Ok then Led Zeppelin isnt metal, but neither are Sabbath and Deep Purple. Sabbath had blues riffs and progressions in so much of their music, they were actually originally a blues rock band. They just played more somber blues with more distortion. And don't even get me started on Deep Purple, they've gone from blues rock to heavy metal to fucking pop rock.

Anywhere you look for these bands you'll see them called BOTH heavy metal and blues rock. By today's standards all three bands are most likely to be called hard rock, but back then they were all fucking heavy.

At 7/6/10 02:31 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Ok then Led Zeppelin isnt metal, but neither are Sabbath and Deep Purple. Sabbath had blues riffs and progressions in so much of their music, they were actually originally a blues rock band. They just played more somber blues with more distortion. And don't even get me started on Deep Purple, they've gone from blues rock to heavy metal to fucking pop rock.

Anywhere you look for these bands you'll see them called BOTH heavy metal and blues rock. By today's standards all three bands are most likely to be called hard rock, but back then they were all fucking heavy.

WHO CARES LOL

Why do you care what genre a band is? If you like it, then listen to it, holy shit. It's about the way it sounds, not what group it's classified in.

Black Sabbath was bluesy doom metal/heavy metal from the start. Deep Purple was sometimes heavy metal, but borderline. Led Zep never had a heavy metal sound.

At 7/6/10 12:47 AM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote: I love classic rock, especially the dirty blues sound. Try Cream, Eric Clapton, ZZ Top, and The Doors for more of that great music if you're interested.

I only know a couple songs by each of those. will check out.

Keelhaul did a pretty good cover of Just Got Paid by ZZ Top.

At 7/6/10 04:33 AM, Dalnaki wrote: I like blues rock with fucking awesome fuzzed out tones. Not the pussy shit like Led Zeppelin.

Hey, fuck you.

But uh, give me some bands.

At 7/6/10 01:28 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Can anyone make me some greek black metal suggestions? I remember Gory talking about them and I was interested.

Other than the awesomely awesome Rotting Christ, the Weaving Fates by Agatus is a pretty good album, Varathron has some good stuff, and Zemial is decent, depending on the song. I guess Necromantia and Thou Art Lord are alright. I don't really listen to any of this stuff besides Rotting Christ anymore, though. Kawir is a popular one, though I've never listened to them. And Unholy Ritual seems pretty good from what I heard.

At 7/6/10 01:28 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Can anyone make me some greek black metal suggestions? I remember Gory talking about them and I was interested.

Sorry for double post, but let me just tell this man that Rotting Christ is the way to go.

At 7/6/10 02:48 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Black Sabbath was bluesy doom metal/heavy metal from the start.

Blues rock .

Led Zep never had a heavy metal sound.

Yeah they did.

umad that uwrong?

Are you aware of The Polka Tulk Blues Band and Earth?

Need I really post this?

" is a subgenre of rock music[1]that developed in the late 1960s and early 1970s, largely in the United Kingdom and the United States.[2]With roots in blues-rock and psychedelic rock, the bands that created heavy metal developed a thick, massive sound, characterized by highly amplified distortion, extended guitar solos, emphatic beats, and overall loudness. " Led Zeppelin is this.

At 7/6/10 09:35 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 7/5/10 11:22 AM, AniMetal wrote: Reign In Blood, Hell Awaits and South Of Heaven all suck cock.

Really? I happen to enjoy Reign in Blood the most. The other first four albums are good but didn't make a huge impact on my musical interests as Reign in Blood did. I suppose not everyone will enjoy Reign in Blood but I sure as hell do.

I agree. Reign in Blood is one of my favorite albums of all time. There's really no other Thrash album like it; every song is fast and heavy, just the way Thrash should be.

Anyone here consider AC/DC metal? My dad does, man is a fucking idiot.

At 7/6/10 03:16 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

At 7/6/10 09:35 AM, Bahamut wrote: Really? I happen to enjoy Reign in Blood the most. The other first four albums are good but didn't make a huge impact on my musical interests as Reign in Blood did. I suppose not everyone will enjoy Reign in Blood but I sure as hell do.

I agree. Reign in Blood is one of my favorite albums of all time. There's really no other Thrash album like it; every song is fast and heavy, just the way Thrash should be.

Exactly, it's fast, heavy and aggressive. Sure, it can be repetitive but the album shows enough characteristics to not having all the songs sound the same as each other. A lot of albums have that problem but not Reign in Blood.

At 7/6/10 03:27 PM, Fezz wrote: Anyone here consider AC/DC metal? My dad does, man is a fucking idiot.

Not at all. Even when I started listening to them, I knew there wasn't a metal feeling to their music.

At 7/6/10 03:14 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Are you aware of The Polka Tulk Blues Band and Earth?

Need I really post this?

oh cute, a wikipedia definition

wikipedia is always right, especially concerning music

At 7/6/10 05:28 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 7/6/10 03:14 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Are you aware of The Polka Tulk Blues Band and Earth?

Need I really post this?

oh cute, a wikipedia definition

wikipedia is always right, especially concerning music

I'm on the iPod but I already assumed it was from wikipedia.

TSL, we as individuals, and a respective group/club/forum, all agree that Led Zep is NOT and NEVER was heavy metal. We've all given strong arguments (that don't come from wikipedia), that prove this very obvious point.

To put it into perspective for you (unless you're going to try and argue this as well), what you're doing is the equivalent of someone else coming in here trying to tell us that Slipknot is metal.

We have no problem with you listening to them, we have no problem accepting their influence (Led Zep), but we do have a problem with people trying to discuss them in a thread which is based on discussion of metal.

just my 5 cents

since its obvious you know absolutely everything about metal why don't you tell me what it is and its characteristics are without simply rewording that wiki def.

And what " points " did you make besides saying they don't sound like sabbath?

Saying that sabbath and purple are heavy metal but zep isn't is fucking ridiculous. Sorry if they're not true enough for you, but the thing is they were a lot heavier than most of the other stuff.

At 7/6/10 06:58 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: since its obvious you know absolutely everything about metal why don't you tell me what it is and its characteristics are without simply rewording that wiki def.

We spent the last page or so doing just that and you're still a ignorant as ever.

This club doesn't set the standard for what is and what is not Metal, but we have our own interpretations that most of us agree on, and Led Zeppelin in the eyes of this place are not Metal.
You can either live with that, believe what you like and shut up about Led Zeppelin being Metal within this club, or you can leave.

At 7/6/10 03:16 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: I agree. Reign in Blood is one of my favorite albums of all time. There's really no other Thrash album like it; every song is fast and heavy, just the way Thrash should be.

Yes, yes, all that's good and all.

But it still doesn't change the fact it's boring and unmemorable as fuck.

Anyway, i'm seeing Death Angel(With Soilwork, Augury, Swashbuckle and some shit band) later this month. THAT is a good thrash metal band.

Give me some Trve Norwegian Black Metal!

At 7/6/10 07:34 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 7/6/10 03:16 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: I agree. Reign in Blood is one of my favorite albums of all time. There's really no other Thrash album like it; every song is fast and heavy, just the way Thrash should be.

Yes, yes, all that's good and all.

But it still doesn't change the fact it's boring and unmemorable as fuck.

I'll give you unmemorable for some songs like Necrophobic and Postmortem, but boring?

I dunno. To me, a musically boring album is something like Whiplash's Sit Stand Kneel Prey. There are two amazing Thrash metal songs in there, Climb Out of Hell and the title track, but every other song (apart from Strangeface and Catharsis which are actually really cool and experimental) is just 3-5 minutes of mid-tempo chugging riffs.

At 7/6/10 07:52 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: Give me some Trve Norwegian Black Metal!

Mayhem?
I serisouly can't think of a lot of these so tr00 and so kvlt bands. When it comes to Black Metal, bands like Ulver, Wolves In The Throne Room, early Agalloch, Xasthur, Austere and Legion Noire are amongs my favorites :)

Also, I know you are interrested a lot by Melodic Death Metal and Melodic Metalcore.
You might want to check these two bands out if you don't already know them.
Blind Witness
Kalmah

At 7/6/10 08:01 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Ulver

pfffft, and ulver aren't kvlt? they recorded an album in a forest! that's about as grimm as it gets, in my book

At 7/6/10 08:13 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 7/6/10 08:01 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Ulver

pfffft, and ulver aren't kvlt? they recorded an album in a forest! that's about as grimm as it gets, in my book

What about those guys who recorded in the middle of the Arctic. I thought that was pretty kvlt.

At 7/6/10 08:13 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 7/6/10 08:01 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Ulver

pfffft, and ulver aren't kvlt? they recorded an album in a forest! that's about as grimm as it gets, in my book

Nattens Madrigal?

At 7/6/10 08:36 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Nattens Madrigal?

Allegedly, yeah.

At 7/6/10 08:33 PM, SomaGuye wrote: What about those guys who recorded in the middle of the Arctic. I thought that was pretty kvlt.

Oh my god, tell me more.

At 7/6/10 09:04 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 7/6/10 08:36 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Nattens Madrigal?

Allegedly, yeah.

Pretty kvlt yes. The recording is awesome. Except for the guitar parts. The recording of Bergtatt was perfect.

At 7/6/10 09:15 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Pretty kvlt yes. The recording is awesome. Except for the guitar parts. The recording of Bergtatt was perfect.

Hahaha yeah, the guitars kind of hurt to listen to if your headphones are good. If you're using shitty equipment, then it's not so bad. And I agree, Bergtatt is well recorded.

At 7/6/10 09:04 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Oh my god, tell me more.

It was a joke band Ani and I gave a listen to a while back. I didn't really like them and I don't think you would either. They said that they recorded shit in Antarctica but they were both teenagers from Canada and the U.K.

And stop fucking saying kvlt you two.

At 7/6/10 09:46 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: And stop fucking saying kvlt you two.

I'm saying it ironically. What, are you too tr00 to have a little fun?

At 7/6/10 09:46 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: It was a joke band Ani and I gave a listen to a while back. I didn't really like them and I don't think you would either. They said that they recorded shit in Antarctica but they were both teenagers from Canada and the U.K.

I thought there was a band that did a blend of funeral doom and black metal that actually did record in the Arctic...er Siberia...er some cold as balls place.

At 7/6/10 09:49 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: I'm saying it ironically. What, are you too tr00 to have a little fun?

You know how much I hate shit like kvlt and tr00 and brutal and all that bollocks. Its annoying. Especially when people say it in real life. Its like when people use memes in real life or when white people try to talk like 50 cent. Or say lol.

At 7/6/10 09:33 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 7/6/10 09:15 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Pretty kvlt yes. The recording is awesome. Except for the guitar parts. The recording of Bergtatt was perfect.

Hahaha yeah, the guitars kind of hurt to listen to if your headphones are good. If you're using shitty equipment, then it's not so bad. And I agree, Bergtatt is well recorded.

Can't listen ot it on my iPod, except when I use the thingy to bring the treble down and in my car I always use a treble modifier of -6, which is the lowest you can go. Only other times I use sound modifiers in my car is when I listen to some Death Metal and that I want to feel more of the bass and kick. And I usually only add +1 to the bass.

I'd say the recording of Bergtatt was perfect. Nattens Madrigal's record was also very nice. So raw! So black metal! But the guitars... even if Ponos disagree, are recorded way too loud and way too dirty. If you want to ear the other instruments, you have to turn the volume up, but then, your ears start bleeding and you have to take a break after one song.

Btw, I also fell in love with Victor Wooten. I just love his work :)

Back To India - Victor Wooten

At 7/6/10 09:46 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote:

At 7/6/10 09:04 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Oh my god, tell me more.

It was a joke band Ani and I gave a listen to a while back. I didn't really like them and I don't think you would either. They said that they recorded shit in Antarctica but they were both teenagers from Canada and the U.K.

I actually gave some of their stuff a list and while the songs are waaaaaaaaaaay too long I actually thought they were kinda cool. (not an arctic pun)

Link.

And stop fucking saying kvlt you two.

But they're so tr00!

At 7/6/10 08:00 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

But it still doesn't change the fact it's boring and unmemorable as fuck.

I'll give you unmemorable for some songs like Necrophobic and Postmortem, but boring?

In my opinion, boring = / = unmemorable.

If something is boring I tend to forget it and if something is unmemorable it tends to be boring.

I dunno. To me, a musically boring album is something like Whiplash's Sit Stand Kneel Prey. There are two amazing Thrash metal songs in there, Climb Out of Hell and the title track, but every other song (apart from Strangeface and Catharsis which are actually really cool and experimental) is just 3-5 minutes of mid-tempo chugging riffs.

I only own one Whiplash album: Power And Pain, and I actually thought that was really boring as well.

Do whiplash have any albums that are, you know, better than that?

Anyway, in nonboring thrash metal news - coroner got back together. I just found this out.

Discuss.