At 4/9/08 02:13 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 4/8/08 04:29 AM, Oppugnant wrote:

At 4/7/08 10:32 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

Metal bands I like:

Do many of those band are NOT metal.

Thats your opinion dude

If I list a bunch of bands and say they are metal, it's also my opinion.
If those bands were say U2, Foo Fighters, Linkin Park, Green Day, etc.

Then I'm totally wrong regardless of my opinion of them.

Which in this case you listed bands that are clearly NOT Metal.

I consider Metalcore and Nu-Metal as metal, because... there is a lot of specific similarities with a lot of other metal styles.

The difference's outweigh the similarities.

Yeah... just like Power Metal and Black Metal are fucking different... but still... both of those are considered metal... but not metalcore? nah, you can't change my mind with that kind of argument, but maybe if you could bring a little more points, maybe I could understand why you guys try to keep metalcore out of metal music...

PM and BM share similarities with Metal because they actually play it. They incorporate heaviness speed, aggression into there music. They write songs to a specific structure that applies primarily to Metal.

Whilst Metalcore on the other hand uses Hardcore Punk/Emo influences to write there music. Yes, they also use some metal as well, I'm not denying that. But just because they do, doesn't make them Metal.

Hardly.

Hardly? please... you probably know All That Remains... if those drums are not metal, tell me what the fuck they are.

Because drums determine the genre.

On another note.

Is anyone familiar with Wolves in the Throne Room?
I've been listening to a few of there songs and I'm really enjoying them.

Make get their albums later.

At 4/9/08 11:48 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Also jazz musicians were the first to use double bass pedals. I don't think they did it in the metal sense, just like with blast beats, but they were the first. Jazz was the first in a lot of stuff.

That's true and I never denied that. As I said, if I want to examine the roots of all that is heavy metal, I could go back to 50s blues, Hendrix' influence on leads, etc. but I was basically talking about the modern classification of these techniques, and in the case of doublebass, "The Who" definitely set their mark.

I hope that I could at least make some people understand what's metal with my post on the last page.

At 4/10/08 12:54 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: You almost make it sound like you know more about metal than me >:(

It's funny because its true :P

At 4/10/08 04:28 AM, Oppugnant wrote: On another note.

Is anyone familiar with Wolves in the Throne Room?
I've been listening to a few of there songs and I'm really enjoying them.

Make get their albums later.

LAWL GET. I've heard very good things about them and I have one of their albums but have yet to really listen to it. So yah, give it a shot.

Also, we are all now enrolled in the GChrist music School. Tests on Tuesday.

At 4/10/08 07:56 AM, X-Imperium-X wrote: Also, we are all now enrolled in the GChrist music School. Tests on Tuesday.

Shit shit SHIT! I haven't started studying, anybody mind sending me their notes?

At 4/10/08 07:56 AM, X-Imperium-X wrote:
Also, we are all now enrolled in the GChrist music School. Tests on Tuesday.

Fuck. Can we play our instruments if we fail?

D:

At 4/10/08 08:02 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote:

At 4/10/08 07:56 AM, X-Imperium-X wrote: Also, we are all now enrolled in the GChrist music School. Tests on Tuesday.

Shit shit SHIT! I haven't started studying, anybody mind sending me their notes?

Let's make sexual passes at him, then we'll get A+ for sure.

At 4/9/08 10:23 PM, AngelinFlames wrote: How many of you guys listen to In Flames or Armored Saint?

In Flames i don´t like, Armored Saint fuck yeah.

At 4/10/08 07:56 AM, X-Imperium-X wrote:

Also, we are all now enrolled in the GChrist music School. Tests on Tuesday.

My dog ate my homework, my Nan just died and I have a bad case of the flue and feel like I'm dying. Can I have an extension please?

So I heard Metallica will be playing shit from their next album on their next few shows.

Sounds promising.

At 4/9/08 10:23 PM, AngelinFlames wrote: How many of you guys listen to In Flames or Armored Saint?

In Flames, yes, but only The Jester Race right now.
Armoured Saint - Who?

At 4/10/08 12:54 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anyway, someone knows when Wintersun and Children of Bodom are releasing their next records?

Wintersun are still working on their second album. It seems there's yet another delay for the album since May is too soon now considering the lack of information I've heard from them over the last few months. Damn, they really are taking their "Time" on this album.

At 4/10/08 11:36 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: So I heard Metallica will be playing shit from their next album on their next few shows.

Hopefully I'll find out those new songs on the net.

At 4/10/08 12:35 AM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 4/9/08 11:51 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

No problem at all, and you're always welcome to ask any questions you want to.

Why is the sky blue and yet gray all at the same time?

Exams will be starting tomorrow. You can't bribe me, forget it :P

In other news, my ESP LTD arrived today. It does its job well :)

At 4/9/08 10:36 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Why is it that Metalcore (which uses a lot of double-bass, speed palmed muted riffs, like thrash metal bands do and other stuff like that) isnt considered metal ?

Too light at most parts, then they try to be heavy. Like, Death metal heavy, and fail.

At 4/10/08 02:20 PM, IrishGun wrote:

At 4/9/08 10:36 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Why is it that Metalcore (which uses a lot of double-bass, speed palmed muted riffs, like thrash metal bands do and other stuff like that) isnt considered metal ?

Too light at most parts, then they try to be heavy. Like, Death metal heavy, and fail.

That's an oversimplified version, but yes.
For example:
DIS IS TO TEH RATS!!!!1!one1111!

So, I had to re-'buy' A Matter of Life and Death, and in my time without it, I forgot that while other old bands may attempt to beat the dead horse of their career and it may attempt to get back up, when Iron Maiden do it, the horse jumps the fuck up and does a few backflips.

Also, remember how no bands sing about Dinosaurs? Well, I took the liberty of writing a song about a Liopleurodon.

At 4/10/08 07:56 AM, X-Imperium-X wrote:

At 4/10/08 04:28 AM, Oppugnant wrote:

Also, we are all now enrolled in the GChrist music School. Tests on Tuesday.

can we listen to music in class?

At 4/10/08 04:43 PM, Lost-Thought wrote:

At 4/10/08 07:56 AM, X-Imperium-X wrote:

At 4/10/08 04:28 AM, Oppugnant wrote:

Also, we are all now enrolled in the GChrist music School. Tests on Tuesday.

can we listen to music in class?

I second this question.

Aye, what's going on?
What's all this talk about school?

Wow I just discovered the talents of buckethead (not really metal) hes awesome.
Also I learnt how to play "fear of the dark" by iron maiden on guitar.

Okay having heard and loved Jesu I was naturally interested in a Black/Shoegaze band from France called Alcest so I checked out their first full length and it's incredible. It really makes me want to check out more Shoegaze. So if anyone has any Shoegaze recommendations it would be nice if you could shoot them my way.

And while I'm talking about them, to anyone who likes Jesu (Sense Offender and Idio are the only ones I know of) or just generally anyone looking for some uplifting music that's slightly black metal influenced please check out Alcest's Souvenirs d'un autre monde.

TakeNoPrisoners, I've listened to Alcest and while very similar to Jesu and definitely a wonderful soundscape, they cannot best the almighty Justin K. Broadrick.

At 4/10/08 05:35 PM, kylexthexpostman wrote: Aye, what's going on?
What's all this talk about school?

Exams.

That cock of a teacher wants to test us over our knowledge.

OF DANCE

Smeagol already passed an exam about metal

HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW ABOUT EXTREME METALZ!!!

At 4/10/08 08:10 PM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote: Okay having heard and loved Jesu I was naturally interested in a Black/Shoegaze band from France called Alcest so I checked out their first full length and it's incredible. It really makes me want to check out more Shoegaze. So if anyone has any Shoegaze recommendations it would be nice if you could shoot them my way.

Get My Bloody Valentine's album "Loveless." It's fantastic. My Bloody Valentine are the most important shoegaze band, in my opinion, as they basically set the groundwork for all other shoegaze bands to come.

Here are some other shoegaze bands, and bands related to shoegaze, influencing shoegze or taking influence from it:
M83
Sigur Ros
The Jesus and Mary Chain
Ride
Swervedriver
Mew
Silversun Pickups
The Verve
Catherine Wheel
Slowdive

now that i'm talking about it, i'm gonna go listen to some shoegaze...

At 4/10/08 03:51 PM, batman64 wrote: Did someone say Heavy?
Picked up The Red Album by Baroness the other day and it is HEAVY as fuck.

My friend Robin has been telling me about them, I think I'm gonna get him to burn it for me.

At 4/10/08 09:06 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Smeagol already passed an exam about metal

HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW ABOUT EXTREME METALZ!!!

I got "Expert Metalhead" so I figure I missed like 4 questions. Do I get a prize?

On a few things:

I'm skipping school.

Le Secret will always be better than Souveniers IMO.

Dream Theater's best release is either Awake or Images and Worlds.

I don't have class tomorrow, so I'm getting hammered in true collegiate fashion.

and Bill, I still think Baroness is over-rated. But more power to you man, glad you enjoyed it.

as I impress my opinions on everyone. Muahahahahahahaha

j/k

At 4/10/08 08:38 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote: TakeNoPrisoners, I've listened to Alcest and while very similar to Jesu and definitely a wonderful soundscape, they cannot best the almighty Justin K. Broadrick.

While I'm sure I'll probably listen to Jesu more overall, it was awesome to hear similar music but with the Black Metal influence. They're both very similar but in many ways are both justifiably different.

And speaking of Justin I'm interested in checking out Godflesh. Where do you think I should start?

At 4/10/08 09:12 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: now that i'm talking about it, i'm gonna go listen to some shoegaze...

I'll be checking them all out sometime soon. Thank you.

At 4/10/08 09:17 PM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote:

At 4/10/08 08:38 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote:

And speaking of Justin I'm interested in checking out Godflesh. Where do you think I should start?

Streetcleaner.

Then get Selfless.