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Response to Metal Hell 2011-10-27 07:10:00


At 10/26/11 03:34 PM, batman64 wrote: Bahamut Bro...Riot kick ass..glad you finally discovered them. Good band that I enjoyed a lot when I was younger and still find enjoyable.

I'll have to ask to get one of their CDs for Christmas. I'll check in the shops this weekend to see if they happen to have them in stock.

2012..gonna be a great year for Metal and music in general...fuck the end of the world bullshit..me and my witch friends, artists, musicians, fans etc. gonna make sure it does not end and in fact become a new beginning. Shit is going down.

Some bands may be taking their leave in 2012 but we're getting a few back. Running Wild and quite possibly Black Sabbath with Ozzy Osbourne.

At 10/27/11 12:03 AM, smeagol1 wrote: Just got my Tyr - The Lay Of Thrym cd. TIS THE SHIT!!!

It is a good album. Not as good as the previous, though but at least this one has Shadow of the Swastika.

You can shove the sins of the your father where no light may pass and kiss my Scandinavian ass!

Response to Metal Hell 2011-10-28 17:42:45


At 10/25/11 09:49 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 10/25/11 07:43 PM, TheSporkLord wrote:
So because the rhythm is the same it doesn't count? I really don't understand how you analyze your music. If you play the same rhythm but on another chord, it's still different. No matter how hard you try to proove it's not.

Right, but there is no real dynamic, I don't mind straight 16th notes, but when they're all the same basic chord shape its annoying. Like classical piano pieces, a lot of times they were just straight 16th notes, but they didn't just play the same three notes over and over again.

Keys come in, okay, Again still no difference in chords.
, but other instruments will add some variety in the mix. So yeah, the riff is repeated over and over again, but you can't say you are listenning to the exact same thing for a whole 2 or 3 minutes because it's simply not true.

Yes, it is. if the keys had stayed in or something along those lines then maybe not, but just dropping random instruments in doesn't really change anything major.

If you want to get super technical then yes, you're right. It changes the second they played a different note.


I'm sorry to dissapoint you, but Mayhem and Emperor are not Atmospheric Black Metal bands...

Yes, they are. Mayhem of course having an evil atmosphere.


So from the links you have shared, I can tell Unholy Matrimony is not an Atmospheric Black Metal band.

How so?

And em... Abaroth neither... And em... well... there is no Atmospheric Black Metal in what you listed.

Why?

But Unholy Matrimony is pretty good. Thanks :)

Check out his other projects Weeping birth and mirrorthrone as well.


There really isn't any argument in what you just wrote. You have to bring some kind of support to your words.

And I will soon. I just wish I could figure out how to hook up my god damn electric guitar for recording. I suppose I record on my phone for that " tr00 " black metal feel.


I say you don't like Atmospheric Black Metal than.

Not at all. I love atmospheric black metal, I just like the ones that try.

And with your last statement you are not just attacking Atmospheric Black Metal, but countless other genres like Drone Doom, Ambient, some Post-Rock and even some Classical music. And I really don't care if you don't like repetitive stuff. I'm fine with that. But you have to understand that this genre serves a purpose. Who said there shouldn't be any repetitive music? Right now you are rejecting as intelligent music fans a big amount of people who like this particular element in their music. You completely reject repetitive song-structures as a valid musical trait. By the way... sorry if this last part sounds kind of weird. I'm doing my best to translate my words to English.

As I've said, atmospheric music doesn't have to be simple and repetitive, it's not the purpose of the whole genre.


I do like Alcest better than WITTR, but just for the sake of the argument... I hear changes in the dynamic and rhythm, just not often.

About a minute of acoustic followed by distortion. Which is then repeated in that order. Not a bad idea, but they could have actually bothered to change the acoustic/ distorted bits.


But it's not shitty music!

Sorry, shitty song writing.

This kind of music just couldn't not exist. It serves a purpose. Some people like repetitive elements in music for it creates a particular ambiance, a numbing effect or a relaxing effect. Bands like Agalloch or Wolves In The Throne Room and others will work on creating an ambiance that reminds of nature, forests, mountains. Yeah, I know that most BM bands, even the non-atmospheric ones also do it, but they do it differently. Based on repetition or slow-progression or long tracks, they try to immerse you completely into their music and the theme. When I listen to WITTR I think silent forest, pine trees, gray sky, solitude, despair.

Well first, ABM does not HAVE to be simple like WITR or the others. And I imagine the only reason you think of those things is because of the fact that you actually know about the band. Would you still be thinking about those if you didn't know what they were all about?


It's not the same kind of atmospheric we are talking about here.

Wha? Atmosphere is atmosphere.

This should close the debate. Well, I hope.

So in essence, he's saying, they have atmosphere but they're not atmospheric. That makes sense.

Damn, I hate to have to translate my thoughts in English all the time :P

It's good practice I'd imagine.

Zodir said it right: "...you just don't like the whole concept of the genre." You have to come up with something else. And I don't want you to try and demonstrate that the whole genre sucks. Like I previously said, this music serves a purpose. The elements of the genre you diss and qualify as "bad" are actually enjoyed by a lot of people.

No I'm not saying the whole genre sucks, it just annoys me when people think that atmospheric music can only be slow and repetitive, its not true, ABM encompasses all atmospheres, which is why I say that there are bands that can get awesome atmosphere whilst still making damn unique music. It's more than possible to write calm/relaxing music whilst not dumbing everything down. Which is again, what annoys me.

I'll end this by saying I'm not a hundred percent against you on this Spork. It's pretty rare that I hear a very good atmospheric black metal track. I myself, have digged around the genre and was pretty dissapointed by most artists I found. And even the few bands I do like don't have that many great tracks. When they properly do it though, they write very enjoyable material.

Know any post balck metal/ atmospheric bands that don't sound like agalloch or alcest?

Also, I believe one of the guys in alcest has some other project called Lantlos, they recently released a new album I believe. Might want to check it out.

And holy balls I have characters left. This is new.

And finally, I've been neglecting to say I saw decrepit birth over the weekend, never really listened to their music so I can't say what they played, but they sounded pretty good. I got up on stage and started headspinning with the vocalist and bassist. I got thrown out after that, but I just walked back in.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-10-28 19:02:03


Hey, Bill.

Check out Klabautamann. And have you listened to Agalloch? They're great.

Also, I'm enjoying a Forest of Stars, thanks to Bruce.

And I just checked out a band called Baring Teeth, which ain't bad.

At 10/26/11 11:50 PM, PenisClown wrote: Also I came here to say that Zebulon Pike - The Deafening Twilight = best

hell yeah. I have that, And Blood Was Passion, and I used to have Intransience. I miss that one. I've been meaning to get Space is the Corpse of Time.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-10-28 20:33:09


At 10/28/11 07:02 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Hey, Bill.

Check out Klabautamann.

I've heard about this band. any particular albums or whatnot?


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-10-29 08:55:38


At 10/28/11 08:33 PM, TheSporkLord wrote:
I've heard about this band. any particular albums or whatnot?

I only have Merkur, and it's awesome. I want to get another one of their albums at some point.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-10-29 14:14:03


At 10/29/11 08:55 AM, Sense-Offender wrote:
At 10/28/11 08:33 PM, TheSporkLord wrote:
I've heard about this band. any particular albums or whatnot?
I only have Merkur, and it's awesome. I want to get another one of their albums at some point.

I'll check it out, in the mean time, some of you may wan to check out Spawn of possession if you haven't already. I think its some good tech death, but some people have called them other stuff... I don't know.

Duff, you might like them.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-10-29 23:06:00


At 10/29/11 02:14 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: I'll check it out, in the mean time, some of you may wan to check out Spawn of possession if you haven't already. I think its some good tech death, but some people have called them other stuff... I don't know.

Duff, you might like them.

If you dig SoP then you might like Arkaik.
Arkaik- Malignant Ignorance


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-10-30 09:17:09


It's been a bit slow here over the last few days. This week I got ahold of the new Hammers of Misfortune album. As much as I enjoy the tracks in and out, I can't help but think something is missing to it. One minor gripe I have is the downplay for the female vocals. For the most part they're only backing vocals. Makes me wonder what happened to songs like The Trial and the Grave, The Witches' Dance and Famine's Lamp. Despite that, 17th Street is still one of the best releases for metal in 2011.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-10-31 08:28:49


At 10/31/11 06:45 AM, batman64 wrote: Happy Halloween.

Indeed. This week's choice for MMT is predictable but I've featured Helloween. The band choice may be predictable but is the song choice? Spoiler: It's from Chameleon...

Of course, I'm listening to them now but I'll freshen up Halloween a bit with some King Diamond.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-10-31 18:15:47


You know what grinds my gears? When people give an album a 0% review and say good things about it. Like, I'm reading a review for the new Machine Head album, and the guy gives it 0%, but he says he thinks the solos were good. What's up with that?


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-10-31 18:24:16


At 10/31/11 06:15 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: You know what grinds my gears? When people give an album a 0% review and say good things about it.

Sounds like Metal-Archives to me. It's happened before *cough*UltraBoris*cough* and I suppose it'll happen again. It may be dumb and while I read that particular review, I didn't mind it that much.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-10-31 19:41:00


At 10/26/11 03:34 PM, batman64 wrote: Hail friends In Metal
Just popping in briefly to say Hi and talk about a couple things.

lol, briefly.

Duff my man...it may surprise you to learn what you have done for me.

Maybe :O

I am now a MAJOR fan of atmospheric Black Metal and am currently friends with around a few hundred or more bands that fall in that category on myspace.

Well, that's absolutely great :) Knowing that someone is really enjoying a genre I introduced him to, is one of the most comforting thought to me.

I have also recently become aware that most of the bands I meet are really not what they first appear to be. At first glance a lot of the bands look or seem real evil or something..yet I have found that most of them are in fact VERY nice people with varied taste in music and things as well.
People and artists are just people like everyone else..who would have thought or known that a few BM artists and bands get into Jazz, blues, or even some psychedelic or prog. Way cool finding all this out.

Every musical genre has it's own stereotypes. Some people fit the stereotype and others don't. Usually, Black Metal fans are very open-minded when it comes to music. The people we often think about when talking about Black Metal fans are usually the elitist ones who listen to only the darkest, most underground lo-fi and raw black metal of the scene. These people do exist, but I highly doubt they form the majority of the bm community.

I mentioned briefly about how sometimes one may not hear all the buried sounds inside some music. what I meant was like in that Alcest track I mentioned. At first listen one hears a wall of sound due to the distortion(Intentional or due to recording technique). when I first heard it all I basically heard was distortion, guitar, drums and vocals. Was about to give up til Duff mentioned the bassline which at first I did not hear. When I listened for the bass and other things I found myself going through the wall of sound and finding what was under it and contributing to it. Therein I found the true music and sounds comprising the whole., which was and is some pretty damn good music.
That is what I meant by finding the layers within the supposedly simple sounding song.

Alcest's first album really was an hard one to analyze though. The production quality makes it even harder than on other lo-fi black metal albums to really distinguish all the instruments from one another. But hey, if you managed to do it and if you enjoy the music, maybe the production is just good as it is, right?

Currently promoting my brother's work in Alehammer, my own work with Death Squad, as well as beginning work with Coldnight( She wants to talk with me in length on MSN or yahoo I guess now..way cool) also meeting a lot of bands and labels too, like Salt and some other artists you may not have heard yet. Unknown and very well known getting mixed together in the mix of things. Things are way cool...and it does look like I will have a record Label within the next year as well as other things. Also working on youtube as well promoting bands and have a few vid projects in the works.

Anywhere we can hear that music?

That is not including working with my sons on a few musical projects as well....next year is gonna be huge.

I wish you the best luck, Bill :)

At 10/28/11 05:42 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Right, but there is no real dynamic, I don't mind straight 16th notes, but when they're all the same basic chord shape its annoying. Like classical piano pieces, a lot of times they were just straight 16th notes, but they didn't just play the same three notes over and over again.

From this point on, I really can't argue with you over this. I'm not going to try to proove you that there is much dynamic to Wolves In The Throne Room's music. First because I don't know their work enough, and second... because I really doubt that they actually tried to write dynamic music. It is meant to be simple, repetitive, mind-numbing, slow and atmospheric. If you don't like it, that's fine with me.

Yes, they are. Mayhem of course having an evil atmosphere.

They have an atmosphere, of course. But that's not the point. Every music as a particular atmoshpere to it. What we mean by Atmospheric Black Metal is something different. The main focus of the music in Atmospheric Black Metal is the Atmosphere. Usually the atmosphere is created by depressing, slow, repetitive elements. They will make an extensive use of keyboards to give their music this "atmospheric" feel. Atmospheric Black Metal is often closer to genres like Ambient, Dark Ambient and some Drone like The Black One by Sunn O))) or the album Altar by Sunn O))) & Boris... then it is close to other Black Metal acts or Thrash Metal.

And I will soon. I just wish I could figure out how to hook up my god damn electric guitar for recording. I suppose I record on my phone for that " tr00 " black metal feel.

That'd be great :)

Well first, ABM does not HAVE to be simple like WITR or the others. And I imagine the only reason you think of those things is because of the fact that you actually know about the band. Would you still be thinking about those if you didn't know what they were all about?

I'm not sure I get what you mean by that. But yes, I think people would still try to find music with slow progression and repetitive parts. See, you don't listen to these bands like you listen to other Black Metal bands. If you do that, I'm a hundred percent with you... you are going to get bored realy fast.

So in essence, he's saying, they have atmosphere but they're not atmospheric. That makes sense.

So Melodic Death Metal is the only Death Metal with melodic elements? Depressive Black Metal is the only Metal genre that is depressing?

Like I said above, that's not the point. It was not named Atmospheric Black Metal to point out that other BM bands don't have any atmosphere to their music.

No I'm not saying the whole genre sucks, it just annoys me when people think that atmospheric music can only be slow and repetitive, its not true, ABM encompasses all atmospheres, which is why I say that there are bands that can get awesome atmosphere whilst still making damn unique music. It's more than possible to write calm/relaxing music whilst not dumbing everything down. Which is again, what annoys me.

True :)

Know any post balck metal/ atmospheric bands that don't sound like agalloch or alcest?

In Post-Black Metal I have Ihsahn, but it cannot be classified as Atmospheric, at least not with the definition I gave you. Then we have Sigh, which is a band with a great atmosphere, but not an Atmospheric Black Metal band (still if using the definition I gave you of ABM).

Then I have Fen, which is an Atmospheric Black Metal/Post-Rock band.

I have Arcturus, which is an Avant-Gard/Black Metal band. Somewhat atmospheric, I suppose.

I previously suggested the band Chaos Moon, which is somewhat closer to what you could categorize as ABM.

Forteresse, the band from Quebec.

Gris, another band from Quebec. They make Depressive Black Metal. But sometimes Depressive and Atmospheric Black Metal are kind of close. The delimitation between both sub-genres really isn't obvious.

Neige Et Noirceur, another one from Quebec. This band stands somewhere between Dark Ambient and Atmospheric Black Metal, if my memories are right. I didn't listen to their music recently and I really can't remember right now.

Also, I believe one of the guys in alcest has some other project called Lantlos, they recently released a new album I believe. Might want to check it out.

Ok

And finally, I've been neglecting to say I saw decrepit birth over the weekend, never really listened to their music so I can't say what they played, but they sounded pretty good. I got up on stage and started headspinning with the vocalist and bassist. I got thrown out after that, but I just walked back in.

They are pretty decent I suppose. I don't know them much either. But I remember listenning to them sometime last year.

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At 10/29/11 02:14 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: I'll check it out, in the mean time, some of you may wan to check out Spawn of possession if you haven't already. I think its some good tech death, but some people have called them other stuff... I don't know.

Duff, you might like them.

They make Technical Death Metal. It is very melodic though, for Tech Death I mean. I know them already, their bassist is also in Blood Red Throne, which is the reason why I tried Spawn Of Possession in the first place. Erlend Caspersen is one of the greatest Bassists in Metal :)

At 10/29/11 11:06 PM, Anti-pie wrote: If you dig SoP then you might like Arkaik.
Arkaik- Malignant Ignorance

Them, I don't know. Will check them out :)

At 10/31/11 06:24 PM, Bahamut wrote:
At 10/31/11 06:15 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: You know what grinds my gears? When people give an album a 0% review and say good things about it.
Sounds like Metal-Archives to me. It's happened before *cough*UltraBoris*cough* and I suppose it'll happen again. It may be dumb and while I read that particular review, I didn't mind it that much.

I have a friend who was complainning about him the other day.

Giving a 0% review is kind of dumb anyway. I usually tend to just skip the 0% reviews. I always have the feeling that they are uninterresting and completely negative. I like to read a review written by someone who actually tries to give the pros and the cons of the album. If you end up giving the album an 8% or a 10%, than that's fine. If you really think the album was horrible, it's fine.

When you see a 0% on top of a review you expect it to be a full review of negative views on the album. Which is logical... since the score is 0. But sometimes the reviewer talks about the positive aspects of the album... Isn't that a beautiful contradiction?

Bottom line, I think that reviewers who give out 0's are just asking to be over-looked... it's stupid to do such a thing, and it damages the average of the album beyond belief :P If the album had a 85% average with three reviews, if someone drops a 0% review, the average score will drop to 63,75%.

That's it folks !!!

Oh wait !

Look at my little Halloween surprise. It just came in today in the mail

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At 10/31/11 08:03 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
Oh wait !

Look at my little Halloween surprise. It just came in today in the mail

Dammit I had never hear Blotted Science but when i saw the image of the album, i became curious how they play....and they play great.
My favorite song was Laser Lobotomy from ¨The Machinations Of Dementia¨ \m/


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At 10/31/11 10:38 PM, rockereaper wrote: Dammit I had never hear Blotted Science but when i saw the image of the album, i became curious how they play....and they play great.
My favorite song was Laser Lobotomy from ¨The Machinations Of Dementia¨ \m/

I'm quite happy that now, after 5 years, we have ton specify which album by Blotted Science we are talking about.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-11-01 03:13:13


Just got back from Gwar on Halloween. There was also ghoul and everytime I die there. Pretty awesome night.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-11-01 08:41:58


At 10/31/11 11:44 PM, batman64 wrote: Coldnight

I like it! I like it a lot!


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-11-01 09:05:36


At 10/31/11 08:03 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Giving a 0% review is kind of dumb anyway. I usually tend to just skip the 0% reviews. I always have the feeling that they are uninterresting and completely negative. I like to read a review written by someone who actually tries to give the pros and the cons of the album. If you end up giving the album an 8% or a 10%, than that's fine. If you really think the album was horrible, it's fine.

This is why I much prefer having a star rating scale than 0-100%. Rating an album something like 3.5/5 is more straight forward.

When you see a 0% on top of a review you expect it to be a full review of negative views on the album. Which is logical... since the score is 0. But sometimes the reviewer talks about the positive aspects of the album... Isn't that a beautiful contradiction?

This is why I didn't end up giving Stratovarius S/T 0%. I realised there were a few decent parts but nothing to save the album from suckiness.

Look at my little Halloween surprise. It just came in today in the mail

Nice one! I have listened to it already but I still need it on CD. It's meant to come out in Europe later this month. Dammit, that's when Christmas shopping will be going on.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-11-01 16:04:53


I'm glad you're digging Agalloch, Bill. I'm listening to your sister's stuff right now. Have you checked out Klabautamann? Merkur is one of my favorite albums ever. It never gets boring.

Also, I agree that Spawn of Possession is tits. That Arkaik track was okay, but not quite my kind of death metal.

Speaking of Alcest, I've still not heard any of their stuff other than Souvenirs something something. That's a really nice album. It's the only music I know of that's labelled as shoegaze.

I'm still really liking a Forest of Stars. Thanks for that recommendation, Bruce.

I didn't do anything for Halloween. I spent the morning and earlier part of the afternoon trying to sleep and that didn't work out. Then a friend of mine came by and we went to his house to smoke some of my bud and play Call of Duty. Then I started falling asleep, so I went home stoned as shit and finally got some sleep. I woke up at 11 something, had some shots, and watched a Halloween appropriate anime called Hundred Stories. That show is awesome.


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So I got Megadeth's Thirteen today. Been listening to it, and it is pretty kickass. Quite enjoyable. Not as good as Endgame, but a solid album nontheless. At the moment 4/5.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-11-01 19:26:01


Just dropping by to make some promotion for the band Mouth Of The Architect.

Their music includes elements from various genres. Sludge, Atmospheric Metal and Post-Rock, just to name a few.

I love it so far, and the album cover of their latest album named Quietly, is pretty sexy.

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At 11/1/11 02:50 PM, batman64 wrote:
At 11/1/11 03:13 AM, Anti-pie wrote: Just got back from Gwar on Halloween. There was also ghoul and everytime I die there. Pretty awesome night.
I have a 50/50 shot at seeing this same line up tomorrow night.
Getting some cash tomorrow but have bills as well...see what happens.
Seen GWAR's first 5 shows in Minneapolis...still waiting on 6 lol.
Main thing I wanna know is How are Ghoul and Everytime I Die?
Have not really had the time to check em out yet with other things so I am curious as to what and how they played.

Ghoul was awesome last night. Had a giant robot come out and then fight some kinda caveman thing. Every Time I Die wasn't to bad I kinda liked them.... although they were only wearing speedos on stage...


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I guess I'll mention Morgul now, I don't really want to say they're atmospheric, but I don't want to say they're not either. I'd call them more experimental/ avante garde. I think their album The horror grandeur is solid. Definitely have a unique sound. Listening to Pardoy of the mass right now and its also sounding pretty good.

Didn't do much for halloween, just passed out candy to what few kids came by, and even then half of them didn't even say trick or treat, little bastards.

Also, translating latin sucks donkey bawls.

At 10/31/11 07:41 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 10/28/11 05:42 PM, TheSporkLord wrote:

If you don't like it, that's fine with me.

Right, I'm sure they probably are doing it on purpose, if anything I think they should be closer to trance. I really can't think of any other ways to make trance except being really repetitive.

They have an atmosphere, of course. But that's not the point.

Well I believe that is quite the whole point of ABM. To be a black metal band. And to be atmospheric.

Every music as a particular atmoshpere to it. What we mean by Atmospheric Black Metal is something different. The main focus of the music in Atmospheric Black Metal is the Atmosphere. Usually the atmosphere is created by depressing, slow, repetitive elements.

I'm sure some bands do this, but as I've said that's not the only way to do it. You can still have atmosphere by playing fast non repetitive parts.

They will make an extensive use of keyboards to give their music this "atmospheric" feel. Atmospheric Black Metal is often closer to genres like Ambient, Dark Ambient and some Drone like The Black One by Sunn O))) or the album Altar by Sunn O))) & Boris... then it is close to other Black Metal acts or Thrash Metal.

I don't think keyboards are a necessity for atmosphere. I personally think it sounds better when just coming from the guitars, drums and such, a lot of times I feel the keys are just really cheesy.

That'd be great :)

Indeed, I really want to make some riffy black metal.


I'm not sure I get what you mean by that. But yes, I think people would still try to find music with slow progression and repetitive parts. See, you don't listen to these bands like you listen to other Black Metal bands. If you do that, I'm a hundred percent with you... you are going to get bored realy fast.

Well I don't think anyone should go into an ABM song expecting it to be slow and repetitive.

So Melodic Death Metal is the only Death Metal with melodic elements? Depressive Black Metal is the only Metal genre that is depressing?

I didn't say that at all, like melodeath for example, there are bands that aren't labeled as melodeath and yet are still just as melodic. This is what I'm saying about mayhem, they're not labeled as ABM but that doesn't mean they're not...atmospheric black metal. Or black metal that is atmospheric. Kinda my whole point, that all you need to be an ABM band is 1) TO be black metal and 2) to be atmospheric.


Know any post balck metal/ atmospheric bands that don't sound like agalloch or alcest?
In Post-Black Metal I have Ihsahn, but it cannot be classified as Atmospheric, at least not with the definition I gave you. Then we have Sigh, which is a band with a great atmosphere, but not an Atmospheric Black Metal band (still if using the definition I gave you of ABM).

Then I have Fen, which is an Atmospheric Black Metal/Post-Rock band.

I have Arcturus, which is an Avant-Gard/Black Metal band. Somewhat atmospheric, I suppose.

I previously suggested the band Chaos Moon, which is somewhat closer to what you could categorize as ABM.

Forteresse, the band from Quebec.

Gris, another band from Quebec. They make Depressive Black Metal. But sometimes Depressive and Atmospheric Black Metal are kind of close. The delimitation between both sub-genres really isn't obvious.

Neige Et Noirceur, another one from Quebec. This band stands somewhere between Dark Ambient and Atmospheric Black Metal, if my memories are right. I didn't listen to their music recently and I really can't remember right now.

I will listen to these, thanks.


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At 11/2/11 05:18 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Also, translating latin sucks donkey bawls.

Amen to that. I still can't wrap my head around not reading from left to right. And that really fucks up the translations. DAMN YOU LATIN AND YOUR STRANGE SENTENCE STRUCTURE!!!!

Also, for a creative writing class I'm taking, I need to write a poem based on an instrumental piece of music. I'm thinking of Odal by Agalloch or Dancing Mad by Nobuo Uematsu. Do you guys have any other suggestions?


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Im so glad to see an Active metal topic on Newgrounds...........


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At 11/1/11 04:04 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I'm still really liking a Forest of Stars. Thanks for that recommendation, Bruce.

Cheers bra. Pretty good for limey black metal.

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At 11/2/11 06:37 PM, Sepultura123 wrote: Im so glad to see an Active metal topic on Newgrounds...........

More like a Club/Crew than a topic... And we are the most active and prolific one on Newgrounds :) We rule !!!

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At 11/1/11 07:26 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Just dropping by to make some promotion for the band Mouth Of The Architect.

Their music includes elements from various genres. Sludge, Atmospheric Metal and Post-Rock, just to name a few.

I love it so far, and the album cover of their latest album named Quietly, is pretty sexy.

Yeah I know the guys.

Another similar band who put out a new release recently is The Atlas Moth. Good reviews, I agree with them too.

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At 11/2/11 06:18 PM, Zodir wrote: Also, for a creative writing class I'm taking, I need to write a poem based on an instrumental piece of music. I'm thinking of Odal by Agalloch or Dancing Mad by Nobuo Uematsu. Do you guys have any other suggestions?

Dancing Mad, do it! I haven't heard that Agalloch song and should hear more by them which is why I'm going to ask the Metal Hell this right now:

Best Agalloch album to start with. Which one do you think? I'm considering putting one of their albums on my Christmas wishlist.

On another note, Duff, considering how much you oppose 0% reviews that have the slightest compliment, I'm wondering which albums you would define 100%.

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At 11/3/11 08:17 AM, Bahamut wrote: Best Agalloch album to start with

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