At 11/15/10 08:43 PM, Bonemill wrote: Every time I listen to them I feel like I should be in "Airheads" or "Biodome". Its almost comical.
Really, sadistic magician? I mean when you listen to the lyrics of that song its like watching a bad episode of law and order.

They do this amazing thing that so many other bands forget to do, called 'have fun', so their songs, lyrics and album covers are random and amusing :)

But of course there is always a chance that I have just not listened to one of their good songs. Ive never really sought them out to give them a chance.

I fuckin love Municipal Waste, so here you go, give these songs a listen.

Knife Fight
Blood Hunger
Deathripper
Abusement Park
The Art Of Partying
The Inebriator
Open Your Mind
Masked By Delirium
Massive Aggressive
Wolves Of Chernobyl
Wrong Answer

There you go, songs from each album, bear in mind earlier songs are more Crossover Thrash, so much more raw when compared to stuff from TAoP or MA.

You're welcome :)

I found this progressive metal band called Into Eternity. They have a little bit of power metal, death metal, and black metal and swirl it together in this great mix. I suggest checking them out.

At 11/15/10 08:43 PM, Bonemill wrote: Municipal Waste is exactly that.

Every time I listen to them I feel like I should be in "Airheads" or "Biodome". Its almost comical.

Really, sadistic magician? I mean when you listen to the lyrics of that song its like watching a bad episode of law and order.

But of course there is always a chance that I have just not listened to one of their good songs. Ive never really sought them out to give them a chance.

I love Municipal Waste, they dont write lyrics with some deep meaning if that's what your looking for.

I'm not a huge fan of the song Sadistic Magician either so I agree with you there, but if your gonna give them more of a shot listen to Beer Pressure or The Art Of Partying

Also they were fun as hell to see live.

At 11/14/10 04:25 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 11/14/10 12:48 AM, hypersomniax wrote: Any word on Obscura's new album?

I think it's pretty cool. I went through it once or twice. Only thing I don't like about it, is that the bass is not recorded loud enough. And to be honest, the bass is the main reason I wanted to get into their work.

You're not talking about Retribution, are you? Because that's just a remastered version of their first album. They're recording a new one which is supposed to be out this year.
Of course, if it IS out, I can't find it.

At 11/15/10 08:43 PM, Bonemill wrote: Municipal Waste is exactly that.

But of course there is always a chance that I have just not listened to one of their good songs. Ive never really sought them out to give them a chance.

All Municipal Waste is good. Except Sadistic Magician. Listen to anything and everything off of Hazardous Mutation and you're sweet. They sort of tried taking it somewhere different on their new album, so I'd keep that in mind when listening to it. Other than that, Hazardous Mutation and Art Of Partying are full of awesome.

y'all are tripping, i like sadistic magician.

on the subject of municipal waste, you guys need to check out their split EP with crucial unit, that's some good crossover right there.

At 11/15/10 08:23 PM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: It's not like that here, the music scene in Norwich is primarily all about crappy generic pop punk/screamo/metalcore and hardcore bands, but when a proper metal band comes along and people start hardcore dancing in the pit, I die a little inside :|

Dude, that's what the music scene here is mainly too. Like I said, P.O.S.E.R.S.

Alestorm aren't that good anyway.

That's my view on Amon Amarth.

I noticed you seem more fixated on the fans of these bands than the actual music,

Not really, but they bring a band down even further. I legitimately hate the fact I love Dream Theater because their fans suck so much.

I understand that maybe where you live everyone might be a faggot scenekid trend-hopper, but luckily where I live there is a good metal scene going on. It's awesome to see people wearing Anvil and Suicidal Tendancies shirts and the jean jackets with patches of Municipal Waste and Black Sabbath on :)

There's a good metal scene here as well, it's just that there's also a way bigger poser fanbase here.

All those kids that like metalcore/deathcore/screamo? Yeah most of them also enjoy In Flames, At The Gates, Arch Enemy, Amon Amarth, Scar Symmetry, Soilwork and of course, Children Of Bodom.

In fact, i've met WAAAAAAY more corekids that like those bands than TRUE metalheads.

At 11/15/10 08:58 PM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: I fuckin love Municipal Waste, so here you go, give these songs a listen.

Also: The Art Of Partying and Born To Party, because they're both classics.

There you go, songs from each album, bear in mind earlier songs are more Crossover Thrash, so much more raw when compared to stuff from TAoP or MA.

"Crossover thrash" is really just code name for "Punk with metal influences" but whatever.

At 11/15/10 08:58 PM, Zodir wrote: I found this progressive metal band called Into Eternity. They have a little bit of power metal, death metal, and black metal and swirl it together in this great mix. I suggest checking them out.

They're melodic death metal, but unlike all the shittie bands we've been talking about, they're actually good and their fanbase isn't ENTIRELY posers.

You might also like The Absence.

At 11/15/10 09:41 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: y'all are tripping, i like sadistic magician.

Same.

on the subject of municipal waste, you guys need to check out D.R.I. because they're like municipal waste only waaaaaaaaaay better.

WHY I AGREE, MY GOOD SIR.

At 11/15/10 01:51 PM, Nev wrote: Have you ever heard of Muhammed Ali? He was as arrogant as they come. And he's a legend. It's called having confidence and character.
No one cares about the boring people who play everything safe.

No... It's not the way it works. Someone who's good at what he does is a hundred times better if he's humble. Being a pretentious and over-confident is not something you should aim for. Usually, people who are over-confident, will take a big drop whenever they face defeat or difficulties in their lives, because they cannot accept that they are not that awesome. Someone who knows his own weaknesses and how to get better, is always a way better artist (or whatever you like) than the pretentious asshole. Ali was good, but it's not all arrogant guys who do well in life. You just mentionned one example.

At 11/15/10 09:03 PM, hypersomniax wrote:

At 11/14/10 04:25 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 11/14/10 12:48 AM, hypersomniax wrote: Any word on Obscura's new album?

I think it's pretty cool. I went through it once or twice. Only thing I don't like about it, is that the bass is not recorded loud enough. And to be honest, the bass is the main reason I wanted to get into their work.

You're not talking about Retribution, are you? Because that's just a remastered version of their first album. They're recording a new one which is supposed to be out this year.
Of course, if it IS out, I can't find it.

Which Obscura are you talking about? The Deutch Progressive Technical Death Metal band? Cause they released Cosmogenesis in 2009. If you are not talking about these guys, than I have no idea who you are talking about :P

At 11/15/10 08:58 PM, Zodir wrote: I found this progressive metal band called Into Eternity. They have a little bit of power metal, death metal, and black metal and swirl it together in this great mix. I suggest checking them out.

Sounds like something I'd like, thanks. I will.

At 11/15/10 08:58 PM, Zodir wrote: I found this progressive metal band called Into Eternity. They have a little bit of power metal, death metal, and black metal and swirl it together in this great mix. I suggest checking them out.

I second this notion of checking them out. Had them in my library for quite some time.

At 11/15/10 09:50 PM, AniMetal wrote: All those kids that like metalcore/deathcore/screamo? Yeah most of them also enjoy In Flames, At The Gates, Arch Enemy, Amon Amarth, Scar Symmetry, Soilwork and of course, Children Of Bodom.

In fact, i've met WAAAAAAY more corekids that like those bands than TRUE metalheads.

Sad but true... Some of my friends are exactly like this. Funniest part is that they like all the bands you just listed...

<----- METAL!

Is it wrong for me to enjoy Amon Amarth's latest album? Maybe it's their most accessible album but even so, I thought it was still a great album.

In other news, Motörhead's show is tonight and I cannot wait any longer. I just need to get through work first and then I can go and enjoy Lemmy rocking out on stage.

At 11/15/10 07:00 PM, Bonemill wrote: I thank you good sir. I do have time now, I recently have just been getting all my stuff together job and home wise, im 19 had to get out on my own. All worked out pretty well though, I got a job as a general mechanic at a hospital makin bout 15 an hour for now and got my own place and am in the process of getting my own martial art recognized and best of all still playing my music.

I'd say you're doing better than me right now. You're 19 and you've moved out while I'm 20 and still with my parents.

So how is everyone fill me in.

Just metal as always. We've got some new faces but we still have the old-timers such as Nev, Dent and Duff.

At 11/15/10 09:50 PM, AniMetal wrote: Dude, that's what the music scene here is mainly too. Like I said, P.O.S.E.R.S.

Fair enough

That's my view on Amon Amarth.

If you don't like AA that much why are you discussing them?

Not really, but they bring a band down even further. I legitimately hate the fact I love Dream Theater because their fans suck so much.

You are! Right after saying you're not you mention the fans again. Just because a band has a mostly shitty fanbase it doesn't mean the band sucks, hell most of the scenekids only find out about proper metal bands because of MySpace, listen to 2 songs then declare their love for them. Leave 'em to it, they wouldn't know good metal if it reached up and tore their bollocks off.

There's a good metal scene here as well, it's just that there's also a way bigger poser fanbase here. All those kids that like metalcore/deathcore/screamo? Yeah most of them also enjoy In Flames, At The Gates, Arch Enemy, Amon Amarth, Scar Symmetry, Soilwork and of course, Children Of Bodom.

I've only heard songs by most of those bands because of related videos in Youtube, it happens to everyone, and I have a broad taste in music so I don't really care if a band has a 'metalcore sounding name' and give it a listen regardless. Along with pretty much everyone else who watches a video of a band they like, gets curious about the related videos, and ends up liking a new band. It's not always because they're posers and want to pretend to have good taste in metal, regardless of how they look, I mean I wear random band shirts (iwrestledabearonce, All That Remains, CoB etc.) and basically have an emo fringe, but am a huge metalhead.

You should give people the benefit of the doubt.

"Crossover thrash" is really just code name for "Punk with metal influences" but whatever.

Meh, crossover thrash sounds cooler xD

ugh I hope that made sense, got a headache writing that, I should wake up earlier

At 11/15/10 12:08 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 11/14/10 11:43 PM, PenisClown wrote: Necrobutcher isn't a fag, he's a drunk! When you're in a band, it's important to have pride and talk yourself up. Mayhem slay most bands out there. And they've been around the block.

Trusting in your own skills =/= being a pretentious fag

Don't be hatin' every which way :D

I really need to ask you a question Ponos, how can you determine which band is the best metal band in the world?

Ah that's easy. They sound better than every other metal band to you, the individual.

But I really think BM needs to grow up from that "Fuck it all" behavior.

Fuck you, eh.

At 11/15/10 01:51 PM, Nev wrote:

At 11/14/10 10:16 AM, PenisClown wrote: Oh you absolute woman.

Pfft, you know nothing. Cider is a drink for real men. Get your arse over to the West Country and meet some of the crazy English fucks who've drank themselves to brain damage on proper cider.

Well, of course. I've gotten so drunk on cider I pissed in an ugg boot. True story :D

I'm just teasing you because my 50 year old mother drinks it.

I'm chillin' out to WEEDEATER bitches.

And holy shit, I've had Black Cobra's album for ages and I didn't know they were a two piece. I've seen ads for their live shows, they must have session members then?

At 11/16/10 08:30 AM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: It's not always because they're posers and want to pretend to have good taste in metal,

But you know, it usually is. So what ifs are irrelevant because of how rare the exceptions are.

regardless of how they look, I mean I wear random band shirts (iwrestledabearonce, All That Remains, CoB etc.) and basically have an emo fringe, but am a huge metalhead.

So you're basically a scene kid who is also a metalhead? Good for you. That doesn't redeem you, though. You're still a scene kid.

I have a broad taste in music so I don't really care if a band has a 'metalcore sounding name' and give it a listen regardless.

A willingness to try out shit, even though it's blatantly shit doesn't make you openminded. It just makes you someone who likes to roll around in shit. Also, a lot of people say they're "broad minded" when it comes to music. It's actually a bit of a cop out, because of how generic it is and how often people say it. So your broadmindedness doesn't amount to much.

You should give people the benefit of the doubt.

It's actually best to assume first, then ask questions later. You'll be disappointed less and won't trick yourself into thinking a kid with a shitty taste in metal who knows one good band might not have such a shitty taste and may just be holding out on you, when in reality, that kid is a faggot who listens to shitty metal and got the band off Brutal Legend.

At 11/16/10 07:56 AM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 11/16/10 04:26 AM, Bahamut wrote: <----- METAL!

Jealous >:(

Don't worry, it'll be yours someday.

At 11/16/10 09:53 AM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 11/16/10 08:30 AM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: regardless of how they look, I mean I wear random band shirts (iwrestledabearonce, All That Remains, CoB etc.) and basically have an emo fringe, but am a huge metalhead.

So you're basically a scene kid who is also a metalhead? Good for you. That doesn't redeem you, though. You're still a scene kid.

You know, I don't care if someone listens to "scene" bands. If they enjoy them, more power to them. It's not our cup of tea but at least someone like ZpLiNtEh enjoys genuine metal music.

that kid is a faggot

You might want to lay off with using the word faggot like that.

At 11/15/10 09:03 PM, hypersomniax wrote:

At 11/14/10 04:25 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 11/14/10 12:48 AM, hypersomniax wrote: Any word on Obscura's new album?

I think it's pretty cool. I went through it once or twice. Only thing I don't like about it, is that the bass is not recorded loud enough. And to be honest, the bass is the main reason I wanted to get into their work.

You're not talking about Retribution, are you? Because that's just a remastered version of their first album. They're recording a new one which is supposed to be out this year.
Of course, if it IS out, I can't find it.

Which Obscura are you talking about? The Deutch Progressive Technical Death Metal band? Cause they released Cosmogenesis in 2009. If you are not talking about these guys, than I have no idea who you are talking about :P

Yeah, those guys. I've read in various places they had slated an album for release third quarter 2010 or something... Good chance it was delayed though, which would explain why they re-released Retribution... Oh well.

In other news, if y'all didn't already know, Sotajumala's latest album Kuolemanpalvelus is ill. Seems to me that these guys just keep getting better. They've also done mostly away with the studio dual-vocals, which will add a lot to their shows I think because they only have the one vocalist, and at live shows he would stop in the middle of a lyric in his growl and jump up to his scream, then back down.

Also, Soulfly on the 30th, and Blind Guardian December 12th.
:I'm psyched to finally go to a GOOD show.

At 11/16/10 09:53 AM, Dalnaki wrote: But you know, it usually is. So what ifs are irrelevant because of how rare the exceptions are.

Oh joy, it's you.

A willingness to try out shit, even though it's blatantly shit doesn't make you openminded. It just makes you someone who likes to roll around in shit.

No, willing to give anything a listen at least once is being openminded.

Also, a lot of people say they're "broad minded" when it comes to music. It's actually a bit of a cop out, because of how generic it is and how often people say it. So your broadmindedness doesn't amount to much.

Nah, I just listen to all sorts of music, all there is to it really.

It's actually best to assume first, then ask questions later. You'll be disappointed less and won't trick yourself into thinking a kid with a shitty taste in metal who knows one good band might not have such a shitty taste and may just be holding out on you, when in reality, that kid is a faggot who listens to shitty metal and got the band off Brutal Legend.

Possibly.

So you're basically a scene kid who is also a metalhead? Good for you. That doesn't redeem you, though. You're still a scene kid.

Nope, I said I may look like a scenekid occasionally due to me owning a few core band shirts and having a longer fringe than most people, but hey fuck it, appearances mean nothing if you don't know the person, unless you're a complete tool.

You judge everyone as if they are an offensive disgusting piece of shit who doesn't deserve to live, just because they listen to bands you don't like for arbitrary reasons, you need to lighten up mate.

At 11/16/10 12:23 PM, hypersomniax wrote: Sotajumala

Talk about a band i've been hearing about a lot lately, what are they genre wise? I've heard their name tossed around both the hell and concerts these past six months.

Also, Soulfly on the 30th, and Blind Guardian December 12th.

I never want to see Soulfly and Blind Guardian mentioned in the same sentence ever again.

Also, i'm seeing blind guardian on the 21st(Of this month) i'm soooooooooooooooo excited - they are the best band in the world, afterall. ;)

At 11/16/10 12:28 PM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: No, willing to give anything a listen at least once is being openminded.

Yeah, but I never said it wasn't.

Nah, I just listen to all sorts of music, all there is to it really.

Alright, good man. I see lots of people saying that, when variety to them is Sublime to Slipknot to Metallica to Paramore.

Or pretty much the most popular bands at the moment.

You judge everyone as if they are an offensive disgusting piece of shit who doesn't deserve to live, just because they listen to bands you don't like for arbitrary reasons, you need to lighten up mate.

What? No. What gave you that idea? I just don't like scene kids. Having standards that ridiculously high would just be tiresome.

At 11/16/10 09:19 AM, PenisClown wrote: Ah that's easy. They sound better than every other metal band to you, the individual.

So stating that it's the best metal band in the world would be a mistake. I know you guys think I'm just trying to mess around. But there is a difference between saying they are the best band in the world and they are my favorite band in the world. So what Necrobutcher basically said is "I love myself, I am a very narcissistic person and I think my band and our own creative work is way better than anything else that was done in the genre." If that isn't stupid.

I understand why you guys are getting tired of these kind of comments. Yup, I was being a bitch... argumenting semantics all the time. But now that this statement was made by someone you don't know personaly, how can you tell if he was saying it like an "In My Opinion" statement? Maybe the guy really thinks that they are "truly" the best metal band in the world.

At 11/16/10 09:53 AM, Dalnaki wrote: So you're basically a scene kid who is also a metalhead? Good for you. That doesn't redeem you, though. You're still a scene kid.

Regardless of the look, some people really are into both musicl genres. You see, I was having an argument with that kid on last.fm. I suggest you go see his charts

While the top 100 bands are mostly shits like Despised Icon, Attack Attack!, Horse The Band, Born Of Osiris and A Day To Remember. If you scroll down, you will eventually come across bands like Fleshgod Apocalyspe, Helloween, Enslaved, Gojira, Atheist, Death, Yngwie Malmsteen, Necrophagist, Ensiferum, Opeth, Megadeth and Suffocation. And now with a lame two or three plays. All the metal bands I have listed have 90 to 170 plays on the kids charts. So it means that he didn't listen through one album once and than threw it to the garbage. The kid really does like these Metal bands. he just happens to like the shitty bands better...

My point is, that you can really enjoy both genres. And if you do, you shouldn't be dissed and threated like a scene kid... IMO :P

At 11/16/10 05:25 PM, thdrkside wrote: What do you all think of Children of Bodom?

Ah, please no !! We've just been through that, lol :P

At 11/15/10 09:22 PM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: All Municipal Waste is good. Except Sadistic Magician.

You talkin' crazzzzzeeeee.

At 11/16/10 04:51 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: how can you tell if he was saying it like an "In My Opinion" statement?

Because in this context if a person says it then its automatically an opinion.

At 11/16/10 05:25 PM, thdrkside wrote: What do you all think of Children of Bodom?

Their songs are more fun to play than to listen to. Decent and easy to pick up. Boring as fuck to listen to. And Alexi's voice is god awful.

At 11/16/10 05:46 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 11/16/10 05:25 PM, thdrkside wrote: What do you all think of Children of Bodom?

Ah, please no !! We've just been through that, lol :P

Yeah... not again xD

Personally, I love COB.

At 11/16/10 05:25 PM, thdrkside wrote: What do you all think of Children of Bodom?

Is my favorite band

At 11/16/10 06:09 PM, Nev wrote:

At 11/16/10 04:51 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: how can you tell if he was saying it like an "In My Opinion" statement?

Because in this context if a person says it then its automatically an opinion.

I study philosophy and political sciences, mates. Objectivity and subjectivity are some of the matters we discuss the mosts at Uni. And I can tell you, that a lot of people see their opinions as facts. And when it comes to a band like Mayhem... you can't really say if the guy is just too drunk to make sense, or if he really is like that in real life.

At 11/16/10 05:25 PM, thdrkside wrote: What do you all think of Children of Bodom?

They're easily the most overrated metal band of all time.

Yes, they are in fact more overrated than Machine Head, Pantera, Cannibal Corpse and Slayer - all of whom are quite overrated themselves.

CoB is power metal for people who like -core music.

At 11/16/10 06:57 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: And I can tell you, that a lot of people see their opinions as facts.

Well they're not. That's all you need to know. You don't have to be so sensitive.

At 11/16/10 05:25 PM, thdrkside wrote: What do you all think of Children of Bodom?

Never heard of 'em.