Btw Xarnor, I forgot, you could introduce him to some better core bands. I know a lot of people in here who hate all metalcore, but that's not the case for me. And I think The Human Abstract, Protrest the Hero and I, Omega are pretty cool metalcore bands.

At 12/13/10 11:12 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: See, some artists and bands are created only for commercial purposes. And don't tell me I'm trying to see conspiracies everywhere... That's commercial music. These usually just fade away with time.

Fair enough, I'll give you that bands do fade away with time. Nu Metal being a good example. But they have left something of a legacy. Linkin Park, Papa Roach, KoRn, Slipknot, all these bands still get headlining slots at festivals for the nostalgia factor. There isn't anything new happening, but I don't like this attitude that this music is purely made for money. There are people who genuinely enjoy it (and they're not all 13 years olds and kids. Plenty of adults do too).
And as for your Emo bands, we don't know whether or not they'll fall away. Only time will tell. They probably will, but still.

You serious? You can't tell the difference between a community, sharing similarities... and teenage wanna-be rebellion?

A teenage wanna-be-rebellion that share similarities and hang out together in communities?

Urgh, if I keep replying this if going to go on forever. I'll cut it short and just say I think you're a snob :P.
But you'll grow out of it :).

At 12/14/10 02:28 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anyway, you guys will be giving or receiving any Metal gifts for Christmas this year?

Both, actually. I've already asked for seven albums for Christmas and my sister's list of CDs she wants is full of metal as well. I've already gotten her an album or two so it depends how the other members of my family can get them, even though I've offered help to get any CDs for her. Along with whatever albums we'll be getting for Christmas, I'll be sure to give a listen to what my dad gets, especially when he'll be getting Queen's The Game and Pink Floyd's Animals (I know they're not metal but it's more stuff to listen to over the holidays).

At 12/14/10 12:36 PM, Bahamut wrote:

Both, actually. I've already asked for seven albums for Christmas and my sister's list of CDs she wants is full of metal as well.

I'll be sure to give a listen to what my dad gets, especially when he'll be getting Queen's The Game and Pink Floyd's Animals

You have an awesome family :0 My dad is into Pink Floyd and all that jazz, but nobody in my family into metal.

At 12/14/10 01:03 AM, Xarnor wrote: Anyone know of a metal band that has a little bit simpler-than-average-heavy-metal drums that I could practice to?

Try this. lol.

At 12/14/10 02:28 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anyway, you guys will be giving or receiving any Metal gifts for Christmas this year?

A mic. It's metal because I'm going to record my shit with it, and learn how to growl.

Sorry for double post

At 12/13/10 07:03 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 12/13/10 06:29 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: I use skinny jeans D:< AS A THRASHER! Well not really a Thrasher, but it's metal...

i'm too skinny to not wear skinny jeans. if i wear normal-fit jeans, they just make me look skinnier 'cause they're so loose. i think tight-fitting clothes are more comfortable anyway.

I'm skinny too... And they sure are more comfortable except when you get a boner lol. And skinny jeans look better, normal-fit jeans make me look like a rapper.

On the topic of hair (hairy topic hurr durr). My hair only gets by my shoulders, and it's like a wavy almost straight but it curls in the end, and that's annoying.

At 12/14/10 02:15 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: I'm skinny too... And they sure are more comfortable except when you get a boner lol. And skinny jeans look better, normal-fit jeans make me look like a rapper.

God, I have this one pair of corduroy pants that are absurdly tight at the waist and crotch, but fit normally everywhere else. they give me a huge fucking bulge and whenever i'm hanging out with friends in those pants they always make fun of me for the watermelon in my pants.

Did you hear about the big four concerts next year?

At 12/14/10 02:15 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: I'm skinny too... And they sure are more comfortable except when you get a boner lol. And skinny jeans look better, normal-fit jeans make me look like a rapper.

I have a pair of skinny jeans, and my God do they chafe. I don't understand how men can wear them.

At 12/14/10 05:26 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

At 12/14/10 02:15 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote:

I have a pair of skinny jeans, and my God do they chafe. I don't understand how men can wear them.

Neither can I, my balls start to fuse to my inner thighs and I am fidgeting all day

But I guess it's easier if you're skinnier.

At 12/14/10 05:26 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

At 12/14/10 02:15 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: I'm skinny too... And they sure are more comfortable except when you get a boner lol. And skinny jeans look better, normal-fit jeans make me look like a rapper.

I have a pair of skinny jeans, and my God do they chafe. I don't understand how men can wear them.

Maybe you're using a number you shouldn't.

Hey just wondering what you guys would class Brocas Helm under, been listing to some of their music recently and Im really loving it.

At 12/14/10 05:37 PM, chubzilla100 wrote: Hey just wondering what you guys would class Brocas Helm under, been listing to some of their music recently and Im really loving it.

Easily traditional heavy metal just like Manilla Road and Slough Feg.

At 12/14/10 03:20 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anyway, I suggest you make them listen to some Christian Metal. If that doesn't change their views on Metal, nothing else will. Jacobs Dream makes some pretty good Power Metal, and they are Christians. I suggest you go to Metal Archives and search for Christianity in Lyrical Themes. You'll get hundreds of bands :)

Good Christian Metal? Believer. One of the most kickass thrash bands I've heard. I've been pushing them a lot, and I AM GOING TO REINFORCE IT DAMMIT! Plus they're coming out with a new album next year. So now is a good time to get into them!

At 12/14/10 02:28 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anyway, you guys will be giving or receiving any Metal gifts for Christmas this year?

I'm actually getting a drum set for christmas this year, never too late to pick up an instrument!
Other than that i'm not expecting anything else metal related but who knows.

I shan't be getting anything Metal related for Christmas. Unless pyjamas count as Metal. Which they should!

May be getting a vinyl player though. That'd be good. Though my collection of one currently lacks any brutality... Kate Bush's 'The Kick Inside'.

Still, Wuthering Heights :P.

So I just started listening to Helloween and I was like "This is my shit, I need more of this"

What would you recommended from Helloween and what bands are like them?

At 12/14/10 09:59 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: So I just started listening to Helloween and I was like "This is my shit, I need more of this"

What would you recommended from Helloween and what bands are like them?

If you like Helloween then you'll like power metal and speed metal. Gamma Ray (ex-Helloween vocalist!) and Blind Guardian are good places to start.

At 12/14/10 10:00 AM, Nev wrote:

At 12/13/10 11:12 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: See, some artists and bands are created only for commercial purposes. And don't tell me I'm trying to see conspiracies everywhere... That's commercial music. These usually just fade away with time.

Fair enough, I'll give you that bands do fade away with time. Nu Metal being a good example. But they have left something of a legacy. Linkin Park, Papa Roach, KoRn, Slipknot, all these bands still get headlining slots at festivals for the nostalgia factor. There isn't anything new happening, but I don't like this attitude that this music is purely made for money. There are people who genuinely enjoy it (and they're not all 13 years olds and kids. Plenty of adults do too).
And as for your Emo bands, we don't know whether or not they'll fall away. Only time will tell. They probably will, but still.

I wouldn't say Nu-Metal is a trend. The silly trends in core like... Hello Kitty is awesome this week, next week black painted nails will be awesome. This week it's all about putting some electronic music during our chug-chug riffs. Next week it's going to be about pig-squeals...

Btw, even adults follow trends. It doesn't mean that these will not just fade out has fast.

You serious? You can't tell the difference between a community, sharing similarities... and teenage wanna-be rebellion?

A teenage wanna-be-rebellion that share similarities and hang out together in communities?

Yup! A community that will fade with time :P I guess. I may not be using the proper words... I'm talking about something that is in your personality, an identity... or... dunno how to say it. But I doubt these kids will have emo fringes for their entire life. Emo music being mostly made for teenagers (lyrical themes, looks, etc) is not something that will live on forever, since these kids will eventually grow up. Maybe some other kids will replace them... I dunno.

Urgh, if I keep replying this if going to go on forever. I'll cut it short and just say I think you're a snob :P.
But you'll grow out of it :).

And you won't :(

At 12/14/10 02:13 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote:

At 12/14/10 02:28 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anyway, you guys will be giving or receiving any Metal gifts for Christmas this year?

A mic. It's metal because I'm going to record my shit with it, and learn how to growl.

One of my friends told me I was the only guy he knew who could do metal vocals properly :)

At 12/14/10 07:55 PM, 6Imm6ortal6 wrote:

At 12/14/10 02:28 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anyway, you guys will be giving or receiving any Metal gifts for Christmas this year?

I'm actually getting a drum set for christmas this year, never too late to pick up an instrument!
Other than that i'm not expecting anything else metal related but who knows.

If you don't get a double-kick it's not metal >:(

At 12/14/10 09:59 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: So I just started listening to Helloween and I was like "This is my shit, I need more of this"

What would you recommended from Helloween and what bands are like them?

Keeper of the Seven Keys Part 1
Keeper of the Seven Keys Part 2
Gambling With The Devil

As for bands, I don't know. Denta suggested you listen to GammaRay. I have to go with that two, though they are way too fucking cheesy... Some of their stuff is still fucking awesome :)

I also suggest you listen to some Voyager. These guys are awesome :)

At 12/14/10 07:55 PM, 6Imm6ortal6 wrote: I'm actually getting a drum set for christmas this year, never too late to pick up an instrument!

Other than that i'm not expecting anything else metal related but who knows.

You have no idea how jealous I am... I would buy a drum set myself if I had the money or room for it. I live in a tiny apartment and I don't even have a job right now...

Anyway, I might start playing the bass. My brother is selling his bass guitar (he never used it), and I'll probably get it pretty cheap since I'm his sister and all. Do any of you know how much a bass guitar usually costs?

At 12/14/10 02:28 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anyway, you guys will be giving or receiving any Metal gifts for Christmas this year?

I wrote a list of about 30 CDs (not all metal) I want, and some t-shirts. That's all I want for Christmas. I have everything else I need (or want) that isn't too expensive.

At 12/14/10 09:59 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: So I just started listening to Helloween and I was like "This is my shit, I need more of this"

High five! Helloween have a lot of awesome stuff, even in the Deris-era which gets shunted by many listeners. It's understandable why some aren't fond of Deris' vocals but Helloween can still write good songs without Hansen and Kiske.

What would you recommended from Helloween and what bands are like them?

Dent may have mentioned Gamma Ray already but I have to agree with that TWICE! It doesn't get any better than them for similarities, especially when the frontman Kai Hansen was in Helloween. Be sure to check them out when you can! Awesome songs from Gamma Ray include Rebellion in Dreamland, Man on a Mission, Somewhere Out in Space, Armageddon, Hand of Fate and many more.

You guys don't discuss enough about Moonspell.

At 12/14/10 09:59 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: What would you recommended from Helloween?

Unarmed is considered by most to be their best album.

At 12/15/10 01:49 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

At 12/14/10 09:59 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: What would you recommended from Helloween?

Unarmed is considered by most to be their best album.

I call bullshit, even if it's sarcasm. This album must be avoided like the plague.

Except for The Keeper's Trilogy which is alright.

Something obviously went wrong somewhere in between

Future World (1987)
Future World (2010)

Strange how you can make Helloween sound like the Jonas Brothers...

At 12/15/10 05:10 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Strange how you can make Helloween sound like the Jonas Brothers...

The fact that I put "You are now listening to Radio Disney" on my review summary for the album says it all. At least they went back to METAL with 7 Sinners as they should be playing and not acoustic pop garbage. The latest one isn't one of Helloween's best but it's 10000x better than Unarmed. Hell, even Chameleon is tons better than Unarmed.

At 12/15/10 05:48 PM, Bahamut wrote:

At 12/15/10 05:10 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Strange how you can make Helloween sound like the Jonas Brothers...

The fact that I put "You are now listening to Radio Disney" on my review summary for the album says it all. At least they went back to METAL with 7 Sinners as they should be playing and not acoustic pop garbage. The latest one isn't one of Helloween's best but it's 10000x better than Unarmed. Hell, even Chameleon is tons better than Unarmed.

I know I couldn't write a review for this album... as I do not really understand what happenned. The idea of recording music like this is not bad...

I mean, if any other artist would have released an album of that genre of music, I really wouldn't mind, but the fact that this is Helloween and that they are just ruinning some of their best tracks is what is getting the most to me... like... wtf...

I Want Out is definitely the worst... It seems that the more I like the original song, the more I will hate the remake on Unarmed...

At 12/15/10 05:10 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Something obviously went wrong somewhere in between

Future World (1987)
Future World (2010)

Strange how you can make Helloween sound like the Jonas Brothers...

Wow I really didn't need to hear the second version, I really like the original though.

Also, Bahamut your level icon with the little santa hat has made this season 10x more enjoyable haha.

At 12/15/10 05:56 PM, 6Imm6ortal6 wrote: Also, Bahamut your level icon with the little santa hat has made this season 10x more enjoyable haha.

Yah, most other icons just look like someone jizzed on em...

At 12/15/10 06:32 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 12/15/10 05:56 PM, 6Imm6ortal6 wrote: Also, Bahamut your level icon with the little santa hat has made this season 10x more enjoyable haha.

Yah, most other icons just look like someone jizzed on em...

Yeah now that I think about it mine looks like I just gave a handjob.

Gay.