At 1/6/09 09:50 AM, Bahamut wrote: Damn! I really don't understand how someone couldn't tell the difference between Cannibal Corpse and The Killers.

The dude was in fact wearing trousers that seemed to be almost falling off, so I'm guessing he listened to Hip Hop and the like and as thus assuemd anything with guitars in it is the same thing.

You know what?

I've been reading pages from quite a while back, and it seems during all the e-drama that constantly plagues this place, Bahamut is the only one who's always kept his cool.

For the most part, anyway.

Liberation of the Chosen One - Another new song from my new EP

Well, would be awesome if you listen to it and tell me how you like it guys :) Opinions of the Hellions always matter the most.

Thanks!

getting into Melechesh

At 1/6/09 10:45 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: getting into Melechesh

Excellent :)
For myself, I started at Emissaries and worked back but stopped at Djinn. Haven't checked out their first apparently true Black Metal album.

At 1/6/09 03:47 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote:

At 1/6/09 01:17 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 1/6/09 12:27 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So 3 little fags were talking about metalcore on TF2 today. I was so ready to start annihilating them when they started saying "its like death metal, but less heavy" but then my internet fucked up >:C

Oh teh noes !!1
Not another missed opportunity to bash on other people's favorite music ?!?

Fuck, life sucks...

Read the post, i was going to rip into them because they said 'ITS LIKE DEATH METAL, BUT LESS HEAVY'. It's fine if they want to listen to metalcore, i don't give a shit, but when they start making the other genres look bad/whatever word you wanna use, they need to be told right from wrong.

No, the thing that you cannot stand is that they compared it to death metal. Cause saying that it's like death metal but less heavy is not trying to make it look bad. Even if they are totally wrong, you do not have to get pissed about it.
And if they would have compared melodic death metal to death metal by saying melo is like death but less heavy, you wouldn't have gived a shit. You just hate metalcore and anytime you get a chance at bashing someone who listen to that kind of music you will do it. And if not, you just consider your music to be way much better in anyway, and you really see yourself as a much more better music connoisseur than them.

At 1/6/09 05:34 AM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 1/6/09 01:17 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Fuck, life sucks...

I guess yours does. Learn how to read.

Cause you think that I didn't read it properly?
that's cause you just don't know me.

The fact is, that even if your not bashing on metalcore fans or metalcore itself, you still consider that your music is way better. And that's what annoys me the most.
A lot of the members of the metal hell think that metalcore is shit, and that's their problem. A lot of us will say that they do not hate it, but they still consider that their music is way better.
And there's also a few of us who can just understand that you really do not have to compare different music genres all the time. So Bbues is not better than jazz. Classical music is not better than funk, and death metal is not better than deathcore.
Still, you can like death metal more than deathcore for many reasons. In fact death metal is way more technical than deathcore, it is also way more complexe and well composed.
But some deathcore fans may like that kind of music better, because bands like All That Remains have more catchy parts in their songs. With melodic chorus and clean vocals at some part of their music. And they may also really like the breakdowns.

The point I'm bringing up, is that I understand that SpeedMetalSandwich didn't like it that these guys made a bad comparison between death metal and metalcore, but not for the good reasons.

At 1/5/09 10:27 AM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote: I really dig Into the Archaic by Falls of Rauros. I had listened to it a few times before but this time it finally set in. It's great Black/Folk. You'd probably like it Ponos.

Then check out I will.

At 1/5/09 10:29 AM, mrdurgan wrote: just discovered the band blood of kingu through a blac kmetal obsessed friend, first time i think anyones thought of 'sumerian black metal' but its a cool idea. great concept, unique vocals, nice drumming & riffs. made by the same guy as drudkh. i might have to try hateforest too some time

I got their album last year, it was fairly good, I wasn't very impressed with the vocals and seeing as there's only one album I don't listen to it anymore. Also, DONT CHECK OUT HATE FOREST. They're really shit.

At 1/5/09 08:59 PM, Nev wrote: Way to go, you suck at using a microphone :).
I mean... thats commendable, yeah?
Fuck yeah!
Totally!
It rocks! Fuck talent. Fuck knowledge!
ANARCHY!

WOOOOOOOOO

And to answer your question: Its because they have their very own Hate Crew.
Can't be said for many bands :).

Dude, the hate crew is what their fans call themselves, like maggots for Slipknot. There's not some big worldwide crew who hate COB.

Wait.

At 1/6/09 01:17 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Oh teh noes !!1
Not another missed opportunity to bash on other people's favorite music ?!?

Fuck, life sucks...

You're a fuckwit pussy shit eater who deserves nothing less than a large old man fist rape session. Stop bitching. Or fuck off.

Either you guys have a weird way of showing affection to each other with all this bitching and drama or y'all are the most bitchy and opinionated club on the BBS.

Anyways:

Found myself listening to Dark Tranquility this morning. Got one of their albums, any suggestions on any other albums of theirs I could get?

Just noticed this post

At 1/5/09 06:49 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: What were the bands you were talking about?

I think I was asking if they had any Ensiferum ( not Death metal but I admit I was using hyperbole somewhat) in stock, and his reaction was that it would be somewhere next to Editors albums in the Rock/ pop section.

At 1/7/09 07:08 AM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: Found myself listening to Dark Tranquility this morning. Got one of their albums, any suggestions on any other albums of theirs I could get?

i would recommend getting hold of character and fiction, but when it comes to dark tranq they are all good, maybe damage done is a bit mediocre but it does have some awesome tracks on it. as well as those two i would say to keep and eye out for Haven as well. (also they are an amazing live band, they totally owned Bloodstock in 07 :P)

and yeh quite a few people in a here piss and moan at nothing, regularly..

At 1/7/09 07:13 AM, Charon wrote: i would recommend getting hold of character and fiction, but when it comes to dark tranq they are all good, maybe damage done is a bit mediocre but it does have some awesome tracks on it.

Always good to ehar that there are bands that even at their worst are still good.

as well as those two i would say to keep and eye out for Haven as well. (also they are an amazing live band, they totally owned Bloodstock in 07 :P)

Bah, I can never get to concerts. I hate going to them on my own and I don't know anyone who would be willing to go the them with me = ( Been trying to persuade people to go to Wacken Open Air with me for a few eyars now but to no avail = (

and yeh quite a few people in a here piss and moan at nothing, regularly..

Eh, fair enough.

At 1/6/09 11:26 AM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote:

At 1/6/09 09:50 AM, Bahamut wrote: Damn! I really don't understand how someone couldn't tell the difference between Cannibal Corpse and The Killers.

The dude was in fact wearing trousers that seemed to be almost falling off, so I'm guessing he listened to Hip Hop and the like and as thus assuemd anything with guitars in it is the same thing.

Oh right. It's a shame that since if he were to give me two random Hip Hop tracks, I'd try and find a similarity between the two, and I'm not into Hip Hop music at all.

At 1/6/09 01:30 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: I've been reading pages from quite a while back, and it seems during all the e-drama that constantly plagues this place, Bahamut is the only one who's always kept his cool.

For the most part, anyway.

Haha, there have been times when I caused some drama bullshit (most especially with Nev), but most of the time, I keep it cool. Also, I tend to avoid most drama floating around here so I'm not making it any worse or dragging it on.

At 1/7/09 07:13 AM, Charon wrote: and yeh quite a few people in a here piss and moan at nothing, regularly..

yup

At 1/7/09 09:18 AM, Bahamut wrote: (most especially with Nev)

haha I forgot about the days when you guys got to each other.

This club does need to resolve differences in musical tastes and just stop with the bitching. This kind of attitude and arguing is what gives metal fans a bad name. I guess a lot of people in here are just metal elitests who think that their music is better than everyone else's and that they're always right. It's quite sad. Music is supposed to bring us together, but it seems to tear us apart more. It's only music, World War III people.

At 1/7/09 05:54 AM, PenisClown wrote:

At 1/6/09 01:17 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Oh teh noes !!1
Not another missed opportunity to bash on other people's favorite music ?!?

Fuck, life sucks...

You're a fuckwit pussy shit eater who deserves nothing less than a large old man fist rape session. Stop bitching. Or fuck off.

Church bitch !

You didn't even read my last post and you dare complainning about my posts.
Do you know how you look? Your actually better at creating new insults than having any kind of a fucking opinion. You post is so freakin worthless, how am I supposed to answer to all your fucking random insults? With more insults? No... I won't waste my time on this, and I still consider that I can have opinions, and it's not some 15 years old angry hairy teenager who's going to make me stop. Your just like every single thugish teenager. Stop acting like a jerk and try making sense in your next post.

And I still believe that you guys don't have any kind of respect for metalcore, and I was just pointing out the fact that he was doing exactly what your accusing me of doing... "being a whinny bitch"

Talking about this... you guys always say that metalcore is not accepted in the Metal Hell and that we do not discuss that kind of music here... but that's probably the kind of music that we discuss the MOST in here...

So maybe you guys should start yourself a new clan and name it "The Mallcore Hating Crew"

You may hate me for my opinions, but I do not give a shit, so if you do not have anything constructive to say, don't bother posting, I won't bother reading.

Duff, Penis. Take it to the PM system. please.

Seven Tears Are Flowing To The River - win of a song.

At 1/7/09 04:46 PM, sirtom93 wrote: Seven Tears Are Flowing To The River - win of a song.

I guess it's alright. Nargaroth? That's the name of the band right?
is this another Tolkien rip off? :P

loll

At 1/7/09 04:57 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 1/7/09 04:46 PM, sirtom93 wrote: Seven Tears Are Flowing To The River - win of a song.

I guess it's alright. Nargaroth? That's the name of the band right?
is this another Tolkien rip off? :P

loll

I'm not a Tolkien expert enough to know the affiliation Nargaroth has with Tolkien.

At 1/7/09 05:06 PM, sirtom93 wrote:

At 1/7/09 04:57 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 1/7/09 04:46 PM, sirtom93 wrote: Seven Tears Are Flowing To The River - win of a song.

I guess it's alright. Nargaroth? That's the name of the band right?
is this another Tolkien rip off? :P

loll

I'm not a Tolkien expert enough to know the affiliation Nargaroth has with Tolkien.

I just read some stuff about it, and it doesn't seem to be related to Tolkien.

But I really like to read about black metal bands. I find their behavior and history to be even more entertaining than their music.

But I really like to read about black metal bands. I find their behavior and history to be even more entertaining than their music.

I also find it interesting. I watched a program ages ago on Burzum and people who were pretty obsessed with the band.

I'm happy because I just found out that Einherjer is back together. I hope they're working on an album.

At 1/6/09 09:50 AM, Bahamut wrote: Damn! I really don't understand how someone couldn't tell the difference between Cannibal Corpse and The Killers.

... there are similarities...

At 1/7/09 01:40 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: A lot of the members of the metal hell think that metalcore is shit, and that's their problem.

No, its our opinion. Or at least the accepted opinion of the Hell. This is a place for bashing Metalcore if we feel like it. This isn't a place to discuss matters -core, and as you pointed out in a later post, yes we do talk about -core more than anything else. But thats mainly because you don't cease in telling us how we don't like it. We know we don't. And we don't care. This is a place for not caring about Metalcore.
You don't go to a BNP meeting and discuss how 'Paki's are alright'... or how you'd present it: 'you don't like Paki's'.
In this club we're dicks to Metalcore. And thats the way it is.... CAUSE STONE COLD SAID SO!

Der der, der der, der der, der der nerrrrr!
There is some irony involved there, hilarious!

And there's also a few of us who can just understand that you really do not have to compare different music genres all the time. So Bbues is not better than jazz. Classical music is not better than funk, and death metal is not better than deathcore.

Classical is way better than Funk.

Still, you can like death metal more than deathcore for many reasons. In fact death metal is way more technical than deathcore, it is also way more complexe and well composed.
But some deathcore fans may like that kind of music better, because bands like All That Remains have more catchy parts in their songs. With melodic chorus and clean vocals at some part of their music. And they may also really like the breakdowns.

So to conclude: Death Metal is more technical, complex and better composed.
And some people like Deathcore.

Steven Hawkins is a genius.
And some people like Dr. Gillian McKeith.

She's a shitty TV doctor involved in a poor health program if that analogy doesn't translate across the ocean(s).
I'm also being very generous in compared Death Metal (which is fairly poor) to Steven Hawkins (who is ace), but for the sake of argument, yeah?

At 1/7/09 05:54 AM, PenisClown wrote: Dude, the hate crew is what their fans call themselves, like maggots for Slipknot. There's not some big worldwide crew who hate COB.

I know that you tool. It was just my way of pointing out that their fanbase has a lame name.

At 1/7/09 01:19 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: haha I forgot about the days when you guys got to each other.

We used to be cool cats, until Disney broke up the love.

I still have Disney though, so I'm up on the break up :).

At 1/7/09 06:37 PM, Nev wrote:

At 1/7/09 01:40 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: A lot of the members of the metal hell think that metalcore is shit, and that's their problem.

No, its our opinion. Or at least the accepted opinion of the Hell. This is a place for bashing Metalcore if we feel like it. This isn't a place to discuss matters -core, and as you pointed out in a later post, yes we do talk about -core more than anything else. But thats mainly because you don't cease in telling us how we don't like it. We know we don't. And we don't care. This is a place for not caring about Metalcore.

It's not every member in here who dislike metalcore, but everyone in here likes metal, since it's a metal clan. So maybe we should stop discussing metalcore... or maybe you guys should just get the fact that there is no way you can just bash every thing and never ever get to face anyone who's not sharing opinions with you. So bash metalcore all you want, but just get the fact that I will fight back, as a core fan.

And it's not all my fault if we are discussing metalcore... just read the previous posts, and you'll realse I'm never the one starting all the "metalcore debates"...

In this club we're dicks to Metalcore. And thats the way it is.... CAUSE STONE COLD SAID SO!

Der der, der der, der der, der der nerrrrr!
There is some irony involved there, hilarious!

I think that hate crews are not allowed on Newgrounds anyway... so I really do not see the point of keep on whinning about core.

And there's also a few of us who can just understand that you really do not have to compare different music genres all the time. So Bbues is not better than jazz. Classical music is not better than funk, and death metal is not better than deathcore.

Classical is way better than Funk.

I like Classical more than Funk.
For many reasons.... but some people may like Funk more for OTHER REASONS !!! and that's my point. You do not have to compare different genres of music.

Still, you can like death metal more than deathcore for many reasons. In fact death metal is way more technical than deathcore, it is also way more complexe and well composed.
But some deathcore fans may like that kind of music better, because bands like All That Remains have more catchy parts in their songs. With melodic chorus and clean vocals at some part of their music. And they may also really like the breakdowns.

So to conclude: Death Metal is more technical, complex and better composed.

maybe I shouldn't have said well composed, cause I know some great deathcore bands, with technical riffs and really well composed songs.

And some people like Deathcore.

yes, for the breakdowns, heavy drums, for the great variations in vocals. For the catchy melodies and chorus.
And you can feel much more emotions in deathcore than death metal.

is that making any of these genres better than the other one?
No...

Steven Hawkins is a genius.
And some people like Dr. Gillian McKeith.

She's a shitty TV doctor involved in a poor health program if that analogy doesn't translate across the ocean(s).

worst argument ever... deathcore has a lot of great bands, so please just avoid cheap comparisons like these.

But if you guys don't want to discuss deathcore, that is FUCKING FINE WITH ME !!! But please just stop being dicks to music you don't like.
I do not come in here to say how much I freakin hate Doom Metal or Black Metal. If you want to avoid argueing about metalcore, just avoid talking about it all the time.

Duff, do you realize that by arguing back, you're defeating the entire purpose of the argument you're making?

At 1/7/09 06:59 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: So maybe we should stop discussing metalcore... or maybe you guys should just get the fact that there is no way you can just bash every thing and never ever get to face anyone who's not sharing opinions with you.

Of course we can't, but this is a house of Metal and under this roof you should keep your feeling tucked up inside out of respect :).

We all know how you feel about -core. And its not going to stop people making comments about it. They're just going to make comments about you too.

I think that hate crews are not allowed on Newgrounds anyway... so I really do not see the point of keep on whinning about core.

We don't whine about -core so much as whine about ignorance towards Metal.
-Core just happens to be related to that 99% of the time.

You do not have to compare different genres of music.

Maybe we want to.
You compare to understand why you like something more than something else. There is nothing wrong with that.

And you can feel much more emotions in deathcore than death metal.

Nausea isn't an emotion :P.

But if you guys don't want to discuss deathcore, that is FUCKING FINE WITH ME !!! But please just stop being dicks to music you don't like.

Why don't you just be a little more secure in yourself and your taste in music.

I do not come in here to say how much I freakin hate Doom Metal or Black Metal. If you want to avoid argueing about metalcore, just avoid talking about it all the time.

Would you like Doom Metal if they had lovely fringes?

At 1/7/09 07:23 PM, Nev wrote: Nausea isn't an emotion :P.

Would you like Doom Metal if they had lovely fringes?

i love reading your little come backs ( i suppose that is the correct term for them) they make me smile

At 1/7/09 07:23 PM, Nev wrote:

At 1/7/09 06:59 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: So maybe we should stop discussing metalcore... or maybe you guys should just get the fact that there is no way you can just bash every thing and never ever get to face anyone who's not sharing opinions with you.

Of course we can't, but this is a house of Metal and under this roof you should keep your feeling tucked up inside out of respect :).

funny

We all know how you feel about -core. And its not going to stop people making comments about it. They're just going to make comments about you too.

of course :P
but as I said, if you want to keep bashing metalcore, it's alright, but don't expect me to do nothing about it.

I think that hate crews are not allowed on Newgrounds anyway... so I really do not see the point of keep on whinning about core.

We don't whine about -core so much as whine about ignorance towards Metal.
-Core just happens to be related to that 99% of the time.

and am I ignorant about Metal?
Please... if you say yes, that's probabl because you don't know me.
I can understand that you may hate the Atreyu's girly fans who go around saying how metal they are...
but do not hate the band itself, hate the fans!

You do not have to compare different genres of music.

Maybe we want to.
You compare to understand why you like something more than something else. There is nothing wrong with that.

comparing to understand why you maylike something more is alright, comparing just to say that something else is pure shit, is pointless.

And you can feel much more emotions in deathcore than death metal.

Nausea isn't an emotion :P.

funny. I wasn't talking about emocore bands like Bring Me The Horizon, but more like Threat Signal

But if you guys don't want to discuss deathcore, that is FUCKING FINE WITH ME !!! But please just stop being dicks to music you don't like.

Why don't you just be a little more secure in yourself and your taste in music.

oh, I am. But just remembe how we started this discussion.
When SpeedMetalSandwich said what he said about those metalcore kids, I just made a joke, remember? But you guys took it all too seriously.
And I do like fighting with you guys, if I would really be pissed, I wouldn't want to keep posting here.

I do not come in here to say how much I freakin hate Doom Metal or Black Metal. If you want to avoid argueing about metalcore, just avoid talking about it all the time.

Would you like Doom Metal if they had lovely fringes?

as I said... you really do not have to look like a dick to play core music.

Proof
(they may not be as sexy as those black metal guys with their corpsepaint in the wood, but they aren't fags)

At 1/7/09 09:01 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: but as I said, if you want to keep bashing metalcore, it's alright, but don't expect me to do nothing about it.

But why bother? You're not going to change anyones mind. In fact you're going to make us all like it less because you're trying to shove it down our throat.
If you're defending something where its not welcome then do it once or twice and then stop once you realise the futility of it. Don't do it a fuckload of times, leave for a while and then come back and do it all again.
This is a loving community (albeit in a hateful, twattish way :P), join in and just let it slide. Its not like Metalcore is the only thing we slate, everything gets slated in here. Power Metal, Death, Black, Drone and all the troo bands that are just plain bad, etc.

and am I ignorant about Metal?
but do not hate the band itself, hate the fans!

I don't know, are you?
I wasn't aiming that at you, but rather the folk SpeedySandwich was on about.
And why can't I hate the band? I don't like the music, I'll hate them and accept that some girly Atreyu fans are probably quite pretty :).

Hey, Duff.

Metalcore sucks.

I now await your essay of a reply that I won't read.