At 2/3/12 11:17 PM, Viper50 wrote:

At 2/3/12 11:12 PM, Tremulos wrote: Hey guys, I'm somewhat new to the forums here. Are there any requisites for joining this most exclusive club, or do I just jump into the conversation?

you have to give us a list of bands you listen to
then we'll gauge whether or not you'd fit in here

Ah, alright. Metal bands, I assume. Let's see, what is the most metal music I listen to...

Linkin Park
Limp Bizkit

I'm joking. Alright, seriously this time, in no particular order:

Watain
Facebreaker
Agalloch
The Project Hate MCMXCIX
Bloodbath
Decapitated
Blood Red Throne
Vomitory
Torture Division
Vader
Dark Funeral
Candlemass
Draconian
Fleshgod Apocalypse
Amon Amarth
Wolves in the Throne Room
Symphony X
Dimmu Borgir (although not necessarily their 3 most recent releases)
Strapping Young Lad
Witchery
Ram-Zet
Witchbreed
Satariel
Meshuggah
Megadeth
Keep of Kalessin
Jungle Rot
Dissection
Kalmah
Emperor

Is that enough?

At 2/3/12 11:26 PM, Tremulos wrote:

At 2/3/12 11:17 PM, Viper50 wrote:

At 2/3/12 11:12 PM, Tremulos wrote: Hey guys, I'm somewhat new to the forums here. Are there any requisites for joining this most exclusive club, or do I just jump into the conversation?

you have to give us a list of bands you listen to
then we'll gauge whether or not you'd fit in here

Ah, alright. Metal bands, I assume. Let's see, what is the most metal music I listen to...

Linkin Park
Limp Bizkit

I'm joking. Alright, seriously this time, in no particular order:

Watain
Facebreaker
Agalloch
The Project Hate MCMXCIX
Bloodbath
Decapitated
Blood Red Throne
Vomitory
Torture Division
Vader
Dark Funeral
Candlemass
Draconian
Fleshgod Apocalypse
Amon Amarth
Wolves in the Throne Room
Symphony X
Dimmu Borgir (although not necessarily their 3 most recent releases)
Strapping Young Lad
Witchery
Ram-Zet
Witchbreed
Satariel
Meshuggah
Megadeth
Keep of Kalessin
Jungle Rot
Dissection
Kalmah
Emperor

Is that enough?

hmm
seems like a pretty decent list
although i liked Abrahadabra D:
and would that be counting their re-recording of Stormblåst?
or would that be Death Cult Armageddon?

At 2/3/12 11:42 PM, Viper50 wrote: hmm
seems like a pretty decent list
although i liked Abrahadabra D:
and would that be counting their re-recording of Stormblåst?
or would that be Death Cult Armageddon?

Abrahadabra does have some extremely interesting elements, but to me it feels very commercial, very "not metal" if that makes sense. I was not including the re-recording of Stormblast, which is okay but I prefer the original. There are a few songs from DCA and ISD that I enjoy, but as a whole I don't much care for either album. Of course, it is possible that my opinion is influenced by all the other people who have been criticizing Dimmu for a while now. Enthrone Darkness Triumph, Spiritual Black Dimension, and Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia remain my favorite DB albums. They have a lot of dark beauty and atmosphere that is missing in the recent albums, for me at least.

At 2/3/12 05:41 PM, AniMetal wrote: So Bill Ward is being a douchebag and has issued a public statement that he will not be part of the Black Sabbath reunion tour or album unless he's paid more money.

I can't even believe this... These guys are all rich, how much more money do you need to be proud of what you achieved in life? Nice set of priorities there...

So now it's Ozzy, Iommi and Geezer with a drummer to be announced.

So much for the original lineup...

...

Shakira - Whenever, Wherever

I lol'ed

At 2/3/12 11:06 PM, SomaGuye wrote: I'm not sure how you guys feel about post metal but this mash up has reduced me to tears more than once.

Isn't the band This Will Destroy You a Post-Rock band?

At 2/3/12 11:26 PM, Tremulos wrote: Is that enough?

Yes, definitely :)
Welcome in !

Agalloch
Decapitated
Blood Red Throne
Fleshgod Apocalypse
Wolves in the Throne Room
Symphony X
Megadeth
Kalmah

And those bands you have listed, are amongs my favorite bands also. I'm happy to see someone who has similar tastes in metal join in.

Blood Red Throne is one of my all time favorites, and it's kind of sad that not many of the members of the Metal Hell highly enjoy their music. I believe they are the best active Death Metal band :)

At 2/3/12 11:46 PM, Tremulos wrote: Abrahadabra does have some extremely interesting elements, but to me it feels very commercial, very "not metal" if that makes sense. I was not including the re-recording of Stormblast, which is okay but I prefer the original. There are a few songs from DCA and ISD that I enjoy, but as a whole I don't much care for either album. Of course, it is possible that my opinion is influenced by all the other people who have been criticizing Dimmu for a while now. Enthrone Darkness Triumph, Spiritual Black Dimension, and Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia remain my favorite DB albums. They have a lot of dark beauty and atmosphere that is missing in the recent albums, for me at least.

well i cant deny the fact that their older albums are better than the newer ones...
i cant really decide which would be my favorite though
its too hard to decide that

oh and on a side note...
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
level 19 :D
i dont know why i decided to just announce that out of nowhere...

At 2/4/12 12:02 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: And those bands you have listed, are amongs my favorite bands also. I'm happy to see someone who has similar tastes in metal join in.

Blood Red Throne is one of my all time favorites, and it's kind of sad that not many of the members of the Metal Hell highly enjoy their music. I believe they are the best active Death Metal band :)

Awesome, it's always cool to talk with someone who agrees haha. Really, not many here listen to Blood Red Throne? They're great! Although right now, Facebreaker is my death metal obsession. I just recently got Dead, Rotten, and Hungry, and while it is certainly nothing new or amazing and is really quite simple, it's one of the grooviest death metal albums I have to date, and I love to groove.

At 2/3/12 05:41 PM, AniMetal wrote: So Bill Ward is being a douchebag and has issued a public statement that he will not be part of the Black Sabbath reunion tour or album unless he's paid more money.

It's probably more than money. You do have to take in to consideration, Sharon is probably the one who had the most say in drafted the contract. Even if it is kind of shitty to Tony and the fans, I'm sure there's more to this than meets the eye. Remember, Bill was the one who wanted to reunite the band.

Either way, this is tremendously bad news to me. Ward's drumming is part of Sabbath, not hearing crazy fills after the "DUUH-DUUH" in Fairies in Boots is enough to make me cry. A Sabbath without Ward is no Sabbath at all.

At 2/4/12 12:02 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

Shakira - Whenever, Wherever

I lol'ed

Don't be hating, i've legitimately listened to more Shakira in the month of January than I have any metal bands.

Her older music was legit good spanish music, before she learned english and went from great to mediocre-but-still-fun. haha

Plus, I don't know if it's always been the same drummer or if she's had a series of drummers, but whomever plays drums for her is actually really amazing.

Anywho, I know a lot of you like Fleshgod Apocalypse, but what do you guys think of MaYan? They're technical death metal, but symphonic, as well. It's a side-project of Epica and God Dethroned.

Also, this is a list of concerts i've decided i'm attending:

Feb 10th: Biohazard / Madball
March 9th: Iced Earth / Symphony X / Warbringer
March 26th: D.R.I. / Lich King / Skull Hammer
March 30th: Paganfest Part III
April 5th: Opeth / Mastodon / Ghost
May 5th: Arch & Matheos (Only USA show)
May 19th: Meshuggah / Baroness / Decapitated
May 20th: Ulcerate / Tombs (If I meet the age restrictions, venue is TBA)
June 28th-30th: Warriors of Metal Fest and pre-party.

Also, if Alcest/Deafheaven announce a closer date to me, or if i'm presented with a free ticket to a show, i'll go to that too. Also, i'm waiting with battered breath for the upcoming Insomnium, Agalloch, Morbid Saint and Helloween/Stratovarius tours to announce dates.

What shows/fests are you guys attending in the future?

Seeing Kylesa on the 21st. Shit is gonna be amazing.

it sucks D:
everyone is seeing awesome bands except me...
i mean its not that i cant afford to go to a show or two...
its just i have no way to get there since my car gets like 5 mpg
and no one i know likes any of the bands that are playing around here that i like and would be willing to go with me because i dont really like going to stuff like that alone. id feel...weird. i cant really explain it.

i'll just kidnap Mastodon, Ghost, and Baroness and hide them in my basement and force them to play me private concerts there :D
that would be an awesome show

At 2/4/12 12:05 AM, Viper50 wrote: well i cant deny the fact that their older albums are better than the newer ones...
i cant really decide which would be my favorite though
its too hard to decide that

Only a few Dimmu Borgir albums are worth it. The first two albums they released, starting with For All Tid and the second is Stormblåst. And whatever you do, never listen to the supposedly "remastered" version of Stormblåst they released in 2005 under the name Stormblåst MMV. It's pure shit.

After these two, they released another decent record, which is Enthrone Darkness Triumphant and from this point on, it all went downhill. Their most recent releases are complete jokes. Hot Topic Commercial Teenage Wannabe-Gothic Wannabe Metal is the musical genre they are playing nowadays.

At 2/4/12 12:06 AM, Tremulos wrote: Awesome, it's always cool to talk with someone who agrees haha. Really, not many here listen to Blood Red Throne? They're great! Although right now, Facebreaker is my death metal obsession. I just recently got Dead, Rotten, and Hungry, and while it is certainly nothing new or amazing and is really quite simple, it's one of the grooviest death metal albums I have to date, and I love to groove.

I'll check out that other band you mentionned. I know some people in the Hell also like Blood Red Throne, but we rarely have big discussions on the band, their side-projects, etc. I think they are the most amazing active Death Metal band.

At 2/4/12 12:22 PM, AniMetal wrote: Don't be hating, i've legitimately listened to more Shakira in the month of January than I have any metal bands.

I'm not, but I know you thought about it before posting that :P You did that with the will of getting a reaction. Admit that :P

Her older music was legit good spanish music, before she learned english and went from great to mediocre-but-still-fun. haha

First album I've heard by her was Laundry Service... Before that I was too young to really make music researches and find music out on my own. I can't say I ever bothered digging deeper in her music, especially considering the way she evolved later on in her career.

Anywho, I know a lot of you like Fleshgod Apocalypse, but what do you guys think of MaYan? They're technical death metal, but symphonic, as well. It's a side-project of Epica and God Dethroned.

Dunno them!

Also, this is a list of concerts i've decided i'm attending:

Feb 10th: Biohazard / Madball
March 9th: Iced Earth / Symphony X / Warbringer
March 26th: D.R.I. / Lich King / Skull Hammer
March 30th: Paganfest Part III
April 5th: Opeth / Mastodon / Ghost
May 5th: Arch & Matheos (Only USA show)
May 19th: Meshuggah / Baroness / Decapitated
May 20th: Ulcerate / Tombs (If I meet the age restrictions, venue is TBA)
June 28th-30th: Warriors of Metal Fest and pre-party.

I will most likely be going to the Opeth / Mastodon / Ghost tour. I've heard good things about Ghost, and I'd really like to see Mastodon live. And Opeth is always fun, so there is nothing that should restrain me from going to that gig.

Also, if Alcest/Deafheaven announce a closer date to me, or if i'm presented with a free ticket to a show, i'll go to that too. Also, i'm waiting with battered breath for the upcoming Insomnium, Agalloch, Morbid Saint and Helloween/Stratovarius tours to announce dates.

Alcest is a must for me. And if Agalloch tours again through the US, Canada and Quebec, I will see them once again. Amazing band :)

Alcest - Autre Temps

At 2/3/12 03:53 PM, Viper50 wrote:

At 2/3/12 07:22 AM, Bahamut wrote: Baroness' albums are generally expensive at HMV. Why pay £19 when they're only £8 or so on Amazon? I shouldn't complain about CD prices too much now that I've seen how much vinyls can go for at times.

well the ones that i was looking at weren't that expensive
like $15-$20

For CDs, that's an OK price when converted to GBP. That's up to £12.50 and my limit for prices of CDs is usually £13, unless it happens to be a rare release.

and i finally got a copy of The Hunter today :D

Good album for sure.

At 2/3/12 04:30 PM, SomaGuye wrote: p.s apologies for double post.

It's excusable enough when you're talking about Baroness. :P

At 2/3/12 05:41 PM, AniMetal wrote: So much for the original lineup...

Well, Ozzy was making me cynical to begin with but this now makes me sure to not hype for the Black Sabbath reunion. Not any of the original band members should be left out.

At 2/4/12 12:22 PM, AniMetal wrote: What shows/fests are you guys attending in the future?

I have Alestorm to see next Thursday. After that, all I'm considering going to is Primordial's show in May with Hell as support act. Now that's a show that shouldn't be missed.

At 2/4/12 02:32 PM, Bahamut wrote:

At 2/3/12 03:53 PM, Viper50 wrote:

At 2/3/12 07:22 AM, Bahamut wrote: Baroness' albums are generally expensive at HMV. Why pay £19 when they're only £8 or so on Amazon? I shouldn't complain about CD prices too much now that I've seen how much vinyls can go for at times.

well the ones that i was looking at weren't that expensive
like $15-$20

For CDs, that's an OK price when converted to GBP. That's up to £12.50 and my limit for prices of CDs is usually £13, unless it happens to be a rare release.

well the next time im at the store i'll be sure to pick up a copy of it if they have any left

and i finally got a copy of The Hunter today :D

Good album for sure.

it is :D
ive listened to it pretty much all day yesterday and about 3 times today
i need to go out and get more Mastodon or something
actually i need more Metal CDs since i dont have nearly enough...

2/4/12
Lucifer's Lightbulb is now signed with Human Remains Records...hell yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
also more in the works
will keep you all posted if interested

not bad for a project that only became a reality a couple weeks ago
gonna be a long good crazy year

keep it HEAVY
peace

At 2/4/12 02:40 PM, Viper50 wrote:

it is :D
ive listened to it pretty much all day yesterday and about 3 times today
i need to go out and get more Mastodon or something
actually i need more Metal CDs since i dont have nearly enough...

You should get Remission next.

At 2/4/12 12:22 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 2/4/12 12:02 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

What shows/fests are you guys attending in the future?

Possibly Sonisphere, which so far has Metallica, Machine head, Amorphis, Ghost, and Gojira, or Tuska which has Ministry, Insomnium, Animals as leaders, Saint vitus, Overkill, Behemoth and other shit.

At 2/4/12 04:20 PM, Oliver wrote:

At 2/4/12 02:40 PM, Viper50 wrote:

it is :D
ive listened to it pretty much all day yesterday and about 3 times today
i need to go out and get more Mastodon or something
actually i need more Metal CDs since i dont have nearly enough...

You should get Remission next.

i was going to try to find either that or Crack The Skye
the next time im out and about looking for albums i'll look for em

At 2/4/12 04:10 PM, BillPatton wrote: 2/4/12
Lucifer's Lightbulb is now signed with Human Remains Records...hell yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
also more in the works
will keep you all posted if interested

not bad for a project that only became a reality a couple weeks ago
gonna be a long good crazy year

keep it HEAVY
peace

Sounds neat! Keep us up to date on your wheelings and dealings.

About upcoming gigs, I may or may not be seeing Mael Mordha in April with these guys called Darkest Era, who I've never heard of, but I guess I'll give them a listen. I've been stuck in kind of a musical rut, I've just been listening to the same stuff over and over again, without much drive to try new things.

At 2/4/12 12:22 PM, AniMetal wrote: May 5th: Arch & Matheos (Only USA show)

I fucking hate you.....

At 2/4/12 01:23 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: After these two, they released another decent record, which is Enthrone Darkness Triumphant and from this point on, it all went downhill.

I like Spiritual Black Dimensions and Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia a lot, just as much as Enthrone Darkness Triumph (those are definitely my 3 favorite DB albums). SBD has always seemed like a EDT Part 2 to me, but PEM has some really great and unique atmosphere imo, although it does have filler songs. I really enjoy the music from their earlier albums, but the weak mix subtracts from the music.

I'll check out that other band you mentionned. I know some people in the Hell also like Blood Red Throne, but we rarely have big discussions on the band, their side-projects, etc. I think they are the most amazing active Death Metal band.

Well, Facebreaker is definitely not amazing, but if you can appreciate the (imo) superior way in which they present their simplicity then maybe you will like them.

At 2/5/12 02:14 AM, Tremulos wrote:

At 2/4/12 01:23 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'll check out that other band you mentionned. I know some people in the Hell also like Blood Red Throne, but we rarely have big discussions on the band, their side-projects, etc. I think they are the most amazing active Death Metal band.

Well, Facebreaker is definitely not amazing, but if you can appreciate the (imo) superior way in which they present their simplicity then maybe you will like them.

And I would suggest Walking Dead for your first Facebreaker listen. The guitar tone, the simple riffs and drums, the way that the vocals flow with said simple riffs and drums, it all comes together into something that is more enjoyable to me than some of the more complex and technical death metal.

And yes.... they are zombie-themed........

At 2/4/12 02:40 PM, Viper50 wrote: well the next time im at the store i'll be sure to pick up a copy of it if they have any left

Any left of what?

ive listened to it pretty much all day yesterday and about 3 times today
i need to go out and get more Mastodon or something

I'm still missing Remission. I would have picked it up much sooner if I was seeing them live. I could have seen them in a few days time but friends' budgets have only allowed them to see Alestorm this month.

actually i need more Metal CDs since i dont have nearly enough...

I have over 500 from metal alone but there's still tons of stuff to get. I should get some Baroness once and for all.

At 2/4/12 12:02 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Isn't the band This Will Destroy You a Post-Rock band?

I guess but they're on the heavier side of it anyways. Well they used to be. They've mellowed out into a more ambient style now but earlier on it was clear they had influence from the metal side of music.

At 2/5/12 10:34 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 2/4/12 02:40 PM, Viper50 wrote: well the next time im at the store i'll be sure to pick up a copy of it if they have any left

Any left of what?

Blue Record

ive listened to it pretty much all day yesterday and about 3 times today
i need to go out and get more Mastodon or something

I'm still missing Remission. I would have picked it up much sooner if I was seeing them live. I could have seen them in a few days time but friends' budgets have only allowed them to see Alestorm this month.

you can get it for about...$15 or something on Relapse.com
the show red fang was playing near here was with Mastodon and The Dillinger Escape Plan, not a big fan of TDEP though...

actually i need more Metal CDs since i dont have nearly enough...

I have over 500 from metal alone but there's still tons of stuff to get. I should get some Baroness once and for all.

well i dont have the money to go out and buy a bunch of CDs and when i go looking for certain CDs i cant find them or i dont have the money to get them and whatever else i was going to get...

At 2/5/12 03:03 AM, Tremulos wrote: And I would suggest Walking Dead for your first Facebreaker listen. The guitar tone, the simple riffs and drums, the way that the vocals flow with said simple riffs and drums, it all comes together into something that is more enjoyable to me than some of the more complex and technical death metal.

Holy shit! They are so brutal and now they are one of my favorite death metal bands, the only thing I didn´t liked was that the guitar is too loud and I could not hear very well the drums.

At 2/5/12 02:14 AM, Tremulos wrote: Well, Facebreaker is definitely not amazing, but if you can appreciate the (imo) superior way in which they present their simplicity then maybe you will like them.

I guess we don't have the same definition of "amazing". I was not refering to mad technical skills amazing, but rather to amazing as in good song-writting, good sound and good riffing amazing. I don't mind if they don't sweep through scales.

At 2/5/12 03:03 AM, Tremulos wrote: And I would suggest Walking Dead for your first Facebreaker listen. The guitar tone, the simple riffs and drums, the way that the vocals flow with said simple riffs and drums, it all comes together into something that is more enjoyable to me than some of the more complex and technical death metal.

It's groovy, thrashy, heavy and simple. The simplicity of the music is most likely the key of the success of this band. It's pretty good, but I'm usually not a big fans of music that grooves like that. I can still admit they are good at what they do.

And yes.... they are zombie-themed........

How appropriate for a Death Metal band :P

At 2/5/12 12:34 PM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 2/4/12 12:02 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Isn't the band This Will Destroy You a Post-Rock band?

I guess but they're on the heavier side of it anyways. Well they used to be. They've mellowed out into a more ambient style now but earlier on it was clear they had influence from the metal side of music.

I'd say they are still a Post-Rock band, then. I thought the classification "Post-Metal" was used for bands like ISIS or Alcest (more like Post-Black Metal). But I feel there are similarities between Post-Rock and Post-Metal. I'm not sure I'm really putting my finger on what's the right definition of both genres.

Les Cowboys Fringants - La tête à Papineau

At 2/5/12 01:42 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'd say they are still a Post-Rock band, then. I thought the classification "Post-Metal" was used for bands like ISIS or Alcest (more like Post-Black Metal). But I feel there are similarities between Post-Rock and Post-Metal. I'm not sure I'm really putting my finger on what's the right definition of both genres.

All I can gather is Post Metal more frequently has vocals, and usually has more defined riffs, even so though I know there are post rock bands with vocals and bands that also use riffs a lot as opposed to pure textures, so it's not a very clear cut thing.

So, I posted a review of Holy Terror's Terror and Submission. As always, CC welcome!

As far as gigs, it seems like the only one coming to Indiana is Mayhemfest, so I might go to that again this year. Mostly going for High on Fire, Slayer, and Anthrax.

At 2/5/12 02:41 PM, SomaGuye wrote: All I can gather is Post Metal more frequently has vocals, and usually has more defined riffs, even so though I know there are post rock bands with vocals and bands that also use riffs a lot as opposed to pure textures, so it's not a very clear cut thing.

I think the word Post in both Post-Rock and Post-Metal refers to a similar evolution of both original genres, which are Rock and Metal. So both Post-Rock and Post-Metal add the same elements to their music, but they have different roots. So both genres have a lot of textures, atmosphere, progression and immersive feeling, but the roots of both genres are different.

Primus - Electric Uncle Sam