At 11/5/09 05:32 PM, Zodir wrote: ... someone who bashes genres and/or bands for no apparent reason.

Are you insinuating that someone in here is bashing bands for no apparent reason?
Because 'not liking them' is perfectly valid in my opinion.

At 11/5/09 06:08 PM, Nev wrote:

At 11/5/09 05:32 PM, Zodir wrote: ... someone who bashes genres and/or bands for no apparent reason.

Are you insinuating that someone in here is bashing bands for no apparent reason?
Because 'not liking them' is perfectly valid in my opinion.

It doesn't make sense to hate on something without a cause. Blind loathing is just pathetic and silly and useless. My brothers and I here in this club hate on certain bands and genres for a reason, usually that being that they are not metal.

At 11/5/09 07:04 PM, batman64 wrote: Went to the thrift store today to check out the used cds.
Picked up the Original Version of Megadeth's Countdown to Extinction.
THe price ?
42 cents.
Not too shabby.

Holy crap. That's an epic deal considering they're asking $20 for the re-masters. These dudes have an online store or anything?

Death Live in L.A.: Death * Raw is epic. That is all.

At 11/5/09 06:08 PM, Nev wrote:

At 11/5/09 05:32 PM, Zodir wrote: ... someone who bashes genres and/or bands for no apparent reason.

Are you insinuating that someone in here is bashing bands for no apparent reason?
Because 'not liking them' is perfectly valid in my opinion.

I do not believe not liking them is a good reason. If you don't like say so...then continue on. You don't have to go onto a rant about how much they suck and why. If they are not metal, that is a good reason because, as I stated before, this is METAL Hell. But not liking them is a terrible reason.

At 11/5/09 08:16 PM, Zodir wrote: If you don't like say so...then continue on. You don't have to go onto a rant about how much they suck and why.

If you're going to go on a rant, chances are you'll give some reasons as to your dislike :P.

If they are not metal, that is a good reason because, as I stated before, this is METAL Hell.

I think THAT is a terrible reason. Isn't it a wee bit close-minded to just dislike something just because its not Metal?

But not liking them is a terrible reason.

But ultimately, that is all the matters.
Rock music bores me. I dislike Rock. Why does the addition of an emotion make that opinion more valid?

At 11/5/09 08:32 PM, Nev wrote:

At 11/5/09 08:16 PM, Zodir wrote: If you don't like say so...then continue on. You don't have to go onto a rant about how much they suck and why.

If you're going to go on a rant, chances are you'll give some reasons as to your dislike :P.

If they are not metal, that is a good reason because, as I stated before, this is METAL Hell.

I think THAT is a terrible reason. Isn't it a wee bit close-minded to just dislike something just because its not Metal?

But not liking them is a terrible reason.

But ultimately, that is all the matters.
Rock music bores me. I dislike Rock. Why does the addition of an emotion make that opinion more valid?

I didn't say that I don't like things that aren't metal. I have lots of classic rock, some pop (very little) and classic prog. I said I wouldn't mind nearly as much if you bashed it in this club if someone brings it up, because it is NOT metal, and this is specifically a METAL club. But first, I would recommend trying to steer them away from that topic, because it is not what this club is oriented at.

At 11/5/09 04:59 PM, smeagol1 wrote:

At 11/5/09 02:50 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: In my opinion the most real satanic Black Metal band in the world is Marduk.

Mayhem wins the trophey my freind. Marduk hasen't burnt any churchs

That is not Satanism, that's just stupid...

It's not stupid and it's not satanism. It was an eye for an eye.
If you're looking for real satanic bands you won't go looking at the mainstream black metal bands. They just use it as a gimmick.

At 11/5/09 09:32 AM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 11/5/09 08:51 AM, Bahamut wrote: One thing I will say about the band, though. They look fucking ridiculous!

Look at the bald guy here.

Just makes my statement on the band's appearance even more true.

At 11/5/09 07:04 PM, batman64 wrote: Picked up the Original Version of Megadeth's Countdown to Extinction.
THe price ?
42 cents.

42 cents for the original version? I thought they were hard as hell to get or is it just Rust in Peace? To be honest, I've never listened to the original versions of their albums and I'm happy enough with the remasters.

At 11/6/09 05:26 AM, AllMightyBruce wrote: It's not stupid and it's not satanism. It was an eye for an eye.
If you're looking for real satanic bands you won't go looking at the mainstream black metal bands. They just use it as a gimmick.

Marduk is mainstream? Don't fuck me...

At 11/6/09 09:30 AM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: Marduk is mainstream? Don't fuck me...

Relatively speaking, when comparing them to other metal bands, they're about as mainstream as black metal gets.

At 11/6/09 09:35 AM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 11/6/09 09:30 AM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: Marduk is mainstream? Don't fuck me...

Relatively speaking, when comparing them to other metal bands, they're about as mainstream as black metal gets.

I don't think so... Cradle of Filth is more mainstream than Marduk, and yes, I am calling Cradle of Filth black metal.

At 11/6/09 04:24 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: I don't think so... Cradle of Filth is more mainstream than Marduk, and yes, I am calling Cradle of Filth black metal.

To be honest, I've never heard of Marduk, but I'll assume they are very mainstream as Dent says.
And I imagine CoF are more mainstream, I'd guess that Dimmu were too. But that doesn't mean Marduk can't be slightly behind those two.

Sup guys, I stopped posting here ages ago out of spite because I'm a twat, but do you mind if I just pop in every now and then?

Since I last posted I've been listening to a much greater variety of bands, I now love Black, Death, Symphonic and Progressive metal :D

Since I've got into more heavier bands I thought this is the best place to come..

Do I need to give an updated list of bands to prove my uh..metalness?

At 11/6/09 05:10 PM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: Sup guys, I stopped posting here ages ago out of spite because I'm a twat

You'll fit right in then.

Do I need to give an updated list of bands to prove my uh..metalness?

Members are always members, but humour us anyway :).

At 11/6/09 05:48 PM, Nev wrote: You'll fit right in then.

lmao, I love you Nev

Members are always members, but humour us anyway :).

mmkay

Death
Windir
Sylosis
Marduk
Between The Buried And Me
Amon Amarth
Gojira
In Flames
Machine Head
Testament
Protest The Hero
Whitechapel
The Faceless

They're all the ones I can remember off the top of my head :)

oh I forgot Bring Me The Horizon, A Day To Remember and My Passion

I kid

At 11/6/09 04:24 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: I don't think so... Cradle of Filth is more mainstream than Marduk, and yes, I am calling Cradle of Filth black metal.

i meant "tr00" black metal, not hot topic-core black metal. mayhem, immortal, emperor, marduk, and a few other black metal bands, when compared to others, are relatively popular.

List of Tr00 black metal

1349 (before Revelation Of The Black Flame)
Mayhem
Burzum
Immortal
Gorgoroth
Satrycon
Dark Funeral
Darkthrone (before they turned punk ewww)

At 11/6/09 07:55 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Darkthrone (before they turned punk ewww)

darkthrone are more black metal now then they ever were

also that list lacks peste noire and kataxu, and therefore sucks bum

in other news Cannibal corpse for Bloodstock 2010 i'm excieted :)

Yeah that is a pretty rubbish list smeagol.

At 11/5/09 08:51 AM, Bahamut wrote:

Say, aren't there symphonic elements in some of Emperor's stuff?

Blood Red Throne even if they are classified as Technical Death Metal, still have melodic elements. You know this is not how you classify a band as "Symphonic" or "Melodic"

At 11/5/09 02:50 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: In my opinion the most real satanic Black Metal band in the world is Marduk.

You sure? What about Mayhem?

At 11/5/09 06:08 PM, Nev wrote:

At 11/5/09 05:32 PM, Zodir wrote: ... someone who bashes genres and/or bands for no apparent reason.

Are you insinuating that someone in here is bashing bands for no apparent reason?
Because 'not liking them' is perfectly valid in my opinion.

As I said before...
Disliking a band or genre is not a good reason to bash on it. If a musical genre is not appealling to you... please try to show some intelligence and understand that you cannot like everything. And that everything that you don't like is not shit. Therefore you should not bash on music that just isn't appealling to you. But! If you really feel that a band or a whole musical genre lacks any kind of artistic value and that you have good arguments to support your opinions. THAN, why not?
For example, I may dislike Rap music and still understand that there can be a value in the lyrics or work in the beats or creativity in the way to write music. But I HATE 50 Cent, because he raps about cash, cars, gangstaz and hoes. And that I believe that since it has been done countless times in the past and that these lyrics are about uninterresting subjects and blah blah blah. THAT is a good opinion.
But "Abigail Williams sucks" is and horrible and useless comment to leave...

So "hating babies" is an apperent reason for "killing babies".
But does it justify what you did?

At 11/6/09 07:55 PM, smeagol1 wrote: List of Tr00 black metal

Enough already with the Tr00es, Kvlt, Br00tal and other ridiculous elitist terms :P

At 11/6/09 04:47 PM, Nev wrote:

At 11/6/09 04:24 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: I don't think so... Cradle of Filth is more mainstream than Marduk, and yes, I am calling Cradle of Filth black metal.

To be honest, I've never heard of Marduk, but I'll assume they are very mainstream as Dent says.

I only know Marduk from smeagol's videos, lol.

At 11/7/09 12:00 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Blood Red Throne even if they are classified as Technical Death Metal, still have melodic elements. You know this is not how you classify a band as "Symphonic" or "Melodic"

I don't know the later works of Emperor well enough but that's what Metal-Archives and Wikipedia said and yes, while both may not be the most reliable sources, it's the most I can follow for the time being.

I saw Marduk live in 2007 on their ROM 5:12 tour.

FYI: They almost got banned from performing by Jesusfreaks and Sensitive Parents.

So can I join Bands I like are

1. Opeth
2. Dream Theater
3. Cannibal Corpse
4. Mastodon
5. Testament
6. Strapping Young Lad
7. Pantera
8. Behemoth
9. Napalm Death
10. Vader

Is that good enough?

At 11/7/09 01:24 PM, Getpwnt wrote: So can I join Bands I like are

1. Opeth
2. Dream Theater
3. Cannibal Corpse
4. Mastodon
5. Testament
6. Strapping Young Lad
7. Pantera
8. Behemoth
9. Napalm Death
10. Vader

Wait for a horsemen to accept you. You will most likely be accepted into our unholy allience.

HEY DUFF DUFF! I IS tr00 burt00al for yew! t00 watch!!!!!

:3

Is that good enough?

At 11/7/09 12:00 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Disliking a band or genre is not a good reason to bash on it. If a musical genre is not appealling to you... please try to show some intelligence and understand that you cannot like everything. And that everything that you don't like is not shit. Therefore you should not bash on music that just isn't appealling to you.

I think its a fine reason. Disliking a band is enough for me to dislike the band. I can assess why I dislike a band, but the reason I dislike most things is just because I don't enjoy listening to it. My mind either says 'yes' or 'no'. Never "Oh god, this is soo swallow, how I can possibly enjoy this... *scoff*".

In my opinion the music I dislike is shit. Its my perspective. But I never think that just because one band is shit, every band like them is shit. I'm in no way close-minded. I'm just arrogant :P.

So "hating babies" is an apperent reason for "killing babies".
But does it justify what you did?

I hate Lamb of God, but I've never made an attempt on their life.
Its a bit of stretch between disliking someones work, and wanting to end their lives.

At 11/7/09 02:26 PM, Nev wrote:

In my opinion the music I dislike is shit. Its my perspective. But I never think that just because one band is shit, every band like them is shit. I'm in no way close-minded. I'm just arrogant :P.

So you admit that you are arrogant...
This is not the way it works. I don't like country music cause it is not appealling to me. I don't like most rap music because I like instrumental stuff more (I know some rap as instrumental so this is why I said MOST). Understand that I'm not saying "this is shit".
And please don't use the "this is the internet" argument...
It's not because this is the internet that you have to loose all common sense and intelligence...

I hate Lamb of God, but I've never made an attempt on their life.
Its a bit of stretch between disliking someones work, and wanting to end their lives.

You know that's not what I meant...
I really was not talking about the "act of killing".

Here's another example
The fact that I dislike black cars could be an apparent reason for me to smash black cars.
But does it justify the act of destroying black cars?

What I mean is that I may dislike rap music and all...
Because maybe I don't like spoken words in music...
is that a good reason to bash on rap music?
I don't think so. Someone who has a good sense of analysis can easily understand this.
Maybe I could make a list for musical tastes...

Music I love
Music I like
Music I do not like or hate
Music I dislike or feel un-appealled by
Music I hate

So I only bash "Music I hate". Because I only hate what I consider to be "horrible uncreative and uninterresting music". And I only do it when I have arguments to support my opinion.
Otherwise... just shut the fuck up...

Shit is just a general word I'm using for 'meh'.
I don't mean their music is vile and disgusting, meritless and devoid of talent. It's just slang.

why is it that we have the same argument every week?

i can do what the fuck i want regarding my opinions.