At 8/23/12 04:06 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Well, it's not really about availability :P We know they exist and we know how to get them, but we still have some other stuff we want to check out before this. I myself have downloaded 10 albums I still need to listen to. Right now I'm trying to get some Darkthrone on my library.

Dude I have a shit load of Darkthrone....
I'm trying to slow down with all my downloading because theres still a bunch of music I have that I have yet to listen to xD

At 8/23/12 04:24 PM, Viper50 wrote: Dude I have a shit load of Darkthrone....
I'm trying to slow down with all my downloading because theres still a bunch of music I have that I have yet to listen to xD

I don't download much music anymore... too much stuff to add to my library already :P
I have some stuff on my usb drive and some on my desktop, just waiting to get a listen :)

At 8/23/12 05:33 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I don't download much music anymore... too much stuff to add to my library already :P
I have some stuff on my usb drive and some on my desktop, just waiting to get a listen :)

I still have a good sized amount of my Black Metal to listen to...pretty much JUST listening to Bathory out of that lately....not that im complaining though. Bathory is awesome. Still haven't listened to some of the Gojira I have on there either....same with my Drone Metal. I'll get around to listening to it eventually but its going to take awhile.
I mean I have fucking 800+ albums on my computer and haven't listened to about half of em xD

At 8/23/12 05:33 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I don't download much music anymore... too much stuff to add to my library already :P
I have some stuff on my usb drive and some on my desktop, just waiting to get a listen :)

You should open that Apokatastasia zip and listen.

At 8/23/12 06:04 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 8/23/12 05:33 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I don't download much music anymore... too much stuff to add to my library already :P
I have some stuff on my usb drive and some on my desktop, just waiting to get a listen :)

You should open that Apokatastasia zip and listen.

I don't even remember where I heard of them or how this album ended up on my desktop :P But I will !

Just saw thisand all and all I'd have to say im pretty much only "excited" about 4 of the albums listed here.
And those are: Neurosis, Enslaved, The Sword, and Wintersun

At 8/23/12 06:26 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I don't even remember where I heard of them or how this album ended up on my desktop :P But I will !

probably me. I don't think anybody else here knows them.

Can somebody please remind me why this guy is supposed to be cool ? Cause I don't fucking get it...

At 8/23/12 03:19 PM, Zodir wrote: So, I have started my college experience. My room mate is into metal as is some of my hall mates, and one of them actually introduced me to a solid power metal band called Heavenly. Check 'em out. Unfortunately, this means I won't be able to get as many new albums as I used to, which is sad.

Dude, Heavenly have been one of my favorite power metal bands for YEARS. Glad to see another person likes them. My favorite album by them is Dust to Dust.

At 8/23/12 07:04 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Can somebody please remind me why this guy is supposed to be cool ? Cause I don't fucking get it...

never cared for him myself...my own reasons

i'm kinda freaking out..things happening very fast again...music wise going extremely well
have a friend making me a logo...and she wants to work on a few tracks with me
and Anjan Jyoti Basumatary (Anjan BloodBath)...is now a fan ..wow, that's pretty cool in a way
recording this weekend...loving this comeback more and more
see ya later
Keep it HEAVY
peace

At 8/23/12 09:19 AM, Viper50 wrote: I tend to try keeping my vinyls in as good of condition as when i got em. But sometimes if I get a vinyl thats damaged I go and get another copy if I can because I enjoy listening to vinyls. case in point my Cheap Trick Live at Budokan somehow managed to have a big chunk broken off but it broke off right at the blank space between tracks at I Want You To Want Me. So I can listen to that without it cutting off or anything so thats all good.

Even seeing a chunk missing from a vinyl will look painful no matter what. Might still sound ok, though...

As for the shipping and stuff. I try not to order stuff internationally because shipping tends to cost a lot more. Like for example I went on Rise Above Records' site to see what they had in the way of Electric Wizard stuff in stock and shipping cost the same as the CD so I'd end up spending $40 on a CD....

Unholy Cadaver is a rare exception for me as that was international only. Thankfully I got it from Germany so it's not as bad as American shipping fees.

That saying, getting vinyls mean you certainly have the real deal as it's not so easy to duplicate albums on vinyl like you can with cassette and CD.

It's difficult but not entirely impossible. You'd need A LOT more resources for the vinyl which tends to detract people from duplicating stuff on vinyl more often.

So it would be an extremely rare care. I wouldn't worry about it at all.

It doesn't really help when apart from Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die, the rest of the Ozzy albums are the first six Sabbath classics. Really makes it tough on the weaker albums.

Yeah....you listen to those albums and have really high hopes for the last two and then they kinda disappoint you. I mean Never Say Die somewhat makes up for the lack for more memorable songs from Technical Ecstasy, but not enough to make people want to listen to it over and over again.

It's a good thing Sabbath changed after Never Say Die since Heaven and Hell does bring them back up again. It's a shame after Mob Rules the album quality varies a lot.

Cross Purposes is another hard to obtain album. Again, they really need to re-issue the IRS albums. I was lucky enough to have grabbed TYR from one eBay seller.

I see....so on a scale from 1-10 how easy to find is Tyr? Because I've seen a few copies of that as well....

10 would be along the lines of getting Slough Feg's album (CD - not the vinyl re-issue from this year) on eBay. I'd probably say 7 and that's if you're willing to shell out a bit of money for one CD.

At 8/23/12 05:40 PM, Viper50 wrote: I mean I have fucking 800+ albums on my computer and haven't listened to about half of em xD

I'm like that but with games. Far too much I haven't even played.

At 8/23/12 06:26 PM, Viper50 wrote: Just saw thisand all and all I'd have to say im pretty much only "excited" about 4 of the albums listed here.
And those are: Neurosis, Enslaved, The Sword, and Wintersun

I thought later 2012 would pick up but apart from an album or two, it still feels awfully underwhelming. Hopefully 2013 has a lot to offer. I wonder what the hell happened to the greatness of 2011.

At 8/24/12 09:56 AM, Bahamut wrote: Even seeing a chunk missing from a vinyl will look painful no matter what. Might still sound ok, though...

Well the chunk missing didn't effect the playability of the rest of the vinyl. I mean I would have thought it would have done something to it or whatever...

Unholy Cadaver is a rare exception for me as that was international only. Thankfully I got it from Germany so it's not as bad as American shipping fees.

Well you can pretty much not find ANY Electric Wizard stuff around here. I was lucky enough to get Witchcult Today when I did because there was only one copy of it. Black Masses was easier because it was still sorta "new" when I got it. I still need to get money sent to get my copy of Legalize Drugs & Murder. Counting shipping it was only like $15.

So it would be an extremely rare care. I wouldn't worry about it at all.

Yeah. And you'd only have to worry about something being faked on vinyl if the vinyl they're duplicating is worth a lot, and if they can make up the cost of supplies with what they're selling.

It's a good thing Sabbath changed after Never Say Die since Heaven and Hell does bring them back up again. It's a shame after Mob Rules the album quality varies a lot.

Yeah it sucks....but you're bound to find a few good albums after that though.

10 would be along the lines of getting Slough Feg's album (CD - not the vinyl re-issue from this year) on eBay. I'd probably say 7 and that's if you're willing to shell out a bit of money for one CD.

Ah that reminds me. I was looking around on eBay and I found a copy of Slough Feg for $100...not even entirely sure why I was looking for it when I was. I was looking at Orange Goblin and Sleep stuff....

At 8/23/12 05:40 PM, Viper50 wrote: I mean I have fucking 800+ albums on my computer and haven't listened to about half of em xD

I'm like that but with games. Far too much I haven't even played.

I try to play games I have at least once. But sometimes I dont get around to playing things....
Id say out of my games I haven't played...11 of my PS2 games and 2 of my PS3 games. Im still perplexed by the fact I haven't played my copy of Shadow Of The Colossus.

At 8/23/12 06:26 PM, Viper50 wrote: Just saw this and all and all I'd have to say im pretty much only "excited" about 4 of the albums listed here.
And those are: Neurosis, Enslaved, The Sword, and Wintersun

I thought later 2012 would pick up but apart from an album or two, it still feels awfully underwhelming. Hopefully 2013 has a lot to offer. I wonder what the hell happened to the greatness of 2011.

Yeah it seemed as though a lot of the good albums from this year were released in the first half of this year. I mean yeah there were some good albums that came out recently. But I felt there should have been more. In the mean time we'll have to bide our time to see what else is getting released then. I mean Soundgarden is apparently releasing their new album King Animal in November so im looking forward to that. And Alice In Chains were supposed to be releasing a new album this year but I don't know what happened with that.

Just out of curiosity, who here has given the band Orchid a listen?

At 8/23/12 07:00 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 8/23/12 06:26 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I don't even remember where I heard of them or how this album ended up on my desktop :P But I will !

probably me. I don't think anybody else here knows them.

You always point out bomb ass stuff to me, dude. I think I owe a lot of my bands I listen to your credit, maybe even more than I've showed to you.

Speaking of which, check your PM's.

some band called SkeletonWitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJwkrTVONaM pretty Good

Just listened to Winds of Creation by Decapitated. Fuck, that was awesome.

Also planning on buying Iron Maiden's Powerslave some time soon.

At 8/24/12 06:18 PM, Viper50 wrote: Just out of curiosity, who here has given the band Orchid a listen?

I haven't heard of them. That specific song sounds nice, but it's not quite my style.

At 8/25/12 01:26 AM, BloodCoveredWolf wrote: some band called SkeletonWitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJwkrTVONaM pretty Good

Sounds pretty damn good. There's another band I'm gonna have to check out.

At 8/25/12 02:26 AM, Winrar1337 wrote: Just listened to Winds of Creation by Decapitated. Fuck, that was awesome.

Still their best album to date, and they recorded this when they were teenagers.

At 8/24/12 06:18 PM, Viper50 wrote: Just out of curiosity, who here has given the band Orchid a listen?

Orchid kick ass, been a fan for a while now.

At 8/25/12 03:54 AM, BillPatton wrote: Orchid kick ass, been a fan for a while now.

WOO!!! *high five*
I don't know how I hadn't heard them before I did. But I'm loving all they have out at the moment.
And they got signed to Nuclear Blast not too long ago and are releasing an EP on September 7th :3

At 8/25/12 03:23 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 8/25/12 02:26 AM, Winrar1337 wrote: Just listened to Winds of Creation by Decapitated. Fuck, that was awesome.

Still their best album to date, and they recorded this when they were teenagers.

Yeah, it's quite impressive, and I agree about it being their best. I listened to some songs from Nihility and The Negation and didn't think as highly of them.

Here is some Death Metal bands I've recently Discovered:
Tribulation

Prostitute Disfigurement

Miasmal

Entrails

At 8/24/12 03:59 PM, Viper50 wrote:

Unholy Cadaver is a rare exception for me as that was international only. Thankfully I got it from Germany so it's not as bad as American shipping fees.

Well you can pretty much not find ANY Electric Wizard stuff around here. I was lucky enough to get Witchcult Today when I did because there was only one copy of it. Black Masses was easier because it was still sorta "new" when I got it. I still need to get money sent to get my copy of Legalize Drugs & Murder. Counting shipping it was only like $15.

I don't even check the vinyls HMV have since chances are they'll do a worse job than CDs but a vinyl album for £25 is more justifiable than a £15 CD. Although, with buying so little of vinyls I'm not used to their general prices. Maybe £25 is more for double albums which is easily agreeable.

So it would be an extremely rare care. I wouldn't worry about it at all.

Yeah. And you'd only have to worry about something being faked on vinyl if the vinyl they're duplicating is worth a lot, and if they can make up the cost of supplies with what they're selling.

And they would only try and undercut sales from others so it wouldn't be worth it in the slightest. Google gives me some interesting results on how to copy vinyls but it sounds like a very long process and you better make sure you have the appropriate kits.

10 would be along the lines of getting Slough Feg's album (CD - not the vinyl re-issue from this year) on eBay. I'd probably say 7 and that's if you're willing to shell out a bit of money for one CD.

Ah that reminds me. I was looking around on eBay and I found a copy of Slough Feg for $100...not even entirely sure why I was looking for it when I was. I was looking at Orange Goblin and Sleep stuff....

They can slip in unrelated artists to boost views. It's fine if the artists have strong similarities to them but I see no relation to Sleep and Slough Feg.

I thought later 2012 would pick up but apart from an album or two, it still feels awfully underwhelming. Hopefully 2013 has a lot to offer. I wonder what the hell happened to the greatness of 2011.

Yeah it seemed as though a lot of the good albums from this year were released in the first half of this year. I mean yeah there were some good albums that came out recently. But I felt there should have been more. In the mean time we'll have to bide our time to see what else is getting released then. I mean Soundgarden is apparently releasing their new album King Animal in November so im looking forward to that. And Alice In Chains were supposed to be releasing a new album this year but I don't know what happened with that.

When I consider very few releases left from this year that I'm looking forward and most of the records this year ranged from meh to good but not amazing. However, the one album I do find truly amazing from this year is Dawnbringer's Into the Lair of the Sun God.

At 8/25/12 05:26 PM, Bahamut wrote: I don't even check the vinyls HMV have since chances are they'll do a worse job than CDs but a vinyl album for Ã'£25 is more justifiable than a Ã'£15 CD. Although, with buying so little of vinyls I'm not used to their general prices. Maybe Ã'£25 is more for double albums which is easily agreeable.

Well I've looked through damn near all the vinyls at places around here that sell em. So I have a good idea as to what I can find if im looking for something. Granted I DO still find an okay amount of stuff I haven't seen before. Like up until when I got my copy of Holy Mountain I hadn't seen a copy of Rainbow Bridge by Jimi Hendrix on vinyl, and the place had like 4 copies of it.

And they would only try and undercut sales from others so it wouldn't be worth it in the slightest. Google gives me some interesting results on how to copy vinyls but it sounds like a very long process and you better make sure you have the appropriate kits.

Well all I can say is if something looks "too good to be true" chances are it is. So if anyone goes out looking for vinyls or cds or really anything make sure you know what you're looking for and make sure to look for things that would let you know you're not getting the real thing.

They can slip in unrelated artists to boost views. It's fine if the artists have strong similarities to them but I see no relation to Sleep and Slough Feg.

Yeah I know it's weird. Kinda like when I saw stuff for The Beatles while I was looking for stuff by I think it was either QOTSA or something like that. I can't remember....

When I consider very few releases left from this year that I'm looking forward and most of the records this year ranged from meh to good but not amazing. However, the one album I do find truly amazing from this year is Dawnbringer's Into the Lair of the Sun God.

Id say that even though there were some good releases this year a bunch of em were hit and miss. Granted out of the stuff released I only bought (both metal and non-metal): De Vermis Mysteriis, Yellow & Green, A Different Kind Of Truth, Blunderbuss, the reissue of Dopesmoker from Southern Lord, and my Witchcult Today is a reissue from Metal Blade. But for Witchcult its just got the normal cover art and not the one with the black background and stuff.
All I know is I need to go pick up some more stuff before the year is done. Ya know like Eulogy For The Damned by Orange Goblin, Angels Of Darkness Demons Of Light II by Earth, Relapse by Ministry, Umskiptar by Burzum, L'Enfant Sauvage by Gojira, and Manala by Korpiklaani for stuff thats already been released.
As for stuff being released later this year I want to try to get at least one or two of the following
Legend by Witchcraft, RIITIIR by Enslaved, maybe Time I by Wintersun, and Apocryphon by The Sword. If anything else comes up out of the blue that I'd be interested in I guess I'll try to get that too.

At 8/24/12 09:24 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: You always point out bomb ass stuff to me, dude. I think I owe a lot of my bands I listen to your credit, maybe even more than I've showed to you.

Well, you showed me some bands back in '07 that are still my favorites, like Arcturus, Ulver, and Solefald.

Speaking of which, check your PM's.

I haven't checked out what you mentioned yet, but I will.

At 8/25/12 06:20 PM, Viper50 wrote:

At 8/25/12 05:26 PM, Bahamut wrote: I don't even check the vinyls HMV have since chances are they'll do a worse job than CDs but a vinyl album for Ãf'Ã'£25 is more justifiable than a Ãf'Ã'£15 CD. Although, with buying so little of vinyls I'm not used to their general prices. Maybe Ãf'Ã'£25 is more for double albums which is easily agreeable.

Well I've looked through damn near all the vinyls at places around here that sell em. So I have a good idea as to what I can find if im looking for something. Granted I DO still find an okay amount of stuff I haven't seen before. Like up until when I got my copy of Holy Mountain I hadn't seen a copy of Rainbow Bridge by Jimi Hendrix on vinyl, and the place had like 4 copies of it.

I once saw a Possessed album on vinyl at HMV if that means any good of them.

And they would only try and undercut sales from others so it wouldn't be worth it in the slightest. Google gives me some interesting results on how to copy vinyls but it sounds like a very long process and you better make sure you have the appropriate kits.

Well all I can say is if something looks "too good to be true" chances are it is. So if anyone goes out looking for vinyls or cds or really anything make sure you know what you're looking for and make sure to look for things that would let you know you're not getting the real thing.

This is what concerns me when finding rare albums but really, if the record label themselves want money, how about putting the albums back in print?

When I consider very few releases left from this year that I'm looking forward and most of the records this year ranged from meh to good but not amazing. However, the one album I do find truly amazing from this year is Dawnbringer's Into the Lair of the Sun God.

Id say that even though there were some good releases this year a bunch of em were hit and miss. Granted out of the stuff released I only bought (both metal and non-metal): De Vermis Mysteriis, Yellow & Green, A Different Kind Of Truth, Blunderbuss, the reissue of Dopesmoker from Southern Lord, and my Witchcult Today is a reissue from Metal Blade. But for Witchcult its just got the normal cover art and not the one with the black background and stuff.

I've bought around 30 releases from this year and this is what I feel mostly sticks out:

Baroness - Yellow & Green (particularly Yellow, not so much for Green)
Dawnbringer - Into the Lair of the Sun God
DragonForce - The Power Within (I must be crazy to even mention them)
Grand Magus - The Hunt
Hellwell - Beyond the Boundaries of Sin (but maybe I'm a little too Manilla Road obsessed so that's why this gets a pass so easily)
Kreator - Phantom Antichrist
Rush - Clockwork Angels
Sonata Arctica - Stones Grow Her Name
Sigh - In Somniphobia
Storm Corrosion - S/T

I guess it's not as bad as I thought but more great relases that we WILL remember would help.

At 8/26/12 12:30 PM, Bahamut wrote: I once saw a Possessed album on vinyl at HMV if that means any good of them.

Hmm I've never seen anything by Possessed around here. I guess its no surprise since (not even joking) I can't even find ...And Justice For All (which is in my opinion Metallica's last decentish album because the Black Album is an overrated a pile of crap) around here. Which is weird considering I have found my fair share of rare or rareish albums here....

This is what concerns me when finding rare albums but really, if the record label themselves want money, how about putting the albums back in print?

I wonder this all the time. If you have an album thats really desirable why not at least putting it back in print for at least a bit to get more money on their end?

Baroness - Yellow & Green (particularly Yellow, not so much for Green)

I actually completely agree with you on that. Although Green does have a few okay songs (Green Theme, Collapse, The Line Between)

DragonForce - The Power Within (I must be crazy to even mention them)

I kept seeing stuff for that and as im not the biggest Dragonforce fan I didn't feel like getting it.

Rush - Clockwork Angels

I wanted to get that but for some reason I never got around to it...

Hmm...did you get around to listening to Lillie: F-65? It's not my favorite Saint Vitus album but its still not all bad. Granted my favorite is probably either Born Too Late or V.

At 8/24/12 09:24 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Speaking of which, check your PM's.

I'm loving both of the artists you mentioned.

Neo Inferno 262 - F.A.I.T.H.

At 8/26/12 01:05 PM, Viper50 wrote:

At 8/26/12 12:30 PM, Bahamut wrote: I once saw a Possessed album on vinyl at HMV if that means any good of them.

Hmm I've never seen anything by Possessed around here. I guess its no surprise since (not even joking) I can't even find ...And Justice For All (which is in my opinion Metallica's last decentish album because the Black Album is an overrated a pile of crap) around here. Which is weird considering I have found my fair share of rare or rareish albums here....

If you can't even find a Metallica album around here (just vinyl or not finding it at all), then the whole area is in trouble. As for black album, I like it but it's certainly the weakest out of the first five albums. I feel they trapped themselves with filler for the last 3-4 songs but the rest I can still dig.

This is what concerns me when finding rare albums but really, if the record label themselves want money, how about putting the albums back in print?

I wonder this all the time. If you have an album thats really desirable why not at least putting it back in print for at least a bit to get more money on their end?

And this is where I respect Manilla Road. Although it's not instant, at least some labels are working on re-releasing all their albums because they know how hard it is to get some of their albums. They still need to re-issue Metal, Mystification and Out of the Abyss but I'm sure that's being considered. Re-issuing The Deluge last year was a blessing since beforehand the CD was going for £90. There's been stories of people spending as much as $1,000 for Mark of the Beast due to its extreme rarity at one point.

Baroness - Yellow & Green (particularly Yellow, not so much for Green)

I actually completely agree with you on that. Although Green does have a few okay songs (Green Theme, Collapse, The Line Between)

There are some ok songs from Green but compared to Yellow, it's really lacking.

DragonForce - The Power Within (I must be crazy to even mention them)

I kept seeing stuff for that and as im not the biggest Dragonforce fan I didn't feel like getting it.

I blame you. DragonForce have had a bad reputation for a long time now. I was ready to write them off with this album for doing the same shit but then I heard Cry Thunder and thought, "Hey, they actually improved."

Hmm...did you get around to listening to Lillie: F-65? It's not my favorite Saint Vitus album but its still not all bad. Granted my favorite is probably either Born Too Late or V.

Yeah, Lillie: F-65 isn't so memorable in comparison to Born Too Late. Lackluster albums like that make me feel this year has gone slow for metal.

At 8/27/12 09:50 AM, Bahamut wrote: If you can't even find a Metallica album around here (just vinyl or not finding it at all), then the whole area is in trouble. As for black album, I like it but it's certainly the weakest out of the first five albums. I feel they trapped themselves with filler for the last 3-4 songs but the rest I can still dig.

I mean there isn't a lack of Metallica around here...its just all you can really find are Master Of Puppet and the black album to Death Magnetic. I had a hell of a time getting Ride The Lightning and Kill Em All. For The Black Album id say theres only maybe 2 or 3 songs I am okay with on there.

And this is where I respect Manilla Road. Although it's not instant, at least some labels are working on re-releasing all their albums because they know how hard it is to get some of their albums. They still need to re-issue Metal, Mystification and Out of the Abyss but I'm sure that's being considered. Re-issuing The Deluge last year was a blessing since beforehand the CD was going for Ã'£90. There's been stories of people spending as much as $1,000 for Mark of the Beast due to its extreme rarity at one point.

$1000! Holy shit dude...I don't think id ever go out of my way to spend that much of an album. Unless I had the kind of income where that would be nothing to me. I think the most I've ever spent on something music wise was maybe $30-$40

DragonForce - The Power Within (I must be crazy to even mention them)

I kept seeing stuff for that and as im not the biggest Dragonforce fan I didn't feel like getting it.

I blame you. DragonForce have had a bad reputation for a long time now. I was ready to write them off with this album for doing the same shit but then I heard Cry Thunder and thought, "Hey, they actually improved."

Well its mostly because I hear almost nothing but bad things when it comes to Dragonforce. So its kinda made me not want to get into em too much. I mean don't get me wrong they have some okay songs, but everything else seems to be like "hey lets see how fast we can play" thing.
Although I am liking that song.

Hmm...did you get around to listening to Lillie: F-65? It's not my favorite Saint Vitus album but its still not all bad. Granted my favorite is probably either Born Too Late or V.

Yeah, Lillie: F-65 isn't so memorable in comparison to Born Too Late. Lackluster albums like that make me feel this year has gone slow for metal.

Well at least they had Wino back for that album...I can't really explain why but I did not like C.O.D. or Die Healing...
Although I DID like Saint Vitus and Hallow's Victim

I've listened to Ensiferum's Unsung Heroes and one thing I can confirm is that it does not top From Afar. I knew it would be too difficult of a task to do but the new album is still great. Definitely liking the last track the most for taking all sorts of directions. Easily the most unpredictable song out of the lot, especially when I was expecting a Heathen Throne vibe. Nothing like that here.

At 8/27/12 10:48 AM, Viper50 wrote:

At 8/27/12 09:50 AM, Bahamut wrote: If you can't even find a Metallica album around here (just vinyl or not finding it at all), then the whole area is in trouble. As for black album, I like it but it's certainly the weakest out of the first five albums. I feel they trapped themselves with filler for the last 3-4 songs but the rest I can still dig.

I mean there isn't a lack of Metallica around here...its just all you can really find are Master Of Puppet and the black album to Death Magnetic. I had a hell of a time getting Ride The Lightning and Kill Em All. For The Black Album id say theres only maybe 2 or 3 songs I am okay with on there.

Damn, the first four should be the easiest to find just because they're the best. :P And to think last time I went to London HMV I got one guy to pick up ALL FOUR Metallica classics. He only wanted to check out Kill 'Em All but ended up getting Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets and ...And Justice for All at once. Those 2 for 10 pound offers really do the trick.

$1000! Holy shit dude...I don't think id ever go out of my way to spend that much of an album. Unless I had the kind of income where that would be nothing to me. I think the most I've ever spent on something music wise was maybe $30-$40

Yeah, I have my limits with what I spend. I even think 20 for Headless Cross is a bit too much. It's Black Sabbath so I should be more desperate but not like how I was with most Manilla Road albums. Most costed me 15.

I blame you.

Whoa whoa whoa, did I actually say that? I obviously meant I DON'T blame you.

Well its mostly because I hear almost nothing but bad things when it comes to Dragonforce. So its kinda made me not want to get into em too much. I mean don't get me wrong they have some okay songs, but everything else seems to be like "hey lets see how fast we can play" thing.

Just stick with Valley of the Damned and the last album and you should be safe. Not saying the latest one is a masterpiece but it's putting them in the right direction.

Yeah, Lillie: F-65 isn't so memorable in comparison to Born Too Late. Lackluster albums like that make me feel this year has gone slow for metal.

Well at least they had Wino back for that album...I can't really explain why but I did not like C.O.D. or Die Healing...
Although I DID like Saint Vitus and Hallow's Victim

To tell you the truth, I don't have all the Saint Vitus albums so that's something I need to work on but right now, I would like to get more Agalloch.