At 6/13/08 05:18 AM, Goatchrist wrote: I've also taken a deep look into guitar anatomy the last few months and me and a friend have already built a few guitars from scratch

Sweet, so you know what im going through now. Well i have a question or 3 for you, one, the headstock and the nuts and whatnot for the strings, did you line them up with some scale or some crap or did you just grab another neck and put it down and drill the holes.

Second question, that is a fucking sweet finish, is that the natural wood grain or is that a plastic mould over the wood. If it isn't what did you use for the finish and how did you get that crazy glass/gloss finish on it.

Third question, how are you?

At 6/13/08 05:26 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: Sweet, so you know what im going through now. Well i have a question or 3 for you, one, the headstock and the nuts and whatnot for the strings, did you line them up with some scale or some crap or did you just grab another neck and put it down and drill the holes.

We just took another neck and drew a mold with the exact dimensions. We used a fat paddle neck (like the ones they sell on Warmoth/Rockinger but without the drillings) and a pre-finished saddle.

Second question, that is a fucking sweet finish, is that the natural wood grain or is that a plastic mould over the wood. If it isn't what did you use for the finish and how did you get that crazy glass/gloss finish on it.

Natural wood grain. To be honest, I was too scared of fucking up the arched top, so we let it get made - so the finish wasn't done by us, but I was fucking amazed by the look of it.

We also made a typical strat with a nice matt white finish and a flying V with a black binding and the same white finish, but as these were our first, the finish wasn't quite perfect - that's why I didn't want to fuck up the finish on the Warbird.

Third question, how are you?

Doing great, thanks. I'm still so glad that I moved. I love this place. How are you?

At 6/13/08 05:39 AM, Goatchrist wrote: We just took another neck and drew a mold with the exact dimensions.

Sweet, so i did that bit right on my one.

Natural wood grain.

HOT. That is a nice slab of wood you picked up there.

We also made a typical strat with a nice matt white finish and a flying V with a black binding and the same white finish, but as these were our first, the finish wasn't quite perfect - that's why I didn't want to fuck up the finish on the Warbird.

The strat sounds sexy, and so does the flying V. I wouldn't mind seeing them.

Doing great, thanks. I'm still so glad that I moved. I love this place.

Sounds good man, glad to hear you're happy and all.

How are you?

Me, im not to bad, can't complain. And now another question related to them guitars you're making, do you guys have templates or are you just doing it all free-hand?

At 6/13/08 06:32 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: HOT. That is a nice slab of wood you picked up there.

Yeah, that's also the most expensive part of the whole thing :P

The strat sounds sexy, and so does the flying V. I wouldn't mind seeing them.

I have only mobile phone pictures right now (and I completely ripped the V apart again) but I'm building a website now and when it's done, I'll give you the link. It's going to have pictures of all models we made so far.

Me, im not to bad, can't complain. And now another question related to them guitars you're making, do you guys have templates or are you just doing it all free-hand?

Good.

It depends on the shape. For example, I suck at drawing :P My friend doesn't, so he does the LP shape free-hand, but all others need templates.

At 6/13/08 06:48 AM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 6/13/08 06:32 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: HOT. That is a nice slab of wood you picked up there.

Yeah, that's also the most expensive part of the whole thing :P

You're telling me :/

I have only mobile phone pictures right now (and I completely ripped the V apart again) but I'm building a website now and when it's done, I'll give you the link. It's going to have pictures of all models we made so far.

Sweet, that should look pretty awesome.

It depends on the shape. For example, I suck at drawing :P My friend doesn't, so he does the LP shape free-hand, but all others need templates.

I suck at drawing as well, so i made a template for mine that i basically took straight from a rip off strat, but gave it features of a Strat and features of a Tele, and whatnot, just to cover myself for the whole copyright ordeal, you wont pick out anything exactly the same if you were to compare mine to a real Strat.

Also another question. The frets, professionally cut or done on the cheap (but properly) by yourself?

At 6/13/08 06:54 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: Sweet, that should look pretty awesome.

I hope so. I'm working on a little myspace site and another friend of mine will do the real thing later.

I suck at drawing as well, so i made a template for mine that i basically took straight from a rip off strat, but gave it features of a Strat and features of a Tele, and whatnot, just to cover myself for the whole copyright ordeal, you wont pick out anything exactly the same if you were to compare mine to a real Strat.

Yeah, that's a good thing. Fender seem to be pretty picky about copies. So do Gibson.

Also another question. The frets, professionally cut or done on the cheap (but properly) by yourself?

Another thing I didn't quite have the guts to do. It's professionally cut, by a German craftsman.

At 6/13/08 07:15 AM, Goatchrist wrote: Another thing I didn't quite have the guts to do. It's professionally cut, by a German craftsman.

I should have gotten mine professionally cut as well, instead i found the exact scale for 25.5" necks and cut them myself (mitre saw if your interested in doing it yourself), except i may have screwed up 1 or 2 of em. Good thing this guitars only going up on the wall for show, my next one is gonna be my own design.

Also, metal.

Happy 18th to me!

I can now enjoy the wondrous spoils of buying Alcohol and many other previously forlorn commodities.

Australia FTW

To bad it's still the 13th and not the 14th in NG time.

At 6/13/08 02:41 AM, Oppugnant wrote: Iron Maiden, when it comes to Metal are pretty soft, in fact a lot of people call them Hard Rock (ugh) yet they are tenfold heavier than Zepplin.

Iron Maiden soft? Haha, i don't know what you've been listening to my friend. Despite being in the metal game for twenty something years, they still are pretty heavy. You obviously can't compare them to Nile or Belphegor, but still.

At 6/13/08 10:18 AM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Iron Maiden soft? Haha, i don't know what you've been listening to my friend. Despite being in the metal game for twenty something years, they still are pretty heavy. You obviously can't compare them to Nile or Belphegor, but still.

Yeah I meant in the broad scheme of things (comparing to everything, I mean). Don't get me wrong I love Maiden. I was just using it as a comparison as one of the softer bands in Metal.

There are probably softer bands that are still classified as metal. I just don't know of them to use :P

So, two new Die Apokalyptischen songs are up on their Myspace. The new album's gonna be called 'Licht'. The two new songs are 'Es Wird Schlimmer' and 'Der Weg'.

At 6/13/08 10:07 AM, Oppugnant wrote: the 13th

My luck's been pretty bad lately. :(

I just got Opeth's latest album Watershed, and I must say, I'm impressed. There's a lot of guitar heavy parts, and the solos are pretty awesome. There's also some random stuff (a chick singing on the first track Coil) and some electronic sounding parts on Hessian Peel but it's overall great. Anyone else pick it up?

At 6/13/08 10:52 AM, Oppugnant wrote: There are probably softer bands that are still classified as metal. I just don't know of them to use :P

Rhapsody and Fairyland.

like, honestly.

At 6/12/08 11:33 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote:

I admit I forgot that little tidbit. Either way, I've never heard Bleach, is it worth buying?

well it depends, there is still a massive hardcore influence (the good stuff like black flag) and post-punk/noise rock like big black or scratch acid. theres also the begginings of the poppier nevermind style with a couple of songs like 'about a girl'. if you already like nirvana/grunge plus any of that then go for it.

plus theres the fact that the mainstream music media are generally ignorant bastards when it comes to rock and metal history- elvis came and invented it, then jimi became the greatest guitarist to ever live ever, then after the terrible prog era rock music was saved by the sex pistols. the end.

Is that your opinion or the media's?

haha sorry i was being totally tongue in cheek. yeah, thats the 'traditional' media interpritation. big respect to terrorizer magazine & similar that give a more researched balanced view. they had a great prog special a while back that went into the more heavy & obscure stuff and how it all relates to metal.

At 6/13/08 01:34 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 6/13/08 10:52 AM, Oppugnant wrote: There are probably softer bands that are still classified as metal. I just don't know of them to use :P

Rhapsody and Fairyland.

like, honestly.

Also: Power Quest.

honestly my favorite metal band is paradise lost, they rock. They basically invented gothic metal. listin to there song Sedative God, its one of my favorite.

yo everybody i have returned from my weeks holiday in the Lake District climbing mountains and walking around places :D has been awesome and damn tiring, not much metal listened to mainly techno/DnB/Trance etc although i do have a rather large Type O negative craving atm which i will be binging on over the next couple of days :P

so... whats been happening in the hell then..?

At 6/13/08 02:35 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

At 6/13/08 01:34 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 6/13/08 10:52 AM, Oppugnant wrote: There are probably softer bands that are still classified as metal. I just don't know of them to use

Opeth
Týr
Agalloch
Any power metal band almost.
Satyricon
Solefald
Vintersorg

Whateva.

At 6/13/08 05:18 AM, Goatchrist wrote: and the thing sounds pretty sweet.

You built that from scratch?
Wow. It looks very professional. I like the finish especially :).

At 6/13/08 10:07 AM, Oppugnant wrote: Happy 18th to me!

I can now enjoy the wondrous spoils of buying Alcohol and many other previously forlorn commodities.

Australia FTW

Happy Birthday :).
Being 18 is always special... unless you're American.

At 6/13/08 01:19 PM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote: Anyone else pick it up?

It's good. I've only listened to it once and so I've not soaked it all up. But for a first listen... like I said.. it's good.

At 6/13/08 02:39 PM, werty10089 wrote: honestly my favorite metal band is paradise lost, they rock. They basically invented gothic metal. listin to there song Sedative God, its one of my favorite.

I remember them supporting Opeth and me being insanely, insanely bored during their set.
But to each their own.

Happy birthday, Oppugnant. And welcome back, GoatChrist and Charon.

At 6/13/08 05:45 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote:

At 6/13/08 10:52 AM, Oppugnant wrote: There are probably softer bands that are still classified as metal. I just don't know of them to use

Opeth
Týr
Agalloch
Satyricon
Solefald
Vintersorg

err...what?

Any power metal band almost.

You're right about that, at least.

Listening to Unexpect: '_wE, Invaders'.
I like it. First I've listened of Unexpect besides the first song on In a Flesh Aquarium which I accidentally played thinking it was _wE, Invaders.

It's very good :). Interesting, well produced, good musically, good leads and nice a quirky :).

At 6/13/08 08:25 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 6/13/08 05:45 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote:

At 6/13/08 10:52 AM, Oppugnant wrote: There are probably softer bands that are still classified as metal. I just don't know of them to use

Opeth
Týr
Agalloch
Satyricon
Solefald
Vintersorg

err...what?

^^This.

Those bands are totally heavier than Iron Maiden.

Rotting Christ coming to Calgary and Edmonton. Fuck yes. I'm there.

At 6/13/08 10:07 AM, Oppugnant wrote: Happy 18th to me!

Happy birthday dude! Have a good one, get smashed, and seckz.

At 6/13/08 05:45 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote: Any power metal band almost.

Doesn't Symphony X count as Prog and Power?

Sort of?

Maybe?

At 6/13/08 05:45 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote: Any power metal band almost.

I can list a few power metal bands that SOUND heavy, but in terms of 'OMFG kvlt' heavy...they fail.

Stratovarius
Hammerfall
Symphony X
Stormwarrior
Blind Guardian

Thats about all i can think of for now.

At 6/13/08 08:25 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

err...what?

Lol Agalloch has entirely acoustic albums, Opeth has soft songs, and blah whateva.
I don't listen to metal anymore, I cut it out of my life and only listen to björk now :S

At 6/14/08 07:37 AM, Kiddmeizter wrote: Lol Agalloch has entirely acoustic albums, Opeth has soft songs, and blah whateva.
I don't listen to metal anymore, I cut it out of my life and only listen to björk now :S

Björk sounds like a beached whale.

I HAFFINZ TEH NEW TYR ALBUM.

Sinklars Visa is the shit.

At 6/14/08 07:37 AM, Kiddmeizter wrote: Lol Agalloch has entirely acoustic albums, Opeth has soft songs, and blah whateva.
I don't listen to metal anymore, I cut it out of my life and only listen to björk now :S

Lawl. An Icelandic listening to Björk. How cliché.

I can't get into her. I have ten of her albums, but they don't do it for me... or the ones I've listened to don't anyway... of which there is two and both are early.