At 12/19/10 06:19 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote:

At 12/19/10 06:13 PM, Zodir wrote: So, guys, remember when we were talking about Paramore? Well, apparently, they are breaking up or something.

No, lol.

Oh, ok. Sorry about that. I just heard it from a couple of friends who like Paramore and they were all discussing the break up.

At 12/19/10 06:12 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: In my opinion you shouldn't be allowed to post anymore in the Hell.

I totally get what your saying and don't disagree. However, if you do recognize someone as a troll, the best a community can do to deal with it is to ignore it. Completely.
You can't physically stop him from posting in a thread, member or not. Unless he begins to legitimately break rules, it only stops him from posting anywhere from an x-amount of time anyway.

As annoying as it may be, if you really think he is posting all this to sit back and laugh at everyone start to flipping virtual tables, it's the only way to also effectively combat it.
If it is just a member stating a strong opinion that comes out controversial, sure it is completely different, and arguments are natural here. But I think everyone should be able to recognize the difference, and be grown up enough to have the will power to control themselves when presented with the obvious.

I'm not ready to go as far as banning Dalnaki from the Metal Hell. I'm tired of his constant attacks and insults towards fellow members of the Metal Hell.

We won't tell you to stop posting Dalnaki, but we ask you to stop pushing people around for not apparent reason. If you have anything to say, regarding the opinions or tastes of other members, I will ask that you do this properly, and some kind of respect. You are free to speak your mind. But if you are going to do so, try to bring something to the table, and explain your thoughts on the subject, and avoid bold statements, filled with insults.

Gotta start discussing music again :P

I just got myself a few albums to listen to:

Mafia EP by Fleshgod Apocalypse
Happy Songs For Happy People by Mogwai
The Spear of the Lily is Aureoled by Sculptured
Norrøn Livskunst by Solefald
and
Amerijuanian by Bongzilla

I guess I will be quite busy for the next few days :)

At 12/19/10 07:18 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Happy Songs For Happy People by Mogwai

Shit, I've always wanted this album but can't find it. The one Mogwai album I have is fantastic.

I apologize for my douchebaggery, this isn't the first time I've caused a big fuss, and for that, I'm sorry. But. TheDaemonicPoet goes too far. Me? Not a fan of metal? Because I subscribe to elitism? I think I can see where he's going with this, that a metal fan should love all metal. But that is ridiculous, because some metal is objectively inferior. Besides, I'm not a troll. I've been posting here for months, and I vaguely remember joining the Metal Hell a few years back. Well. I think I did. I may be thinking of a different club, terrible memory, etc. Besides, I never claimed to know everything. The more metal bands I discover, the clearer it comes to me that it would be pretty much impossible for one person to know everything about metal himself. Doesn't mean I'm going to stop searching for new bands, though. There's nothing like the feeling of discovering a great band, and then sharing it with people. Not to mention, when people ask me for recommendations, I give them. Regardless of what I think of that person's favorite bands.

Besides, not to mention that I've been listening to metal since I was 12.

At 12/19/10 05:40 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: And why do you think that there is no consideration in our lists? If you will find a lot of my favorite bands in my list, it's basically because I like the vocalists I see has the best. So you think we list vocalists from bands we like... I think it works the other way around. I listen to those who I think... are the best.

Ah, shit. I hadn't even thought of that. I just thought everyone was putting vocalists from their favorite bands on the lists.

Dalnaki and I are not so different let him age a little bit and he will become a better member. Other wise Throw him in the fire.

I don't think banning Dalnaki would ever make this place any better.

You sir, have a good knowledge of metal and it's dark corners. Whenever someone feels like listenning to some more underground bands, he knows he can turn to you.

I won't try to convince you that there is no better Metal. I, myself think that artistic value cannot be found in every song or band I come across. However, artistic value can be found in every metal genre. I couldn't find myself saying Power Metal is inferior to Thrash Metal or anything like that.

Being who I am... I couldn't say that music is a hundred percent about objective artistic value or... a hundred percent about subjective tastes. I would say it's pretty much 50-50. To me, there is quality, and there is personnal tastes. These two, matched together, makes up the individuals we are, with our own personnal favorites.

Btw, from the list I've posted earlier, I'ves already checked out Bongzilla, Sculptured and Fleshgod Apocalypse albums and they are all great. The biggest surprise was Sculptured. I thought I wouldn't like it. But it's pretty good. I'd describe it as a mix of Progressive Melodic Death Metal, with some Experimental and Atmospheric parts (thanks to John Haughm :P). I like it. Anyone who isn't a complete hater of Melodeath should check them out.

At 12/19/10 05:40 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I lol'ed... Bring Me The Horizon, Parkway Drive, A Day To Remember. While I like some core bands, these are most likely never going to end up in my favorite bands ever ;)

Haha I never would have imagined myself really digging these bands a few years ago, but you'd be surprised where you end up in a few years in terms of musical expansion :p

Lot of things. Almost done with school :) I'll have much more time to give to Metal now :)
Gotta get my hands on Mafia EP by Fleshgod Apocalypse, and get to know the band Solefald, since everybody is talking about them !!

Fuck yeah Mafia is ridiculously good! Abyssal is an especially awesome song :D Solefald are great too I remember Sensey recommending them to me ages ago.

Newest Agalloch is great btw, you should definitely check them out. Looking at your charts, I see their is toooooo little Blood Red Throne in there. Gotta work on this bro :)

I should probably give BRT's discog a spin through sometime it's been a while.

Recently discovered Animals As Leaders, pretty much in love with it.

At 12/19/10 07:18 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Mafia EP by Fleshgod Apocalypse

Yes mate :D One of the best EP's I've ever heard imo :)

Amerijuanian by Bongzilla

Also good :P

At 12/20/10 12:59 AM, smeagol1 wrote: Dalnaki and I are not so different let him age a little bit and he will become a better member. Other wise Throw him in the fire.

Oh smeagol.

I lol'd

I'm really getting into Symphony X and Skinless at the moment, both excellent bands.

Symphony X - Domination

At 12/20/10 04:26 AM, Oppugnant wrote: Haha I never would have imagined myself really digging these bands a few years ago, but you'd be surprised where you end up in a few years in terms of musical expansion :p

I already know these bands though. Parkway Drive... Bring Me The Horizon... They really aren't my style. I could be anywhere, but probably not in Deathcore :P

Fuck yeah Mafia is ridiculously good! Abyssal is an especially awesome song :D Solefald are great too I remember Sensey recommending them to me ages ago.

It's kick ass. Not only can they make awesome music, but their music evolves in between albums :)

I should probably give BRT's discog a spin through sometime it's been a while.

Probably? Gotta do that real soon, motha fucka !

Recently discovered Animals As Leaders, pretty much in love with it.

Bought his album. It's alright I guess. But most of the songs are pretty much... meh. Not bad. Good riffs, good musicianship, but the song-writting is not so awesome.

At 12/20/10 05:06 AM, ZpLiNtEh wrote:

At 12/19/10 07:18 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Mafia EP by Fleshgod Apocalypse

Yes mate :D One of the best EP's I've ever heard imo :)

Agreed. All those songs rock, there's not really a single song on there that I don't enjoy, but I think Abyssal might take the prize of being the best Fleshgod Apocalypse song.

I'm really getting into Symphony X and Skinless at the moment, both excellent bands.

Symphony X - Domination

If you're getting into Symphony X, I suggest picking up The Odyssey or Divine Wings of Tragedy. Those are probably (IMO, of course) their two best albums. Odyssey is a bit heavier and more "metal," and DWoT is more proggy, but both are fantastic albums.

At 12/19/10 11:25 AM, Zodir wrote: NEWS! King Diamond has just undergone triple bypass heart surgery after suffering severe multiple heart attacks. He is currently resting at his home and recovering.

I can't believe I didn't hear about this beforehand. I sure as hell hope he gets better from this.

At 12/19/10 07:02 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'm not ready to go as far as banning Dalnaki from the Metal Hell. I'm tired of his constant attacks and insults towards fellow members of the Metal Hell.

I'm happy to give him another chance. If he can improve with his behaviour, he's more than welcome to stick around. We've had some bad users here who were warned about being kicked out and eventually turned for the better. I'm sure Dalnaki can do the same thing.

At 12/20/10 12:49 AM, Dalnaki wrote: that a metal fan should love all metal

I don't think any of us is expecting you to enjoy everything in metal. The most we ask for is a respective opinion on others. If you don't like a particular kind of metal, just leave it be. There are some genres of metal I'm not into right now but I don't think they suck. If anything, I might enjoy them a lot somewhere down the road.

At 12/20/10 08:37 AM, Zodir wrote: If you're getting into Symphony X, I suggest picking up The Odyssey or Divine Wings of Tragedy. Those are probably (IMO, of course) their two best albums. Odyssey is a bit heavier and more "metal," and DWoT is more proggy, but both are fantastic albums.

I've got their self-titled album, TDWoT and Paradise Lost atm but I'll get The Odyssey as well, cheers mate :P

As Blood Runs Black - My Fears Have Become Phobias

At 12/20/10 12:49 AM, Dalnaki wrote: I apologize for my douchebaggery, this isn't the first time I've caused a big fuss, and for that, I'm sorry. But. TheDaemonicPoet goes too far. Me? Not a fan of metal? Because I subscribe to elitism? I think I can see where he's going with this, that a metal fan should love all metal. But that is ridiculous, because some metal is objectively inferior.

I never concluded a metal fan should love all Metal. Because if I really thought that I wouldn't be a metal fan. How did you come up with that?

Also, and I'm repeating myself, you're annoying because you keep telling us that our knowledge in Metal is inferior to yours but you never explain why. And that makes you a dispensable member to the Hell, in my opinion. I don't care if you know more about Metal than me or any member in the Hell, but if you do, prove it. The topic was "Best voices in Metal", if you know enough about Metal to make a venerable list, just do it!

Thoughts on this album? Listening to it now for the first time and it's awesome.

At 12/20/10 11:45 AM, JaY11 wrote: Thoughts on this album? Listening to it now for the first time and it's awesome.

It's cool how they made a song about Castlevania.

At 12/20/10 11:52 AM, DeIirium wrote:

At 12/20/10 11:45 AM, JaY11 wrote: Thoughts on this album? Listening to it now for the first time and it's awesome.

It's cool how they made a song about Castlevania.

We discussed this a few weeks ago, I believe the consensus was still undecided.

At 12/19/10 06:13 PM, Zodir wrote: So, guys, remember when we were talking about Paramore? Well, apparently, they are breaking up or something.

They're not breaking up, but two of the band members are leaving the band.

At 12/20/10 12:32 PM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 12/20/10 11:52 AM, DeIirium wrote:

At 12/20/10 11:45 AM, JaY11 wrote: Thoughts on this album? Listening to it now for the first time and it's awesome.

It's cool how they made a song about Castlevania.

We discussed this a few weeks ago, I believe the consensus was still undecided.

Everybody agrees that Fleshgod Apocalypse's EP kicks ass though, right? I'm enjoying it way more than the full album they released.

At 12/20/10 03:39 PM, JaY11 wrote: Everybody agrees that Fleshgod Apocalypse's EP kicks ass though, right? I'm enjoying it way more than the full album they released.

Oh, no doubt. Mafia is kickass. "Abyssal" is my favorite track. The half-time feel of the riff in the beginning is awesome.

At 12/20/10 11:45 AM, JaY11 wrote: Thoughts on this album? Listening to it now for the first time and it's awesome.

Don't like it.

Well, since everyone seems to love Mafia a lot, I suggest we make it the Metal Hell's EP of the year. That's sure what it feels like to me. IT IS SO GOOD!

Last.fm's best of 2010 is depressing.

At 12/20/10 07:07 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Last.fm's best of 2010 is depressing.

I stopped caring about Last.fm's ratings when I saw Cradle of Filth as the number one black metal band.

Also in case there are still people who haven't listened to them lots of awesome links.
ET- Spoon Bender
ET- Nectars of Eden
ET- Opacity

Also Noumena
Song 1
Song 2

Dismember

Fucking listen.

At 12/20/10 11:45 AM, JaY11 wrote: Thoughts on this album? Listening to it now for the first time and it's awesome.

Love it to death, first song I heard by them was Deathmask Divine around 3/4 years ago and I've been hooked on them since, love all of their stuff, even their hilarious demo songs :)

Necropolis is a bit more technical thanks to their new geetarist, but I still think Miasma and Unhallowed are sexy as well.

fanboylolol

I've been really enjoying the albums Sagas by Equilibrium and Iron by Ensiferum

Especially with Iron since LastFM has been playing a lot more of it for me

At 12/20/10 07:46 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: I've been really enjoying the albums Sagas by Equilibrium and Iron by Ensiferum

Nice man, I've been listening to alot of Victory Songs and From Afar, I really underestimated Ensiferum, they're a damn good band.

At 12/20/10 04:18 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Oh, no doubt. Mafia is kickass. "Abyssal" is my favorite track. The half-time feel of the riff in the beginning is awesome.

I've had this EP for a while too, I love how absurdly fast the drums are. Abyssal is amazing, I really like their cover of Blinded by Fear, making the drums twice as fast as At the Gates' version.

Now this rant has a point :)

I bought Soulside Journey when I was 13 (About 4 and a half years ago) and it's absolute blandness, repetitiveness, and sub-quality has made me cringe at everything that sounds like it, all melodeath, all emocore, all those bands (Assuming we're in drop C like an emo) that fucking play a C, G sharp, A sharp progression or a variation of the three chords in every god damn fucking riff in every god damn fucking song.

Before chugging C for a breakdown and making me want to pop a cap in my face.

This is why most famous teen idol metalcore giants only have 3 or less albums/EPs. Because their songs are TOO DAMN SIMILAR.

I'm talking about BMTH and Amity Affliction and shitty bands like that, but they were all descended from At the Gates' Soulside Journey album.

Soulside Journey was almost complete filler. But Blinded by Fear's main riff is catchy as all hell.

So by covering a song by a shit band and making the song 10 times better, I fucking love Fleshgod Apocalypse.

TLDR:

Fleshgod Apoclypse made a shit song 10 times better, that's fucking cool.

Also, can't stop listening to the hilariously good new Solefald :)