At 3/2/11 11:59 AM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote:

At 3/1/11 07:01 PM, AniMetal wrote: What the flying fuck is death n' roll?

Death metal with rock n' roll influences. I almost sure it's not a real subgenre, but it's like viking metal, it's folk, but I may ask for a viking themed band...

I really thought Viking Metal was not a real genre, but now, I'm kind of unsure. If you look up Viking Metal on the Map of Metal, the guy wrote this about Viking Metal:

Viking metal is a subgenre of heavy metal music characterised by it's galloping pace, keyboard-rich anthemic sound, bleakness and dramatic emphasis on Norse mythology, Norse paganism, and the Viking Age. Viking metal is "noisy, chaotic, and often augmented by sorrowful keyboard melodies." Like folk metal bands, Viking metal acts "generally utilize some acoustic and other unusual instruments in addition to the traditional metal instruments."

I still think that most "Viking Metal" bands are just folk or melodeath bands with viking-related lyrical themes. But there might be some legitimate Viking Metal bands or tracks. Stuff like Bathory.

But Death 'n' Roll, while I didn't look it up closely, is probably a kind of mix between Melodeath and Rock 'n' Roll. I really doubt you can actually mix straight down Death Metal with Rock 'n' Roll...

At 3/2/11 12:55 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Hey Duff, remember when you posted Kvelertak? Yeah, that band is fucking awesome. It was the perfect thing to show my friend Ian, who loves both hardcore and black metal.

This is just a sick and awesome fucking album! I love it two :)

Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath

At 3/2/11 01:50 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 3/2/11 11:59 AM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote:

At 3/1/11 07:01 PM, AniMetal wrote: What the flying fuck is death n' roll?

Death metal with rock n' roll influences. I almost sure it's not a real subgenre, but it's like viking metal, it's folk, but I may ask for a viking themed band...

I really thought Viking Metal was not a real genre, but now, I'm kind of unsure. If you look up Viking Metal on the Map of Metal, the guy wrote this about Viking Metal:

He didn't wrote that, it's in wikipedia.

But Death 'n' Roll, while I didn't look it up closely, is probably a kind of mix between Melodeath and Rock 'n' Roll. I really doubt you can actually mix straight down Death Metal with Rock 'n' Roll...

I don't know if you heard the Death N' Roll tracks on Map of Metal, but that shit ain't melo at all to me.

At 3/2/11 04:21 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 3/1/11 07:01 PM, AniMetal wrote: MA is good for finding new bands, that's it.

This is what I'll always be grateful for, even if MA happens to turn into a site worse than YouTube or deviantART.

I doubt it'll get that bad. The elitism tends to keep the 12 and 13 year olds out, and the idiots away. Of course, circlejerking is bad unless it's over Hellhammer, but eh. As long as there's no 12 year olds fapping to Metallica I don't really care. I don't pay much attention to M-A, anyway. I can't take people who say Rush is metal seriously.

At 3/2/11 01:50 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I still think that most "Viking Metal" bands are just folk or melodeath bands with viking-related lyrical themes. But there might be some legitimate Viking Metal bands or tracks. Stuff like Bathory.

Naw. Bathory is first wave bm. No need to make further subgenres for changes in their sound. Plus, if viking metal actually became a genre then we should have genres like philosophy metal, sex metal, gore metal, evil metal, Satan metal, tree metal, goat metal, ice metal etc. See how ridiculous it becomes? Yeah. Lyrics don't define genres, nor make the need for new ones.

But anyway, yeah. That's what most "viking metal" usually is. Fucking stupid kids with a romanticized view of vikings. Generally folk metal and melodeath and shit, like you said.

At 3/2/11 01:50 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I still think that most "Viking Metal" bands are just folk or melodeath bands with viking-related lyrical themes. But there might be some legitimate Viking Metal bands or tracks. Stuff like Bathory.

Naw. Bathory is first wave bm. No need to make further subgenres for changes in their sound. Plus, if viking metal actually became a genre then we should have genres like philosophy metal, sex metal, gore metal, evil metal, Satan metal, tree metal, forest metal, ice metal etc. See how ridiculous it becomes? Yeah. Lyrics don't define genres, nor make the need for new ones.

But anyway, yeah. That's what most "viking metal" usually is. Fucking stupid kids with a romanticized view of vikings. Generally folk metal and melodeath and shit, like you said.

At 3/2/11 01:50 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: But Death 'n' Roll, while I didn't look it up closely, is probably a kind of mix between Melodeath and Rock 'n' Roll. I really doubt you can actually mix straight down Death Metal with Rock 'n' Roll...

Naw. Melodeath would make it suck, as adding melodeath does to everything. Ever. It would most likely be sludgy and shit. I don't know. I can't really imagine DM with rock'n'roll thrown in having melodeath. This is a good example of what I'm talking about.

At 3/2/11 04:48 PM, Dalnaki wrote: double post in post

Well, that's embarrassing. No idea how that happened.

If anybody were to adamantly insist that viking metal is a genre, I would shit in their cereal.

At 3/2/11 01:47 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Lesbian - Power Hor

Their new album is great too.

At 3/2/11 01:50 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 3/2/11 11:59 AM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote:

I really thought Viking Metal was not a real genre, but now, I'm kind of unsure. If you look up Viking Metal on the Map of Metal, the guy wrote this about Viking Metal:

All the definitions on that site are from wikipedia, NONE of them were written by the owner of the site.

Viking metal is a subgenre of heavy metal music characterised by it's galloping pace, keyboard-rich anthemic sound, bleakness and dramatic emphasis on Norse mythology, Norse paganism, and the Viking Age. Viking metal is "noisy, chaotic, and often augmented by sorrowful keyboard melodies." Like folk metal bands, Viking metal acts "generally utilize some acoustic and other unusual instruments in addition to the traditional metal instruments."

Yes, that's why anything from Bathory to Amon Amarth to Manowar to Stormwarrior is considered viking metal.

But Death 'n' Roll, while I didn't look it up closely, is probably a kind of mix between Melodeath and Rock 'n' Roll. I really doubt you can actually mix straight down Death Metal with Rock 'n' Roll...

Sounds like a load of bullshit to me.

Kylesa - Don't Look Back

At 3/1/11 07:54 PM, AniMetal wrote: Yeah, I know next to no one who listens to DF anymore - people here liked them back in 2006/2007. I don't think I know many people, from both my metalhead friends and my highschool friends, who still like them.

Haha I do, they were the first metal band I really listened to when I was 13 and I still love them :P

On the subject of drunk people at shows, in Norwich there's always a few middle aged beardy metalheads with leather jackets hanging around the edge of the crowd and near the bar, totally fucked off their faces, it's usually pretty funny but some cock walked backwards into me and made me drop my fucking beer. Irritating.

I've never seen, even once, someone begging someone else to buy them a beer at a show. I've seen people mooching for money so they could buy their own beer, but never someone trying to get someone else to buy them a beer.

Ha when I went to go see As I Lay Dying (yes I know) my mate was asking people to buy us some beer, but in the end I just went up to the bar and got served despite being underage, which is strange because they usually ID, ah well, I'm 18 now so whatever.

At 3/2/11 05:09 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 3/2/11 01:47 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Lesbian - Power Hor

Their new album is great too.

I agree it is very good, but I think Power Hor was even better.

At 3/2/11 04:48 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 3/2/11 04:21 AM, Bahamut wrote: This is what I'll always be grateful for, even if MA happens to turn into a site worse than YouTube or deviantART.

I doubt it'll get that bad. The elitism tends to keep the 12 and 13 year olds out, and the idiots away.

Well, except for some of the reviewers that ARE idiots. :P Still, some of those factors I can easily take for granted on MA after considering that though.

Hey guys, been a while since I've posted. I have a couple things to say/ask:

First, what do you guys think of the band Destroyer 666? A friend recommended them to me, and I'm not sure where to start. What I've heard so far is pretty good.

Second, listen to the band Pagan Altar. Found their album Mythical and Magical cheap, bought it, and love it. Pretty good traditional heavy metal with some doom influence.

Third, I need some more really good prog bands. THROW LISTS AT ME!!!!

Fourth, I'm stuck in a rut for reviews. I'm not sure what to review next, so any suggestions would be great.

At 3/2/11 08:12 PM, Zodir wrote: First, what do you guys think of the band Destroyer 666? A friend recommended them to me, and I'm not sure where to start. What I've heard so far is pretty good.

Excellent blackened thrash metal. Start with "Phoenix Rising"

Second, listen to the band Pagan Altar. Found their album Mythical and Magical cheap, bought it, and love it. Pretty good traditional heavy metal with some doom influence.

Great band is great, Volume 1 is amazing. :D

Third, I need some more really good prog bands. THROW LISTS AT ME!!!!

Fourth, I'm stuck in a rut for reviews. I'm not sure what to review next, so any suggestions would be great.

What style of prog are you looking for? Kind of like folk metal, "progressive metal" merely means another genre of metal that's just progressive/folkie. (seriously, there's no such thing as straight up prog metal or straight up folk metal)

Or hell, do you mean progressive rock or something?

At 3/2/11 08:12 PM, Zodir wrote: I'm not sure where to start

Unchain the Wolves.

At 3/2/11 08:12 PM, Zodir wrote: Second, listen to the band Pagan Altar. Found their album Mythical and Magical cheap, bought it, and love it. Pretty good traditional heavy metal with some doom influence.

Actually NWOBHM. Predates doom, but yeah, they're good.

I'm stuck in a rut for reviews. I'm not sure what to review next, so any suggestions would be great.

I've said it before. Incantation's Onward to Golgotha. Do it.

At 3/2/11 08:20 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote:

At 3/2/11 08:12 PM, Zodir wrote: I'm not sure where to start

Unchain the Wolves.

Seconded.

At 3/2/11 11:59 AM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Death metal with rock n' roll influences. I almost sure it's not a real subgenre

You're a fucking idiot. If a band is death metal and has all these old school rock 'n' roll influences, what are you going to call them. How about deny the band exist, because it's not a 'real' subgenre.

YOU WILL OBEY

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At 3/2/11 12:55 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Hey Duff, remember when you posted Kvelertak? Yeah, that band is fucking awesome.

I got three tracks in to the album then deleted it. Do not want.

Something about them got on my nerves. Riffs were lame or something.

At 3/2/11 01:47 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 3/1/11 03:01 AM, PenisClown wrote: So guys, any good metal albums I should get?

fucking

Lesbian - Power Hor

get it

I have it on my iPod, got it a few years ago. I don't think I've listened to it in one sitting because the first track is AWESOME and then isn't the rest of the album ambient? Well the next song or something I don't know but I always ended up turning it off and it hasn't left a big impression on me. I guess I'll give it a spin today and see what happens.

But because you recommended something I already have you'll have to SPIN THE WHEEL OF DEATH AND RECOMMEND ME SOMETHING ELSE MWUHAHAHA.

Downloading Unchain the Wolves and Onward to Golgatha now.

I'm going to chuck on Boris' 'Flood', haven't listened to it yet. Anyone here a fan of Flood?

You know that gibberish in my sig are lyrics from Hooch? Fucking King Buzzo was a tripper, let me tell you.

Funny shit with Buzz.

I don't think anyone ever has written more bullshit lyrics than Buzz, fucking hash pump a gonna led? WHAT THE FUCK IS A GONNA LED YOU ARSEHOLE.

I'm seeing Melvins on Monday :O

Can't mosh though, dissapoint.

At 3/2/11 08:18 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 3/2/11 08:12 PM, Zodir wrote: Third, I need some more really good prog bands. THROW LISTS AT ME!!!!

Fourth, I'm stuck in a rut for reviews. I'm not sure what to review next, so any suggestions would be great.

What style of prog are you looking for? Kind of like folk metal, "progressive metal" merely means another genre of metal that's just progressive/folkie. (seriously, there's no such thing as straight up prog metal or straight up folk metal)

Or hell, do you mean progressive rock or something?

Anything proggy really. I take anything of the styles from Quo Vadis, to Opeth, to Symphony X, to Dream Theater, to Porcupine Tree. Just throw those at me.

At 3/2/11 09:02 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 3/2/11 08:12 PM, Zodir wrote: Second, listen to the band Pagan Altar. Found their album Mythical and Magical cheap, bought it, and love it. Pretty good traditional heavy metal with some doom influence.

I'm stuck in a rut for reviews. I'm not sure what to review next, so any suggestions would be great.

I've said it before. Incantation's Onward to Golgotha. Do it.

Ehhh, but that album already has a review. It is a kickass album, but I don't like reviewing albums that already are. But that's just me. Eh, doing that might be just what I need, whatever. I'll write one.

At 3/2/11 11:59 AM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote:

At 3/1/11 07:01 PM, AniMetal wrote: What the flying fuck is death n' roll?

Death metal with rock n' roll influences.

To the lions with this man!

At 3/2/11 10:37 PM, smeagol1 wrote:

At 3/2/11 11:59 AM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote:

At 3/1/11 07:01 PM, AniMetal wrote: What the flying fuck is death n' roll?

Death metal with rock n' roll influences.

To the lions with this man!

Just the name of the sub genre sounds silly.

At 3/2/11 09:49 PM, Zodir wrote: Anything proggy really. I take anything of the styles from Quo Vadis, to Opeth, to Symphony X, to Dream Theater, to Porcupine Tree. Just throw those at me.

For more proggie death metal: The Devin Townsend Project, Psycroptic, Obscura, Neuraxis, Augury, Atheist, Into Eternity, Swallow The Sun, Barren Earth.

For bands similar to 90's Dream Theater: Liquid Tension Experiment, Fates Warning(For similar to DT songs, then perfect symmetry onwards), Queensryche(Up till their '90 album) and Planet X.

For bands similar to Porcupine Tree: FUCKING RIVERSIDE, THEY'RE AMAZING. Also, The Pineapple Thief.

Other more melodic progressive metal bands: Stratovarius, Pagan's Mind, 00's Kamelot, Ayreon, Seventh Wonder, Circus Maximus, Andromeda and Beyond Twilight

For weirder, more experimental prog metal: Zero Hour, Wastefall, Art Of Simplicity and Pharaoh

For epic progressive rock you should listen to: King Crimson, Yes, Therapy?, Camel and Genesis

Does anyone here know how to program drums or want to play/program some drum tracks for me?

At 3/3/11 12:11 AM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Does anyone here know how to program drums or want to play/program some drum tracks for me?

If I did I could help you. I like the sound of programmed drums, if they're done right. Sorry bro.

At 3/2/11 03:18 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: I don't know if you heard the Death N' Roll tracks on Map of Metal, but that shit ain't melo at all to me.

That Entombed track?

Well, I guess it might be possible then. But this track as more of a Thrashy-Death feel, but with more Groove than usual. Is that what they call Death 'n' Roll?

At 3/2/11 04:48 PM, Dalnaki wrote: Naw. Bathory is first wave bm. No need to make further subgenres for changes in their sound. Plus, if viking metal actually became a genre then we should have genres like philosophy metal, sex metal, gore metal, evil metal, Satan metal, tree metal, goat metal, ice metal etc. See how ridiculous it becomes? Yeah. Lyrics don't define genres, nor make the need for new ones.

Well, that's what I said in my original post on the matter of Viking Metal being a sub-genre or not. I said that according to this guy I quoted, Viking would be a legitimate genre. But that's not what I think.

But anyway, yeah. That's what most "viking metal" usually is. Fucking stupid kids with a romanticized view of vikings. Generally folk metal and melodeath and shit, like you said.

That :P

Naw. Melodeath would make it suck, as adding melodeath does to everything. Ever. It would most likely be sludgy and shit. I don't know. I can't really imagine DM with rock'n'roll thrown in having melodeath. This is a good example of what I'm talking about.

Don't go so hard on Melodeath. There are a few good Melodeath bands. But due to it's very accessible sound and structures, it suffered the fate of any musical genre that dares to get a little too popular... Hundreds of bands spawned out of nowhere and tried to feed on the succes of the few good Melodeath bands.

At 3/2/11 05:09 PM, AniMetal wrote: All the definitions on that site are from wikipedia, NONE of them were written by the owner of the site.

Making these definitions innacurate and shit >:( Right?

At 3/2/11 08:10 PM, batman64 wrote: So Duff, I know now how you felt when you got your 2nd review accepted.
It's a pretty damn good feeling.

It happenned to me twice. I kept two reviews they rejected, saved on my Hard Disk so I could work on them later. And I got both of my revisited reviews accepted :) I'm happy you got yours up !!! I'll read all your reviews.

At 3/3/11 12:30 AM, Xarnor wrote:

At 3/3/11 12:25 AM, Xarnor wrote: ***Drunk Kit from Hell...

***I meant Drum Kit from Hell. Don't know how that happened...

Fuckin' awesome typo !!!

Hell's already here if we are living to die !!!
Beast loose in paradise!
Who knows if we're gonna meet in heaven tonight?
Beast loose in paradise!

At 3/3/11 03:05 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Is that what they call Death 'n' Roll?

No, it's not a legitimate genre. I think it's just bands being silly, calling themselves that.

At 3/2/11 05:09 PM, AniMetal wrote: All the definitions on that site are from wikipedia, NONE of them were written by the owner of the site.

Making these definitions innacurate and shit >:( Right?

No, it just explains why they're inaccurate and shit.

Wikipedia doesn't know what metal is.

At 3/2/11 09:38 PM, PenisClown wrote: I have it on my iPod, got it a few years ago. I don't think I've listened to it in one sitting because the first track is AWESOME and then isn't the rest of the album ambient? Well the next song or something I don't know but I always ended up turning it off and it hasn't left a big impression on me. I guess I'll give it a spin today and see what happens.

Nah, it gets ambient and then back to fuckin heavy rockin'.

But because you recommended something I already have you'll have to SPIN THE WHEEL OF DEATH AND RECOMMEND ME SOMETHING ELSE MWUHAHAHA.

Asteroid - II

groovy stoner stuff. It's better than the first Asteroid album.

Did you ever get Keelhaul - Subject to Change Without Notice?

And anything by Spirit Caravan or Zebulon Pike is good. I have all albums by both bands.

You have Snailking by Ufomammut, right? Well, Lucifer Songs is also awesome. very cool and spacey. I just lied on my bed with my speakers on either side of my head and the bass turned up and stared at the ceiling through the whole album (which is only like a half hour).

I'm going to chuck on Boris' 'Flood', haven't listened to it yet. Anyone here a fan of Flood?

's not bad

Pentagram - When the Screams Come (one of my favorites)

At 3/3/11 12:11 AM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Does anyone here know how to program drums or want to play/program some drum tracks for me?

I can program drums if you want, I don't know how good they'll be though.

I don't know if I showed you all this but Wintersun-Death and the healing 50% faster.

At 3/2/11 11:33 PM, AniMetal wrote: Pagan's Mind

I'm rather curious about them right now. They have a new album on the way and I've heard of their name a few times now. Got any recommendations for their albums?

At 3/3/11 01:43 PM, smeagol1 wrote: I don't know if I showed you all this but Wintersun-Death and the healing 50% faster.

It's familiar to me. I'm sure you sent me a PM about it.

At 3/3/11 01:50 PM, Bahamut wrote:

At 3/2/11 11:33 PM, AniMetal wrote: Pagan's Mind

I'm rather curious about them right now. They have a new album on the way and I've heard of their name a few times now. Got any recommendations for their albums?

All of them.

BUT since "God's Equation" is by far their weakest album(While still being great, just not as great), start with that - that way you'll enjoy it more.

Type O Negative - Love You To Death (full)

At 3/3/11 12:25 AM, Xarnor wrote:

At 3/3/11 12:11 AM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Does anyone here know how to program drums or want to play/program some drum tracks for me?

I can help! I've got Drunk Kit from Hell and also Addictive Drums which is hecka realistic. Check out some of my metal songs to hear some of my programming.

so if I sent you some tracks, could you program some stuff. I don't care what the beats are as long as they're appropriate for death metal.

At 3/3/11 06:31 AM, AniMetal wrote:

At 3/3/11 03:05 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Is that what they call Death 'n' Roll?

No, it's not a legitimate genre. I think it's just bands being silly, calling themselves that.

Silly or not it sounds good.