At 3/19/20 05:37 PM, MeGa-wise wrote:At 3/8/20 10:16 AM, HerbieG wrote:At 3/8/20 10:12 AM, TomFulp wrote:At 3/7/20 12:39 PM, joshescue18 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/536052/format/flash
No, it plays a video format instead.
Ah I think it works on my end because I have "Use Newgrounds Player for Flash" checked off on my account settings - in your case it's still checking for the Flash plugin and the browser is telling it Flash isn't supported.
On Firefox Flash is still supported, I can turn it on and those submissions are loading as plain videos.
I downloaded the Newgrounds player and got all the medals from this movie in Firefox. The Newgrounds player has worked for me on movies:
That is not a good solution because Newgrounds player is a Windows-only program. A good solution would be if Newgrounds didn't use Ruffle at all (if the user didn't want it to) and just reverted to using the builtin Flash plugin in the user's browser. That solution would work for everyone.
The problem is entirely that, at least with movies, if you choose to view as Flash content rather than embedded video, that Newgrounds currently forces Ruffle on it, and Ruffle is broken. When there is no good reason we shouldn't be able to say, in user settings, never use Ruffle always use browser plugin for Flash content.
And, again, going forward, this is possible for all as you can use Waterfox browser (if a 64-bit machine -- most of them these days) or Pale Moon browser (if an older 32-bit machine) and just put the NPAPI Flash plugin in that. That'll work indefinitely even beyond the Flash death cutoff point. And would work on Newgrounds too were it not for this Ruffle stubbornness. That is 100% what the problem is.
Now, I understand the motivation behind Ruffle. I understand the motivation behind the Newgrounds player. But what people need to understand is that those solutions don't work for everybody and there is literally no good reason not to allow the user to just use what their browser and builtin plugins can do, if the user so chooses, and if they got that setup to work just fine.
It's like trying to force games through an emulator versus playing them on the original console. It's never going to be as good, and oftentimes there are bugs in the emulation which were not present on the actual consoles, or the timing will be off, or other problems. Sure, you can use that if you have no other options, but the original is always preferable because anything else is at best an imitation, even however good an imitation it might be.