Plagiarism hoooooooooooooooo

At 5/2/11 02:25 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Plagiarism hoooooooooooooooo

Oh wow, they're so close it's impressive. lol

Sadly both Heavenly and Gamma Ray are kind of lame now, they both already had their golden albums.

At 5/2/11 08:09 AM, Bahamut wrote: Any Heidevolk fans here?

I hear about them plenty, what's a good song to check out? (yes, I am too lazy to just go to your blog lol)

I mostly like Seasons in the Abyss for the title track. The rest is kinda meh to me.

Slayer is a band that the best songs are always the first and last track.

Seasons In The Abyss is the best Slayer album in my opinion though, not that that's saying much since most of their albums are a joke.

As for Maiden, it depends what you've listened to. If you didn't click on for songs like Aces High and The Number of the Beast, chances are their music might not be for you.

Iron Maiden are good for 5-10 minutes. Listening to any Iron Maiden album in entirety is one of the most boring things you can do. Especially Brave New World...ugh, so bad.

At 5/1/11 11:06 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 5/1/11 07:11 PM, AniMetal wrote: I haven't actually listened to them, but I hear about them a lot so they're probably just as shittie as the rest.

You know how stupid you sound when you say that, right...? "Oh! I don't know them, but I can assume that all their career work is shit because they are a metalcore band." Way to go Ani...

It may be a bit judgmental, but it'd save me loads of time.

I never said they were not. But any time we say Power Metal is all about power chords, dragons and high pitched vocals, you go apeshit... yup... that's what we call stereotypes....

The difference is, their are plenty of SUCCESSFUL power metal bands alone that disprove that stereotype. I can't think of a single SUCCESSFUL metalcore/deathcore band that disproves mine, with the exception of BTBAM once again.

I think anime sucks, but that's irrelevant... right...?

Then chances are you've never legitimately watched a good series before.

Saying that is more like saying "metal sucks" after only listening to cannibal corpse, pantera and slayer.

There is at least 100 bad "core" bands for 1 decent one... But that doesn't mean you can just claim that they all suck.

Okay, hypothetically speaking I know there are probably some good core bands out there.

Would I EVER waste my time shifting through all that shit to find something decent? That's like digging through a huge pile of green leaves for a 20 dollar bill. Sure it's 20 dollars if you find it, but in that time you could probably make that much money doing easier things.

Yeah they really do, almost the entire crowd was Iron Maiden cock-sucking douchebags.

Another correct guess :)

You can't ask me to avoid a Death Metal pit... The only problem is that these kids actually think that they are allowed to join in the fun. Sadly, they lack the braincells to understand they are not supposed to do the windmill in the middle of the pit...

I see that ninja pitting at most shows, even ones without core bands. When I saw Suicidal Tendencies, Cro-Mags, D.R.I., Underdog and six local bands. That's ten punk bands, yet there was a shit ton of core dancing. (or at least, during the opening bands - during the big four bands, it had changed from ninja fighting to legit moshing - thank god)

Because if a large sum of people leave early, they'll say "OH SHIT, PEOPLE ARE LEAVING EARLY" and because their usually is someone monitoring, at least on major tours, what bands receive what kind of reaction. Also, based off merch sales they can tell who was the most popular.

Maybe, I don't know if they even monitor like you said... Maybe they do...

Believe me, they do. Or at least for major tours they do, like SS.

Melodic Death Metal hit its peak back around 2002 or 2003, metalcore around 2005 or 2006 and deathcore around 2008 or 2009. All those genres are on the decline, they are getting less popular if anything.

I hope you are speaking the thruth... And I really hope there won't be some kind of shit to replace it...

I pretty much am. of course their are exceptions, children of bodom(melodic death metal), Avenged Sevenfold(metalcore) and Bring Me The Horizon(Deathcore) are all still increasing in popularity. But for the most part, bands are decreasing.

Like dancecore or somethin' like that... oh wait...

lol Attack Attack.

Bands like Escape The Fate and Black Veil Brides seem to be the wave replacing deathcore.

Maybe it's my lack of experience at core/melo death shows, because I have good taste, but i've never actually seen anything like that happen at a show with those kinds of bands on it.

Happenned to me. I saw Threat Signal live, and the opening bands were chug-chug masters... Some kid kicked me in the back...

The closest to anything like that that ever happened is at Paganfest Part II in 2009(Korpiklaani, Primordial, Moonsorrow, Blackguard, Swashbuckle) I was on the barrier and the two guys behind me each grabbed one of my arms and threw me off the barrier to take my spot during blackguard's set.

But then again, that tour was sponsored by Hot Topic so that probably explains the douchebaggishness.

By the way, has anyone listened to Scale the Summit? They're an instrumental prog-metal band. They have some really great stuff; toured with BtBaM and Cynic a couple years ago.

Dunno, will look into them :)

Definitely check out Scale The Summit, duff. STS are great.

Like I said earlier, they really go hand in hand with Animals As Leaders. (STS is more atmospheric and emotional as AAL is more technical is "woooooah" IMO)

I love Insomnium so much, just like a little girl that loves Justin Bieber.

At 5/2/11 03:25 PM, AniMetal wrote:
Like I said earlier, they really go hand in hand with Animals As Leaders. (STS is more atmospheric and emotional as AAL is more technical is "woooooah" IMO)

I've been directed to AAL for sometime now and listened to only a handful of their songs and come away unsatisfied. Is there an album or a selection of songs that you could reccomend? I'd love to find a new prog-metal band to listen to.

On the topic of prog-metal, I just discovered this Israeli prog-metal band called Amaseffer the other day. Very atmospheric and just real great stuff. They capture some awesome heavy riffs and infuse a lot of middle-eastern sound in there.

At 5/2/11 03:25 PM, AniMetal wrote: The difference is, their are plenty of SUCCESSFUL power metal bands alone that disprove that stereotype. I can't think of a single SUCCESSFUL metalcore/deathcore band that disproves mine, with the exception of BTBAM once again.

Yeah well, Protest The Hero do not tend to fit the description you've made of Metalcore, same for Glass Casket, All Shall Perish and early Through The Eyes Of The Dead (albums like Bloodlust).

Then chances are you've never legitimately watched a good series before.

I don't actually hate anime. The point of my statement was to show you that your own appreciation of Shadows Fall was irrelevant in our debate :O

Okay, hypothetically speaking I know there are probably some good core bands out there.

Good bands, yes... but I can't think of any "outstanding" metalcore band...

Would I EVER waste my time shifting through all that shit to find something decent? That's like digging through a huge pile of green leaves for a 20 dollar bill. Sure it's 20 dollars if you find it, but in that time you could probably make that much money doing easier things.

Haha :P

I see that ninja pitting at most shows, even ones without core bands. When I saw Suicidal Tendencies, Cro-Mags, D.R.I., Underdog and six local bands. That's ten punk bands, yet there was a shit ton of core dancing. (or at least, during the opening bands - during the big four bands, it had changed from ninja fighting to legit moshing - thank god)

That's kind of sad... These kids don't respect the rules of mosh pits...

Believe me, they do. Or at least for major tours they do, like SS.

I guess I could go, then :)

I pretty much am. of course their are exceptions, children of bodom(melodic death metal), Avenged Sevenfold(metalcore) and Bring Me The Horizon(Deathcore) are all still increasing in popularity. But for the most part, bands are decreasing.

That's what I like about "pop" music... It goes down faster than it went up...

Bands like Escape The Fate and Black Veil Brides seem to be the wave replacing deathcore.

Yup... Post-hardcore emo shit... I love it...

The closest to anything like that that ever happened is at Paganfest Part II in 2009(Korpiklaani, Primordial, Moonsorrow, Blackguard, Swashbuckle) I was on the barrier and the two guys behind me each grabbed one of my arms and threw me off the barrier to take my spot during blackguard's set.

Haha! I would have punched these shitbags in the back of the head.

Definitely check out Scale The Summit, duff. STS are great.

Will do :)

Like I said earlier, they really go hand in hand with Animals As Leaders. (STS is more atmospheric and emotional as AAL is more technical is "woooooah" IMO)

Good :)

At 5/2/11 05:53 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: I love Insomnium so much, just like a little girl that loves Justin Bieber.

I still didn't listen to any of their stuff... I should get into that...

At 5/3/11 02:56 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 5/2/11 03:25 PM, AniMetal wrote: Bands like Escape The Fate and Black Veil Brides seem to be the wave replacing deathcore.

Yup... Post-hardcore emo shit... I love it...

I am legitimately offended that you are insulting Post Hardcore by claiming those bands are a part of it.

At 5/3/11 03:08 AM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 5/3/11 02:56 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 5/2/11 03:25 PM, AniMetal wrote: Bands like Escape The Fate and Black Veil Brides seem to be the wave replacing deathcore.

Yup... Post-hardcore emo shit... I love it...

I am legitimately offended that you are insulting Post Hardcore by claiming those bands are a part of it.

I love how they need effects on their mics to make that shithead sound somewhat decent...

And tell me how they are not post-hardcore...

At 5/2/11 05:53 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: I love Insomnium so much, just like a little girl that loves Justin Bieber.

Great band is great.

At 5/3/11 03:23 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I love how they need effects on their mics to make that shithead sound somewhat decent...

Ugh, I hate them so much.

And tell me how they are not post-hardcore...

It sounds more like emocore to me.

When I think of hardcore I think of bands like Minor Threat, Black Flag, D.R.I., Propagandhi, early Suicidal Tendencies, Carnivore, The Cro-Mags, Pro-Pain, Agnostic Front, Discharge, Social Distortion, Underdog, etc.

When I think of shittie hardcore that scene kids supposedly listen to? Hatebreed and Earth Crisis are the ONLY bands that come to mind, any other "hardcore" those kids are listening to is almost always either metalcore, melodic death metal or deathcore.

Believe me, they do. Or at least for major tours they do, like SS.

I guess I could go, then :)

I pretty much am. of course their are exceptions, children of bodom(melodic death metal), Avenged Sevenfold(metalcore) and Bring Me The Horizon(Deathcore) are all still increasing in popularity. But for the most part, bands are decreasing.

That's what I like about "pop" music... It goes down faster than it went up...

Realistically, the core genres are way closer to pop then metal or hardcore(*cough cough* PUNK *cough*) anyway.

And the teenage fanbase between the two is almost indistinguishable these days anyway.

Haha! I would have punched these shitbags in the back of the head.

Haha easier said then done, I ended up just worming a spot up on the barrier a few feet away in a matter of minutes. No biggie, i'm the skinniest guy ever.

At 5/2/11 03:25 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 5/2/11 08:09 AM, Bahamut wrote: Any Heidevolk fans here?

I hear about them plenty, what's a good song to check out? (yes, I am too lazy to just go to your blog lol)

Best starting off with the most popular tracks which are Nehalennia, Ostara, Saksenland and Wodan Heerst. I still need to get their debut album.

I mostly like Seasons in the Abyss for the title track. The rest is kinda meh to me.

Slayer is a band that the best songs are always the first and last track.

South of Heaven's Spill the Blood? I prefer other tracks on that album.

Seasons In The Abyss is the best Slayer album in my opinion though, not that that's saying much since most of their albums are a joke.

I at least like Reign in Blood, parts of Seasons in the Abyss and parts of South of Heaven. I'm not even going to waste my time on post-Seasons.

As for Maiden, it depends what you've listened to. If you didn't click on for songs like Aces High and The Number of the Beast, chances are their music might not be for you.

Iron Maiden are good for 5-10 minutes. Listening to any Iron Maiden album in entirety is one of the most boring things you can do. Especially Brave New World...ugh, so bad.

Good thing it's a great listen for me to go through all those albums.

Seeing as you're discussing hardcore I've noticed recently a few of my friends have become completely obsessed with it, touting it as 'the way forward'.

lolwut.

It's bands like Your Demise, Terror, While She Sleeps and The Ghost Inside. (I do like all these bands, but not that much)

The music scene in my city has gone completely down the shitter, now there are no metal bands and countless, and I mean fucking countless cookie-cutter hardcore bands with the same 2-step sections and crappy breakdowns.

I wish I was born in the late 70's.

Also why the fuck do so many people have a boner for Architects now? They're so fucking boring, and I swear all their songs sounds more or less the exact bloody same with slight changes.

Oh yea and the other day I had a massive laugh at some hipster/scene/brootalkid what the fuck ever, as not only has he shaved one side of his head and left the other long (complete with massive fringe of course) he decided to tattoo some lyrics from a hardcore song all the fuck over his chest for his first tattoo.

What is this world coming to.

Sylosis - Swallow The World

I am just now listening to Kvelertak's debut album. I'm surprised at how good it is, probably one of the most rifftastic albums that I've ever heard. It's too bad that I can't understand the lyrics.

At 5/3/11 02:56 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 5/2/11 05:53 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: I love Insomnium so much, just like a little girl that loves Justin Bieber.

I still didn't listen to any of their stuff... I should get into that...

At 5/3/11 05:02 AM, AniMetal wrote:

At 5/2/11 05:53 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: I love Insomnium so much, just like a little girl that loves Justin Bieber.

Great band is great.

They're so powerful, melancholic and intense with those Doom influences. Favourite band since last summer. When I went to see them in October I was almost crying seeing those guys playing their beautiful music. I really want to see them again.

At 5/3/11 10:18 AM, ZpLiNtEh wrote

It's bands like Your Demise, Terror, While She Sleeps and The Ghost Inside. (I do like all these bands, but not that much)

None of those bands are hardcore.

At the most, they're post-hardcore.

What is this world coming to.

I'm convinced you don't know the difference between real hardcore(See: the list I already posted on this page) and metalcore/deathcore.

Metalcore and deathcore are shittie scene music, hardcore is awesome punk. (And hatebreed + earth crisis, who both suck)

At 5/3/11 08:41 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 5/2/11 03:25 PM, AniMetal wrote:

Best starting off with the most popular tracks which are Nehalennia, Ostara, Saksenland and Wodan Heerst. I still need to get their debut album.

Will check out.

I at least like Reign in Blood, parts of Seasons in the Abyss and parts of South of Heaven. I'm not even going to waste my time on post-Seasons.

Ugh, Reign In Blood is a joke. 100% speedfest, no melody, no meaning, nothing of interest.

At 5/3/11 02:23 PM, AniMetal wrote:

I at least like Reign in Blood, parts of Seasons in the Abyss and parts of South of Heaven. I'm not even going to waste my time on post-Seasons.

Ugh, Reign In Blood is a joke. 100% speedfest, no melody, no meaning, nothing of interest.

..... You must be joking. Reign in blood is by far the 2nd best Slayer album.

At 5/3/11 03:50 PM, Anti-pie wrote: ..... You must be joking. Reign in blood is by far the 2nd best Slayer album.

I love how you say that like it's a good thing.

Slayer are a joke all around.

And btw, 3rd. Seasons is 1st, south of heaven is 2nd. All IMO of course.

At 5/3/11 02:23 PM, AniMetal wrote: None of those bands are hardcore.
At the most, they're post-hardcore.
I'm convinced you don't know the difference between real hardcore(See: the list I already posted on this page) and metalcore/deathcore.

Well they're not metalcore..I know what metalcore is as I've been listening to it for 5 years. I don't know anything about hardcore though, all I know is what I've overheard from said friends creaming their pants over these bands.

Ugh, Reign In Blood is a joke. 100% speedfest, no melody, no meaning, nothing of interest.

It's good imo, overrated, but good.

At 5/3/11 05:19 PM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: Well they're not metalcore..I know what metalcore is as I've been listening to it for 5 years. I don't know anything about hardcore though, all I know is what I've overheard from said friends creaming their pants over these bands.

Yeah, if your friends are under the age of 25 then chances are they don't have a clue in the world what hardcore is.

Ugh, Reign In Blood is a joke. 100% speedfest, no melody, no meaning, nothing of interest.

It's good imo, overrated, but good.

Mih, totally forgettable and boring.

Although, despite it's massive popularity I do actually enjoy Raining Blood. haha (But the Vader cover is definitely better than the original)

At 5/3/11 05:02 AM, AniMetal wrote: When I think of hardcore I think of bands like Minor Threat, Black Flag, D.R.I., Propagandhi, early Suicidal Tendencies, Carnivore, The Cro-Mags, Pro-Pain, Agnostic Front, Discharge, Social Distortion, Underdog, etc.

I'm not saying they are really "post-hardcore". That's the name they give to that kind of crappy music. Shit like A Day To Remember or Black Veil Brides. They really aren't anywhere near hardcore music... but that's how they call them...

Realistically, the core genres are way closer to pop then metal or hardcore(*cough cough* PUNK *cough*) anyway.

It is.

Agalloch - Hallways Of Enchanted Ebony

At 5/2/11 10:58 PM, Bladebound wrote:
I've been directed to AAL for sometime now and listened to only a handful of their songs and come away unsatisfied. Is there an album or a selection of songs that you could reccomend? I'd love to find a new prog-metal band to listen to.

I don't know what the fuck I was talking about in that last post. I just listened to their self titled album and these guys are gold. Tosin Abasi is one of the best guitarists I've heard in years and each song on the album stands out to me, with my favorite being CAFO.

Also, I thought this was an interesting article:

http://www.metalunderground.com/news/det ails.cfm?newsid=66030

I now have Manilla Road's The Deluge and it's really good. I already heard most of the songs from Roadkill but felt it was put together better on the album itself so the songs I already heard were a much better experience here. Big thanks to Shadow Kingdom Records for re-releasing this album. All's left from Manilla Road now are The Circus Maximus, Mark of the Beast, After Midnight Live and the upcoming album Playground of the Damned. I did see Mark of the Beast for £35 on eBay which is much less than what I've seen elsewhere. I was tempted to get it but I can't help but think it'll be re-released sometime soon.

At 5/3/11 02:23 PM, AniMetal wrote: Ugh, Reign In Blood is a joke. 100% speedfest, no melody, no meaning, nothing of interest.

Yet it's one of the very few Slayer albums I give a damn about.

At 5/3/11 04:20 PM, batman64 wrote: But it was worth it in my opinion, Disco died and Rock and Metal remain.

That just shows it's not worth going with popular music for the most part. The singers that get some time under the sun will only be forgotten by everyone in five years time when another hit pop singer comes in. Even underground heavy metal bands will still be remembered decades later.

At 5/3/11 11:36 AM, DeIirium wrote: I am just now listening to Kvelertak's debut album. I'm surprised at how good it is, probably one of the most rifftastic albums that I've ever heard. It's too bad that I can't understand the lyrics.

I think it's a fucking shit album. Must be all the black metal I've listened to but when I listen to it I hear a lot of modern day influences and it's like getting black metal and raping it in the face with Blink 182.

At 5/3/11 04:20 PM, batman64 wrote: Ponos bro, killer track man, keep up the great work, I see great things in your future.

My band Troll have a new one just for you Billy boy. And all of yas, because the Metal Hell is my favourite audience.

Troll - The Tale of the Ghost of Old Man Withers

At 5/3/11 08:27 PM, Bladebound wrote: I don't know what the fuck I was talking about in that last post. I just listened to their self titled album and these guys are gold.

This club is turning into a gay club.

(But that's mostly HeavenDuff's fault)

At 4/26/11 01:43 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Not like I said that their other songs are not great. But the riffs on that track are techical, yet so fucking melodic. The keyboards on that track add a great symphonic feeling to support the badass guitars. And Allen, well... he's Allen :P

I think the guitar and everything in Evolution is great, but I really don't like the chorus.

At 4/27/11 04:45 AM, Bahamut wrote: I'd ask for drone doom recommendations but surely Sunn 0))) are an obvious one for that.

Check out Boris's drone stuff, and Nadja.

At 4/28/11 08:59 AM, Vectom wrote: Doom Death should be more popular. I need some new bands in the genre..maybe I'll form a Doom Death band...hmm...

Have you heard of Doom:VS?

At 4/29/11 05:58 PM, AniMetal wrote: Personally I think Marco or Peter should've gotten the spot, this mike seems like a tool and wasn't even THAT great.

Why do you think that?. I think he did an awesome job and he seems like a cool dude. I would have either went with him or Marco Minneman.

At 5/1/11 11:05 PM, AniMetal wrote: Scale The Summit are pretty amazing.

I have Monument, which is pretty good, but I don't find it all that great. The first track, Shaping the Clouds, is my favorite. I find most of the rest to be decent, but not very memorable. Would you say the other two albums are better?

At 5/2/11 08:09 AM, Bahamut wrote: Any Heidevolk fans here?

There's a band I haven't listened to in a long time. pretty good stuff.

Any of you guys listen to The Human Abstract? I understand most of you would call the metalcore, but seriously, their musicianship is far too advanced to be put in that tag. I just read a track by track explanation of their new album Digital Veil, it's amazing how much thought goes into each song.

At 5/4/11 11:14 AM, SomaGuye wrote: Any of you guys listen to The Human Abstract? I understand most of you would call the metalcore, but seriously, their musicianship is far too advanced to be put in that tag. I just read a track by track explanation of their new album Digital Veil, it's amazing how much thought goes into each song.

Haven't listened to the new album a lot, but I've listened to Nocturne. I like some songs from that album but most of it is too chaotic for my liking.

At 5/4/11 11:14 AM, SomaGuye wrote: Any of you guys listen to The Human Abstract? I understand most of you would call the metalcore, but seriously, their musicianship is far too advanced to be put in that tag. I just read a track by track explanation of their new album Digital Veil, it's amazing how much thought goes into each song.

I used to love them, but now I just like them. I'm out of the core scene now.

At 5/4/11 11:04 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: I think the guitar and everything in Evolution is great, but I really don't like the chorus.

What's so bad about it :O

At 4/27/11 04:45 AM, Bahamut wrote: I'd ask for drone doom recommendations but surely Sunn 0))) are an obvious one for that.

Check out Boris's drone stuff, and Nadja.

I second that. Boris makes great Drone, I will also add Earth, Ascend and some tracks by Khlyst (not all of them... cause a lot of them are shitty wannabe experimental avant-garde crap).

At 5/4/11 11:14 AM, SomaGuye wrote: Any of you guys listen to The Human Abstract? I understand most of you would call the metalcore, but seriously, their musicianship is far too advanced to be put in that tag. I just read a track by track explanation of their new album Digital Veil, it's amazing how much thought goes into each song.

Well, they are a progressive metalcore band. I like their album Midheaven. I still didn't get to listen to the new album. But I will do it someday...

Symphony X - Evolution

At 5/4/11 11:14 AM, SomaGuye wrote: Any of you guys listen to The Human Abstract? I understand most of you would call the metalcore, but seriously, their musicianship is far too advanced to be put in that tag. I just read a track by track explanation of their new album Digital Veil, it's amazing how much thought goes into each song.

Yea I really like them, I have Nocturne but I need to give it another good listen. Pretty damn good band though.

At 5/4/11 02:36 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: What's so bad about it :O

It's not horrible. I just don't really care for it, and it gets stuck in my head easily, which starts to get on my nerves. The rest of the song is awesome, though.

Check out Boris's drone stuff, and Nadja.

I second that. Boris makes great Drone, I will also add Earth,

Yes, Earth, also. I'll look up Ascend later, if I remember. Lately, I've been looking at an assload of stoner/doom/sludge type bands and stoner rock, blues rock, psychedellic rock and the like.

I definitely think you'll dig Nadja if you're into Boris and Earth and Sunn 0)). I have Thaumogenesis, which I like to listen to when I'm staring at my ceiling, spaced out, which is something I do often. I like to do that while balancing my sub-woofer above my bed and laying my speakers on either side of my head. Electric Wizard and Ufomammut are some of my favorite bands to listen to when I do that. Lucifer Songs always has me going "abuuuuuuuuh....."

I really need to score some shrooms this spring/summer.

So i've been venturing out from metalcore recently. I've fallen in love with BTBAM, and i've loved Opeth for a while.

Any awesome progressive metal bands i should give a listen?

Hey Sense, Nadja got something like 20 records on MA, which one you suggest I listen to first?