At 10/4/07 05:17 PM, IrishGun wrote:

At 10/4/07 05:08 PM, SHfan201 wrote: ?? The only two on the list that you can barely call "pop" is Stone Sour and cKy.

I like Stone Sour. And how the fuck are they pop?!

I very much agree with ElGhoulio's post.

Through Glass sounds like pop.

At 10/4/07 06:52 PM, Nev wrote:

At 10/4/07 06:30 PM, Bonemill wrote:

At 10/4/07 06:29 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote:

Also, the genres I'd like to see Fused would be Free Form Jazz, And Brutal Death.

Get on AIM nao.

Sleep Terror?

Either Sleep Terror, Disthyrismia, Electro Quaterstaff, Behold.. the Arctopus. I love jazz and also technical metal.

At 10/4/07 06:59 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote:

At 10/4/07 06:52 PM, Nev wrote:

At 10/4/07 06:30 PM, Bonemill wrote:

At 10/4/07 06:29 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote:

Also, the genres I'd like to see Fused would be Free Form Jazz, And Brutal Death.

Get on AIM nao.

Sleep Terror?

Isn't Free Form Jazz with those like, Saxophones and shit?
Trumpets and shit?

But If it isn't, Touché.

The genre of jazz is hard to define. You can't really define it at all by what instruments are used, but rather as a new musical mode as a whole. Jazz is basically a regular musical mode but with tension and resolution in within the same scale. You can read up a whole load about music theory and jazz theory, it's pretty interesting stuff.

At 10/4/07 08:12 PM, omfgItsZoidy wrote: I would like to hear grind mixed with black.

DUDE!!!
I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU GUYS TO CHECK OUT ANAAL NATHRAKH FOR SO LONG!
BLACKENED GRIND!

Anaal Nathrakh - WHEN HUMANITY IS CANCEEEEEERR!!!!

At 10/4/07 08:33 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote:

At 10/4/07 08:12 PM, omfgItsZoidy wrote: I would like to hear grind mixed with black.

DUDE!!!
I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU GUYS TO CHECK OUT ANAAL NATHRAKH FOR SO LONG!
BLACKENED GRIND!

Anaal Nathrakh - WHEN HUMANITY IS CANCEEEEEERR!!!!

<3

At 10/4/07 08:12 PM, omfgItsZoidy wrote:

I would like to hear grind mixed with black.

That would be my band. I write Black metal style lyrics and compositions but our vocalist does Grindcore style vocals. Also In some songs we go from Black Metal to a Grindcore breakbeat.

Check out our rehearsal recordings we have up at our myspace page:

www.myspace.com/officialvisigoth

Once we get better quality songs up you will be able to hear what I mean alot better.

At 10/4/07 03:08 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: quite literally, the coolest genre ever..

literally, huh? So it would have a very low temperature?

learn english

At 10/4/07 05:56 PM, Nev wrote: Are the albums of theirs full of equally amazing/better songs? And should they be gotten, or should I not bother?

I plan on getting all of Angra's albums (especially those with Edu Falaschi). I have Rebirth and every song on it is great.

Angra is amazing.

At 10/4/07 08:16 PM, DnaInstant wrote: Disthyrismia

Dysrhythmia are good, but are they metal? I always thought they were prog rock or something.

Also, if you like Dysrhythmia, you should check out Don Caballero. I don't know what kind of music they'd be classified as (prog rock?) but they're good.

Behold.. the Arctopus.

I'm looking forward to Skullgrid. I hope it's good.

Woot I got an audio submission of my band up.

Its quality is crap and there is alot of bg noise I wish wasn't there like mic feed-back.

But you can get a taste of what we sound like.

Reheasral Improv Mix

At 10/4/07 09:02 PM, Call-Of-TheWild wrote: www.myspace.com/officialvisigoth

Please stop spamming the Hell.
If you want to try getting you name out try putting the link in your sig.

At 10/4/07 09:02 PM, CHRlST wrote:

At 10/3/07 10:05 PM, ZeR0-DaY wrote:

At 10/3/07 07:21 PM, SHfan201 wrote:

Slipknot

not metal

Lol..please tell me how Slipknot are not metal..

Duality had some really gay songs..but denying them as metal is just absurd..

Slipknot is nu-metal, nu-metal doesn't count as metal here.

At 10/4/07 09:21 PM, omfgItsZoidy wrote: Slipknot is nu-metal, nu-metal doesn't count as metal here.

And we've got a winner!!!

This pink shit is annoying as hell man.

At 10/4/07 09:02 PM, CHRlST wrote: Lol..please tell me how Slipknot are not metal..

Allow me to enlighten you.

1. The song structure is un-metal.
2. Rap + metal = not metal.
3. Just because it's "heavy" doesn't mean it's metal.
4. 3 fucking percussionists = not metal
5. Gimmicks are lame. And unmetal.
6. Their genre = nu-metal.
7. Nu-metal, while having metal in its name, is not metal. It's sort of like calling punk "rock 'n' roll" because punk rock has "rock" in its name.
8. They're shit. that doesn't make them not metal, but they're still REALLY BAD.
9. Who the fuck let you in here?

I await your hurt, pissy and half-hearted responses.

At 10/4/07 09:51 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: This pink shit is annoying as hell man.

I know, it better not be like this for a whole month

At 10/4/07 09:51 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: This pink shit is annoying as hell man.

It really is.

I really hope it doesn't stay this way all month.

At 10/4/07 10:07 PM, CHRlST wrote: Lol..aww god..sounds like the lot of ya are really trying to act hardcore..:/ Way to join the bandwagon haha.

And you sound like a douchebag. For the record, we're not trying to "act hardcore." If anyone is, it's you.

Also, metal is fucking metal...and if you don't believe that then you are a fucking poser end of story.

Yeah, but nu metal isn't metal. it can be modeled like so:

a = a, b = b, a =/= b, b =/= a

when a = metal and b = nu metal.

unless you failed pre-algebra, that should make a little sense.

At 10/4/07 10:07 PM, CHRlST wrote: Also, metal is fucking metal...and if you don't believe that then you are a fucking poser end of story.

Yeah, it's us that are the posers. You know the big group of people who have a combined knowledge of metal, which is ultimately much greater then yours? Yeah, we're the posers. Not you.

Get away from here with your butthurtedness.

At 10/4/07 10:07 PM, CHRlST wrote:

At 10/4/07 09:21 PM, omfgItsZoidy wrote:

At 10/4/07 09:02 PM, CHRlST wrote:

At 10/3/07 10:05 PM, ZeR0-DaY wrote:

At 10/3/07 07:21 PM, SHfan201 wrote:

Also, metal is fucking metal...and if you don't believe that then you are a fucking poser end of story.

I agree that metal is metal. Slipknot is not metal though

At 10/4/07 10:17 PM, Lost-Thought wrote:

At 10/4/07 10:07 PM, CHRlST wrote:

At 10/4/07 09:21 PM, omfgItsZoidy wrote:

At 10/4/07 09:02 PM, CHRlST wrote:

At 10/3/07 10:05 PM, ZeR0-DaY wrote:

At 10/3/07 07:21 PM, SHfan201 wrote:

Also, metal is fucking metal...and if you don't believe that then you are a fucking poser end of story.

I agree that metal is metal. Slipknot is not metal though

I agree with you guys, and if you asked me i'd say i'm not a poser though. By the way, Slipknot=Dildos!

At 10/4/07 10:19 PM, CHRlST wrote: Hmm, indeed so having an opinion that differs from yours makes me a douche bag? Aww man such logic! My condolences..

Says Monseur If-You-Think-That-Slipknot-Is-Not-Metal-
Then-You-Are-A-Poser. Hyprocrite.

Moving on..it's metal..I don't care if you try with all your effort at being witty to prove me wrong or just to plain flame me

I'm not seeing any arguing on your part. What makes slipknot metal? Do tell, i'm curious. All you're doing is saying that slipknot is metal and we're wrong. That's like telling Columbus that the world is flat, no matter what he says.

Black metal makes sense, death metal as well (though it usually is just gore, not death) and I enjoy both, but delving any deeper than that into subgenre's is just a waste of time.

And this is relevant how?

At 10/4/07 10:24 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 10/4/07 10:19 PM, CHRlST wrote: Black metal makes sense, death metal as well (though it usually is just gore, not death) and I enjoy both, but delving any deeper than that into subgenre's is just a waste of time.

And this is relevant how?

I think he's trying to say black metal is metal, and death metal is metal, so nu metal must be metal.

At 10/4/07 10:33 PM, CHRlST wrote:

All in all I consider slipknot metal, and I asked how they weren't metal, and I don't believe that has ever been addressed to me, except that they are "nu metal and we don't consider that metaL"...

They are not metal, because of the fan base they generate, the way they sell out and they way they try to keep up with the times rather than find their own unique sound. They Have at least 8 members last time I checked. I find it quite odd to think oyu need that many people to come out with what even resembles a song and they dont even do that good. I mean look, you have one guy in a mask headbutting some trash cans at every live performance what possible purpouse does he serve?

Now the guitars and the music itself sounds like anything else you would hear out of the countless idiotic bands today.

The fan base they generate is so annoying. You say I listen to death metal in a crowd the first thing you hear is "o0o I like slipknot" When they dont even come close to death metal.

Sure they make their voices raspy every once and a while but hell rod stewart done that and you dont call him metal do you? Exactly :P

At 10/4/07 10:19 PM, CHRlST wrote: Hmm, indeed so having an opinion that differs from yours makes me a douche bag? Aww man such logic! My condolences..

I'd like to ask for the honor of booting this "truly hardcore metalhead" out of our beloved Hell, ruining it with his total faggyness.

So I'm just gonna do it now and you can tell me if you appove or not.
GTFO

At 10/4/07 10:33 PM, CHRlST wrote: Not really...I believe that Slipknot is metal and to think otherwise is just amusing because slipknot has a yell/growl type of singer, double bass pedal beats, low tuned down guitars, is fast paced. How is that not metal? Most metal bands have the exact same characteristics, but I guess since they are famous and succeeded as a band they must be hated!

I don't care about fame. I like cannibal corspe, and while they aren't on par with Slipknots level of fame and success, i don't care.

Now, on to raping your argument:
Yelling/growling doens't make it metal. SWANS' Michael Gira, especially in the early years, had a vocal style that was primarily shouting, commanding, yelling, with a gutteral growl or two. SWANS are certainly not metal.

Double bass pedal is not a miracle musical component that makes anything metal. There are metal bands with no or little double bass, and bands that have double bass that are not metal. If i went up to Ringo Starr, commandeered his drumset and started playing double bass, the beatles would not be metal.

Downtuned guitars is also not a recipe for metal. Plenty of metal bands down downtune their guitars and basses significantly, and many not at all. Furthermore, do you know what genre heavily downtuned guitars is a standard of? Guess what! It's nu-metal, and amazingly enough that is exactly what Slipknot are.

And this is my personal favourite facet of your shit argument:

Speed. Speed does not equal metal. Ever. Is Rimsky-Korsakov's "Flight of the Bumblebee" metal because it's tempo is blazingly fast? No. Is ska metal because it's tempos are fast and upbeat? No. Is hardcore metal because it's fast and loud? No.

Furthermore, Doomsword is not fast. Neither is Yearning, Mael Mordha, Candlemass, Electric Wizard, or any other doom metal band you can think of. And sure enough: they're metal.

Now, on to why Slipknot are not metal, but nu-metal.

They have a turntablist. I have never seen a self-respecting metal band with a turntablist. Feel free to correct me, without using nu-metal examples that is.

They rap. Definitely not a trait of metal.

The bass is heavily prominent, and the guitars are low and hella distorted, with an emphasis on groove. Metal has a focus on technical proficiency, but nu-metal takes it the other way and just tries to make grooving riffs. Less focus on melody, more on movability.

I don't consider "nu metal" a genre...I'm not even sure what the hell it is supposed to be..Famous bands probably..but whatever..

Nu metal = Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Korn, Slipknot, Mudvayne, Disturbed, and Machine Head.

Main characteristics:
rapping, turntables, downtuned guitars (like, really downtuned), prominent bass guitar, emphasis on groove and rhythm, angsty lyrics, and are more accessible to the general populace than metal.

All in all I consider slipknot metal, and I asked how they weren't metal, and I don't believe that has ever been addressed to me, except that they are "nu metal and we don't consider that metaL"...

See above. Ask and you shall receive.

At 10/4/07 10:51 PM, CHRlST wrote:

The best way i can describe why we dont like slipknot is as follows.

We dont hate them because they are nu-metal we hate them because they suck.

At 10/4/07 10:51 PM, CHRlST wrote: Ignorant Rambling

Listen to Chuck.

At 10/4/07 11:04 PM, CHRlST wrote:

At 10/4/07 10:56 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 10/4/07 10:33 PM, CHRlST wrote:

Hahaha, yes I expected everyone to flame me but as such I can expect from a bunch of nerdy kids who know nothing of metal except what wikipedia tells them and act as if they are geniuses! The fact is..whether you children like it or not..Slipknot be metal, and their be nothing you can do about it hahaha!

Lol, I am 16 years old. I find it hilarious the fact that you dont have anything to back up your statements after two of us already bashed the shit out of yours. Yet you refuse to realise that slipknot is not metal. I find it sad that the youth of this world is being torn apart by such faggotry. I also do not think that I am hardcore or anything of that sort.

HEY WAIT A SECOND, MAYBE IF I GO TO THE THRIFT SHOP BUY A COSTUME AND GET MY FRIEND TO BANG ON A STREET SIGN WHILE I USE THE MOST OVERUSED POWER CHORDS IN THE WORLD I CAN BECOME FAMOUS AND GET MILLIONS.

You wanna hear metal? Listen to necrophagist, nile, morbid angel, tyr, amon amarth, not bullshit like slipknot.

Im gonna go out on a limb and say that you also enjoy lamb of god, shadows fall, all that remains, trivium, and atreyu?

Honestly we could care less if they were mainstream or not. There are plenty of famous bands we like. YOu just got pissed cause you like the non superior one.

Also, when you have to revert to using outdated unfunny pics then you have truly shown that this club is full of 11 year olds who think that they'll be cool because they pretend to like bands that talk about raping corpses and satan.

Your just pissed because you got pwned. You phail at the internet. Please leave.

At 10/4/07 11:04 PM, CHRlST wrote: Hahaha, yes I expected everyone to flame me but as such I can expect from a bunch of nerdy kids who know nothing of metal except what wikipedia tells them and act as if they are geniuses! The fact is..whether you children like it or not..Slipknot be metal, and their be nothing you can do about it hahaha!

I don't ask wikipedia for my metal info. Try metal-archives (who magically seem to be devoid of slipknot. SHOCKER!) and us here. furthermore, you have no right to be calling us "kids," by the way. most of us, with the exception of irishgun and centurion-ryan, are fifteen years of age or older.

I grow tired of your argumentum ad nauseam tactics, so i'm gonna end this futile and infantile argument with this:

No matter what you say, i'm going to sit here being right, and you'll still be wrong. Regardless of what you think.

Now excuse me, but I have some metal to listen. I believe that Burzum is calling my name.

and for the record, i'm not a nerd. just putting it out there

At 10/4/07 11:13 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

Now excuse me, but I have some metal to listen. I believe that Burzum is calling my name.

I bet you the idiot doesnt even know who varg is. He will be trying to prove us wrong by looking for him on google after he is done reading the first sentence to prove us wrong lolololol.

At 10/4/07 11:04 PM, CHRlST wrote: blah blah blah

alt?