Thats Pop-Punk.

At 11/29/10 07:08 PM, Nev wrote: Thats Pop-Punk.

You can't deny the big difference between early punk bands and what we now call punk rock. These genres are very different. If you ask any Punk fan about bands such as Sum 41 and Blink-182, he'll tell you that these are not Punk bands. So I don't think the Pop-Punk classification is appropriate either.

At 11/29/10 07:12 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: You can't deny the big difference between early punk bands and what we now call punk rock. These genres are very different. If you ask any Punk fan about bands such as Sum 41 and Blink-182, he'll tell you that these are not Punk bands. So I don't think the Pop-Punk classification is appropriate either.

I'm not denying the difference. But that new stuff is considered Pop-Punk. Where as the genuine stuff is considered Punk Rock. The only thing we're differing on is our terms.

Take it easy, Duff. We're not here to pick on you for making a joke but merely expressing thoughts that one of the Metal Hell's members' actions elsewhere isn't that much of a big deal to us. I'd only think less of anyone here if they were harassing anyone I know or I caught them posting child porn (god forbid).

At 11/29/10 08:32 PM, Bahamut wrote: I'd only think less of anyone here if they were harassing anyone I know or I caught them posting child porn (god forbid).

What if they tried to burn down a school :P?

Sirtom posted here right?

Anyone else listen to Worship, pretty great funeral doom.
Have a listen to this Dooom.

1. Forever in Terror
2. Darkest Hour
3. Chimaira
4. Amon Amarth
5. Daath
6. Death (R.I.P. Chuck Schuldiner)
7. Slipknot (R.I.P. Paul Grey)
8. Vader
9. Dimmu Borgir
10. Metallica

At 11/29/10 09:41 PM, Sephiroth909 wrote: 1. Forever in Terror
2. Darkest Hour
3. Chimaira
4. Amon Amarth
5. Daath
6. Death (R.I.P. Chuck Schuldiner)
7. Slipknot (R.I.P. Paul Grey)
8. Vader
9. Dimmu Borgir
10. Metallica

Chimaira and Slipknot aren't really considered metal, im not sure about Forever in Terror or Darkest Hour never heard them. The rest looks pretty decent to me.
Other than that just wait for a horseman to judge your list.

At 11/29/10 07:00 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Is it me or there is a confusion between Punk and Punk Rock.

Punk and punk rock are the same things. "Punk rock" was the first term to be coined (it was created in a review of the song "96 Tears" by ? and the Mysterians), and "punk" is a shortening of "punk rock." Punk evolved into hardcore, pop-punk, skate punk, folk punk, anarcho punk, ska punk, crust punk, and so on.

At 11/29/10 10:04 PM, 6Imm6ortal6 wrote:

At 11/29/10 09:41 PM, Sephiroth909 wrote: 1. Forever in Terror
2. Darkest Hour
3. Chimaira
4. Amon Amarth
5. Daath
6. Death (R.I.P. Chuck Schuldiner)
7. Slipknot (R.I.P. Paul Grey)
8. Vader
9. Dimmu Borgir
10. Metallica

Chimaira and Slipknot aren't really considered metal, im not sure about Forever in Terror or Darkest Hour never heard them. The rest looks pretty decent to me.
Other than that just wait for a horseman to judge your list.

Okay, Slipknot varies a lot, I could understand that.
Chimaira, eh...so far, I've only listened to one album (Infected) and it seems pretty metal to me.
Forever in Terror is a Deathcore/Metalcore band.
Darkest Hour is a Melodic Death Metal/Metalcore band.

oh nooooooo.... it's sephiroooooth.......

Speaking of punk rock, I watched a lot of live Ramones yesterday, I adore them.

If anyone wants to get into Ramones, these songs rule:

Teenage Lobotomy
Commando
Pinhead
Rockaway Beach
Cretin Hop

I prefer the term "Bubblegum Punk" to describe Ramones. They're so influenced by pop music.

Their singer is a freak, with a terrific voice. I really like Johnny Ramone, the guitarist. Fucking cool style, looks awesome on stage, and I like how when he plays you see a blur of knuckles.

Anyone like Thy Art Is Murder?

At 11/29/10 08:32 PM, Bahamut wrote: Take it easy, Duff. We're not here to pick on you for making a joke but merely expressing thoughts that one of the Metal Hell's members' actions elsewhere isn't that much of a big deal to us. I'd only think less of anyone here if they were harassing anyone I know or I caught them posting child porn (god forbid).

Well, you definitely didn't get understand my intentions. I get along just fine with Dalnaki and I thought what he did was pretty funny, actually. I was not pissed or anything. I just thought I could mention that one of our members picked a fight with the frontman of a band, which also happens to be one of my favorite bands.

At 11/29/10 09:41 PM, Sephiroth909 wrote: 1. Forever in Terror
2. Darkest Hour
3. Chimaira
4. Amon Amarth
5. Daath
6. Death (R.I.P. Chuck Schuldiner)
7. Slipknot (R.I.P. Paul Grey)
8. Vader
9. Dimmu Borgir
10. Metallica

As it was previously mentionned by Immortal, Slipknot are not Metal, and some of the bands you mentionned are inbetween core and metal. The Metal Hell isn't really a welcoming place to metalcore and nu-metal bands. So far, you have Amon Amarth, Daath, Death, Vader, Dimmu Borgir, Metallica and I say Darkest Hour would also count as one. That is 7 bands out of ten. You can join the Metal Hell, but it would be cool if you could add 3 or 4 other bands name to your next post.

At 11/30/10 12:42 AM, Keegz wrote: Anyone like Thy Art Is Murder?

I think they are pathetic. Why?

Some other bands I like are Trivium, Slayer, Pantera, All That Remains, Dark Tranquility, In Flames, and Becoming the Archetype. :D

At 11/30/10 07:24 AM, Sephiroth909 wrote: Some other bands I like are Trivium, Slayer, Pantera, All That Remains, Dark Tranquility, In Flames, and Becoming the Archetype. :D

You should just get out.

And never come back.

Not metal, but metal enough! HAPPY BIRTHDAY BILLY IDOL!

At 11/30/10 09:05 AM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 11/30/10 07:24 AM, Sephiroth909 wrote: Some other bands I like are Trivium, Slayer, Pantera, All That Remains, Dark Tranquility, In Flames, and Becoming the Archetype. :D

You should just get out.

And never come back.

You should just shut up.

And never say anything again.

At 11/30/10 07:24 AM, Sephiroth909 wrote: Some other bands I like are Trivium, Slayer, Pantera, All That Remains, Dark Tranquility, In Flames, and Becoming the Archetype. :D

Hahaha brootal man, but you're a bit too brootal for this club though, you should probably just get out of here :D

At 11/30/10 09:47 AM, PenisClown wrote:

At 11/30/10 07:24 AM, Sephiroth909 wrote: Some other bands I like are Trivium, Slayer, Pantera, All That Remains, Dark Tranquility, In Flames, and Becoming the Archetype. :D

Hahaha brootal man, but you're a bit too brootal for this club though, you should probably just get out of here :D

Give him a break, when I first came here I thought core was metal but you brainwashed me. Also he says in his profile "My favorite guitarist is Chuck Schuldiner." So he must be a fine guy.

At 11/29/10 08:49 PM, Nev wrote: What if they tried to burn down a school :P?

Sirtom posted here right?

Haha, I should have remembered that. Any sane user's respect for him went down the drain that day.

At 11/29/10 09:41 PM, Sephiroth909 wrote: 1. Forever in Terror
2. Darkest Hour

Can't say much for these bands. Slipknot and Chimaira are a no but the rest I'm fine with. Well, for your application post anyway.

At 11/30/10 07:24 AM, Sephiroth909 wrote: Some other bands I like are Trivium, Slayer, Pantera, All That Remains, Dark Tranquility, In Flames, and Becoming the Archetype. :D

I give a thumbs up to Pantera, Dark Tranquility and In Flames. Can't say the same thing for Trivium or All That Remains, though. Still, I'm cool with you posting around here and we're willing to provide you new bands to check out.

At 11/29/10 10:40 PM, PenisClown wrote: oh nooooooo.... it's sephiroooooth.......

Meh, Kefka is better.

At 11/30/10 01:27 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: just thought I could mention that one of our members picked a fight with the frontman of a band, which also happens to be one of my favorite bands.

I thought that situation was odd. For all I knew, it could have been anyone. I'm glad we settled this, even though my thoughts on what others do elsewhere remains intact.

At 11/30/10 09:47 AM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote:

At 11/30/10 09:05 AM, Dalnaki wrote: You should just get out.

And never come back.

You should just shut up.

And never say anything again.

I got a chuckle from your post.

At 11/30/10 10:00 AM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Give him a break, when I first came here I thought core was metal but you brainwashed me. Also he says in his profile "My favorite guitarist is Chuck Schuldiner." So he must be a fine guy.

But but his name! It derives from a crappy Final Fantasy game!

So....am I in or not?
Sephiroth pwn's Kefka, but Zack is best out of them all *smirk* haha.

At 11/30/10 07:24 AM, Sephiroth909 wrote: Some other bands I like are Trivium, Slayer, Pantera, All That Remains, Dark Tranquility, In Flames, and Becoming the Archetype. :D

Trivium and All That Remains are Metalcore bands. Tell me... you do know that metalcore and metal are different genres... right?

If you really wish to join the Metal Hell, it's fine, but I think you will have and hard time following most of the discussions in here, as your list is something like 90% Metalcore/Melodic Death Metal, with a few exceptions as for the older bands you mentionned... Metallica, Pantera, Slayer... Anyway. Welcome in.

At 11/30/10 03:10 PM, Sephiroth909 wrote: So....am I in or not?
Sephiroth pwn's Kefka, but Zack is best out of them all *smirk* haha.

You are. But I suggest you lurk around the Metal Hell's history so you get to learn of other metal genres. Otherwise you won't have much fun in here :P

At 11/29/10 07:00 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Is it me or there is a confusion between Punk and Punk Rock.

That's like saying "is it just me or are heavy metal and metal different genres?"

"Punk" is the overviewing term for the whole genre, it's just also referred to as punk rock. Metal is the term is the overviewing term for the whole genre, it's just also referred to as heavy metal. (Traditional metal is stuff like maiden, not heavy metal)

Also stuff like The Offspring isn't real punk, it's shittie and way closer to pop.

At 11/30/10 01:27 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: and I say Darkest Hour would also count as one.

What? NO THEY ARE NOT METAL. With the sole exception of Death and old In Flames, that entire list he listed was either shit or not metal. (including the bands he posted later)

What's next? You're going to allow people in that listen to veil of maya and periphery?

jesus.

At 11/29/10 06:08 PM, SomaGuye wrote: Death and Black evolved completely independently from Thrash, hell they didn't even start on the same continent.

...you're fucking retarded.

Because the first death metal bands - Possessed, Death, Obituary, Cannibal Corpse, Vital Remains, Morbid Angel, Hypocrisy, Malevolent Creation, Deicide, Six Feet Under, Sepultura, Vader, etc, etc. all obviously didn't start off as borderline thrash...

And you know the first black metal bands like Bathory, Celtic Frost and Hellhammer? Yeah, they weren't thrash influenced at all. Nope.

And what do you mean by same continent? The United States, Canada, Brazil, the UK, Germany and Australia all had thrash/oldschool death metal scenes in the 80's...

Also, power metal came from thrash as well. Helloween, Blind Guardian, Stratovarius, Iced Earth, Grave Digger, Virgin Steele, etc. all started off from thrash as well.

In the 80's ALL this stuff(thrash metal, oldschool black metal, oldschool power metal, oldschool grindcore and oldschool death metal) all were considered one thing: The Thrash Metal movement

It wasn't until around 1992 or 1993 that people started separating the names of genres. (power metal wasn't a term that became legit till like 1998 or 1999, folk metal only came into terminology around 2004 or 2005)

At 11/28/10 08:04 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Part 1: Scars Of The Shattered Sky (Our Fortress Has Burned To The Ground)
Part 2: Scars Of The Shattered Sky (Our Fortress Has Burned To The Ground)

Agalloch FTW.

At 11/28/10 12:40 PM, Zodir wrote: Sorry for the double post, but just found this out. Wintersun's Time album may finally be out in the near future!

It's a trap, I don't believe it.

At 11/27/10 10:47 AM, SomaGuye wrote: AHH FUCK. Both Evile and Nile are playing here on the 13th of February, I want to see both of them damn it how could they do this to me.

Dude, Nile - easily.

Favorite (metal) bands:
Anthrax
Black Sabbath
Dio
Dream Theater
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
King Diamond
Kvelertak
Megadeth
Mercyful Fate
Metallica
Motörhead
Pantera
Slayer
The Sword

If someone could recommend me some bands, that would be great. :)

At 11/30/10 03:35 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 11/30/10 01:27 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: and I say Darkest Hour would also count as one.

What? NO THEY ARE NOT METAL. With the sole exception of Death and old In Flames, that entire list he listed was either shit or not metal. (including the bands he posted later)

What's next? You're going to allow people in that listen to veil of maya and periphery?

Amon Amarth, Daath, Death, Vader, Dimmu Borgir, Metallica, Slayer, Pantera, In Flames and Dark Tranquility are all proper Metal bands. You cannot deny it. So that is ten bands. However, we have fans of every single of these bands here in the Metal Hell already, with the exception maybe... of Pantera. The Four Hosemen are not here to determine if bands are good or bad, we are here to let those who listen to Metal, join the Hell if they have enough Metal bands in their library. End of the story.

jesus.

joseph

At 11/30/10 03:36 PM, K2LU wrote: Favorite (metal) bands:
Anthrax
Black Sabbath
Dio
Dream Theater
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
King Diamond
Kvelertak
Megadeth
Mercyful Fate
Metallica
Motörhead
Pantera
Slayer
The Sword

If someone could recommend me some bands, that would be great. :)

Welcome to the Metal Hell.

Going through your list, I see that you like Thrash Metal a lot. Here are some suggestions: Kreator, Sodom, Testament, Exodus and Overkill.

I also suggest you listen to Morbid Saint and Death.

If you like Dream Theater I suggest you listen to some other Progressive Metal, like Liquid Tension Experiment, Cynic and Symphony X

At 11/30/10 03:36 PM, K2LU wrote: If someone could recommend me some bands, that would be great. :)

I see you like Metallica. You would be interested in checking out Diamond Head, Avenger (UK), Blitzkrieg (UK), Raven, Chateaux, and Atomkraft. These are all NWOBHM bands that Metallica ripped off.

Welcome to the Metal Hell.

Going through your list, I see that you like Thrash Metal a lot. Here are some suggestions: Kreator, Sodom, Testament, Exodus and Overkill.

I also suggest you listen to Morbid Saint and Death.

If you like Dream Theater I suggest you listen to some other Progressive Metal, like Liquid Tension Experiment, Cynic and Symphony X

Thanks a lot. I'll definitely check out those bands. I am relatively new to the metal scene, so I haven't heard of all of those bands. And yes, I do like thrash metal a lot.

At 11/30/10 04:00 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 11/30/10 03:36 PM, K2LU wrote: If someone could recommend me some bands, that would be great. :)

I see you like Metallica. You would be interested in checking out Diamond Head, Avenger (UK), Blitzkrieg (UK), Raven, Chateaux, and Atomkraft. These are all NWOBHM bands that Metallica ripped off.

Thanks! Yeah, I've heard of Diamond Head since Metallica often plays one of their songs live as well as it being on their cover album.

At 11/29/10 10:40 PM, PenisClown wrote: If anyone wants to get into Ramones, these songs rule:

I think you'll find its all about My Brain is Hanging Upside Down.

At 11/30/10 03:10 PM, Sephiroth909 wrote: So....am I in or not?

You're in but you'd do well to check out some of the bands we've been mentioning.

got the new Solefald and Agalloch albums.