to slowing down with getting physical records is not worrying as much about the space needed to put everything. After exceeding 900 for CDs I've found myself with less room and the collection is split in two bedrooms. One day I would like to go through them all and decide which ones I don't want to have anymore.

There is already a few CDs I'd like to take out of my collection, but I can't just throw them away, I want to sell them, but I've never done that before so I'm not quite familiar with the best way to do it.

Yeah, if I'm gonna get rid of some CDs I'd rather sell them. It's hard to say what's the best way to sell off CDs since when I tried getting rid of them on eBay, I didn't get a whole lot for them. You could try selling them off to an independent record shop but you may not get much for them.

And 900 CDs, that's a fucking massive collection, bro!

It sure is and I ended up getting four more yesterday. It's funny, I download a bunch of albums to see what they're like and then I buy a few albums from HMV that I've yet to listen to but I only got them because it was 2 for £10 so I wanted to take advantage of the offer.

At 8/13/14 11:35 PM, Natick wrote: so i saw boris last night in the first concert i have been to in about 4 years

I fucking hate you with a passion!

subrosa and the atlas moth opened for them and they were both fantastic, will definitely check out their music in the future

Cool!

wata and takeshi finally showed up to sound check at about 10:48 pm and the crowd cheered when they finally saw them

Wow! That's fucking late...

they played a lot of stuff from the new album, noise, and some old stuff like pink and statement. they ended off with vomitself from amplifier worship while atsuo messed around with a noisemaker for several minutes before having one of the stage managers or guest musicians bang on his gong while he dived into the crowd after they quit moshing

Must have been awesome. It's kind of sad that they don't have anything from Heavy Rocks (2002) or Feedbacker. But I'd imagine that with such a huge discography, it's tough to include material from every album.

It must have been great tough!

least shit photo i got of them on my phone

It's pretty decent. The stage looks great :)

At 8/14/14 05:29 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Must have been awesome. It's kind of sad that they don't have anything from Heavy Rocks (2002) or Feedbacker. But I'd imagine that with such a huge discography, it's tough to include material from every album.

It must have been great tough!

someone did shout HEAVY ROCKS at one point and you could almost see takeshi and wata trying to suppress their smirks

i would have shouted for feedbacker or flood but they have a busy schedule (playing in another state tonight) and they've probably grown sick of playing those two songs for more than a decade by now

It's pretty decent. The stage looks great :)

it was extremely crowded though, i was standing next to the bathrooms the whole time so people kept budging

deafheaven is coming here again for a september music festival but i don't know if i'll be that desperate to go to one of these events again any time soon, at least not alone

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Iron Maiden is an awesome band, and has many great songs.

At 8/14/14 08:39 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: Iron Maiden is an awesome band, and has many great songs.

Still +1ing, I see. You know, your post count means nothing.

At 8/14/14 08:39 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: Iron Maiden is an awesome band, and has many great songs.

Seriously man, I agree with those statements but if you're not gonna make more constructive discussions here or anywhere else in the C&C forum, it's gonna have to be a ban. Otherwise, I hope you do have some genuine things to say.

At 8/14/14 08:36 PM, Natick wrote: someone did shout HEAVY ROCKS at one point and you could almost see takeshi and wata trying to suppress their smirks

Heavy Rocks is such an amazing album. I'd love to see them play this live :)

i would have shouted for feedbacker or flood but they have a busy schedule (playing in another state tonight) and they've probably grown sick of playing those two songs for more than a decade by now.

Well, they could have played just parts of it. Feedbacker is pretty such divided in 5 parts (it actually exists on record in this 5 tracks format).

it was extremely crowded though, i was standing next to the bathrooms the whole time so people kept budging

I'm kind of tired of going to live shows because of dumb little things like that that end up bothering you and taking up too much of your attention. I especially hate the few dickwads who come up late to the show and force their way through the crowd to get to the first line. During Jex Thoth's set during the Agalloch tour, their was this chubby girl who would fucking bump into me, just to realize that I don't let people take my spot, but you know... if nobody else stops these fucking assholes from cutting through the crowd, what can I possibly do to stop them?

These dicks can so easily ruin your whole night... I eventually come to just dread this eventuality at every show, and so I just feel uneasy until I'm a hundred percent sure that there won't be any fat bitch to steal my place. I think I'll only go to more "aggressive" shows, some that involve some moshing (no hardcore dancing crap, of course). Because at these events, most of the people in the front of the stage are there to move, mosh, body surf, etc. so I won't have issues like at that last Agalloch show I went to.

At 8/15/14 02:04 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'm kind of tired of going to live shows because of dumb little things like that that end up bothering you and taking up too much of your attention. I especially hate the few dickwads who come up late to the show and force their way through the crowd to get to the first line. During Jex Thoth's set during the Agalloch tour, their was this chubby girl who would fucking bump into me, just to realize that I don't let people take my spot, but you know... if nobody else stops these fucking assholes from cutting through the crowd, what can I possibly do to stop them?

come to think of it, there was this one fat woman who just stood next to the bathroom "paths" (you know what i mean, there wasn't necessarily a line) and i turned to look at her to silently acknowledge and make way for her to cross but then she just glared at me for what felt like 3 or 4 minutes and it just made me very uncomfortable. i'll admit i was kind of weirded out by all of her piercings, especially in a dimly lit room but i don't know if i was being death stared because i looked too young to be there or looked like i was cruising for guys or any petty judgmental bullshit. she stared the next guy down until he moved as well, didn't bother to tap his shoulder or ask or anything, it was strange but who cares

These dicks can so easily ruin your whole night... I eventually come to just dread this eventuality at every show, and so I just feel uneasy until I'm a hundred percent sure that there won't be any fat bitch to steal my place. I think I'll only go to more "aggressive" shows, some that involve some moshing (no hardcore dancing crap, of course). Because at these events, most of the people in the front of the stage are there to move, mosh, body surf, etc. so I won't have issues like at that last Agalloch show I went to.

yeah, as the night was coming to a close, my attention did shift to how sore my back was from all the standing.

there was certainly moshing and shouting but no one got aggressive or hurt as far as i know, we all got what we paid for and had a good time.

btw, this is probably an old question that anyone could answer but i noticed their tour was in montana and the show was only 21 and up but here in minnesota, it was 18 and up. does anyone know why some concerts do this? i figured it was because the venues serve alcohol but the place i went to served alcohol as well and they asked for my id at the door and then drew blue x's on my hands and anyone else who was under 21 so the staff had an easy indicator to not serve us. any idea why they would only allow 21 and up at certain venues when their playing the same music? what if i don't want to get drunk but i just want to experience the music? i'd go on to criticize the drinking age in this country but that's a whole 'nother argument...

At 8/15/14 06:26 PM, Natick wrote: yeah, as the night was coming to a close, my attention did shift to how sore my back was from all the standing.

Standing is way harder on the back then walking. That's something that becomes obvious when you have 3 hours to do just standing there to watch live bands.

btw, this is probably an old question that anyone could answer but i noticed their tour was in montana and the show was only 21 and up but here in minnesota, it was 18 and up. does anyone know why some concerts do this? i figured it was because the venues serve alcohol but the place i went to served alcohol as well and they asked for my id at the door and then drew blue x's on my hands and anyone else who was under 21 so the staff had an easy indicator to not serve us. any idea why they would only allow 21 and up at certain venues when their playing the same music? what if i don't want to get drunk but i just want to experience the music? i'd go on to criticize the drinking age in this country but that's a whole 'nother argument...

It doesn't have much to do with the bands playing, really. It's usually a policy of the venue itself. Some venues have general admission policy and use that X system you mentioned or bracelets system (with colors), some have a minimum age requirement, which is also fine, especially for metal concerts. But some other venues seem to not want to go through the trouble of having such a system. I assume that it does make it a little harder for barmen and barmaids when their is such a system to respect.

Sometimes they also want to avoid the contact between drinkers and non-drinkers, which is basically the concept of a bar. Not that it actually prevents you from not drinking alcohol. You could still just go there with your friends and just order Coca-Cola while your friends drink beer.

Or maybe it's about legal matters. I assume that the laws on alcohol and places that serve alcohol aren't the same everywhere, and maybe some states are not okay with minors hanging out in establishments that serve alcohol.

I love Heavy and power metal. On TV i change the channel to MC Metal and just rock on!

At 8/11/14 03:49 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Kalmah

Kalmah is actually one of my favorite bands of all time. Been listening to them before 12 gauge came out and then when 12 gauge did come out I loved them even more. Some middle school memories of listening to them and I'm 20 now, so I go way back with them.

One of the reasons I love them is the same reason I love Wintersun. The power metal influence. It really works well with melodeath and Kalmah's entire theme.

Nightrage

Another great band. I've yet to really discover any of their stuff deeply but will definitely give them a few more listens. Thanks, Duffy boy.

At 8/18/14 01:20 AM, Piemix wrote: Kalmah is actually one of my favorite bands of all time. Been listening to them before 12 gauge came out and then when 12 gauge did come out I loved them even more. Some middle school memories of listening to them and I'm 20 now, so I go way back with them.

Your way back ain't got nothing on my way back :P I was in high school when Swampsong came out, y'all!

Amazing band, of course :)

:: Nightrage

Another great band. I've yet to really discover any of their stuff deeply but will definitely give them a few more listens. Thanks, Duffy boy.

:) I've listened to a lot of Nightrage a few years back. I still love them, though!

Seeing Opeth, In Flames, & Red Fang in December with my gf. Im mainly going for Red Fang and shes going for Opeth haha. So I've been trying to get more acquainted with Opeth's stuff so I can enjoy their set too.

At 8/25/14 07:33 PM, Viper wrote: Seeing Opeth, In Flames, & Red Fang...I've been trying to get more acquainted with Opeth's stuff so I can enjoy their set too.

Nice - listening to Opeth's latest now. So far so good. It's definitely a different sound for them so I'm trying to listen as if they were a new band. I prefer the Blackwater Park / Ghost Reveries / Watershed sound myself.

At 8/25/14 07:33 PM, Viper wrote: Seeing Opeth, In Flames, & Red Fang in December with my gf. Im mainly going for Red Fang and shes going for Opeth haha. So I've been trying to get more acquainted with Opeth's stuff so I can enjoy their set too.

Opeth is amazing, man. Slow, progressive, dark. Keep listening to them and I guarantee they'll grow on you.

I'm not sure if this has ever been discussed (and probably rightly so), but does anyone here listen to hair metal? I'm not saying I do, I actually despise it, but I wanted to know an opinion from someone else on it because some of my favorite bands seem to obsess over these '80s groups. I don't understand it at all and everything about it pisses me off.

At 8/22/14 04:35 PM, SentForMe wrote: Here are three songs from Godsmack's new album "1000HP". Listen, comment, and enjoy.

1000HP
Turning to Stone
Generation Day

No offense, but Godsmack doesn't play metal music.

At 8/27/14 12:05 PM, Piemix wrote: I'm not sure if this has ever been discussed (and probably rightly so), but does anyone here listen to hair metal? I'm not saying I do, I actually despise it, but I wanted to know an opinion from someone else on it because some of my favorite bands seem to obsess over these '80s groups. I don't understand it at all and everything about it pisses me off.

You mean glam rock? I never liked it, but I used to listen to Every Rose Has Its Thorn sometimes.

New Opeth is pretty good. The guitar tone is amazing. I'm on the fourth listen I think.

Although, can Opeth be called metal now?

At 8/27/14 01:09 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: You mean glam rock? I never liked it, but I used to listen to Every Rose Has Its Thorn sometimes.

Yeah, glam metal, sleaze metal bullshit, you know.

I don't know. To me, sleaze metal bands are the most obnoxious bands on the planet. I can't wrap my head around it. To me, personally, metal is music listened to by misfits, and played by misfits. These people seem to be the exact opposite, acting as the cool kids. I don't know, maybe I'm a closed-minded Maiden fan that doesn't understand the other happy, fun side of metal.

there are some glam bands i like, mainly Dokken and Ratt. glam metal was kind of my gateway genre into metal but most of it was awful, then again most of everything is.
Iron Maiden was my favorite band when I was like 13 but I don't listen to them much anymore, a lot of their lyrics kind of make me cringe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNWnX4a_fwc

At 8/28/14 01:53 AM, Piemix wrote: I don't know. To me, sleaze metal bands are the most obnoxious bands on the planet. I can't wrap my head around it. To me, personally, metal is music listened to by misfits, and played by misfits. These people seem to be the exact opposite, acting as the cool kids. I don't know, maybe I'm a closed-minded Maiden fan that doesn't understand the other happy, fun side of metal.

It's not like all metal is underground, though. And especially not Iron Maiden. These guys are probably one of the most commercially successful metal bands along with Metallica, Black Sabbath and Slayer. Not that this is a bad thing, but Maiden aren't misfits... and it's not really a definition that I like anyway. Of course you can't be metal if you're some kind of corporate bullshit product *cough* Baby Metal *cough*, but as long as you're not something like that or some fame and money driven bastard *cough* KISS *cough*, you're fine.

And Glam Metal isn't even something that exists. Every single band that pretends to be glam metal is in fact a glam rock band. And that's true for every single one of them.

lol how the fuck is this not metal. it's more metal than anything iron maiden ever made.

At 8/28/14 06:24 PM, DeIirium wrote: lol how the fuck is this not metal. it's more metal than anything iron maiden ever made.

I don't know this band's music thoroughly, but this track is pretty much on the verge of heavy metal and hard rock. But it's not like playing one genre of music makes it impossible for you to play another one. Boris has a collection of sludge metal albums, and some drone doom albums. Asking me how Dronevil is not drone if I ever said that Boris is a sludge metal band wouldn't make much sense. Maybe you could tell me they play sludge and drone doom, which would pretty much be the only correction needed to my statement.

What I meant, is that glam metal just doesn't exist as a genre. Whenever some band reaches the sound that defines glam rock, they pretty much make a full transition out of metal. I still haven't heard a band mixing actual glam stuff to metal. Like that track you shared, there isn't much glam to it.

At 8/28/14 03:47 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 8/28/14 01:53 AM, Piemix wrote: I don't know. To me, sleaze metal bands are the most obnoxious bands on the planet. I can't wrap my head around it. To me, personally, metal is music listened to by misfits, and played by misfits. These people seem to be the exact opposite, acting as the cool kids. I don't know, maybe I'm a closed-minded Maiden fan that doesn't understand the other happy, fun side of metal.

It's not like all metal is underground, though. And especially not Iron Maiden. These guys are probably one of the most commercially successful metal bands along with Metallica, Black Sabbath and Slayer.

I think people misunderstood my point. My fault.

I don't think most metal musicians should be acting as the cool kids. To me, that's everything metal is not supposed to be. Or, at least, the side of metal I'm used to. Motley Crue act as the popular kids in high school that really do nothing but gloat around on stage about how many girls they can fuck. I'm more into Wintersun and Insomnium preaching about atmospheric and out-of-the-box unconventional things. Much deeper things.

but as long as you're not something like that or some fame and money driven bastard *cough* KISS *cough*, you're fine.

Gene Simmons is a rolling ball of scum.

And Glam Metal isn't even something that exists. Every single band that pretends to be glam metal is in fact a glam rock band. And that's true for every single one of them.

I think you're right. Steel Panther took the same stage with Hammerfall at Wacken this year. How the fuck does that happen?

At 8/30/14 04:07 AM, Piemix wrote: I don't think most metal musicians should be acting as the cool kids. To me, that's everything metal is not supposed to be. Or, at least, the side of metal I'm used to. Motley Crue act as the popular kids in high school that really do nothing but gloat around on stage about how many girls they can fuck. I'm more into Wintersun and Insomnium preaching about atmospheric and out-of-the-box unconventional things. Much deeper things.

Yeah well, I get what you mean. It really isn't just the popularity factor that bothers you, but the douchyness that most popular teenagers convey with it. I'm quite happy that when metal was born, itmanaged to leave behind the douchy "I love fake tits" attitude that a lot of rockers like the guys from Poison and Motley Crue have. It took the best, and left the shit attitude to gimmicky hard rock band :)

Talking about lyrics, I'm deeply in love with Jus Osborn's writing skills. I just love the fusion of stoner lyrical themes to more fantasy driven and traditional doom metal lyrical themes that is at the core of his song-writing. I also love how he manages to thrown in the mix some 60's horror themes and Lovecraft references, or like Mr. Harry Sword said:

"And while the band display a devotion to spiritual riff worship unequaled by anyone bar Iommi himself, they are also a group steeped in hidden knowledge; a trove of the darker angles of counter culture, the cauldron of psychotropic cultural gumbo. Sleaze and exploitation movies, vintage horror, 60s Euro porn, the backstreets of 1980s Soho, Detroit garage rock, HP Lovecraft, Andy Milligan—it is impossible to separate the music of Electric Wizard from their cultural obsessions, and it would be churlish to try. This is no kitsch dalliance, however: The band are devotees of the whole glorious mélange of sleaze and basement innovation that so often surrounds the cinema, art, and music of the late 60s/early 70s underground."

Gene Simmons is a rolling ball of scum.

I freakin' hate this guy!

I think you're right. Steel Panther took the same stage with Hammerfall at Wacken this year. How the fuck does that happen?

That happens a lot, sadly... Especially when it comes to big outdoor festivals. Here in Montreal we had Voivod, Exodus, Epica, Cynic, Slayer, Symphony X, Anthrax, Beyond Creation, Metallica, Overkill and Municipal Waste sharing the stage with Baby Metal, Whitechapel, Three Days Grace, Sworn In, Beheading Of A King, We Came As Romans, Unearth, Twisted Sister and Fucked Up. Should I remind anyone that this even was called the Heavy MTL (Montreal... Metal... you know) and not the Corporate Mallcore Festival of Montreal?

Oh, and there were also some punk bands like Pennywise, Dropkick Murphys (folk, ska, punk) Offspring and Bad Religion on the set. Not that these bands are bad (well, apart from Offspring), but they shouldn't be on a metal festival. But I do know why this is happening though. In the past, punk music had the Vans Warped Tour, but this was overtaken by emo pop rock, pseudo punk à la Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, All American Rejects and a bunch of fringecore bands... so punk bands have been pushed away from their more "natural" festivals and had to find a place where to play...

Meaning of Life is a pretty good song by the Offspring, IMO.

At 8/27/14 02:20 PM, BrenTheMan wrote: New Opeth is pretty good. The guitar tone is amazing. I'm on the fourth listen I think.

Although, can Opeth be called metal now?

I gave it a listen and I have to say I'm impressed. After how not so well Heritage turned out for me, my expectations were actually low this time and I had feared that the new musical direction would have hurt the band but with the new record, I've been proven wrong. Still need to absorb everything from the record but there is definitely stuff that I like from it.

At 9/1/14 01:06 PM, Murray wrote: I gave it a listen and I have to say I'm impressed.

Exactly how I feel - didn't much care for Heritage, but this new album is quite good. The guitar tone is amazing. I might have to get it another listen now.

At 8/31/14 02:48 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Meaning of Life is a pretty good song by the Offspring, IMO.

Not a bad band per say. They just haven't been relevant for the last 8 years... and it's getting pretty obvious.

A few months ago I picked up Behemoth's "The Satanist" and it quickly became one of my favorite albums, and the themes represented in the final track "O Father O Satan O Sun" as detailed in the booklet that came with the CD really intrigued me, and I ended up buying some books and doing a lot of research on the subject.

Long story short, it led to my first tattoo, which I thought I would never get. Anyone else have music related tattoos?

Apologies for the dirty mirror and arms that haven't seen push-ups since basic training