At 8 hours ago, HeavenDuff wrote: So you think Canvas Solaris aren't that much of a good technical metal band.

They're hit and miss. They do have some really good stuff.

At 4 hours ago, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 8 hours ago, HeavenDuff wrote: So you think Canvas Solaris aren't that much of a good technical metal band.

They're hit and miss. They do have some really good stuff.

They come off as pretentious a lot of the time, but I really dig The Atomized Dream.

I am gone for a while and when I come back the whole layout has changed. I quite like it, actually. Anyway, what does Metal Hell think about Drudkh?

At 16 hours ago, Bahamut wrote:

At 3 hours ago, Viper50 wrote: how was everyone's Valentine's Day?

I'd say a bigger significance for 14th February is Johnny Bravo's birthday. :P

How can i forgot Johnny Bravo´s birthday?

At 3 hours ago, Viper50 wrote: also...
the emote
doesnt it look like the mouth is just a big mustache?

I can´t see any mustache

Also, what do you guys think about Necrophobic?

So, Iron Maiden just announced their big North American tour. And they have a date in Indy!!! It looks like I'll be able to see them along with Alice Cooper live! i am so excited.

At 1 hour ago, K2LU wrote: I am gone for a while and when I come back the whole layout has changed. I quite like it, actually. Anyway, what does Metal Hell think about Drudkh?

I haven't heard of them till now. They sound pretty awesome so far. Never thought I would see you around here.

At A few seconds ago, Anti-pie wrote:

At 1 hour ago, K2LU wrote: I am gone for a while and when I come back the whole layout has changed. I quite like it, actually. Anyway, what does Metal Hell think about Drudkh?

I haven't heard of them till now. They sound pretty awesome so far. Never thought I would see you around here.

Oops my bad I saw the K2 and thought you were someone else who also had that.

At 3 hours ago, AllMightyBruce wrote: They come off as pretentious a lot of the time, but I really dig The Atomized Dream.

My favorite song I've heard by them is Interface. I have it on my "chill" playlist, which I tend to leave on when I'm sleeping or just spacing out. I only have the albums Sublimation and Cortical Tectonics. Other than Interface, the songs I particularly like from those are Gamma Knife and Ekstatik Parataxis, but much of those albums are forgettable. I've never listened to the Atomized Dream.

At 2 hours ago, K2LU wrote: Anyway, what does Metal Hell think about Drudkh?

Drudkh is good.

I'm really happy I started listenning to Black Sabbath. My journey through metal really has been weird since day one. It's really strange how I got into Doom Metal through bands like Electric Wizard, Bongripper and the other heavily distorted and crushing bands like these to finaly follow their trail back to their ancestors, Black Sabbath. In fact, I have done that with countless bands. I have ignored many of the pioneers and got into bands heavily influenced by these to later find out, that they are also pretty much worth it.

Thanks Bahamut for introducing me to Master Of Reality, which is so far... my favorite by Black Sabbath :)

At 8 hours ago, K2LU wrote: I am gone for a while and when I come back the whole layout has changed. I quite like it, actually. Anyway, what does Metal Hell think about Drudkh?

Fantastic band actually. I never managed to get a lot of their albums. So I'm stuck with only one to listen to. I shall dig deeper into them sometime in the future !

Also, one of my buddies posted this online recently...

At 5 hours ago, HeavenDuff wrote: Thanks Bahamut for introducing me to Master Of Reality, which is so far... my favorite by Black Sabbath :)

I do recommend it with pride. Although I'm wanting to hold off reviewing all the biggest metal albums since you'll hear countless amount of opinions elsewhere, I feel Master of Reality has to be reviewed.

Also, one of my buddies posted this online recently...

Sad but true. You could go and speak to the news stations about Quorthon but they wouldn't even give a fuck about him innovating black/viking metal. Very depressing world we have, especially when a shitty British soap opera actress is mentioned on the news for having breast cancer but no fucking word on the death of Dio.

Hey Bahamut, has anyone told you that your username would be the perfect band name for a blackened death metal group> I don't know what that word means, or if it already is a band, but seriously.

Speaking of blackened death metal, I want some recommendations:

Bands I love - Goatwhore, Angelcorpse, Witchaven
Bands I think are decent - Behemoth, Kataklysm, Hate
Band I can't stand - Belphegor

Recommend me some good blackened death metal / REALLY-black thrash metal? :)

Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet (album)

At 2 minutes ago, AniMetal wrote: Hey Bahamut, has anyone told you that your username would be the perfect band name for a blackened death metal group> I don't know what that word means, or if it already is a band, but seriously.

It was a black metal band at one point.

At 8 hours ago, HeavenDuff wrote: Also, one of my buddies posted this online recently...

its awful when actual musicians die and next to no one says really anything
then some stupid person dies and its all over the place saying "oh she was an inspiration to all these people and blah blah blah" and a bunch of other bullshit like that.
seriously i dare someone to pick up an album he played on and tell me he wasn't an absolutely amazing musician

im going to listen to Bathory now...

Just picked up Dream Theater A change of Seasons and Led Zeppelin II.

At 5 hours ago, AniMetal wrote: Recommend me some good blackened death metal / REALLY-black thrash metal? :)

Let me see....How about Necrophobic, Unanimated and Nifelheim.
If you want to check them

At 7 hours ago, AniMetal wrote: Recommend me some good blackened death metal / REALLY-black thrash metal? :)

Only one I can think of right now is Panzerchrist.

Panzerchrist - Suicide

The sound quality is fucking horrible on YouTube and there is also some random blanks at the beginning and end of the track... whatever. I'm sure you'll be able to imagine how the real thing sounds. The quality production of the real thing is amazing, btw.

And Black Thrash... Does that even exist as a genre? I know Black Metal evolved from Thrash Metal... and I know Immortal are considered Blackened Thrash Metal. Only other bands that comes to my mind when you say black thrash are Sigh and maybe... and I said MAYBE... Venom.

At 9 hours ago, Bahamut wrote: Sad but true. You could go and speak to the news stations about Quorthon but they wouldn't even give a fuck about him innovating black/viking metal. Very depressing world we have, especially when a shitty British soap opera actress is mentioned on the news for having breast cancer but no fucking word on the death of Dio.

They set their priorities based on how many copies they will sell and not on actual information. Which is sad, but as long as the medias will depend on commercial success, shit like that will happen over and over again...

At 5 hours ago, Viper50 wrote: its awful when actual musicians die and next to no one says really anything
then some stupid person dies and its all over the place saying "oh she was an inspiration to all these people and blah blah blah" and a bunch of other bullshit like that.
seriously i dare someone to pick up an album he played on and tell me he wasn't an absolutely amazing musician

I can't hate on Whitney Houston... but what did she accomplish that was so over the top? I mean, if it wasn't for "I will always love you" or whatever that song is called, she wouldn't have had half of the media attention she had... and she surely wouldn't have been so acclaimed by the pop industry and pop fanbase...

Am I right?

Blackened thrash metal isn't actually a genre, but it's how I like to view bands like Exumer, Kreator, Sodom, Witchaven, etc.

I will check out those bands, thanks sirs.

Also, this is the best thing ever.

^That.

So em, I would like to play bass again. Stopped because I didn't get any luck finding any good tabs online. But now, I'm thinking about learning some Black Sabbath.

Only tabs book I found so far (and that is worth it) is a tab book for We Sold Our Soul For Rock 'n' Roll. And I was just wondering if you guys thought that the tracklisting was good enough, not too hard to learn, etc.

Thanks bros !

Infected Mushroom - Tasty Mushroom

U mad?

At 35 minutes ago, AniMetal wrote: Blackened thrash metal isn't actually a genre, but it's how I like to view bands like Exumer, Kreator, Sodom, Witchaven, etc.

What?! Sodom blackened thrash metal?! i don´t think so.

Also since you posted that you were looking for bands black thrash metal, I was looking for bands and found this: Razor Of Occam.
Really i don´t know if they are black thrash metal, but as I always say "try new things" \m/

At 7 hours ago, AniMetal wrote: Recommend me some good blackened death metal / REALLY-black thrash metal? :)

hmm... For black/death or blackened death, you got Melechesh, Mirrortrhone, Mytile Vey Lorth (I intend to get some of their stuff soon-ish), Dissection, Ackercocke, God Dethroned, Vahrwaw, Vesania, Myrkskog, and Earl Shilton. Witchery tends to have mixtures of thrash, black, and death. At least, the later stuff has some death-ish sound to it. For black/thrash or blackened thrash or whatever, I guess Sodom is too obvious, but they're tits. Another obvious one would be Skeletonwitch. There's also Hellbreaker, Desaster, and Aura Noir. There are also the early bands that helped evolve thrash into black metal, like Hellhammer and Venom and the like.

At 19 minutes ago, rockereaper wrote: What?! Sodom blackened thrash metal?! i donÃ'´t think so.

Yes, Sodom is black/thrash, though moreso thrash. Their earlier stuff is more obvious with the black influence.

Got some more albums

Abbey ov Thelema - Fragment ov the Great Work
Emperor - in the Nightshade Apocalypse
Emperor - Prometheus: the Discipline of Fire and Demise

Considering my love for Ihsahn's work, I guess it took me way too long to get some Emperor stuff. I know pretty much nothing about Abbey of Thelema, so I'll share my thoughts whenever I get around to listening to their album.

At A few seconds ago, Sense-Offender wrote: Vahrwaw

typo. That should be "Vahrzaw".

At 1 hour ago, HeavenDuff wrote: So em, I would like to play bass again. Stopped because I didn't get any luck finding any good tabs online. But now, I'm thinking about learning some Black Sabbath.

Black Sabbath is a good place to start. You should probably try to ween yourself from tabs, just saying. Though it can be quick a quick way to learn songs, you don't really progress as a musician, and sometimes the tabs are wrong (or don't even exist). Black Sabbath is good for ear training, because the bass is extremely audible.

At 24 minutes ago, Sense-Offender wrote: hmm... For black/death or blackened death, you got Melechesh, Mirrortrhone, Mytile Vey Lorth (I intend to get some of their stuff soon-ish), Dissection, Ackercocke, God Dethroned, Vahrwaw, Vesania, Myrkskog, and Earl Shilton. Witchery tends to have mixtures of thrash, black, and death. At least, the later stuff has some death-ish sound to it. For black/thrash or blackened thrash or whatever, I guess Sodom is too obvious, but they're tits. Another obvious one would be Skeletonwitch. There's also Hellbreaker, Desaster, and Aura Noir. There are also the early bands that helped evolve thrash into black metal, like Hellhammer and Venom and the like.

I was always happy with the music you recommanded in the past, so I thought I should check out some of the bands you have listed :)

Melechesh, Mirrorthrone, God Dethroned, Vesania are the first few bands I will check out. Thanks :)

At 8 minutes ago, Tobi wrote: Black Sabbath is a good place to start. You should probably try to ween yourself from tabs, just saying. Though it can be quick a quick way to learn songs, you don't really progress as a musician, and sometimes the tabs are wrong (or don't even exist). Black Sabbath is good for ear training, because the bass is extremely audible.

So you think I should learn from ear right from the start? I thought I should do that sometime in my learning process, but right from the start? You sure? :O

At 29 minutes ago, HeavenDuff wrote: So you think I should learn from ear right from the start? I thought I should do that sometime in my learning process, but right from the start? You sure? :O

I meant gradually, sorry if I didn't make that clear. But hell, learning early is good, so give it a try if you please. Tabs are by no means a bad thing either, I use them quite a bit. Just inconvenient if you want to develop a better understanding with instruments other than your own. Reading sheet music, though not required, is a good goal to set too.

I suggest learning Electric Funeral on bass by ear. It mainly follows the guitar (though I don't think the bass has palm mutes), is easy as hell, and is good for learning how a semitone sounds.

At 36 minutes ago, Tobi wrote:

At 29 minutes ago, HeavenDuff wrote: So you think I should learn from ear right from the start? I thought I should do that sometime in my learning process, but right from the start? You sure? :O

I meant gradually, sorry if I didn't make that clear. But hell, learning early is good, so give it a try if you please. Tabs are by no means a bad thing either, I use them quite a bit. Just inconvenient if you want to develop a better understanding with instruments other than your own. Reading sheet music, though not required, is a good goal to set too.

I suggest learning Electric Funeral on bass by ear. It mainly follows the guitar (though I don't think the bass has palm mutes), is easy as hell, and is good for learning how a semitone sounds.

i started off learning from tabs then after like a year of getting nowhere i took guitar lessons and now i can learn some stuff by ear and if i think i figured it out by ear but im not too sure its correct i go searching for a tab to see if someone posted something for the song to see if anyone else thought it was played the way i was playing it

and i agree with the Electric Funeral thing its REALLY easy
i learned it on guitar in less than 5 minutes
so if it mainly follows the guitar id already know how to play it before i picked up a bass
which i could do since my sister plays bass...
granted i know bass guitar and...guitar guitar are different
i dabble in playing bass
Paranoid is also really easy to learn by ear for bass

and you should totally learn N.I.B. on bass

i love the intro :P

I just wrote a review for Khlyst's album Chaos Is My Name. I submitted it to the queue on Metal Archives. I will share with you guys whenever they give me feedback. If they don't accept it, I will also share it with you guys, so maybe I can get some feedback from you guys.

At 1 hour ago, Tobi wrote: I meant gradually, sorry if I didn't make that clear. But hell, learning early is good, so give it a try if you please. Tabs are by no means a bad thing either, I use them quite a bit. Just inconvenient if you want to develop a better understanding with instruments other than your own. Reading sheet music, though not required, is a good goal to set too.

I learned to play the saxophone with sheet music, but it just seems to be very unpopular among guitarists and bassists.

I learn some tracks with a buddy of mine who plays the guitar. He tabs his own stuff so I learn from him two, which is cool. I hope to be good enough some day so we write stuff together :)

I suggest learning Electric Funeral on bass by ear. It mainly follows the guitar (though I don't think the bass has palm mutes), is easy as hell, and is good for learning how a semitone sounds.

Thanks for the suggestion, Tobi !

I'd really like to learn some stuff from Master Of Reality though. Damn! That album rules!

At 1 day ago, Sense-Offender wrote: My favorite song I've heard by them is Interface. I have it on my "chill" playlist, which I tend to leave on when I'm sleeping or just spacing out.

Yeah same. You'd probably dig The Atomized Dream if you're into those songs.

At 46 minutes ago, HeavenDuff wrote: I learned to play the saxophone with sheet music, but it just seems to be very unpopular among guitarists and bassists.

I'm guessing you mean amongst metal guitarists/bassists. It's pretty understandable in metal, seeing as things are usually fast and mostly power chords, I'd be a big waste of time/resources. But either way, it's still a good goal. Lots of techy players who take ques from classical or jazz usually learn to read.

Speaking of jazz and classical, they are great areas for improvement. Learning Chord nomenclature ( that is, the notes in a chord, so you can play arpeggios. You'll rarely hear chords on bass beyond a power chord on the high strings) is pretty valuable. Jazz and contemporary Classical bass is actually kind of similar to bass in metal. Though you'll likely never use it in metal, learning to play walking basslines are very helpful, as well as your Chromatic and Diatonic scales.

I learn some tracks with a buddy of mine who plays the guitar. He tabs his own stuff so I learn from him two, which is cool. I hope to be good enough some day so we write stuff together :)

Good luck. Just remember, you don't have to be a virtuoso to compose a good song. Don't make the same mistake I did and wait till you have a ton of theory on your back to write. You'll drown in you're own analysis ( I totally stole that from a King Crimson song :) )

Thanks for the suggestion, Tobi !

No problem.

I'd really like to learn some stuff from Master Of Reality though. Damn! That album rules!

Master of Reality is a bit harder to tackle by ear. The bass is either in unison with the down-tuned guitar, or very independent and hard to make out. Sweet Leaf is a good song to learn by ear, the rest I think you're better off just looking at tabs for now. I'm not the best at pitch, so who knows, you might have a way better ear than me.

I'm happy knowing that I went on a prog rock spree today. I picked up Camel's Mirage, Genesis' Foxtrot, Jethro Tull's The Broadsword and the Beast and Marillion's Misplaced Childhood. I don't have an iPhone or anything so I couldn't check up on Genesis when I was at HMV to check which one is from what's considered the better era from them. Looks like Foxtrot is a good choice. I should see about picking up more prog rock. I know I should just bump the prog rock club to talk about this but if anyone knows Caravan, which would be the ideal album to get?

At 13 hours ago, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 9 hours ago, Bahamut wrote: Sad but true. You could go and speak to the news stations about Quorthon but they wouldn't even give a fuck about him innovating black/viking metal. Very depressing world we have, especially when a shitty British soap opera actress is mentioned on the news for having breast cancer but no fucking word on the death of Dio.

They set their priorities based on how many copies they will sell and not on actual information. Which is sad, but as long as the medias will depend on commercial success, shit like that will happen over and over again...

Well that's it but even then, how do you not mention motherfucking Ronnie James Dio? He's one of the biggest rock icons and he gets missed out?

I recall Ronnie James Dio's death being on the news, of course not as much as Whitney Houston's, it's natural that the more popular musician would have a more publicized death.