At 12/18/07 04:56 PM, Nev wrote: I'll try Dragonland if you give me an album recommendation.

Oh, sorry... you did :).

At 12/18/07 03:34 PM, davaca wrote: I joined some time ago, probably around may or june. I kind of stopped comming here thanks to vacation (strangely, the internet is much less funn when you can go out every time you feel like it.) and recently, university. I believe I posted a "I'm back" message two days ago.

People come and go. I was absent for a year, came back because of GoatChrist, stayed because of the newbs. Though I think our opinions on the internet differ, especially now. I could go outside, but its damn near 20 degrees.

I also just kind of noticed that the childish habbit of giving crappy bands crappy names still hasn't died down yet, and wanted to respond to it.

You call it childish, I call it beating a dead horse. I was being tongue-in-cheek and I guess you missed it. Frankly, the names I used are very, very played out, but I always accept new ones if they're funny. And they pop up.

(you know, I might just not be tr00 enough...)

I don't listen to "troo" stuff often, in fact barely. I resent the culture some times because of the obsession with being more and more underground, however:

Lifelover

lawls at the band pic. These guys are serious. It may be an undercut to make fun of a band's image, but it was funny regardless. I personally don't listen to them.

Herfst

Never heard of them, but they are independent and without an LP. Troo kvlt indeed, well-played.

Ancient rites

Good stuff

I

Sorry, but yawn

Kreator

Not my favorite, still good

My dying Bride

Good

Tankard

Don't know them, not a Thrash fan

Leng Tch'e

Were good, going downhill IMO

Sabaton

Power metal isn't my thing either (ask the other members). Another lulzworthy band pic though.

Sonata arctica

see above, minus the lulzworthy

Rotting Christ

Excellent.

Nanowar

if its Manowar and you typo'd, then they are classic, even though I don't like them that much. I googled it just in case (I've been surprised before by one-letter-off band names) and apparently a Nanowar parody thing exists. If its them, IDK...

I think I can say I have a rather varied taste. Pretty much anything that's called metal, and quite a lot of music that's not.

I'd definitely say you're in, and its not like I listen to exclusively metal either. I just enjoy it the most.

oh, and mate... don't think I don't know half the bands here. I'm would be the first one to admit my knowledge isn't that great, but you're not exactly talking about underground here.;)

I know that. This isn't the Metal Archives board or even something worse than that. But your attitude leaves something to be desired. Its a little condescending, because this thread wasn't going to be and isn't going to be anything but what it is not. Its how I remember it when I was a newfag, just in reverse. Pertinent discussion is always welcome, but if you want more serious conversation, hit up another board. Not that I'm trying to push you out or anything, but what you see is what you get.

Because this pic came from a shining show, a week ago.
Yes, that Kvarforth
and yes, that's Maniac (Skitliv's touring with shining and hellsaw)
I don't really care that much myself, but I thought it was funny.

At 12/17/07 05:14 PM, hotmayo wrote: Wow, you need to calm down. You guys are way too stressed. I don't think I'll post in this thread anymore

Who said you were even allowed to? Go back to listening to Screamo like Slipknot and BFMV, cut your wrists and wait until you die from blood loss.

At 12/18/07 03:34 PM, davaca wrote: I don't really care that much myself, but I thought it was funny.

That picture has so much gayds that I think I puked.

At 12/18/07 10:23 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 12/17/07 01:11 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

Lucky fucking you.

I know. You've said about how much of an asshole your mum is when it comes to metal.

"It's the devil's music." she likes to say.

At 12/18/07 02:55 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: (Except the Catholic Crew, but as I'm sure praying is a Protestant idea, screw that)

I'm offended. Where did you get that bullshit notion that praying is a Protestant idea? Either way, it's wrong.

I'm going to go on a limb and assume most of you are atheists, so be thankful in that I've added an 'I don't pray' column.

Not true for me.

If you help me, I shall bestow upon ye the secret of the 'Mandolin shred'.

Please don't.

1. How often do you pray? (Everyday, sometimes, never, other)

Sometimes

2. When do you usually pray? (Morning-Evening, Anytime, Other, Never)

Morning-Evening.

3. Where do you usually pray? (Home, Church, School, Other, I don't pray anywhere)

Home/Church

4. How do you pray? (Bow your head, Close your eyes, kneel, other, I don't pray)

Close my eyes and Bow my head

5. Why do you pray? (Get closer to God, Thank God, Say sorry for Sins, some big word that I can't read because I've written essays shorter than that, Praise God, Others, No need to pray)

Thank God, forgiveness of sins, although I go to Reconciliation anyway.

So, if you guys would help me (My RE teacher may be concerned about the people I talk with, but I don't really give a monkey's) that would be great.

I'll need your first name too.

Alex.

At 12/18/07 02:55 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: 1. How often do you pray? (Everyday, sometimes, never, other)

Everyday.

2. When do you usually pray? (Morning-Evening, Anytime, Other, Never)

Anytime.

3. Where do you usually pray? (Home, Church, School, Other, I don't pray anywhere)

Home, School, Church.

4. How do you pray? (Bow your head, Close your eyes, kneel, other, I don't pray)

Bow my head and close my eyes.

5. Why do you pray? (Get closer to God, Thank God, Say sorry for Sins, some big word that I can't read because I've written essays shorter than that, Praise God, Others, No need to pray)

Praise god, Sorry for Sins, Thank God.

I'll need your first name too.

Ronan.

At 12/18/07 05:06 PM, IrishGun wrote: Who said you were even allowed to? Go back to listening to Screamo like Slipknot and BFMV, cut your wrists and wait until you die from blood loss.

Just to be smartass Slipknot are not screamo. They're Nu-Metal if you dont know.

Didn't do the bracket thing, Read that afterwards, Sorry :P

At 12/18/07 02:55 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

Anyway, here goes, it works that you pick an option in the brackets in response to the question:

1. How often do you pray? (Everyday, sometimes, never, other)

Fridays,On Special occasions, I'll do It everyday for a week. (personal troubles, or religious festivals)

2. When do you usually pray? (Morning-Evening, Anytime, Other, Never)

Evening.

3. Where do you usually pray? (Home, Church, School, Other, I don't pray anywhere)

I have a special place I use for Blót.

4. How do you pray? (Bow your head, Close your eyes, kneel, other, I don't pray)

Depends Really, If you're going to Pray to Týr for courage, Then you certainly don't do the same thing as when you pray to Freyr for Fertility, And Crops.

5. Why do you pray? (Get closer to God, Thank God, Say sorry for Sins, some big word that I can't read because I've written essays shorter than that, Praise God, Others, No need to pray)

Praise the gods, Ask for help.

At 12/18/07 04:56 PM, Nev wrote: Avant-Garde.

Then in addition to Arcturus and Solefald, check out Fleurety, Sigh, Age of Silence, Virus, and Ved Buens Ende.

For prog, check out Psychotic Waltz, Vanden Plas, Age of Nemesis, Planet X, Cronian, Spiral Architect, Communic, Zero Hour, and Blotted Science (I'm pretty sure you already know Spastic Ink).

At 12/18/07 06:03 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Then in addition to Arcturus and Solefald, check out Fleurety, Sigh, Age of Silence, Virus, and Ved Buens Ende.

For prog, check out Psychotic Waltz, Vanden Plas, Age of Nemesis, Planet X, Cronian, Spiral Architect, Communic, Zero Hour, and Blotted Science (I'm pretty sure you already know Spastic Ink).

Any chance you could be a bit more specific in terms of albums :). Just one by each that you think is best.

At 12/18/07 06:06 PM, Nev wrote: Any chance you could be a bit more specific in terms of albums :). Just one by each that you think is best.

Well, I'd get both La Masquerade Infernale and the Sham Mirrors by Arcturus. And everything that Solefald has done is essential, IMO, except for the Linear Scaffold. Ved Buens Ende has only done one full length, which is Written in Waters. Virus also has only done one album so far, Carheart, but another one is being made. I would reccomend getting Gallows Gallery by Sigh. I plan on getting Infidel Art and Imaginary Sonicscape by Sigh sometime, so I can't really reccomend it yet since I haven't heard the whole thing, but I have high expectations. Age of Silence only has one full length album out. The lead vocalist is Lars Nedland from Solefald.

Although I have yet to hear an entire album by Psychotic Waltz (I've heard plenty of their songs, though) I'd get Into the Everflow due to the fact that Freakshow is on that album, and I love that song. I'd also probably get Far off Grace by Vanden Plas and maybe Christ.0. And for Age of Nemesis, I think Terra Incognita is a good choice. And Blotted Science only has one album.

Or, to narrow it down further....

Fleurety - Min Tid Skaal Komme
Solefald - Neonism
Arcturus - la Masquerade Infernale
Virus - Carheart
Ved Buens Ende - Written in Waters
Psychotic Waltz - Into the Everflow
Vanden Plas - Christ.0
Age of Nemesis - Terra Incognita

Coooool :).
Cheers Sensey.

I already have The Sham Mirrows and La Masquerade Infernale though :).

At 12/18/07 05:00 PM, X-Imperium-X wrote:

I also just kind of noticed that the childish habbit of giving crappy bands crappy names still hasn't died down yet, and wanted to respond to it.

You call it childish, I call it beating a dead horse. I was being tongue-in-cheek and I guess you missed it. Frankly, the names I used are very, very played out, but I always accept new ones if they're funny. And they pop up.

yeah, I missed it. I just really dislike things like that, whether it's serious or not.

(you know, I might just not be tr00 enough...)

I don't listen to "troo" stuff often, in fact barely. I resent the culture some times because of the obsession with being more and more underground, however:

oh, exactly my thoughts. I listen to pretty much anything, but I dislike the whole idea of somebody being 'real' and someone else not. If it's good music, you shouldn't care about what an artist does. or at least I don't stop listening to the music because of it... otherwise I could just as well stop listening to burzum etc.

Lifelover

lawls at the band pic. These guys are serious. It may be an undercut to make fun of a band's image, but it was funny regardless. I personally don't listen to them.

yeah, it looks silly. But just about the whole underground black metal scene&related is rather fucked up, so I gladly forgive them their silly pictures (also, the cover of their first cd is hot... or would be, if it werenth for the pigs blood:p)

Herfst

Never heard of them, but they are independent and without an LP. Troo kvlt indeed, well-played.

Leng Tch'e

Were good, going downhill IMO

yeah, I understand. I like marasmus, but it's far from being razorgrind.

Nanowar

if its Manowar and you typo'd, then they are classic, even though I don't like them that much. I googled it just in case (I've been surprised before by one-letter-off band names) and apparently a Nanowar parody thing exists. If its them, IDK...

yeah, it's them. It's not really that great musically, but they are hilarious. it's like most other joke bands, actually.
kind off a shame metal archives doesn't allow them.

oh, and mate... don't think I don't know half the bands here. I'm would be the first one to admit my knowledge isn't that great, but you're not exactly talking about underground here.;)

I know that. This isn't the Metal Archives board or even something worse than that. But your attitude leaves something to be desired. Its a little condescending, because this thread wasn't going to be and isn't going to be anything but what it is not. Its how I remember it when I was a newfag, just in reverse. Pertinent discussion is always welcome, but if you want more serious conversation, hit up another board. Not that I'm trying to push you out or anything, but what you see is what you get.

I'll admit that this isn't the best place for serious discussions, but that's also not really why I'm here. I do visit other forums that can be used for that. However, that doesn't take away I still got the impression that a club called "metal hell" should focus on metal, en not on what's not metal. That's pretty much anything I can complain about, half the posts being about masscore or screamo...

At 12/18/07 03:34 PM, davaca wrote: Herfst

Awesome, i really need to get back to the guy i was emailing about getting the CD and T Shirt, i think it was actually their vocalist :D

Skitliv

have you heard anything by them, i'm interested to check them out but im not really sure

At 12/18/07 06:28 PM, Nev wrote: Cheers Sensey.

haha sensey.

I already have The Sham Mirrows and La Masquerade Infernale though :).

This is a good thing.

At 12/18/07 06:35 PM, Charon wrote:

At 12/18/07 03:34 PM, davaca wrote: Skitliv

have you heard anything by them, i'm interested to check them out but im not really sure

Well, I saw them live and they were good. I don't know if it's good on cd, though, it happened enough that bands who are good live suck on cd, so I can't tell you with certainty
a shame I didn't buy the dome, in a couple of years it's probably worth 3 or 4 times a much as it is now:p

At 12/18/07 06:24 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Fleurety - Min Tid Skaal Komme
Solefald - Neonism
Arcturus - la Masquerade Infernale
Virus - Carheart
Ved Buens Ende - Written in Waters
Psychotic Waltz - Into the Everflow
Vanden Plas - Christ.0
Age of Nemesis - Terra Incognita

*bookmarks page*

Oh man, a goldmine of avante-garde metal.

At 12/18/07 06:31 PM, davaca wrote: yeah, I missed it. I just really dislike things like that, whether it's serious or not.

I don't blame you. Its often a tactic for newfags to try to look cool. I was going for a mockery of that :P.

oh, exactly my thoughts. I listen to pretty much anything, but I dislike the whole idea of somebody being 'real' and someone else not. If it's good music, you shouldn't care about what an artist does. or at least I don't stop listening to the music because of it... otherwise I could just as well stop listening to burzum etc.

I agree. It gets to a point where in order to be "troo" you have to like some 15 year old norwegian kid making songs on his 8-track in the middle of a forest of "kvlt grimness" while burning a church and pissing on graves. Also, no more than 15 people can hear a song. That stuff is just BS. Good point about Burzum, I don't care about Varg either. He just got denied parole again, i think.

yeah, I understand. I like marasmus, but it's far from being razorgrind.

Stuff like that happens though. I didn't think Marasmus was bad either, but I echo what you said.

yeah, it's them. It's not really that great musically, but they are hilarious. it's like most other joke bands, actually.

Anal Cunt (lul)? I might check these guys out.

I'll admit that this isn't the best place for serious discussions, but that's also not really why I'm here. I do visit other forums that can be used for that. However, that doesn't take away I still got the impression that a club called "metal hell" should focus on metal, en not on what's not metal. That's pretty much anything I can complain about, half the posts being about masscore or screamo...

The Metal Hell focused on picspam a couple of weeks ago. That kind of shit comes and goes, but I will echo shitonastick when I say most of the true real metal conversations were used up a while ago. Good conversations (such as this one, IMO) still appear every now and then, especially if a decent topic pops up. Mostly the "not metal" part surfaces because of the youth in here as well. Many of the younger member's peers are confused about what is metal, and we can offer answers. Also, there are always trolls. Sometimes some good stuff comes out of it, but mostly it rehashes. BTW, props for reading my long-ass posts. Not too many people do.

The Hell is a little bit goofy, and I think it always will be.

Sorry for the double post, but I forgot about this stuff.

Anyway, here goes, it works that you pick an option in the brackets in response to the question:
1. How often do you pray? (Everyday, sometimes, never, other)

Other. In extreme or very exact circumstances do I pray. Its not an everyday or even sometimes occurance.

2. When do you usually pray? (Morning-Evening, Anytime, Other, Never)

Other. See above.

3. Where do you usually pray? (Home, Church, School, Other, I don't pray anywhere)

Other. Where ever I happen to be during the circumstance.

4. How do you pray? (Bow your head, Close your eyes, kneel, other, I don't pray)

Closed eyes, bowed head.

5. Why do you pray? (Get closer to God, Thank God, Say sorry for Sins, some big word that I can't read because I've written essays shorter than that, Praise God, Others, No need to pray)

Other. Usually for the safety or well-being of a loved one, or for a moment of clarity or epiphany. Sometimes, very rarely, for reassurance.

I'll need your first name too.

Will

Sorry, not much help I assume.

At 12/18/07 10:36 PM, X-Imperium-X wrote:

Anyway, here goes, it works that you pick an option in the brackets in response to the question:
1. How often do you pray? (Everyday, sometimes, never, other)

Sometimes

2. When do you usually pray? (Morning-Evening, Anytime, Other, Never)

Anytime

3. Where do you usually pray? (Home, Church, School, Other, I don't pray anywhere)

Anywhere I need to

4. How do you pray? (Bow your head, Close your eyes, kneel, other, I don't pray)

Closed eyes, bowed head

5. Why do you pray? (Get closer to God, Thank God, Say sorry for Sins, some big word that I can't read because I've written essays shorter than that, Praise God, Others, No need to pray)

Any reason I need to

I'll need your first name too.

Andy

this text used because the gay system won't let me post that amount of words in that amount of quoted text

YOU ALL NEED TO JUST GOT LISTEN TO SOME (HED) P.E. AND ROCK OUT

OR
IF UR NOT INTO THAT
POWERMAN 5000 SHOULD DO

OR
IF U DONT LIKE THEM
THEN SOME GOOD OLD PANTARA AND ANTHRAX

>= P

I just listened to some stuff by Cornelius Jakhelln's other band, Sturmgeist. It's pretty good black/thrash.

At 12/18/07 08:38 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: *bookmarks page*

Oh man, a goldmine of avante-garde metal.

Well, some of it is prog, but I'm glad to be helpful.

To any possible My Dying Bride fans, I've got The Dreadful Hours and I absolutely love it. What should I check out next?

1. How often do you pray? (Everyday, sometimes, never, other)

Never.

2. When do you usually pray? (Morning-Evening, Anytime, Other, Never)

Never

3. Where do you usually pray? (Home, Church, School, Other, I don't pray anywhere)

Never

4. How do you pray? (Bow your head, Close your eyes, kneel, other, I don't pray)

I don't pray.

5. Why do you pray? (Get closer to God, Thank God, Say sorry for Sins, some big word that I can't read because I've written essays shorter than that, Praise God, Others, No need to pray)

No need to pray.

I'll need your first name too.

Dale

Also how about those silly rules that don't let you post because a certain percent of it is quoted? They really do get annoying aye?

At 12/19/07 02:45 AM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote: To any possible My Dying Bride fans, I've got The Dreadful Hours and I absolutely love it. What should I check out next?

i have Songs of Darkness, Words of Light, and Turn Loose the Swans, which are both awesome although i would recommend Songs over Turn mainly for the song "The Blue Lotus"

lol joining u

At 12/18/07 05:52 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote: halp

I'm going to put 'pagan' in brackets beside your name.

Just to

1. Annoy my teacher
2. Get my point across about, just because the majority practice a religion, doesn't mean we have to learn about it. We learn Christianity for our first 2 years, then for no reason at all, it splits a 33-66 deal to Islam.

I mean, what the fuck? There are like 2 muslims in the entire school. I DEMAND CELTIC PAGANISM!

At 12/19/07 07:07 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: then for no reason at all, it splits a 33-66 deal to Islam.

is because of the currrent climate towards that religion that it is taught in western culture, to provide a deeper understanding then the unfortunate view point that all muslims are terrorists, its to over come the fear of the unknown if you like and help deepen your understanding so you grow up to realise not to take everything at face value

At 12/19/07 06:29 AM, Charon wrote:

At 12/19/07 02:45 AM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote: To any possible My Dying Bride fans, I've got The Dreadful Hours and I absolutely love it. What should I check out next?

i have Songs of Darkness, Words of Light, and Turn Loose the Swans, which are both awesome although i would recommend Songs over Turn mainly for the song "The Blue Lotus"

Indeed, Songs of Darkness is their best. But don't forget "the angel and the dark river", another great album.

You know what, mdb never made a bad album (I hereby forcefully forget Gods of the sun), so just buy/download them all.

At 12/18/07 10:28 PM, X-Imperium-X wrote: I agree. It gets to a point where in order to be "troo" you have to like some 15 year old norwegian kid making songs on his 8-track in the middle of a forest of "kvlt grimness" while burning a church and pissing on graves. Also, no more than 15 people can hear a song. That stuff is just BS. Good point about Burzum, I don't care about Varg either. He just got denied parole again, i think.

Well, he'll probably never make music the way he did in the early '90, so there is no music involved anymore: let him rot... (Yes, I have rather strong hate of anything that smells xenophobic)

yeah, it's them. It's not really that great musically, but they are hilarious. it's like most other joke bands, actually.

Anal Cunt (lul)? I might check these guys out.

Well, it's different from anal cunt, Nanowar is a parody of the cliché's in heavy metal, and mainly Manowar and rhapsody. I think there are a couple of songs of them on youtube, you should check them out.

The Hell is a little bit goofy, and I think it always will be.

I think I can live with goofy:p

At 12/18/07 02:55 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Anyway, here goes, it works that you pick an option in the brackets in response to the question:

1. How often do you pray? (Everyday, sometimes, never, other)

Never.

2. When do you usually pray? (Morning-Evening, Anytime, Other, Never)

Never.

3. Where do you usually pray? (Home, Church, School, Other, I don't pray anywhere)

I don't pray anywhere.

4. How do you pray? (Bow your head, Close your eyes, kneel, other, I don't pray)

I don't pray.

5. Why do you pray? (Get closer to God, Thank God, Say sorry for Sins, some big word that I can't read because I've written essays shorter than that, Praise God, Others, No need to pray)

No need to pray. However, this doesn't mean I hate religion or anything. I'm not a religious person, but I'll respect other people's religions.

I'll need your first name too.

Bahamut.

At 12/18/07 03:40 PM, ShitOnAStick wrote: eeeeensifeerrruuumm.

Damn. I was hoping he would never find out.

At 12/18/07 05:06 PM, IrishGun wrote: "It's the devil's music." she likes to say.

She's stupid.