At 11/13/09 01:33 AM, TheBlackDahliaMurder wrote: Is it fair to nickname Cutler, "Jay Chokeler?"

What about chicken?

At 11/12/09 08:53 PM, TheThing wrote: Aparently, the NFL doesn't have a little Captain in them

Yeah, I found that kinda funny, but also kinda lame if thats possible. Course I thought Jason Avant coming in to "help out" kinda screwed the pooch there, making it a 2+ person excessive celebration for a 15 yard penalty.

At 11/13/09 01:33 AM, TheBlackDahliaMurder wrote: Is it fair to nickname Cutler, "Jay Chokeler?"

How about Jay Douchebag-thanks-for-costing-me-and-thou sands-others-picks-and-fantasy-points? He's been dreadful.

At 11/13/09 05:05 PM, phileeguy wrote:

At 11/12/09 08:53 PM, TheThing wrote: Aparently, the NFL doesn't have a little Captain in them

Yeah, I found that kinda funny, but also kinda lame if thats possible. Course I thought Jason Avant coming in to "help out" kinda screwed the pooch there, making it a 2+ person excessive celebration for a 15 yard penalty.

It wasn't Avant's fault. If Celek had any leg strength, Avant wouldn't have had to step in, but the NFL would have found out anyway. Sure it lost them 15 yards on the kickoff, but the fact that Celek couldn't raise his leg high enough on national television should be punishment enough.

OSU is going to have it's sweet victory over Iowa. I can tell.

Speaking of sweet victory Stanford is winning against USC at the moment. Let's see if they can hold out.

Gonna go for a ride tonight. ;P

Sorry I'm late! Please accept that I definitely thought the 49ers would win Thursday.

Week 9 Schedule:
Chicago at San Francisco - 49ers
New Orleans at St. Louis - Saints
Tampa Bay at Miami - Buccaneers
Detroit at Minnesota - Vikings
Jacksonville at NY Jets - Jaguars
Buffalo at Tennessee - Bills
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh - Bengals
Denver at Washington - Broncos
Atlanta at Carolina - Falcons
Kansas City at Oakland - Raiders
Seattle at Arizona - Seahawks
Dallas at Green Bay - Cowboys
Philadelphia at San Diego - Chargers
New England at Indianapolis - Colts
Baltimore at Cleveland - Ravens

Bye: NY Giants, Houston

At 11/15/09 01:25 PM, Tluck-Person wrote: New Orleans at St. Louis - Saints

agreed. im watchin that game now.
saints 7 rams zip

saints could really go for an undefeated streak here

At 11/15/09 01:25 PM, Tluck-Person wrote: Sorry I'm late! Please accept that I definitely thought the 49ers would win Thursday.

I was just thinking about giving you a loss for that game instead of moving you to the riff-raft section since only you missed one game instead of an entire weeks worth. A nice compromise?

Who else thinks Bill Belichick made one of the worst coaching decisions of his career tonight? Seriously why the fuk would you risk giving them the ball back when you're on your own 28 with two minutes left. Just punt the fucking thing.

Well deserved that he lost that game. I know he's regretting it big time.

At 11/16/09 12:53 AM, SpiffyMasta wrote: Who else thinks Bill Belichick made one of the worst coaching decisions of his career tonight? Seriously why the fuk would you risk giving them the ball back when you're on your own 28 with two minutes left. Just punt the fucking thing.

Well deserved that he lost that game. I know he's regretting it big time.

Fuckin Jackass,cost me $20 >:(

At 11/16/09 12:53 AM, SpiffyMasta wrote: Who else thinks Bill Belichick made one of the worst coaching decisions of his career tonight?

He must have someone like Brady or the O-Line yelling in his ear to go for it. There is little excuse for a veteran coach to not block all that out and do the sensible thing which was to punt; especially if it's two yards. Who knows; he must have not had any trust in his defense at all to make that call.

At 11/16/09 01:00 AM, Molotov wrote:
Fuckin Jackass,cost me $20 >:(

The look on his face is worth 200.

I've been watching SportsCnter talk about the call now for 20 minutes, which is kind of expected, but Jon Gruden had a good point. He said you don't want to give Peyton Manning the ball, he was up two touchdowns against him with 5 minutes left and his team punted the abll back to Indy twice and they came back an down by three in overtime.

Maybe he was just that scared of Manning, but how can you not trust your defense that badly. 60-70 yards with 2 minutes left and one timeout?

At 11/16/09 02:46 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote: Maybe he was just that scared of Manning, but how can you not trust your defense that badly. 60-70 yards with 2 minutes left and one timeout?

Agreed. Even though Manning is Manning, you can't risk giving any team 30 yards to score. And if you are going to go for it, try to run your route past the line, and then fall down and run forward once you do get the ball.

At 11/16/09 03:53 AM, reverend wrote:

At 11/16/09 12:53 AM, SpiffyMasta wrote: Who else thinks Bill Belichick made one of the worst coaching decisions of his career tonight?

I never really liked the guy, but I never really disliked him either. If anything I always wished my team had a coach that won like he did. That being said, Sunday's game puts him in arrogant asshole territory in my opinion. Some think the call was gutsy, I call it stupid.

He must have someone like Brady or the O-Line yelling in his ear to go for it. There is little excuse for a veteran coach to not block all that out and do the sensible thing which was to punt; especially if it's two yards. Who knows; he must have not had any trust in his defense at all to make that call.

What he should've done was remember the Dallas @ Philly game last Sunday night, I'm sure he caught the highlights. Reid tried the same thing at around midfield and blew it and Romo hit Austin for the game winning Touchdown. I don't care how much faith or lack thereof you have in your defense, you make Peyton drive 70+ yards or so, not risk giving it to him with less than 30.

Anywho, picks weren't all that hot for me this week, along with many others. At least we're not alone. I love to check out the ESPN "expert" picks and well, oh man look at all that red below the unanimous Vikings pick in week 10.
Link. Well, that's why they play the game.

The Patriots going for it on 4th down while they're ahead isn't surprising at all to me, even without the Peyton Manning context. It's just a matter that it finally came back to bite them in the ass, which is another thing I'm not surprised about, but I do enjoy it.

At 11/16/09 10:57 PM, phileeguy wrote: I never really liked the guy, but I never really disliked him either. If anything I always wished my team had a coach that won like he did. That being said, Sunday's game puts him in arrogant asshole territory in my opinion. Some think the call was gutsy, I call it stupid.

Yea in a way you have to hand it to him for having balls. Was is ego in the way? Yea probably way too much, which is why he made the call in my opinion. Is he still the best coach in the NFL? Yea, probably. You can't fault the guy for his overall abilities.

At 11/16/09 11:42 PM, 36Holla wrote: The Patriots going for it on 4th down while they're ahead isn't surprising at all to me, even without the Peyton Manning context. It's just a matter that it finally came back to bite them in the ass, which is another thing I'm not surprised about, but I do enjoy it.

Well yea I mean that's clearly why you don't do that. The risks outweigh the benefits, clear and simple. 30-40 less yards is a lot in under two minutes with no timeouts. Funny part is, it wasn't even Manning that got most of the yards on that final play anyway! For some reason I am also glad that it bit him in the ass, I just don't like his overall arrogance I guess.

On another note. What the hell happened to my Cowboys?! Green Bay allows 76 points in two games including against the worst team in the NFL (the Bucs) and the Cowboys can't even get more than a touchdown in the dying minutes of the game!! I was so pissed off. I don't know who to blame more, Jason Garrett's play calling or Romo's general complete inconsistency? I had a feeling with the way he was playing he was bound to have a horrible game. Seriously, the Packers defense is not that good, and they are mostly down to back-ups. It just boggled me. It was seriously one of the most boring games I've watched in a long time.

People don't go for it enough on fourth down. I didn't watch the game so I can't comment, but Belicheck will make as many retarded decisions in a season as Chilly does every week

At 11/17/09 03:18 AM, SpiffyMasta wrote: On another note. What the hell happened to my Cowboys?! Green Bay allows 76 points in two games including against the worst team in the NFL (the Bucs) and the Cowboys can't even get more than a touchdown in the dying minutes of the game!! I was so pissed off. I don't know who to blame more, Jason Garrett's play calling or Romo's general complete inconsistency? I had a feeling with the way he was playing he was bound to have a horrible game. Seriously, the Packers defense is not that good, and they are mostly down to back-ups. It just boggled me. It was seriously one of the most boring games I've watched in a long time.

Frankly, I think this game highlights how inconsistent the NFC is, and particularly the NFC East. Giants go 5-0 to start, then lose 4 straight. Dallas plays the Giants well when they're rolling but lose and beat the Eagles in Philly, but can't put away Green Bay and struggle to beat Kansas City. Eagles can't beat Oakland, and still struggle to do anything in the 4th quarter when they had chances to beat Dallas and San Diego. Washington is awful, but finds a way to beat Denver. Green Bay loses to Tampa, yet shuts out Dallas for most of their game. I could go on and on.

Realistically I'd say there are only 4 very good teams right now in the whole of the NFL: Saints, Colts, Vikings and Patriots. San Diego I'd say is a "hot" team, but I don't think I'd put them in the very good category just yet. I can't buy Cincinnati until they prove to me that they can finish strong and win playoff games; Denver has fallen back to earth. Pittsburgh gets swept by a team that I can't buy, so by the transitive property/deduction I can't buy them as of now. Arizona has a good record, but they play in the division with the worst winning % and they still lost to San Francisco at home and Carolina.
Everyone else is pretty much mediocre at best, and at worst they're the Lions/Rams/Bucs/Browns.

On another note, I'm sure most of you have seen the articles that say Belichick statistically made the right call. If not, here's one of them. That specific simulation had the Pats a 79% chance of winning had they went for it on 4th and 2, whereas the percentage of winning when punting was only 70%. Other simulations had a much smaller margin like 2%, but still argue that he made the right call. Frankly, I still think he made the wrong call, computer simulations or no computer simulations.

Some argue that he went for the win by going on 4th and 2, but like I said previously, I see it as him having no faith in his defense to stop Manning with that little time left and having to go probably 70+ yards. Maybe that's true and is why he went for it, but I guess I think higher of the Pats defense than he does. Then again he's the coach, he would know better than I. Still, I think he was needlessly putting the entire game on the line with 1 play, instead of having Manning run most likely several plays to get a touchdown, any one or two or three of which could go the Pats way.

Week 10 Standings

Most Wins This Week:
TheBlackDahliaMurder - 10 wins

Most Losses This Week:
Buddhist and phileeguy - 8 losses

[ Rank ] [ W - L ] [ Win% ] [ User, Prev. Rank ]
>>>01 ] [ 98 - 45 ] [ .685% ] [ reverend, 1 ]
>>>--- ] [ 98 - 44 ] [ .685% ] [ TheBlackDahliaMurder, 2 ]
>>>03 ] [ 96 - 47 ] [ .671% ] [ Molotov, 3 ]
>>>04 ] [ 94 - 49 ] [ .657% ] [ 36Holla, 4 ]
>>>05 ] [ 92 - 51 ] [ .643% ] [ EternitySpent, 5 ]
>>>--- ] [ 92 - 51 ] [ .643% ] [ jonthomson, 6 ]
>>>--- ] [ 92 - 51 ] [ .643% ] [ Fro, 6 ]
>>>08 ] [ 85 - 58 ] [ .594% ] [ Tluck-Person, 8 ]

>>>09 ] [ 29 - 12 ] [ .707% ] [ DELUCA2400, 10 ]
>>>10 ] [ 77 - 35 ] [ .688% ] [ TheThing, 9 ]
>>>11 ] [ 38 - 20 ] [ .655% ] [ idiot-buster, 12 ]
>>>12 ] [ 58 - 31 ] [ .651% ] [ pepeatumi, 13 ]
>>>13 ] [ 26 - 14 ] [ .650% ] [ iBagel, 14]
>>>14 ] [ 33 - 21 ] [ .611% ] [ Buddhist, 11]
>>>16 ] [ 51 - 36 ] [ .586% ] [ SlntCobra1, 17 ]
>>>15 ] [ 74 - 53 ] [ .583% ] [ michelinman, 16 ]
>>>16 ] [ 33 - 24 ] [ .579% ] [ Crashman, 18 ]
>>>18 ] [ 39 - 29 ] [ .574% ] [ phileeguy, 15]
>>>19 ] [ 13 - 14 ] [ .481% ] [ Shy2Authenik, 19 ]

Week 10 Rankings
TheBlackDahliaMurder: 10-5
Fro: 9-6
jonthomson: 9-6
reverend: 9-6
EternitySpent: 8-7
michelinman: 8-7
Molotov: 8-7
36Holla: 8-7
TheThing: 8-7
Tluck-Person: 8-7
phileeguy: 7-8
Buddhist: 7-8

Comments
* Another Thursday game this week so be sure to make your picks by 6pm EST on Thursday.
* There are sixteen games this week so make your picks count.
* Dick Jauron was fired today

Week 11 Schedule:
Miami at Carolina -
Washington at Dallas -
Cleveland at Detroit -
San Francisco at Green Bay -
Pittsburgh at Kansas City -
Atlanta at NY Giants -
New Orleans at Tampa Bay -
Buffalo at Jacksonville -
Indianapolis at Baltimore -
Seattle at Minnesota -
Arizona at St. Louis -
NY Jets at New England -
Cincinnati at Oakland -
San Diego at Denver -
Philadelphia at Chicago -
Tennessee at Houston -

I'm starting late I guess, but count me in for the last 6 weeks.

At 11/17/09 05:03 PM, reverend wrote:
Week 11 Schedule:
Miami at Carolina -

Two struggling teams that are very similar. Great run offense. A Ted Ginn kickoff return makes the difference.

Miami

Washington at Dallas -

If Dallas loses this one, I'm picking them to lose the rest of the season. This isn't a game they can lose after that horrible game at Green Bay.

Dallas

Cleveland at Detroit -

Two very similar teams on paper. Both completely atrocious, with rookie starting quarterbacks. I'll give this one to Detroit just cause they are playing at home.

Detroit

San Francisco at Green Bay -

Packers gain confidence from their win against Dallas. With freezing temperatures at Lambeau field, the Pack takes this one.

Green Bay

Pittsburgh at Kansas City -

This one is too easy.

Pittsburgh

Atlanta at NY Giants -

The Giants stop the incessant bleeding and snap a losing streak.

New York

New Orleans at Tampa Bay -

New Orleans

Buffalo at Jacksonville -

The Bills start Fitzpatrick, but he fails to find T.O. just as much as Edwards did.

Jacksonville

Indianapolis at Baltimore -

The Colts keep rollin', rollin', rollin' a la Fred Duerst

Indianapolis

Seattle at Minnesota -

Who would have thought that at 40 years old, Favre would be having the best year of his whole career. Seattle does not have enough to stop the Vikings multi headed attack.

Minnesota

Arizona at St. Louis -

A 1 and 8 Rams team cannot stop a Cardinals team that is back to playing like they did last year in the home stretch and the playoffs.

Arizona

NY Jets at New England -

Hmm I just want the Jets to come into Foxborough and Rex Ryan to have his way with Bill Belichick.

New York

Cincinnati at Oakland -

Cincinnati

San Diego at Denver -

San Diego is too hot for Denver right now.

San Diego

Philadelphia at Chicago -

With Westbrook out again the Eagles get shut down by the Bears defense.

Chicago

Tennessee at Houston -

Vince Young finally shows that he deserves the starting position and Tennessee takes this one in a high scoring, tight game.

Tennessee

Carolina Panthers > Miami Dolphins.

Just getting that in so I don't forget, I'll pick the rest of the games when I get more time later in the week.

TheThing: 8-7

Damn, I'm losing my touch.

Here's to hoping that my picks are a bit more solid.

Week 11 Schedule:
Miami at Carolina -

Dolphins

Washington at Dallas -

Cowboys

Cleveland at Detroit -

Lions

San Francisco at Green Bay -

Niners

Pittsburgh at Kansas City -

Steelers

Atlanta at NY Giants -

Giants

New Orleans at Tampa Bay -

Saints

Buffalo at Jacksonville -

Bills

Indianapolis at Baltimore -

Colts

Seattle at Minnesota -

Vikings

Arizona at St. Louis -

Cardinals

NY Jets at New England -

Patriots

Cincinnati at Oakland -

Bengals

San Diego at Denver -

Broncos

Philadelphia at Chicago -

Bears

Tennessee at Houston -

Texans

At 11/17/09 05:03 PM, reverend wrote: * Dick Jauron was fired today

No surprise there. I'm still waiting for the hammer to drop on Mangini too.

Anywho, I'm feeling good even with the horrible last week picks. Why? Well I can't do any worse can I? Bounce-back time.

yeah right...

Week 11 Schedule:
Miami at Carolina -

Carolina has only won 2 games in a row once this season, and that was against Washington and then Tampa successively. I don't see them winning two in a row here.
Miami

Washington at Dallas -

Dallas

Cleveland at Detroit -

Both are 1-8 teams, both have young QBs that are struggling. They're 31st and 32nd respectively in the league of yardage given up. So that's all pretty much a wash. Mangini - even though he's done a poor job with the Browns - has more experience at head coach than Schwartz.
Cleveland

San Francisco at Green Bay -

Green Bay

Pittsburgh at Kansas City -

Pittsburgh

Atlanta at NY Giants -

Giants have had a week off to reflect on losing 4 in a row and prepare for Atlanta. I don't think they like losing much right now.
New York

New Orleans at Tampa Bay -

New Orleans

Buffalo at Jacksonville -

Jauron's out. That's not a good thing right now, perhaps in the future, but not now.
Jacksonville

Indianapolis at Baltimore -

Colts are riding high, but I have a feeling this might be a close one.
Indianapolis

Seattle at Minnesota -

Minnesota

Arizona at St. Louis -

Arizona

NY Jets at New England -

Belichick will take his anger over last week's loss out on the Jets... I think
New England

Cincinnati at Oakland -

Cincinnati

San Diego at Denver -

San Diego

Philadelphia at Chicago -

2 struggling teams, both desperately needing a win to keep themselves relevant in the wild card/division races. Philly has played well in Chicago over the past decade or so, but lost in their most recent trip there due to red zone and 4th down problems (sound familiar?). It's also an NBC Sunday Night game, which the Eagles are 0-7 in. That said, Cutler has been bad this year too. Both teams have similar defensive numbers, are pass happy, and have a sub-par rushing game. Still, I can't see Donovan laying an egg in his hometown, nor the Eagles shooting themselves in their feet again, even though they're very capable of doing so.

Now watch the Bears end up winning :/ after I said that. But I'm still going with

Philadelphia

Tennessee at Houston -

I'm going to keep riding this horse 'til he can't take me any further. That horse's name is Chris Johnson
Tennessee

Week 11 Schedule:
Miami at Carolina -

Carolina has been rather hot lately, but I'm going to go with Miami here.

Dolphins

Washington at Dallas -

Dallas

Cleveland at Detroit -

Both teams show that they can sometimes keep up with the bigger teams, but not for long.

Detroit

San Francisco at Green Bay -

A tough fight, but since it's at Green Bay...

Packers

Pittsburgh at Kansas City -

Pittsburgh

Atlanta at NY Giants -

Giants

New Orleans at Tampa Bay -

Saints

Buffalo at Jacksonville -

Jacksonville

Indianapolis at Baltimore -

Colts

Seattle at Minnesota -

Vikings

Arizona at St. Louis -

I'm almost thinking upset though.

Arizona

NY Jets at New England -

If they go for it on fourth down this week let's hope they make it.

New England

Cincinnati at Oakland -

Bengals

San Diego at Denver -

Chargers

Only because Orton is hurting, but prove me wrong Broncos.

Philadelphia at Chicago -

Philly

Tennessee at Houston -

Houston

Carolina
Dallas
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Minny
Green Bay
NYG
Nawlins
J'Ville
Indy
'Zona
SD
Cincy
NE
Philly
Houston

Miami at Carolina - Carolina
Washington at Dallas - Dallas
Cleveland at Detroit - Detroit
San Francisco at Green Bay - Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Kansas City - Pittsburgh
Atlanta at NY Giants - Giants
New Orleans at Tampa Bay - New Orleans
Buffalo at Jacksonville - Buffalo
Indianapolis at Baltimore - Indy
Seattle at Minnesota - Minnesota
Arizona at St. Louis - Arizona
NY Jets at New England - New England
Cincinnati at Oakland - Cincy
San Diego at Denver - San Diego
Philadelphia at Chicago - Philadelphia (shut up)
Tennessee at Houston - Houston

Miami at Carolina - Dolphins
Washington at Dallas - Cowboys
Cleveland at Detroit - Lions (Game of the weak)
San Francisco at Green Bay - Packers
Pittsburgh at Kansas City - Steelers
Atlanta at NY Giants - Giants
New Orleans at Tampa Bay - Saints
Buffalo at Jacksonville - Jaguars
Indianapolis at Baltimore - Ravens
Seattle at Minnesota - Vikings
Arizona at St. Louis - Cardinals
NY Jets at New England - Pats
Cincinnati at Oakland - Bengals
San Diego at Denver - Broncos
Philadelphia at Chicago - Eagles

Miami at Carolina - Dolphins
Washington at Dallas - Cowboys
Cleveland at Detroit - Lions
San Francisco at Green Bay - Packers
Pittsburgh at Kansas City - Steelers
Atlanta at NY Giants - Giants
New Orleans at Tampa Bay - Saints
Buffalo at Jacksonville - Bills
Indianapolis at Baltimore - Colts
Seattle at Minnesota - Vikings
Arizona at St. Louis - Cardinals
NY Jets at New England - Patriots
Cincinnati at Oakland - Bengals
San Diego at Denver - Chargers
Philadelphia at Chicago - Eagles

Miami at Carolina - Carolina
Washington at Dallas - Dallas
Cleveland at Detroit - Detroit
San Francisco at Green Bay - Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Kansas City - Pittsburgh
Atlanta at NY Giants - NY Giants
New Orleans at Tampa Bay - New Orleans
Buffalo at Jacksonville - Jacksonville
Indianapolis at Baltimore - Indianapolis
Seattle at Minnesota - Minnesota
Arizona at St. Louis - Arizona
NY Jets at New England - New England
Cincinnati at Oakland - Cincinnati
San Diego at Denver - San Diego
Philadelphia at Chicago - Philadelphia
Tennessee at Houston - Houston