At 11/3/09 03:00 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: Never listened before, loved it but I think it needs a little bit -core just a litlle.

Did you seriously just say that Dissection needs to be more core?

At 11/3/09 03:47 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 11/3/09 03:17 PM, smeagol1 wrote:

At 11/3/09 02:12 PM, Freaki-boy92 wrote: can I join?

He listed Metallica! Can we eat him?!

Aren't you a Dimmu Borgir fan?

Of there old stuff. Fuck insorte Shitoboli

Oddly enough, I've never given Dimmu Borgir a real listen to. I'm listening to Mourning Palace now and it's not as bad as the haters make it out to be. I never understood why they're hated by many but maybe someone here can explain the negative thoughts.

At 11/3/09 07:33 PM, Bahamut wrote: Oddly enough, I've never given Dimmu Borgir a real listen to. I'm listening to Mourning Palace now and it's not as bad as the haters make it out to be. I never understood why they're hated by many but maybe someone here can explain the negative thoughts.

Because that was the true black metal sound.

At 11/3/09 07:33 PM, Bahamut wrote: Oddly enough, I've never given Dimmu Borgir a real listen to. I'm listening to Mourning Palace now and it's not as bad as the haters make it out to be. I never understood why they're hated by many but maybe someone here can explain the negative thoughts.

Cause they are ugly...

But seriously... I think that Symphonic Black Metal is the Melodeath of black metal...
it's dissed and hated because it's more commercial and a lot of musicians of this scene are considered to be posers...
So when we talk about CoF or Dimmu, it's even worst cause they are like "THE MOST COMMERCIAL METAL OUT THERE"

At 11/3/09 10:34 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Goddamnit YouTube.

gun2mouth

Youtube comments: Normally more entertaining than the video

Stigmata - Dark Funeral. Off the new album. Sounds good to me.

At 11/3/09 06:51 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 11/3/09 03:00 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: Never listened before, loved it but I think it needs a little bit -core just a litlle.

Did you seriously just say that Dissection needs to be more core?

Sorry just a little bit... but it's because I am more in that wave, but if you want to hate me, do it...

At 11/4/09 04:31 AM, TheUnwisePoet wrote:

At 11/3/09 06:51 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 11/3/09 03:00 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: Never listened before, loved it but I think it needs a little bit -core just a litlle.

Did you seriously just say that Dissection needs to be more core?

Sorry just a little bit... but it's because I am more in that wave, but if you want to hate me, do it...

I find it unusual that anybody could ask for more -core in their music. I'd be cheering if Dissection had no -core whatsoever. Nonetheless, they're still a good band.

At 11/3/09 07:35 PM, smeagol1 wrote:

At 11/3/09 07:33 PM, Bahamut wrote: Oddly enough, I've never given Dimmu Borgir a real listen to. I'm listening to Mourning Palace now and it's not as bad as the haters make it out to be. I never understood why they're hated by many but maybe someone here can explain the negative thoughts.

Because that was the true black metal sound.

So that's why what I was listening to didn't sound so bad.

At 11/3/09 08:47 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: But seriously... I think that Symphonic Black Metal is the Melodeath of black metal...

Is that so? If I looked further into black metal, I wouldn't mind the symphonic elements.

it's dissed and hated because it's more commercial and a lot of musicians of this scene are considered to be posers...

That's typical hate in the metal community for a lot of bands.

At 11/3/09 10:34 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Goddamnit YouTube.

Funny he calls you a kid since he's the one who sounds like a kid. Also, are Trivium still ripping off Metallica? It's been that long since I last cared about them.

Bumping ist krieg!!!!

I want to listen to moar Viking Metal than Amon Amarth, give me some bands to listen to!

At 11/4/09 06:03 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: I want to listen to moar Viking Metal than Amon Amarth, give me some bands to listen to!

Mih, *no effort*

Went to Heathenfest yesterday, it was pretty kickass!

Going to see Vader, Decrepit Birth, Warbringer, The Amentia, Augury, Swashbuckle and S.W.W.A.A.T.S tomorrow!

Vader - Xeper

At 11/4/09 06:03 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: I want to listen to moar Viking Metal than Amon Amarth, give me some bands to listen to!

You do realize though, that Amon Amarth isn't gonna be like most of the other bands on that list, right? Most of the bands on that list are folk metal.

At 11/4/09 05:55 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Bumping ist krieg!!!!

That is frostbitten and from the high moors of Mordor.

The most metal cover of 'Stand By Me' you guys will ever hear. Lemmy on vocals and Dave Lombardo on drums. Lemmy's voice is holy crap amazing :3

At 11/4/09 07:45 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 11/3/09 08:47 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: But seriously... I think that Symphonic Black Metal is the Melodeath of black metal...

Is that so? If I looked further into black metal, I wouldn't mind the symphonic elements.

I dunno if I already explained this before... but anyway...
I think that Death Metal and Melodic Death Metal are different genres of metal and therefore melodeath shouldn't be named that way and shouldn't be classified as a sub-genre of Death Metal. I think that even if they share similarities they are two different genres of metal. I think it's the exact same thing for Black Metal and Symphonic Black Metal.

So yeah... most of the time they are not considered as "real metal bands" by the underground metal fans.

When I discuss musical tastes with people and that they only list Symphonic Black and Melodic Death bands... I just can't take them seriously when they talk about "THE metal". Basically I just see them as noobish metalheads. Call me an elitist if you want :P but that is just my opinion. So maybe SBM and MDM are dissed metal genres because they are the most commercial metal genres out there and that people who listen to them are sometimes seen by other metalheads as "pop metal fans"

Call me an elitist... but I hate to ear MDM kids talking about shit they don't know. Cause most of the time they assume that their tastes are "so fucking underground and that they are the only people who know these bands". So from this point they start trying to speak in the name of metal and try to teach their friends and family members what metal truly is by making them listen to their Cradle Of Filth and In Flames cd collection.

it's dissed and hated because it's more commercial and a lot of musicians of this scene are considered to be posers...

That's typical hate in the metal community for a lot of bands.

Right. But if you are looking for posers... the SBM scene is where you'll find the largest amount of them. And that is as true for the fans as for the actual musicians of the band.

"DAAAAH !! Power chord."

I quite enjoy symphonic black metal and melodic death metal. I consider them sub-sub-genres (sub-genres of sub-genres) and they served as a sort of gateway drug to heavier stuff that I enjoy now. This is one thing that is starting to annoy me about this club: the constant bashing of sub-genres simply because you do not like it. Feel free to bash other things that aren't metal, but this club should accept ALL types of metal. There are countless number of sub-genres of metal, and they are all very diverse. If you wish to talk about what you consider TRUE METAL, rename the club into Thrash and Death and Black Metal Crew (No sub-genres). But it is simply called Metal Hell, which seems to indicate all genres of metal. Excuse me if this gets me exiled, but the ceaseless bashing is starting to get to me.

At 11/4/09 06:59 PM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: The most metal cover of 'Stand By Me' you guys will ever hear.

Goddamn. This is awesome.

At 11/4/09 09:24 PM, batman64 wrote: Not bad for a dude who is turning 70 next year.

According to Wikipedia, he's 63 right now. But still, the dude can sing. That cover was awesome.

At 11/4/09 10:32 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Galder is a faggot.

How can anyone take this seriously?

At 11/4/09 11:20 PM, batman64 wrote: Too stoned to do simple math.

Haha, no worries. I'll accept that excuse.

At 11/4/09 08:28 PM, Zodir wrote: I quite enjoy symphonic black metal and melodic death metal. I consider them sub-sub-genres (sub-genres of sub-genres) and they served as a sort of gateway drug to heavier stuff that I enjoy now. This is one thing that is starting to annoy me about this club: the constant bashing of sub-genres simply because you do not like it. Feel free to bash other things that aren't metal, but this club should accept ALL types of metal. There are countless number of sub-genres of metal, and they are all very diverse. If you wish to talk about what you consider TRUE METAL, rename the club into Thrash and Death and Black Metal Crew (No sub-genres). But it is simply called Metal Hell, which seems to indicate all genres of metal. Excuse me if this gets me exiled, but the ceaseless bashing is starting to get to me.

I enjoy Symphonic Black Metal and Melodic Death Metal and was bashed on countless times by Ponos cause he believed that it was all I was listenning to. And I'm starting to get why he reacted this way. It's annoying when "melodeath only" fans talk about "THE metal" but I do consider Melodeath to be as metal as metal can get.

I hope you get the point I'm trying to make...
I love melodic death metal, but I think that it's one of the easiest metal genre to listen to. There is catchy clean vocals, catchy clean guitar melodies and stuff like this. It's not bad. But can you consider that a "melodeath only" fan really knows a lot about metal if he can't stand death metal?

At 11/4/09 10:32 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 11/4/09 08:16 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: "DAAAAH !! Power chord."

Galder is a faggot.

funny :P

I've been listenning to the Fallout 3 soundtrack tonight. It's great that videogames use good music :)

At 11/4/09 06:59 PM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: The most metal cover of 'Stand By Me' you guys will ever hear.

Metal is the only word to describe this.

At 11/4/09 08:16 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I think that Death Metal and Melodic Death Metal are different genres of metal and therefore melodeath shouldn't be named that way and shouldn't be classified as a sub-genre of Death Metal.

I'll give you this point as several times I felt melodic death metal was out of place to the rest of death metal.

So maybe SBM and MDM are dissed metal genres because they are the most commercial metal genres out there

This is the most common reason as to why people are hating Dimmu Borgir. Commercial or not, I'll look into more of their stuff and decide on my own opinions. I already know not to get their latest album. The two songs I heard were subpar.

Right. But if you are looking for posers... the SBM scene is where you'll find the largest amount of them. And that is as true for the fans as for the actual musicians of the band.

Say, aren't there symphonic elements in some of Emperor's stuff?

"DAAAAH !! Power chord."

One thing I will say about the band, though. They look fucking ridiculous!

In my opinion the most real satanic Black Metal band in the world is Marduk.

Why is it his face is white and his hands are a normal color?

At 11/5/09 02:50 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: In my opinion the most real satanic Black Metal band in the world is Marduk.

Mayhem wins the trophey my freind. Marduk hasen't burnt any churchs

At 11/5/09 04:59 PM, smeagol1 wrote:

At 11/5/09 02:50 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: In my opinion the most real satanic Black Metal band in the world is Marduk.

Mayhem wins the trophey my freind. Marduk hasen't burnt any churchs

And for all the other sick shit they done.

At 11/4/09 11:55 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 11/4/09 08:28 PM, Zodir wrote: I quite enjoy symphonic black metal and melodic death metal. I consider them sub-sub-genres (sub-genres of sub-genres) and they served as a sort of gateway drug to heavier stuff that I enjoy now. This is one thing that is starting to annoy me about this club: the constant bashing of sub-genres simply because you do not like it. Feel free to bash other things that aren't metal, but this club should accept ALL types of metal. There are countless number of sub-genres of metal, and they are all very diverse. If you wish to talk about what you consider TRUE METAL, rename the club into Thrash and Death and Black Metal Crew (No sub-genres). But it is simply called Metal Hell, which seems to indicate all genres of metal. Excuse me if this gets me exiled, but the ceaseless bashing is starting to get to me.

I enjoy Symphonic Black Metal and Melodic Death Metal and was bashed on countless times by Ponos cause he believed that it was all I was listenning to. And I'm starting to get why he reacted this way. It's annoying when "melodeath only" fans talk about "THE metal" but I do consider Melodeath to be as metal as metal can get.

I hope you get the point I'm trying to make...
I love melodic death metal, but I think that it's one of the easiest metal genre to listen to. There is catchy clean vocals, catchy clean guitar melodies and stuff like this. It's not bad. But can you consider that a "melodeath only" fan really knows a lot about metal if he can't stand death metal?

It wasn't just directed at you, but I do see where you are coming from. I agree that when people only like one type of metal and then claim they are "hardcore" but the way you wrote your post seemed to show that you had a disdain for melodeath and symphonic black metal. The only thing that annoys me more than a person who is a total poser is someone who bashes genres and/or bands for no apparent reason. I get enough of that in school from uneducated idiots who think all metal is death metal and black metal, and that I instantly must be suicidal or wrist-slitting.