At 5/12/09 09:45 PM, jew193 wrote: Ending Credits, on Damnation, by Opeth is really awesome for me. It's just so chill.

I played bass on that track for a friends recording project in college :).

At 5/12/09 09:45 PM, jew193 wrote: Ending Credits, on Damnation, by Opeth is really awesome for me. It's just so chill.

I obsess over that song sometimes. Same goes for Hope Leaves and To Rid The Disease, which aren't instrumentals, but eh...

At 5/12/09 10:03 PM, Nev wrote:

Pfft, Sam's allowed to be rude, she's rarely here and is only pissing around.

You heard it from the guy with sexy hair. The hair never lies.

At 5/12/09 09:53 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Oh shit, Sam's here!

Fuck yes.

At 5/12/09 09:48 PM, smeagol1 wrote:

wow your real nice. I try to start a nice conversation and what do I get?

douche

Oh noes, the interwebs :(

At 5/12/09 10:36 PM, ShitOnAStick wrote: You heard it from the guy with sexy hair. The hair never lies.

I have this really annoying spit curl type thing as a fringe now. I don't know how it came to be but I remember having to trim this little shoot but it got stubbly and kept growing back. Now I have to keep it until its caught up with the length of the rest :(.

At 5/12/09 10:30 PM, GoryBlizzard wrote:

At 5/12/09 09:45 PM, jew193 wrote: Ending Credits, on Damnation, by Opeth is really awesome for me. It's just so chill.

I obsess over that song sometimes. Same goes for Hope Leaves and To Rid The Disease, which aren't instrumentals, but eh...

I know what you mean. I listen to those songs, and I just want to listen to them over and over again.

At 5/12/09 02:04 AM, PenisClown wrote:

2. Poppy and commercial being negative things? Well when the musicians creating the incredibly strong, powerful musical complex, skilled and beautiful sounding music held in 'Awake' turn down the creativity knobs and put out commercial sounding poppy lame metal, it's pretty damn negative.

I really like "the incredibly strong, powerful musical complex, skilled and beautiful sounding music. But you also do understand that simple or catchy music, can be good. Let's just mention bands like Black Sabbath. They did write very simple and catchy songs. Also, what's wrong with writting a song like "Through The Fire And Flames". It's a song with a very catchy chorus and when I drink with my friends, we always love to sing this song together.
I think that the best example would be comparing Pink Floyd to AC/DC. Even if Pink Floyd is way more technical, complex and deep, you cannot say they are better than AC/DC, they really are just different. AC/DC are making kind of rock that is a lot more simple and they have very commercial and poppy songs. Highway To Hell is still a Rock classic.

Black Sabbath's Iron Man. It's the 70's man. Groovy. There is no commercial influence, no core, no emoness. Iron Man is just incredibly heavy marijuana blues rock jamming about a big metal guy smashing things, created by some of the most kick arse musicians ever.

You say there is no commercial influence to Black Sabbath, I wouldn't say that. I'd say they probably didn't make it just to sell records, but the song is still very simple and has a song structure that is very similar to any commercial music. And for all the core and emoness part... I think that this is just opinions... I hate whiny shit music, but I still like metalcore. And the last part is really really really funny!

Iron Man wasn't created to make money. And it certainly contained no traits of what was popular music when it was released. It was awesome stoners making music for their own enjoyment and pushing the envelope of rock. There's a lot of variety in the song as well. Iron Man isn't pop dude.

Basic basic lame sounding pop music influence shouldn't reach metal, and doesn't reach real metal.

Are you claiming that Dream Theater are not real metal? Or that they lost their metalness when John got an haircut?

At 5/13/09 12:23 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: but the song is still very simple and has a song structure that is very similar to any commercial music.

that doesn't make it commercial. commercial is when the artists change their music to sell. even if the music is poppy, it's not necessarily commercial, though the two go hand in hand.

At 5/13/09 12:23 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I think that the best example would be comparing Pink Floyd to AC/DC. Even if Pink Floyd is way more technical, complex and deep, you cannot say they are better than AC/DC, they really are just different.

Cheese is different to dogshit I can can and will happily say that I prefer cheese :P.
From an objective point of you, you're right. But music isn't objective. Its all about the person, not the whole.

Are you claiming that Dream Theater are not real metal? Or that they lost their metalness when John got an haircut?

They still write good music, its just not pushing the envelope. They're great at being modern Dream Theater. But they're hardly a Prog Metal band anymore as they've stuck to the same sort of thing.

Sam, you're the bees knees, so I'll lay it out for ya. Smeagol1 and HeavenDuff should pretty much be ignored or laughed at most of the time. :D

At 5/12/09 07:27 PM, Nev wrote: They generally play a song from each album. Things like THe Drapery Falls, Demon of the Fall, Grand Conjuration are normally regulars. Probably get a few tracks from Watershed too.

It certainly looks like they're a fucking great live band. Been watching a lot of Youtube videos. I think I'll pick up the Roundhouse Tapes CD with the DVD but I don't think I've seen it yet. I've seen Roundhouse Tapes but I don't know if it's the one with the DVD.

Anyone seen Lamentations? I downloaded The Drapery Falls part off Youtube for my iPod.

At 5/12/09 08:13 PM, Lost-Thought wrote: one of the ones I don't have lol, I only have Ghost Reveries, Watershed, and Blackwater Park

Oh god. That's a pretty bad scope of Opeth. You need Still Life, My Arms Your Hearse, Morningrise and Orchid. Those are definitely their best albums.

Although I am a fan of Blackwater Park and Watershed. GR gets a big meh from me.

I also try to forget about Deliverance and Damnation.

At 5/12/09 10:03 PM, Nev wrote: Dream Theater - A Mind Beside Itself: II. Erotomania

Oh aren't we the technical one.

And as a rule, every time you mention Erotomania I have to brag about how I SAW DT PLAY IT LIVE AND YOU DIDNT.

GOB ON THOSE CHEESE BALLS BABY.

Duff, if you doubt for one fucking minute that Bill Ward, Geezer Butler and Tony Iommi weren't some of the greatest musicians in fucking history, you should be tortured in a really awesome way.

Awesome from my point of view.

At 5/13/09 05:26 AM, PenisClown wrote: Oh aren't we the technical one.

I can only call it Erotomania in slang more. Its called AMBI: II. Erotomania :P.

And as a rule, every time you mention Erotomania I have to brag about how I SAW DT PLAY IT LIVE AND YOU DIDNT.

When I fuck your brain I'll make sure that memory sticks to my dick!

Imogen Heap - Goodnight & Go (Speak for Yourself)

I had a debate over metal drumming having better technique and whatnot compared to rock/indie/alternative (whatever Muse is).

In the end we both came to a compromise that they're 2 completely different drummers/genres/techniques, thus can't say who is better then who, and that they're all good :3

also hai SOAS

So I listened to In the Court of the Crimson King for the first time today and loved it. In much less interesting news I can't stop listening to Are You Dead Dead Yet. The video makes me rage but I can't get that riff out of my head.

Also you guys need to listen to this. I will continue to post this band until someone pays attention to me.

At 5/13/09 08:56 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: In the end we both came to a compromise that they're 2 completely different drummers/genres/techniques, thus can't say who is better then who, and that they're all good :3

LOGICAL, MATURE CONCLUSIONS HAVE NO PLACE HERE

kiddin'

Lykathea Aflame really grows on you.

At 5/12/09 01:29 PM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: What's wrong with that? they're a pretty awesome band, I love Toxicity.

A lot of metal fans frown upon System of a Down, but I still respect the band. I could care less if I get told to stop respecting them as I won't even take that advice.

At 5/12/09 08:30 PM, smeagol1 wrote: All ye users of Hel (ment to be spelt that way). Whats your favorite instrumental song by a band?

Some of my favourites:

Dream Theater - Erotomania and Stream of Conciousness
Iron Maiden - Transylvania
Megadeth - Into the Lungs of Hell
Metallica - (Anesthesia) Pulling Teeth and Orion
Stratovarius - Stratofortress and Stratosphere

At 5/13/09 10:05 AM, D3NTATUS wrote:

kiddin'

DEY TOOKER JERBS!

Pink floyd is so much fucking better than ACDC.
I don´t care about technical skill in music, but ACDC is just such a repetitive and uncreative band.

Bon Scott era ACDC is decent. He had a charismatic voice. After his death they started getting really bland.
I can´t stand Brian Johnson.

At 5/13/09 12:23 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: comparing Pink Floyd to AC/DC. Even if Pink Floyd is way more technical, complex and deep, you cannot say they are better than AC/DC

Yes I fucking can, because they are.

At 5/13/09 09:19 AM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote: So I listened to In the Court of the Crimson King for the first time today and loved it.

congrats. You have taste. That there's a brilliant album by a brilliant band.

At 5/13/09 02:21 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 5/13/09 12:23 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: comparing Pink Floyd to AC/DC. Even if Pink Floyd is way more technical, complex and deep, you cannot say they are better than AC/DC

Yes I fucking can, because they are.

Sigh... You can't compare apples to fucking bananas, because they simply are not the same. But you can say I like apples better than bananas.

At 5/13/09 05:26 AM, PenisClown wrote: Sam, you're the bees knees, so I'll lay it out for ya. Smeagol1 and HeavenDuff should pretty much be ignored or laughed at most of the time. :D

says the most retarded self-loving teenager... Your opinions are not more worthy than any one elses... and at least I support my opinions with facts and arguments, fucking dumbass.

Listenning to right now : Soelen Gaaer Bag Aase Ned by Ulver

awesome music.

At 5/13/09 08:56 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: In the end we both came to a compromise that they're 2 completely different drummers/genres/techniques, thus can't say who is better then who, and that they're all good :3

Jazz fucks you all!

At 5/13/09 04:10 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Sigh... You can't compare apples to fucking bananas, because they simply are not the same.

They're both fruit. Of course you can.

At 5/13/09 04:13 PM, Nev wrote:

At 5/13/09 04:10 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Sigh... You can't compare apples to fucking bananas, because they simply are not the same.

They're both fruit. Of course you can.

Yup... just like Pink Floyd and AC/DC are both rock.
When I compared AC/DC with Pink Floyd I was not talking about their whole discography and career but really just about their genre of music. AC/DC makes simple music and Pink Floyd a much more complex genre of music. So do we have to conclude that the more complex music gets, the better it is? I don't think so.

At 5/13/09 04:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: So do we have to conclude that the more complex music gets, the better it is? I don't think so.

No. But better music is better music.

At 5/13/09 04:41 PM, Nev wrote:

At 5/13/09 04:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: So do we have to conclude that the more complex music gets, the better it is? I don't think so.

No. But better music is better music.

So Origin is better than Sonata Arctica cause it's way more complex and technical...
Sonata Arctica simply cannot win because they play a lot of chords and use simple strong structures. What about the deepest meaning of their lyrics and the ambience they can create playing their music? WE DONT FUCKING CARE !! CAUSE THEY OBVIOUSLY SUCK COMPARED TO ANY TECHNICAL OR PROG BAND!!!

Way to go kids, let's replace musicality by incredibly insanely technical riffs.

At 5/13/09 04:10 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

:fucking dumbass

sigh...

At 5/13/09 04:53 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: So Origin is better than Sonata Arctica cause it's way more complex and technical...

I said better music you fucking moron!
MUSIC! Not technicality or whatever. MUSIC!

God, you're really stupid.

At 5/13/09 05:00 PM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote:

At 5/13/09 04:10 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: fucking dumbass

sigh...

I know... I know.

At 5/13/09 05:00 PM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote:

At 5/13/09 04:10 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: fucking dumbass

sigh...

I know we just discussed all this "be mature" thing, but I'm just fed up with stupid people

Anyone in here knows about Anthelion? I just started listenning to some of their stuff, it's looking pretty good from what I've heard.

At 5/13/09 05:08 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I know we just discussed all this "be mature" thing, but I'm just fed up with stupid people

So are we.

been listening to some Susperia, pretty good from what I've heard so far, I'll get one of the albums as soon as I get some bloody money.

still loving the way of the fist >:D