At 1/25/09 02:43 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: What songs (Metal or not) would you actually call 'beautiful'?

Like, anything by Agalloch.

At 1/25/09 12:47 PM, Abyssus wrote: Someone give me something to just quickly sum up why Slipknot aren't the best band ever just because they sell more.

if you really wanna outsmart them then say that they are using the fallacy 'argumentum ad populum'. jsut because a lot of people think they are doesnt make it true. especially when a band has loads of media hype and relies on so-called shock factor (ZOMG SCARY MASKS!) their reputation is usually far bigger than their actual talent.

I totally recommend Sadness Shall Prevail to any Avant-Garde fans. Its a fucked up album. Its actually kind of scaring me. The sounds are so weird, nice pianos with loads of noise and evil screams over the top.

But its great :).

recently completed Negura Bunget discography. happy day!

At 1/25/09 02:46 PM, Nev wrote: The albums I got from the guitarist in my band like last week:

Bongzilla
Boris
dot(.) -
Earth
Electric Wizard - Witchcult Today
Grand Magus
High on Fire
Minsk
Orange Goblin
Ramesses
Rwake
Sleep
Ufomammut
Wormphlegm

I like all of these bands. Your guitarist likes a lot of good doom and sludge. Maybe I'll look at the stuff on the list I haven't heard.

At 1/25/09 03:04 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 1/25/09 02:43 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: What songs (Metal or not) would you actually call 'beautiful'?

Like, anything by Agalloch.

this

At 1/25/09 03:44 PM, Nev wrote: I totally recommend Sadness Shall Prevail to any Avant-Garde fans. Its a fucked up album. Its actually kind of scaring me. The sounds are so weird, nice pianos with loads of noise and evil screams over the top.

But its great :).

I'm not finding this on the archives.

At 1/25/09 04:41 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I'm not finding this on the archives.

Yeah, I know.
There are Metal influences in there, but not enough apparently. A bit stupid really. There's definite Doom influence and its very Experimental.
Apparently they were up and were taken down. And Wiki has them down as 'Noisegrind'.

Check this album out though, you should like it seeing how you live your experimental stuff.

At 1/25/09 02:43 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

I used that before, but in the end the guy settled for it's all opinion. Which is fair enough.

I'd say Soothsayer and Electric Tears by Buckethead, and also Draw Me by Sonata Arctica.

Draw me, fuck yes. The vocal at the end gives me goosebumps.

I must have Faaaiiiilllleeeeeeddddd

I think it's time for a new siggy I get one made soon.

At 1/25/09 12:58 AM, AniMetal wrote: Kreator, Exodus, Belphegor, Warbringer and Epicurean are all touring the US, Canada and I think(But not positive) the UK together In late March, April and early May.

Am I the only person who is really excited to see those bands all play live?

*AHEM*

At 1/25/09 02:46 PM, Nev wrote: The albums I got from the guitarist in my band like last week:

Fucking......great.

Anyway Soilwork, Darkane, Warbringer and Swallow The Sun are playing here on Feb. 12th.

I'm already seeing Warbringer with Kreator, exodus, etc. on April 10th and again on September 30th with Obituary, Goatwhore, Krisiun and The Berzerker.

But do you guys think I should go to see those other three bands?

At 1/24/09 09:32 AM, Nev wrote: Drinking is soooo bad. I feel terrible this morning, and have a vomity bed to clean up :(.

I've been so lucky, I've done my fair share of drinking and I've gone overboard more than a few times and I always manage to feel fine the next day. Also have only thrown up once because of it.

At 1/24/09 08:06 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Plus long hair is pretty. And some girls are into it, and these girls also happen to be the sort of girl i'm into.

Pisses me off that more "conservative" jobs frown on long hair. Ponytails look formal enough in my mind. I got mine cut back in November while looking for a job thinking it couldn't hurt and it was a stupid decision that I find myself regretting constantly.

At 1/25/09 02:43 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: What songs (Metal or not) would you actually call 'beautiful'?

Agalloch's The Misshapen Steed comes to mind almost immediately. That and basically every song on The White in particular, but like it's been said majority of their music fits the description perfectly. Gone by M83 is pretty haunting, Land of the Dead by Summoning is amazing, Mourners and Fortgang by Empyrium come to mind, Souvenirs by Alcest, Autumn by Yearning, Dismantling Devotion by Daylight Dies is one of if not my favorite instrumental of all time, Another Day by Dream Theater, Last Statement by Insomnium, I could probably make a nice long list if I felt like it.

At 1/25/09 07:44 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 1/25/09 02:46 PM, Nev wrote: The albums I got from the guitarist in my band like last week:

Fucking......great.

Those bands kicked arse. Bad taste >:(

So today i got into an argument with a dude. He liked We The Kings and I laughed when he said it, and when I said I listen to metal he said that metal is "the gayest genre ever, you can't even understand it."

To be fair to his side, Rob Halford. But seriously? We the Kings?

At 1/25/09 07:50 PM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote: Pisses me off that more "conservative" jobs frown on long hair. Ponytails look formal enough in my mind. I got mine cut back in November while looking for a job thinking it couldn't hurt and it was a stupid decision that I find myself regretting constantly.

I want a teacher because most teachers/educators are liberal and would allow me to keep my hair and have a beard. My 10th grade honors english teacher had a sick ponytail

At 1/25/09 10:21 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: So today i got into an argument with a dude. He liked We The Kings and I laughed when he said it, and when I said I listen to metal he said that metal is "the gayest genre ever, you can't even understand it."

Oh at first I thought that quote read "The gayest genre ever, you don't even know."

Lmao.

Seriously though, i've never even heard of them before...but they sound like they are a shittie boy band...?

PLease tell me you kicked his ass.

I'm pretty sure if you say to a mainstream indie/rock whatever listener that he should listen to metal, they pretty much assume you're talking about deathcore. And that sucks. Kids don't know what thrash metal or trve death metal is. Yeah. Deathcore sucks.

At 1/26/09 12:36 AM, AniMetal wrote: Seriously though, i've never even heard of them before...but they sound like they are a shittie boy band...?

Worse. Shitty pop punk. Normally I'd link you to give you an idea of their sound, but you need to do it on your own time. I don't want to taint our hell with their music, it's bad enough i've mentioned their name.

PLease tell me you kicked his ass.

Verbally. I don't fight, and I was at someone's house with tons of parents around.

At 1/26/09 12:57 AM, D3NTATUS wrote: Worse. Shitty pop punk. Normally I'd link you to give you an idea of their sound, but you need to do it on your own time. I don't want to taint our hell with their music, it's bad enough i've mentioned their name.

AH THE TERRIBLE MUSIC OF THE NEW GENERATION IS CONTAGIOUS, RUN FOR THE HILLS!

Verbally. I don't fight, and I was at someone's house with tons of parents around.

Pussy. :P

You just don't want to admit that if a Pop Punk fan kicked your ass you would be scared for life.

At 1/26/09 12:57 AM, puddleduck wrote: And that sucks. Yeah. Deathcore sucks.

People usually aren't even talking about deathcore. Bands that stereotypical people with no taste think are metal:

Slipknot
Disturbed
Korn
In This moment
As I lay dying
Rise against
Bullet for my valentine
Atreyu
Avenged Sevenfold
Unearth
Etc.

I honestly like some deathcore, although it isn't metal some of it can be decent. The only real problem is metalcore and NU metal.

Kids don't know what thrash metal

I can understand to an extent why some people wouldn't like thrash metal.

or trve death metal is.

Most people that know what "true" metal is but don't like it usually is because of death metal actually.

The screaming turns a lot of people off.

At 1/26/09 01:04 AM, AniMetal wrote: I can understand to an extent why some people wouldn't like thrash metal.

I said no one knows about thrash metal.

Why wouldn't people like it? It's the easiest type of metal to like.

Most people that know what "true" metal is but don't like it usually is because of death metal actually.

Yeah, people don't understand that. I blame music stores personally, for selling crappy nu metal and metalcore CD's in a little section called the "Metal Section". Fucking tossers.

The screaming turns a lot of people off.

Real metal doesn't have screaming. >:(

Exceptions:
Burzum
Sludge Metal Bands

At 1/26/09 02:45 AM, puddleduck wrote: I said no one knows about thrash metal.

Plenty of people know about thrash metal.

Older metallica, megadeth, slyaer, Anthrax, Pantera(Depending on who you ask), Exodus, Kreator, etc?

Some of the most famous and well known metal bands are thrash metal.

Why wouldn't people like it? It's the easiest type of metal to like.

I think some of the "Cleaner" stuff like progressive and power metal are easier to like.

Although it completely depends on the individual.

Yeah, people don't understand that. I blame music stores personally, for selling crappy nu metal and metalcore CD's in a little section called the "Metal Section". Fucking tossers.

Newbury comics in October is the exception.

Seriously, during metal month they sell metalcore and Nu Metal and all but they also sell albums by every slightly big real metal band you could think of.

In fact half of my CDs I got from Newbury comics in October '07 and '08.

Real metal doesn't have screaming. >:(

What's your definition of real metal?

You mentioned death metal.

I call it cookie monster vocals or harsh vocals, while other people would consider it screaming.

What the fuck kind of metal do you listen to?

On that note, who the hell are you?

At 1/26/09 03:14 AM, AniMetal wrote: I call it cookie monster vocals or harsh vocals, while other people would consider it screaming.

I've always called it Growls or Gutturals. Screaming is more for Power Metal.

At 1/26/09 04:22 AM, Oppugnant wrote: I've always called it Growls or Gutturals. Screaming is more for Power Metal.

Totally.

Gutturals? Lmao.

At 1/26/09 04:25 AM, AniMetal wrote:

Gutturals? Lmao.

A growl which you pull from deep inside your gut, giving you an awesome sound. Thats how i see it anyway.

At 1/26/09 04:25 AM, AniMetal wrote:

At 1/26/09 04:22 AM, Oppugnant wrote: I've always called it Growls or Gutturals. Screaming is more for Power Metal.

Totally.

Yes, totally.

At 1/26/09 03:14 AM, AniMetal wrote: Plenty of people know about thrash metal.

Older metallica, megadeth, slyaer, Anthrax, Pantera(Depending on who you ask), Exodus, Kreator, etc?

Some of the most famous and well known metal bands are thrash metal.

I meant, fucking indie/pop listening teenagers that I go to school with don't know about thrash metal.

I think some of the "Cleaner" stuff like progressive and power metal are easier to like.

Prog songs are too long and complicated/cheesey for them. And power metal is too cheesey.

Although it completely depends on the individual.

Yeah, people don't understand that. I blame music stores personally, for selling crappy nu metal and metalcore CD's in a little section called the "Metal Section". Fucking tossers.

In this country I go to a shop called JB HiFi. They sell real metal.

Real metal doesn't have screaming. >:(

What's your definition of real metal?

Real metal has absolutely no core or nu influence. Most real metal was made in the 80's/90's, nowadays it hardly exists because of the popularity of simple catchy easy listening music and just plain musical ignorance of modern society. No one appreciates music as an art form anymore. >:(

You mentioned death metal.

I call it cookie monster vocals or harsh vocals, while other people would consider it screaming.

Fucksticks would consider it screaming. Screaming = screamo/emocore. Not metal.

What the fuck kind of metal do you listen to?

Good death metal (Atheist, Death, Suffocation), good black metal (Burzum's last two black metal albums, Drudkh, Taake, Ulver) stoner/doom/sludge (Black Sabbath, Boris, Bongzilla, Electric Wizard, High on Fire, Kyuss, Melvins, Orange Goblin, Sleep, Weedeater). Death and black metal is flooded with horrible bands. I just listen to the good ones. I actually need recs on death and black bands.

But yeah. Sludge is my shit.

On that note, who the hell are you?

Some alt fuck.

Gutturals \m/

At 1/26/09 05:29 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote:

At 1/26/09 04:25 AM, AniMetal wrote:

Gutturals? Lmao.

A growl which you pull from deep inside your gut, giving you an awesome sound. Thats how i see it anyway.

Gutturals.

Has anyone here picked up the new Kreator album? If so, what are your thoughts on it?

At 1/25/09 10:21 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: To be fair to his side, Rob Halford. But seriously? We the Kings?

Ugh, that person is so stupid. I really hate it when they call metal gay without giving a proper reason as to why it's gay (besides Rob Halford). Seriously, he probably calls things gay a lot more than I do!

At 1/26/09 09:17 AM, Bahamut wrote: Has anyone here picked up the new Kreator album? If so, what are your thoughts on it?

Goooood.

It's nice and catchy, would be amazing live.

Why is it everytime someone tells a story of an argument with a non-Metalhead there is always some reference (by the original poster or someone else) to physical violence? No wonder Metalheads have a bad name if all you can think of is primitive aggression over open-mindedness and acceptance of other people opinions.

At 1/26/09 10:10 AM, Nev wrote: No wonder Metalheads have a bad name if all you can think of is primitive aggression over open-mindedness and acceptance of other people opinions.

Dur?

Smashy smashy hip-hop.

Me like musikal complexity.

How I blast beat?

At 1/26/09 10:10 AM, Nev wrote: Why is it everytime someone tells a story of an argument with a non-Metalhead there is always some reference (by the original poster or someone else) to physical violence? No wonder Metalheads have a bad name if all you can think of is primitive aggression over open-mindedness and acceptance of other people opinions.

GRRR METALHEAD ANGRY! METALHEAD SMASH!

What the fuck man. I love fighting. Haha.

At 1/26/09 12:25 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: What the fuck man. I love fighting. Haha.

Do you wanna go?

At 1/26/09 10:03 AM, Oppugnant wrote: It's nice and catchy, would be amazing live.

*Facepalm*

Since apparently nobody read this post I made i'll just repost it:

"Kreator, Exodus, Belphegor, Warbringer and Epicurean are all touring the US, Canada and I think(But not positive) the UK together In late March, April and early May.

Am I the only person who is really excited to see those bands all play live?"

Meaning if you have a big venue ANYWHERE near you, you should check online to see if they will play there.