At 12/16/11 09:59 AM, Bahamut wrote: So I made a writeup for my worst 2011 metal releases. Two of them are obvious guesses, one is quite obvious while the other two are not so obvious but still some terrible releases. I'll have the best posted next week now that I have the negatives out of the way.

Amaranthe lol. A friend of mine just asked me what I thought about them.

They are hardly metal. They are a pop band but they don't know it...

At 12/16/11 01:34 PM, CoCo wrote:

At 12/16/11 06:58 AM, batman64 wrote: stuff

Point of buying music is so the artist can continue making the music that you or me or whoever like. I buy an album for the sentimental value, it actually means something. It's not just a package with a cd in it, it's more than that. It's part of your life, it's what you love.

I'm a hundred percent with you on this one. Just owning the album is a goog feeling.

If you pay a band to perform live you're paying for entertainment. To have an awesome time with the music and all the people around you. The atmosphere inside a show can be so much better than just watching a video.

True.

And this is like any other entertainment. You pay for a movie, for a book, to see a musician, to play video games.

money makes the world go around

Sadly.

At 12/16/11 05:05 PM, SomaGuye wrote: Just jizzed in my pants and bought a ticket to see mastodon in February because of the supports.

Red Fang AND Dillinger Escape Plan.

How fucking savage is that.

Mastodon are cool, so are Red Fang.

Dunno about Dilling Escape Plan... Not mah style!

I forgot to mention this. 0peth and GoryBlizzard both came by the general forum and never bothered to post here. shame.

At 12/16/11 12:20 PM, rockereaper wrote:

At 12/16/11 09:59 AM, Bahamut wrote: So I made a writeup for my worst 2011 metal releases.

I agree with the first place, the worst album i´ve heard from Morbid Angel.

To be fair, are there any other Morbid Angel albums that are this bad? :P

At 12/16/11 11:11 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 12/16/11 09:59 AM, Bahamut wrote: So I made a writeup for my worst 2011 metal releases. Two of them are obvious guesses, one is quite obvious while the other two are not so obvious but still some terrible releases. I'll have the best posted next week now that I have the negatives out of the way.

Amaranthe lol. A friend of mine just asked me what I thought about them.

They are hardly metal. They are a pop band but they don't know it...

I really don't want to throw the term pop around but this band is just asking for it. Maybe I'm too kind to be willing to give them a second chance for their next album.

I know they aren't really metal, but does anyone here like Cave In? I only just listened to them today, and I find them to be quite amazing. Hydra Head Records really has/has had a lot of good bands in their roster.

Also, New Drudkh album in 2012.. Thoughts?

At 12/16/11 10:01 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Any Suicidal Tendencies fans here?

I GOTTA GOTTA TAKE A TRIP

At 12/17/11 05:54 AM, Tobi wrote: Also, New Drudkh album in 2012.. Thoughts?

Theres always a new Drudkh album. I respect them lots lots lots and listened to Handful of Stars when it came out and digged it almost as much as the new shit. I'm sure whatever they do will be respectable, and incredibly unnoticed.

Troll have a new music video, should be on Youtube soon.

Dear god, I need some good black metal to listen to. Recs much appreciated.

At 12/17/11 11:02 AM, K2LU wrote: Dear god, I need some good black metal to listen to. Recs much appreciated.

what kind? oldschool? atmospheric? prog-ish? experimental? Well, I'll try and give you some variety.

Arcturus (early stuff is black, later is awesome avant-garde)
Borknagar
early Ulver later stuff isn't metal, but still great)
Thorns
Mayhem
Diabolical Masquerade
Mirrorthrone (melodic black/death)
Sigh (some is black, some is not, all is good)
Ihsahn
Agatus
Rotting Christ
Tartaros
Klabautamann
Darkestrah
Secrets of the Moon
Lux Occulta (only good album is the Mother and the Enemy, which is awesome)
Negura Bunget (especially Om and N Crugu Bradului)
Blut Aus Nord
Oranssi Pazuzu

I may give more later.

At 12/17/11 12:38 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 12/17/11 11:02 AM, K2LU wrote: Dear god, I need some good black metal to listen to. Recs much appreciated.

what kind? oldschool? atmospheric? prog-ish? experimental? Well, I'll try and give you some variety.

Arcturus (early stuff is black, later is awesome avant-garde)
Borknagar
early Ulver later stuff isn't metal, but still great)
Thorns
Mayhem
Diabolical Masquerade
Mirrorthrone (melodic black/death)
Sigh (some is black, some is not, all is good)
Ihsahn
Agatus
Rotting Christ
Tartaros
Klabautamann
Darkestrah
Secrets of the Moon
Lux Occulta (only good album is the Mother and the Enemy, which is awesome)
Negura Bunget (especially Om and N Crugu Bradului)
Blut Aus Nord
Oranssi Pazuzu

I may give more later.

Thank you very much. A friend of mine also recommended me some bands. Those bands being Svartidauði, Horna, Hate Forest, Branikald, Benighted In Sodom, Mare, Miserere Luminis, Fortresse and Gestapo 666. Any thoughts on those bands?

At 12/17/11 11:02 AM, K2LU wrote: Dear god, I need some good black metal to listen to.

Also Stormlord is an awesome band, is like epic black metal

At 12/17/11 12:38 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 12/17/11 11:02 AM, K2LU wrote: Dear god, I need some good black metal to listen to. Recs much appreciated.

Instead of just doing my own list and throw in twenty other names, I will just second some bands listed by Sense-Offender. Anyway, we all know what happens when we get too many recommandations at the same time...

Arcturus (early stuff is black, later is awesome avant-garde)
Borknagar

These two bands right here are pretty good. Arcturus are unique! Borknagar is somewhat folk but not the too epic one. Just folkish enough so you can feel like your in Scandinavia... oh wait...

early Ulver later stuff isn't metal, but still great)

Bergtatt is a fantastic piece of art. The first track Trollskog Faren Vild is one of my all time favorite tracks. Second album Nattens Madrigal is an iconic album for Raw Black Metal. Then you have Kveldssanger, which is an all accoustic folk album. They since moved away from the folk and black metal, but their most recent stuff is still fantastic.

Mayhem

Mayhem as a few good tracks. Not my favorite, but still an important band in the history of the genre.

Sigh (some is black, some is not, all is good)

I don't know all of their stuff, but from what I've heard, I know Hangman's Hymn is well worth it. Great album!

Ihsahn

Very good project. It's the solo project of the guitarist from the band Emperor, which is also a cool band. You could also check out the band Peccatum if you like Ihsahn, since he also took part on this project.

At 12/17/11 12:38 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Ihsahn

I only started listening to this project a few days ago after a friend showed me it. It's nothing short of amazing

At 12/16/11 10:01 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Any Suicidal Tendencies fans here?

Hell yes.

At 12/17/11 02:26 PM, K2LU wrote: Any thoughts on those bands?

I've heard of Horna. Hate Forest, Miserere Luminis, Fortresse, and Gestapo 666, but I've never listened to any of them. I've been meaning to check out Fortresse and Miserere Luminis, though, since Duff has been talking about them and he has good taste. Also, I suspect at least one of the members of Hate Forest is national socialist, but I could be wrong. That's why I've never given them a chance. At least one of them is in Drudkh, and some people, including Ponos, insist that none of them are ns, but I still suspect it. I dunno. Drudkh makes very good music, though.

I have a few more recs, by the way.

Manes (their only metal album is Unter Ein Blodraud Maane, but Vilosophe is also good)
Varathron
Fleurety

At 12/17/11 03:56 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: You could also check out the band Peccatum if you like Ihsahn, since he also took part on this project.

seconded, especially the Moribund People and Lost in Reverie.

At 12/16/11 10:01 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Any Suicidal Tendencies fans here?

I have this movie on VHS, though I've only watched it once, maybe twice. It's called to Live and Die in L.A.

At 12/17/11 02:26 PM, K2LU wrote: Thank you very much. A friend of mine also recommended me some bands. Those bands being Svartidauði, Horna, Hate Forest, Branikald, Benighted In Sodom, Mare, Miserere Luminis, Fortresse and Gestapo 666. Any thoughts on those bands?

Horna and Beherit are the Finnish sound.
Miserere Luminis is one of the best current projects from Canada.
Fortresse is another band worth listening to from Canada.
Not the hugest fan of Benighted in Sodom.
Hate Forest and Gestapo 666 are acquired tastes but I like them.

At 12/17/11 02:26 PM, K2LU wrote: Thank you very much. A friend of mine also recommended me some bands. Those bands being Svartidauði, Horna, Hate Forest, Branikald, Benighted In Sodom, Mare, Miserere Luminis, Fortresse and Gestapo 666. Any thoughts on those bands?

Miserere Luminis is a side-project of two bands or you could call it a supergroup... whatever. Musicians from both Gris and Sombre Forets worked on that project. So if you like Miserere Luminis, you should check out the two other bands as well. Gris is mind-blowing. Their music is so emotional, sad it will attack your soul. Being able to understand french is also a plus to really understand their work as a whole. Don't let the language barrier be a reason to avoid them though. Their music speaks for itself, speaking french is a plus when listenning to them, but they know how to put some emotion in their music.

Forteresse are also a band from Quebec. Their first album Métal Noir Québécois is a Black Metal masterpiece, IMO. Their second album isn't as good, so starting with the first is a must. If you like them, maybe you will also like Chasse-Galerie and Monarque.

At 12/17/11 10:14 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 12/17/11 02:26 PM, K2LU wrote: Any thoughts on those bands?

I've been meaning to check out Fortresse and Miserere Luminis, though, since Duff has been talking about them and he has good taste.

I'm flattered.

At 12/17/11 03:56 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: You could also check out the band Peccatum if you like Ihsahn, since he also took part on this project.

seconded, especially the Moribund People and Lost in Reverie.

Reminds me that I've only heard Lost In Reverie.

At 12/17/11 10:25 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Miserere Luminis is one of the best current projects from Canada.
Fortresse is another band worth listening to from Canada.

I'm going to be a bitch and insist that they are from the province of Quebec, especially Forteresse. Since they are a quebecian nationalist band, they would also insist on the fact that they are from Quebec.

We do have a distinct culture here in Quebec and you will find that even our Black Metal isn't the same as the Canadian Black Metal.

Ulver - Soelen Gaaer Bag Aase Ned

also, the Covenant/Kovenant album, Nexus Polaris.

And did you guys know that Arcturus is back together? I was excited to find out at first, but then I saw that it's with Vortex and not Garm. I should have assumed that. Well, if they make an album, maybe it will actually be great. I've never heard all of Sideshow Symphonies, but the general consensus seems to be that it's mediocre at best. I might check out some songs on Youtube. I mean Vortex did a great job on the song, Chaos Path. That's actually my favorite song from la Masquerade Infernale.

At 12/17/11 10:41 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Reminds me that I've only heard Lost In Reverie.

Dude, the title track from the Moribund People is probably their best song ever.

check it

Thank you all for the suggestions. It seems I've got quite a busy Christmas ahead of me, which is a good thing. I do feel I should give Black Metal as a genre a listen as I feel almost obligated as I am a Norwegian metal head. Though there are many foreign BM bands as well. I did give Peste Noire a listen, particularly their newest album. I did quite like a few songs on there, even though I can't understand the lyrics. My previously mentioned friend did try to Google Translate all of the lyrics, and as I understand it, it's a criticism of modern day France.

At 12/18/11 01:10 AM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 12/17/11 10:41 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Reminds me that I've only heard Lost In Reverie.

Dude, the title track from the Moribund People is probably their best song ever.

check it

You don't need to tell me dude, I will definitely look into their other stuff. I guess I really just forgot because I have too many stuff to listen to :)

At 12/18/11 01:17 AM, K2LU wrote: Thank you all for the suggestions. It seems I've got quite a busy Christmas ahead of me, which is a good thing. I do feel I should give Black Metal as a genre a listen as I feel almost obligated as I am a Norwegian metal head. Though there are many foreign BM bands as well. I did give Peste Noire a listen, particularly their newest album. I did quite like a few songs on there, even though I can't understand the lyrics. My previously mentioned friend did try to Google Translate all of the lyrics, and as I understand it, it's a criticism of modern day France.

I suggest you don't dig too much into the lyrics and twisted mind of Famine from Peste Noir. This son of a bitch is one crazy right wing extremist.

But if you need help with translation, I can still provide some kind of help. I speak french, remember?

At 12/18/11 01:35 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I suggest you don't dig too much into the lyrics and twisted mind of Famine from Peste Noir. This son of a bitch is one crazy right wing extremist.

So I've heard.

But if you need help with translation, I can still provide some kind of help. I speak french, remember?

And yes, I do remember. Thank you.

At 12/18/11 01:17 AM, K2LU wrote: Thank you all for the suggestions. It seems I've got quite a busy Christmas ahead of me, which is a good thing. I do feel I should give Black Metal as a genre a listen as I feel almost obligated as I am a Norwegian metal head.

I feel I'll go on a spree as well. Enslaved was one band I had to cut short from my Christmas wishlist so I have after Christmas to consider getting some of their stuff. Then again, with sales to consider, not even I know what I'll be getting from this spending spree.

At 12/18/11 07:16 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 12/18/11 01:17 AM, K2LU wrote: Thank you all for the suggestions. It seems I've got quite a busy Christmas ahead of me, which is a good thing. I do feel I should give Black Metal as a genre a listen as I feel almost obligated as I am a Norwegian metal head.

I feel I'll go on a spree as well. Enslaved was one band I had to cut short from my Christmas wishlist so I have after Christmas to consider getting some of their stuff. Then again, with sales to consider, not even I know what I'll be getting from this spending spree.

My family always refuses to buy me CDs for Christmas. It seems like they're happier giving me something I'm probably not going to like.

With all this talk of black metal, I feel obligated to listen to some of these bands thrown around. But I've sort of....outgrown? I guess that's the right word. Anyway, I feel like I've sort of outgrown it. There are only a few black metal bands I still enjoy listening to, and only two that I listen to consistently. I feel like the genre as a whole has kind of stagnated. I haven't many new or exciting bands come out of black metal, and the bands that do constantly do interesting things have been around for a while (i.e. Sigh and Enslaved). Does anyone else feel this way?

At 12/18/11 01:17 AM, K2LU wrote: I did quite like a few songs on there, even though I can't understand the lyrics.

meh. I listen to a lot of music that has foreign language lyrics. I even sometimes have a hard time understanding the lyrics in English language bands.

At 12/18/11 09:52 AM, Zodir wrote: Does anyone else feel this way?

nope. You just have to find the right bands. There's a lot of generic bullshit, but there's good stuff as well.

Damnit.I'mfuckingtorn.

At 12/18/11 12:55 PM, Rummy0 wrote: Oh Pelle... <3

Never saw that before... A fangirl of Dead from Mayhem, making montages with emotive music to show her love for him. Damn...

I also read that she wants to kill herself in 2015 when she will have lived the same amount of days as him. Damn... This is the Deadmania !!!

Making me think, I'd like to get my hands on that studio record they did with Dead in 1990. If anyone can find these for me, that would be highly appreciated.

At 12/18/11 09:52 AM, Zodir wrote: With all this talk of black metal, I feel obligated to listen to some of these bands thrown around. But I've sort of....outgrown? I guess that's the right word. Anyway, I feel like I've sort of outgrown it. There are only a few black metal bands I still enjoy listening to, and only two that I listen to consistently. I feel like the genre as a whole has kind of stagnated. I haven't many new or exciting bands come out of black metal, and the bands that do constantly do interesting things have been around for a while (i.e. Sigh and Enslaved). Does anyone else feel this way?

I just found this band yesterday. I didn't listen to much of what they do or did. But from what I've heard, it's kind of cool. The band is called Lifelover, it's a kind of mix of Black Metal and Depressive Rock. You might like it.

At 12/18/11 05:01 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I just found this band yesterday. I didn't listen to much of what they do or did. But from what I've heard, it's kind of cool. The band is called Lifelover, it's a kind of mix of Black Metal and Depressive Rock. You might like it.

Lifelover is my ex-boyfriend's favorite band. As I understand it, they just split up this fall due to one of the members passing away. I never could get into them anyway.

At 12/18/11 05:17 PM, K2LU wrote:

At 12/18/11 05:01 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I just found this band yesterday. I didn't listen to much of what they do or did. But from what I've heard, it's kind of cool. The band is called Lifelover, it's a kind of mix of Black Metal and Depressive Rock. You might like it.

Lifelover is my ex-boyfriend's favorite band. As I understand it, they just split up this fall due to one of the members passing away. I never could get into them anyway.

I really like how your post sounds... "One of the members passed away, so they split up. I really don't care he died though, I don't like their music."

I know you didn't say that, but the way you wrote your sentence makes it sound like that :P

Running Wild are second to last!

Only one more to post and I'll leave it with a hint. The album cover has a wintery feel to it.

At 12/18/11 07:24 AM, K2LU wrote: My family always refuses to buy me CDs for Christmas. It seems like they're happier giving me something I'm probably not going to like.

I wish I could donate my happiness to you. I could go without any presents for one Christmas but others want to know what I want so I give them a list. :P Seeing my two year old cousin's enjoyment for Christmas should be more than good.

At 12/19/11 01:44 PM, Bahamut wrote: Running Wild are second to last!

Only one more to post and I'll leave it with a hint. The album cover has a wintery feel to it.

King of the Nordic Twilight?

Oh wait, that hasn't a "wintery feel" to it, it creates a fucking "hell freezes over" atmopshere!

At 12/19/11 01:44 PM, Bahamut wrote: Running Wild are second to last!

Only one more to post and I'll leave it with a hint. The album cover has a wintery feel to it.

I don´t know...it´s Ensiferum - From Afar.It has a wintery feeling