At 9/10/05 11:52 AM, Xiivi wrote: Bah, at least I've cancelled out the losing of VP. Now I just need to gain VP. If only it didn't take over a week to gain a +0.01. >_>

I think it takes longer than. I wonder how it takes before shrapnel sees a change, dont worry I added you to my list your 8.93vp qualifies.

At 9/10/05 03:17 PM, X-Naut wrote: Great update Iscrulz,as for me yet again i'm getting nowhere fast on the list. =(

You'll just have to be patient and deposit daily. PimpmasterKDOG, TooCool100, and ~X~ look like the ones that would pass you.

At 9/10/05 04:41 PM, EKRegulus wrote: awesome work dude

thanks.

first exact top 100 list since gfox's updates :P

close. I should check the -absentmind- b/p 51+ for anyone missing usually they have 15-17 and EGBG around there. Plus I wonder what Shak3s vp is.

Passing the inactive rebel shouldn't be a problem. It will take a longer while to pass Dekathos but it'll happen unless he ranks up.

Your base vp is still increase faster compared to them so youll pass them.In 5 days Dekathos high exp stops him from getting quicker vp boost based on vp.

089.) 10.00 +.05 carmelhadinosaur +3

Please don't rank-up :)

thats the only one you should be concerned with.

At 9/10/05 08:18 PM, wismty wrote: Excellent update iscRulz, I finally achieved one of my main goals I've been aiming for since I joined Newgrounds; Getting into the top 50 Voting Power list, and by now I think it's pretty much safe to assume that my place there is sealed. :)

I would say its sealed to. I just wish I could say the same for myself. I keep saying I need one more rank up to be on the list. Once I rank up I will most likely be over 10.00 which is good enough.

And I'm only about 800 B/P points away from Elite Guard General, which gives me that tantalizing 7% increase (insert evil laughter).

Well its the biggest boost as you can see in toocool case. So you'll be ranked about 30 when it happens.

At 9/5/05 03:21 AM, iscRulz wrote: sounds good g. All right am I on the list now.
Voting Power: 9.80 votes

I would have thought so... but amazingly, there's around 90 people over 10.00 VP now. Last I had personally checked, it was only 82 or 83. But that was a couple months ago, so....

Yeah. Wowza. 9.8 VP doesn't buy what it used to, eh?

At 9/5/05 11:20 AM, nimmer wrote: oh noes not another curse... * runs around like a headless chicken in a barnyard* not ANOTHER cuuuuuuuuuuurse....

Ohhhh, not that kind of curse, really. :::shifty eyes:::

... I mean...

I mean...

thx but what goes up must come down.

Oh, certainly. But you're very close to passing someone on the list by just depositing, so I have a feeling you might actually go up a bit further BEFORE you have to come down some due to people passing you. #;-}>

mmmm innphernoe is only 1300 b/p away from the next rank....

And moving up at like 20 b/p per month. I think I can manage, man. O_o I'm actually much more worried that HAQnSPITT might one day resume b/ping at a rate she once did...

congrats

Thanks. 11.99 as of today... just 6 or so days till 12.00. :::nods:::

At 9/5/05 12:15 PM, Nomader wrote: Is that 5.26 voting power on the first page still accurate for its rank? (#582) I'm just curious...

If the 5.26 VP at the bottom of the nearly top 600 list I posted back in January 2004 or whenever... was still accurate around 20 months later...

then there would be something SERIOUSLY wrong with the stat systems here on Newgrounds, doesn't you think?

Look, it's no big deal (and yes, I know someone's already answered ya), but it is so much to ask that new users to this topic (or any other list topic) NOTICE THE TIME STAMP on the posts from page 1 and then the time stamps on the posts from the LAST/most recent page as well? If there's a difference greater than a few weeks or a month or two... then any list from page 1 is insanely and almost totally INACCURATE in all likelihood. That's how time works, people.

At 9/5/05 05:33 PM, EKRegulus wrote: Of course not but I posted that part anyway because he completely ignored the posts right below wimsty's update which contained a few links to users that were obviously in the top 100.

Yes, he did. But he may have done that by accident, not maliciously. IOW, I'm sure he didn't MEAN to leave you and 9 others off the list, he just made a mistake. So don't give him such a hard time for it, eh? That's all I was trying to say. I think RedCircle was trying to say it as well, but he didn't make an attempt to say it as diplomatically as I did. #;-}>

That's what I did on my next post. I forgot to type the IDs though but I told everyone how I found them so it shouldn't be difficult for a motivated update lister to find them again.

Whoops!

hahaha

:::rolling teh eyes:::

At 9/10/05 03:34 AM, -Gooch- wrote: Well, with a level thirteen, you wouldn't exactly think that. However, since I was a blam/protect whore in my first few ten or so months of being a fully active Newgrounds member, I got the EGSC badge fairly quick.

300+ days of b/pwhoring will certainly help with that, yeah... #;-}>

At 9/10/05 07:35 AM, iscRulz wrote: Top Voting Power V.1.4 (with profile links)

Sweetness. It's awesome how so many users have been helping to make updates since I killed the weekly, "official unofficial" top 500 updates. Kinda like how people pitched in on the EGRL when Dogma was MIA for ~6-8 months in 2003-2004. Great job!

010.) 12.42 +.01 staphita
011.) 12.40 +.52 nimmer +7
012.) 12.27 +.04 ReconRebel -1
013.) 12.08 +.01 Stormwarden -1
014.) 12.03 +.03 Crono- -1
015.) 11.98 +.03 gfoxcook -1
016.) 11.90 +.01 innphernoe -1
017.) 11.88 +.01 HAQnSPITT -1
018.) 11.88 +.01 DuMa_RyoHahn -1
019.) 11.80 +.16 DrMSM +2
020.) 11.72 unch Narcissus -1

And there we go. Nimmer ALMOST even got staphita as well (but not quite). What a leap, what a leap. It's been awhile since we've had a +0.50 or more leap in the top 20....

Anyway, good show, good show. I'm just glad to still be in the top 15. And right now, the only people directly threatening me are innphernoe, HAQnSPITT, DrMSM, and Narcissus, really. And none of them b/p very much anymore, though DrMSM obviously just ranked up (1900+ away from the next one, though, thankfully).

Anywho... Just livin' on borrowed time here, as usual. 12.00, here I come!

(replying to list update ver. 1.4 continued:)

050.) 10.69 -.03 D0GMA -3

OH NOE!

088.) 10.01 +.01 southy -1
089.) 10.00 +.05 carmelhadinosaur +3
090.) 09.99 -.02 pingpong08 -5

Goddamnit! If pingpong08 wasn't such a nondepositing bastard, we woulda had 90 people over 10.00... but that'll be fixed soon enough, I'm sure.

091.) 09.97 +.01 Vash-The-Stampede
092.) 09.96 -.01 fixit -2

That goes double for fixit... stupid non-depositing robot! Then again, if he were depositing, he'd probably also be b/ping... so... um... nevermind. #;-}>

096.) 09.91 +.04 jonthomson

Go, jon, go! :::doing his part:::

100.) 09.82 +.02 TimScheff -5

Bringin' up the rear... I hope he doesn't fall off soon. ;_;

user near the list BonusStage, Iscrulz, bmxgamer and Muhammad_Hassan(Crow-)

At the same time, good luck to people trying to legitimately enter the now-more-accurate list for the first time. GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE. May the most statly win.

At 9/10/05 11:52 AM, Xiivi wrote:

At 9/10/05 07:35 AM, iscRulz wrote: Rank/VP/Change/Username/Rank Up(Drop)
001.) 14.38 unch NeMeSiSM66

Bah, at least I've cancelled out the losing of VP. Now I just need to gain VP. If only it didn't take over a week to gain a +0.01. >_>

You, sir, are teh SUCK.

Stop depositing for that dead behemoth of an account. Let Yoink and ramagi and the rest of 'em have a shot at a legit #1 spot. ;_;

At 9/10/05 03:17 PM, X-Naut wrote: Great update Iscrulz,as for me yet again i'm getting nowhere fast on the list. =(

Such is the lot of us EGSCs, man. Haven't you gotten used to it yet? #;-}>

At 9/10/05 04:41 PM, EKRegulus wrote: awesome work dude

first exact top 100 list since gfox's updates :P

Is that so? I coulda sworn there'd been a few. I guess most of the updates were top 51 or 101 (and hey, what was wrong with my top 101 update from May 31st? It was accurate, and just +1 from an exact top 100, so it should really count #;-}>).

but yeah, it's been different since March.

At 9/10/05 08:18 PM, wismty wrote: Excellent update iscRulz, I finally achieved one of my main goals I've been aiming for since I joined Newgrounds; Getting into the top 50 Voting Power list, and by now I think it's pretty much safe to assume that my place there is sealed. :)

Congrats on getting to the top 50, man! Your greatness is now stamped forevermore on the landscape of NG. #;-}>

And I'm only about 800 B/P points away from Elite Guard General, which gives me that tantalizing 7% increase (insert evil laughter).

Ooooooooooo... like nimmer just reamed a lot of us with. Have fun with that, man. You might jump from like #45 to the 30-35 range with that rankup. :::nods:::

At 9/11/05 11:08 AM, iscRulz wrote: I think it takes longer than. I wonder how it takes before shrapnel sees a change, dont worry I added you to my list your 8.93vp qualifies.

Shrapnel has been at 11.32 and 11.33 (going back and forth between 'em depending on when he/humantarget deposit during the day) for like a year.

So... yeah. It takes a long time. NemesisM66 at least has a high % bonus and thus can gain 0.01 at least once a month, if not a bit more rapidly.

But seeing as how it's just KIBA doing it now, not the actual NemesisM66... bleh.

I would say its sealed to. I just wish I could say the same for myself. I keep saying I need one more rank up to be on the list. Once I rank up I will most likely be over 10.00 which is good enough.

Getting 10.00 is much cooler than any particular rank on the list (except perhaps #1, of course #;-}>).

Getting to 12.00 is what's made me cool with dropping from #14 to #15, and 12 is nowhere near as important as 10... it's still a good landmark, though. As are ALL the x.00s, IMO.

At 9/12/05 01:48 AM, gfoxcook wrote:

At 9/10/05 03:17 PM, X-Naut wrote: Great update Iscrulz,as for me yet again i'm getting nowhere fast on the list. =(

Such is the lot of us EGSCs, man. Haven't you gotten used to it yet? #;-}>

Hey when i first got EGSC i was still getting up in those ranks but with the huge gap between me and thisisasignin and with him depositing almost as much as i do,oh well i will get up there hopefully soon enough,i'm much happy with top 25 anyways. =)

At 9/10/05 07:35 AM, iscRulz wrote: Rank/VP/Change/Username/Rank Up(Drop)
011.) 12.40 +.52 nimmer +7
012.) 12.27 +.04 ReconRebel -1
013.) 12.08 +.01 Stormwarden -1

Bah, I dropped a rank. At least nimmer bumped 6 other people as well so it's not too bad. If more of these high level accounts start gaining b/p ranks some of us could be in serious trouble. I don't want to be left behind. * sob *

One day I will. It's as if I spent forever around 50th spot =. (

At 9/11/05 11:08 AM, iscRulz wrote: I think it takes longer than. I wonder how it takes before shrapnel sees a change, dont worry I added you to my list your 8.93vp qualifies.

Yeah, it takes about 3 weeks, and that's a really long time compared to the rate this account has its VP increase. I don't see why you need to add me to the list now, I won't be in the area of the top 100 VP for quite some time, I'm pretty distant right now.

At 9/12/05 01:48 AM, gfoxcook wrote: You, sir, are teh SUCK.

Oh cry me a river and swim in it for a while to cool down. Deal with it.

Stop depositing for that dead behemoth of an account.

Well first off, no. I'm depositing with it, I kept on bugging Nemesism66 telling him to keep depositing. He said he lost interest, and if you remember back with the Vash-The-Stampede situation you'd know I don't like seeing accounts die, period. So he just eventually said "Username: Nemesism66
Pass: ********
have fun". And I that point I took over.

Let Yoink and ramagi and the rest of 'em have a shot at a legit #1 spot. ;_;

I fail to see how you should be the one telling me this. I don't see you giving people a shot to rise in the experience ranks do I? I've never cared that you're holding me down three spots instead of just one, but I sure think I would if I was in MPA's position. Always 10 experience points behind someone's alternate account. So if you think that's fair while depositing with the Nemesism66 account isn't then don't complain about it. I don't care, but I'm sure others do. But that isn't going to stop you, so why should it stop me?

So... yeah. It takes a long time. NemesisM66 at least has a high % bonus and thus can gain 0.01 at least once a month, if not a bit more rapidly.

Yeah, as stated before it's around 3 weeks, give or take a few days.

But seeing as how it's just KIBA doing it now, not the actual NemesisM66... bleh.

Oh, so just because a different person is doing it, then it's suddenly wrong? So whenever someone goes off on a vacation and they have a friend deposit for them it's "bleh"? ReconRebel deposits with a lot of high level accounts, no one complains. You deposit with alts, no one complains (I wouldn't have complained if it weren't for this situation). Thus, we I deposit for Nemesism66, don't complain.

lmao

xiivi/nemesis66 is like the jamie_mcguire/swive situation part 2 with much higher stats. ;/

At 9/11/05 11:08 AM, iscRulz wrote: close. I should check the -absentmind- b/p 51+ for anyone missing usually they have 15-17 and EGBG around there. Plus I wonder what Shak3s vp is.

I think that your current top100 is exact unless a user that wasn't considered during the previous update gained a lot of vp % from a rank-up but I really doubt it. As for Shak3s, he doesn't even deposit regularly so he probably doesn't b/p much. One thing is sure... he's not on the top 150 b/p ers so his voting power is probably not high enough for the current top100.

thats the only one you should be concerned with.

Don't underestimate the others. Their b/p ing pace might be slow but they're active so they'll rank-up in the future. Their levels are decent so the vp boosting % will be good enough to catch (and maybe pass) me.

At 9/12/05 01:48 AM, gfoxcook wrote: Goddamnit! If pingpong08 wasn't such a nondepositing bastard, we woulda had 90 people over 10.00... but that'll be fixed soon enough, I'm sure.

pingpong08 not depositing. ahhaha That's very old news. :)

At 9/10/05 04:41 PM, EKRegulus wrote:

Is that so? I coulda sworn there'd been a few. I guess most of the updates were top 51 or 101 (and hey, what was wrong with my top 101 update from May 31st? It was accurate, and just +1 from an exact top 100, so it should really count #;-}>).

Right. I think PimpmasterKDOG's updates were complete (for the top 50 or 100) but I wasn't sure. Anyway, the current VP list is different so it'll be difficult to check if his updates were exact or not. #;-}>)

Only 0.03 vp to gain before I reach another cool number. 10.10 vp :P

At 9/12/05 01:47 AM, gfoxcook wrote: Ohhhh, not that kind of curse, really. :::shifty eyes:::

yeah yeah yeah. that's what they all say ; and the next thing you know i get all these different colors and bubbles and stuff and before you know it i'm a treefrog. do you know what i have to spend each year on magical mystery tours?

... I mean...

I mean...

Oh, certainly. But you're very close to passing someone on the list by just depositing, so I have a feeling you might actually go up a bit further BEFORE you have to come down some due to people passing you. #;-}>

i can only hope that staphita doesn't rank up before i get passed him or i will have to wait 'till Joe misses a few deposites ( heh like that'll ever happen)

:That's how time works, people.

ROFLMAO

010.) 12.42 +.01 staphita
011.) 12.40 +.52 nimmer +7
012.) 12.27 +.04 ReconRebel -1
013.) 12.08 +.01 Stormwarden -1
014.) 12.03 +.03 Crono- -1
015.) 11.98 +.03 gfoxcook -1

And there we go. Nimmer ALMOST even got staphita as well (but not quite). What a leap, what a leap. It's been awhile since we've had a +0.50 or more leap in the top 20....

ah well to bad for the # 10 spot. but it's all good.

Anywho... Just livin' on borrowed time here, as usual. 12.00, here I come!

RUN GFOX RUN

At 9/12/05 03:09 AM, ReconRebel wrote:

At 9/10/05 07:35 AM, iscRulz wrote: Rank/VP/Change/Username/Rank Up(Drop)
011.) 12.40 +.52 nimmer +7
012.) 12.27 +.04 ReconRebel -1
013.) 12.08 +.01 Stormwarden -1

Bah, I dropped a rank. At least nimmer bumped 6 other people as well so it's not too bad. If more of these high level accounts start gaining b/p ranks some of us could be in serious trouble. I don't want to be left behind. * sob *

awww. anyway with our level we'll be quite safely in the top 15 for a while.

I would have been ranked *sigh* 578 on the first list....

I hate watching other users drop like fixit. He's never depositing. Oh well then that means it will leave me for a spot one day. Unless the higher lvls finally start blaming.

At 9/13/05 02:00 PM, Nightmare wrote: Nice update iscRulz.

Thanks you should get those b/p you have the potential to be in top 20. Anyways I wonder if I should update this weekly on saturday or do it whenever the list goes inactive for awhile.

At 9/15/05 05:00 PM, BonusStage wrote: Since gfox reads this

http://www.newground../topic.php?id=345227

I SAID YOU OK, FUCK YOU SLUT I LOVE YOU, FUCK

Spam. Plz ban.

-->KDOG

At 9/12/05 03:01 AM, Fawful wrote: Hey when i first got EGSC i was still getting up in those ranks but with the huge gap between me and thisisasignin and with him depositing almost as much as i do,oh well i will get up there hopefully soon enough,i'm much happy with top 25 anyways. =)

(hey, what's with the name changing all over the place lately? I hope you protected X-Naut with an alt this time)

When I first got EGSC, I jumped to #25 in the ranks, and then I moved up from #25 to #20 in a few months. And then it took me over a year to get from #20 to #15, so I know what you mean.

And yeah, I knows what you mean about the top 25. But trust me, once you increase that to the top 20, you want to hang on to that... and then with the top 15... and if you're in reach of the top 10, or have just fallen out of it after having made it (just ask Recon), the top 10 madness will set in as well. :::nods:::

At 9/12/05 03:09 AM, ReconRebel wrote:

011.) 12.40 +.52 nimmer +7

Bah, I dropped a rank. At least nimmer bumped 6 other people as well so it's not too bad. If more of these high level accounts start gaining b/p ranks some of us could be in serious trouble. I don't want to be left behind. * sob *

Misery loves company, eh? Heh. Anyway, I know what you mean. If you get passed by someone and NO one else gets passed by them (like say you... and soon enough myself... getting passed by MPA in devastating style on the pentalist), it's a lot harder to take than the pain being spread out over many many people. :::nods:::

At 9/12/05 07:17 AM, BonusStage wrote: WELP, i'm not on this one heh, i can only imagine why :P, just playing, at least i am close to getting on it, yet the only chance i have is to just deposit and keep depositing, so i guess i will do that :).

Well, technically you shouldn't have been on any of them, not just this one. And yes, you are quuuuuite close. Good luck, man. Mr. super-low exp EGSC-y dude. #;-}>

At 9/12/05 03:48 PM, -Myst- wrote: One day I will. It's as if I spent forever around 50th spot =. (

XwaynecoltX experienced the same thing, more or less. But don't worry, man. If you want 'em, you've got plenty of rankups yet ahead. And you're gonna be on the pentalist, too! So don't give up. ;_;

At 9/13/05 12:22 AM, EKRegulus wrote: pingpong08 not depositing. ahhaha That's very old news. :)

Sure. But him dropping under 10.00 is very recent news. Within the past week or so, in fact.

You may not recall, I know it's ancient history now... but I used to post the total number of people over landmark stats like 10.00 VP in here. I liked seeing that number go up and up and up. Pingpong dropping to 9.99 on that last update is what cost us having 90 people over 10.00, so that's why I bitched about his lack of depositing, even though that's been the case for months and months and months. It only hurt the 10.00+ category THIS month, not all the rest of that time, yasee. #;-}>

At 9/13/05 08:35 AM, nimmer wrote: yeah yeah yeah. that's what they all say ; and the next thing you know i get all these different colors and bubbles and stuff and before you know it i'm a treefrog. do you know what i have to spend each year on magical mystery tours?

Treefrog. Heh. That's not so bad.

i can only hope that staphita doesn't rank up before i get passed him or i will have to wait 'till Joe misses a few deposites ( heh like that'll ever happen)

Well, if he does rank up before you pass him, then at least you won't have to GET passed by him soon afterwards. Either way, there's a pro and a con, yanno?

awww. anyway with our level we'll be quite safely in the top 15 for a while.

HMPH! So you say to Recon. But with MY level, i.e. one lower than you guys... I don't get the same safely-in-the-top-15 assurances, eh? #;-}>

At 9/14/05 12:20 AM, Jareddeitch wrote: I would have been ranked *sigh* 578 on the first list....

Sign-up Date:
07/06/2005

Yeah, but... dude... the first list was from early 2004. You had 0 exp back then. So... technically you couldn't have ranked at all on the first list. Plus, the first list in here isn't accurate down below around 500-550, so... Eh. Just keep on moving up, like Bonus encouraged ya to.

At 9/14/05 12:38 AM, AnzRage wrote: I hate watching other users drop like fixit. He's never depositing. Oh well then that means it will leave me for a spot one day. Unless the higher lvls finally start blaming.

Another person who dislikes watching idle accounts dropping!

Look, I admit I felt more like you guys back when I ran this list up till March. The non-depositors hurt the overall list performance, the number of people over 8.00, 9.00, 10.00, 11.00, etc... and the combined VP totals for the top 100, 200, 300, etc.

But as an individual trying to make his way up and up and up, idle accounts are the only things that save me.

Why? Because I was an idle account for most of 2000, 2001, and 2002.

Tit for tat, baby.

At 9/15/05 01:15 AM, iscRulz wrote: Thanks you should get those b/p you have the potential to be in top 20. Anyways I wonder if I should update this weekly on saturday or do it whenever the list goes inactive for awhile.

If you do it every week, you run the risk of burning out. I recommend either going every two weeks (about twice a month), or rotating with the other people who have been making updates (Bonus, wismty, PMKD, etc.)...

At 9/15/05 05:00 PM, BonusStage wrote: Since gfox reads this

http://www.newground../topic.php?id=345227

I SAID YOU OK, FUCK YOU SLUT I LOVE YOU, FUCK

O_O

I soooooooo need a restraining order about now. And BTW, the part about AIM makes me want to stay off AIM for another 3 months. #;-}>

Some day you should drop me a sane IM or e-mail or something. Yanno? :::nods:::

At 9/15/05 10:35 PM, PimpMasterKDOG wrote: Spam. Plz ban.

-->KDOG

I've asked people to drop me a note in here or my other list topic if they needed to reach me in the past, since I don't check my e-mail as often as I check these topics... so really, it's an approved thing as long as it's not overdone. However, it WOULD be nice if Bonus could offer a little bit more in his posts than "gfox read this" + "link" + "AOHAWOHTAWOHAP." #;-}>

surprised gfox replies to seemingly-miffed Kiba with a heavy stat-heart... part 1 ;_;

At 9/12/05 11:51 PM, Xiivi wrote:

At 9/12/05 01:48 AM, gfoxcook wrote: You, sir, are teh SUCK.

Oh cry me a river and swim in it for a while to cool down. Deal with it.

Dude... Double-u Tee Eff?

I guess it wasn't obvious because I didn't spray my smilies all over the post (and people wonder why I have a habit of doing that... this kinda explains why), but I wasn't entirely SERIOUS in that portion of my posting on Sunday night. Hell, look at the REST of my post. You kinda took that chunk directed at you/depositing for Nemesis a BIT out of context, man.

I'm being entirely serious right now, though: I didn't need to cool down or "deal with it" at the time of writing that stuff... because you depositing for NemesisM66 doesn't really bother me all that much. Oh sure, I don't like it, but it doesn't make me angry or even upset or even mildly tiffed. I spent maybe 1 minute or so thinking about the topic that night and then started thinking ahead to how crappy Monday was going to be at work (and yes, I was right).

I can't believe you thought I was attacking you or some bullshit like that. Dude... what you must think of me. ;_;

Stop depositing for that dead behemoth of an account.

Well first off, no. I'm depositing with it, I kept on bugging Nemesism66 telling him to keep depositing. He said he lost interest, and if you remember back with the Vash-The-Stampede situation you'd know I don't like seeing accounts die, period. So he just eventually said "Username: Nemesism66
Pass: ********
have fun". And I that point I took over.

I don't get why you and some others have a problem seeing old accounts die. Old accounts have to die for new ones to make it big. And if you or anyone else was rooting for me to stop depositing so you could get ahead of me? I'd be fine with that. It's called competition.

Let Yoink and ramagi and the rest of 'em have a shot at a legit #1 spot. ;_;

I fail to see how you should be the one telling me this. I don't see you giving people a shot to rise in the experience ranks do I? I've never cared that you're holding me down three spots instead of just one, but I sure think I would if I was in MPA's position. Always 10 experience points behind someone's alternate account. So if you think that's fair while depositing with the Nemesism66 account isn't then don't complain about it. I don't care, but I'm sure others do. But that isn't going to stop you, so why should it stop me?

And I fail to see how, even had I been completely serious in my posting, and thus it wouldn't seem so very strange to see someone I thought was fairly laid-back (teh Kiba) posting like he had a porcupine quill shot into his ass suddenly... even had that been the case, what gives you the right to tell me I can't complain? o_O

I'm not ramagi and Yoink, and I wasn't trying to speak for them. I was saying I'd like to see CHANGE at the top. IMO, if the man on top of the pile doesn't care about staying there, even though it only takes 1 minute a day to do so, then that account should stay retired. But it was his decision to give out the username/password info, so whaddayagonnado. I wish you hadn't bugged him enough for him to give in, though.

Incidentally... You say you don't like to see accounts die, period. But then why haven't you gone to every other ancient (99/00 signup) user who isn't depositing at all (or much) and asked for their passwords through whatever means necessary (BBS, AIM, e-mail, etc.) so that you can deposit for all 50 or so of 'em in the top 100 who are dropping like rocks?

And since you aren't doing that... why are you depositing for NemesisM66 specifically? ...

surprised gfox replies to seemingly-miffed Kiba with a heavy stat-heart... part 2 ;_;

...

And since you aren't doing that... why are you depositing for NemesisM66 specifically?

Because he's #1 in VP.

And why are you depositing for him because of that? Either you like to see greatness stay great, you like him specifically and don't want to see his account falling, you think the higher the top VP person on NG has their VP, the better it is for the site (it WAS better for the "combined top 100 VP total" I used to display in my list updates, come to think of it, so... heh).... or... you like holding everyone else down a bit with a bit of sadistic pleasure. Humantarget style, only not so bad (since at least VP dominance doesn't cause direct day-to-day pains like the level 30 does).... or you want to do him a favour for whatever reason... or you want to see him one day hit EGSC and have a huge 15.00+VP (grumble... coulda been... me... too).... etc. etc. I can't guess your entire motivations. I'm just pointing out that while there's a lot of reasons to do it, I don't particularly share any of them.

But seeing as how it's just KIBA doing it now, not the actual NemesisM66... bleh.

Oh, so just because a different person is doing it, then it's suddenly wrong? So whenever someone goes off on a vacation and they have a friend deposit for them it's "bleh"? ReconRebel deposits with a lot of high level accounts, no one complains. You deposit with alts, no one complains (I wouldn't have complained if it weren't for this situation). Thus, we I deposit for Nemesism66, don't complain.

First of all, it's not wrong at all. I never said my opinion was fact. I was bitching for fun, as I've been hinting at in this entire post. Bitching just to bitch, you know? Don't tell me you've never done that in your life. Complained about something you knew you had no control over but still felt like complaining about? #;-}>

Secondly (again, IMO (as if I have to say IMO, doesn't it go without saying?)), it's nowhere near the same as a vacation deposit, because the person likely isn't coming back. If I were Recon, I wouldn't be depositing for Bloodthorne, XkwizitOne, phantomspancker, _lightning_, etc. So bringing him up isn't going to point anything out. If he were depositing for NemesisM66, I'd bitch just as much. Hell, didn't you see me bitching when ramagi and/or TheJoe were depositing for him a bit? Cause I did. #;-}>

And again, you've told me not to complain yet again. Why are you so concerned with whether I'm complaining about something or not? And since when is my right to complain about something in doubt? I apologize if you took my "Stop depositing for that behemoth" statement as an angry order or something, but it was merely my expression of my wish and desire at that moment) the idleness of Nem's exp/dropping of his VP would continue (which it had been for awhile, yanno). I was expressing an opinion, in what I thought was a lighthearted manner, but you took it about as bad as anyone could have.

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And BTW... If you don't see the difference between every single high-VP person on this site and NemesisM66... then let me ask you this: do you see the difference between every single high-exp person on this site and humantarget52? (and if HT were to stop depositing, insert the name of "Pimp" at the end of that question instead, as it would apply at that point)

The top dog is ALWAYS a target. This is the way of things. NG's stat systems aren't very cooperative, except in that blams and saves are shared in with fellow voters who feel similarly about the movies you're voting on and that posting takes place when others post. But reviews, exp, and the non-b/p part of VP are all independent, dog-eat-dog, Darwinian stats.

It's the way of things that the underlings should want to take down the oppressors (yes, that means you should want to take me down, of course... we both are above AND below many many people in all the stats, neither of us is at the top or bottom of any stat ranking).

And EVERYONE on this site, I might point out, has someone above them in exp....

Except for HT.

And everyone on this site has someone above them in VP....

Except for NemesisM66.

Only NemesisM66 stopped gaining VP for awhile, and there could have been some interesting changing-of-the-guard shite goin' down. HT isn't going to grant us that same boon anytime soon.

Anyway, I hope I've fleshed out my OPINIONS (remember that) more fully this time. And next time it seems like I'm insulting you, please assume I didn't mean to, Kiba. Just ask Slightly_Crazy_Dude. I accidentally insulted him in level up! and similar mayhem ensued. (sigh)

At 9/16/05 12:54 AM, gfoxcook wrote: surprised gfox replies to seemingly-miffed Kiba with a heavy stat-heart... part 1 ;_;

Surprised gfox? What did you expect me to say? "Ok, I won't deposit, sorry." And I'm seemingly miffed because I already told people, mainly yoink, to deal with it a while ago, yet you had to mention it more.

Dude... Double-u Tee Eff?

Back at you.

I guess it wasn't obvious because I didn't spray my smilies all over the post (and people wonder why I have a habit of doing that... this kinda explains why), but I wasn't entirely SERIOUS in that portion of my posting on Sunday night. Hell, look at the REST of my post. You kinda took that chunk directed at you/depositing for Nemesis a BIT out of context, man.

I stopped with the smilies quite a while ago, I found them to only prove useless, and a strain on character count might I add. So I try not to use them now. You may not have been serious, but you know, I was hoping people would just be quiet about it and let it pass. It may have been a bit out of context, but it got the point across, I hope, and that it is that I'm depositing whether everyone else likes it or not.

I'm being entirely serious right now, though: I didn't need to cool down or "deal with it" at the time of writing that stuff... because you depositing for NemesisM66 doesn't really bother me all that much.

But it bothers others, and you were the one who decided to make some comments about it. And thus, I took to my defense. I don't post much, as always, but I don't need people going around posting "Amir is TEH suck." Even if it is a joke, because, well...none of the new people will really ever see me, so I don't need them having bad INTERNET impressions of me.

Oh sure, I don't like it, but it doesn't make me angry or even upset or even mildly tiffed. I spent maybe 1 minute or so thinking about the topic that night and then started thinking ahead to how crappy Monday was going to be at work (and yes, I was right).

Haha, well, I'm sure this is taking a lot more than a minute now, now isn't it? Don't worry, I'm sure next Monday will be just as crappy.

I can't believe you thought I was attacking you or some bullshit like that. Dude... what you must think of me. ;_;

I can't believe you think I hate you or something. You're one of the more laid back people here, I never really see you get mad at anyone. Nor did I think you were that upset. You were just the spokesperson for some who were upset, and thus you took the arguement.

I don't get why you and some others have a problem seeing old accounts die. Old accounts have to die for new ones to make it big. And if you or anyone else was rooting for me to stop depositing so you could get ahead of me? I'd be fine with that. It's called competition.

I like old accounts, I prefer old over new. I'd rather see fixit continuing to climb and reach heights never thought possible than someone rising through the ranks and passing him. That's just the type of person I am. You call it a competition, I'll use that as my example. I'd rather see an all-star athlete make some more records than dropping out for new people to play. That's how I work.

And I fail to see how, even had I been completely serious in my posting, and thus it wouldn't seem so very strange to see someone I thought was fairly laid-back (teh Kiba) posting like he had a porcupine quill shot into his ass suddenly... even had that been the case, what gives you the right to tell me I can't complain? o_O

You may think I was posting "like I had a porcupine quill shot into my ass suddenly" but it's just my tone. I should probably work on that some more, composition class does nothing really. You can get a better grasp of tone with smilies, but I eliminated those, so no. As for fairly laid back, I still am just check: http://www.newground..nd=a&terms=Xiivi I'm not going to every thread I can arguing with people. I just say what I feel like saying. Nothing gives me the right to tell you that you can't complain, but I sure do have the right to complain about your complaints.

I'm not ramagi and Yoink, and I wasn't trying to speak for them.

But that's how you sounded, thus you could work on tone as well. *normally sassy smiley goes here*

I was saying I'd like to see CHANGE at the top. IMO, if the man on top of the pile doesn't care about staying there, even though it only takes 1 minute a day to do so, then that account should stay retired.

Or it could be passed on to the future generation so the past doesn't die out, like many of the older accounts have tended to do, and it sucks to be frank. I'm not one for changes when it comes to placements. When I see a #1, it annoys me seeing it change, I'm static, not dynamic.

But it was his decision to give out the username/password info, so whaddayagonnado. I wish you hadn't bugged him enough for him to give in, though.

Well, when I say I bugged him a lot, I meant a total of 3 e-mails. Which isn't a lot, I was just exaggerating. One initial e-mail to see why he was stopping. Another to try and get him to deposit, and another to tell him to deposit or die.

Incidentally... You say you don't like to see accounts die, period. But then why haven't you gone to every other ancient (99/00 signup) user who isn't depositing at all (or much) and asked for their passwords through whatever means necessary (BBS, AIM, e-mail, etc.) so that you can deposit for all 50 or so of 'em in the top 100 who are dropping like rocks?

Ah, but there is one major flaw in your logic gfox. And that is I DO do that. I've attempted to contact everyone in the top 100 experience that isn't depositing, and then some. What you don't realize is that I deposit for 12 accounts daily. Remember this guy: http://www.newground..late.php3?id=1048230
He was at about 500 experience points when I took over. After some time he made it obvious he really didn't care as much and wouldn't be depositing, and I took it over for that account, since I didn't care to see it die. So, yes, I DO try to save accounts that I can save, but a lot of times they don't respond or anything. I mean, my AIM list is polluted with the AIMs of high experience users in hopes that they will sign on. I did that wish Vash, and I would have deposited for his account had he not taken it himself. And I've only been able to see Kitty twice. As well as others not at all.

At 9/16/05 12:55 AM, gfoxcook wrote: And since you aren't doing that... why are you depositing for NemesisM66 specifically?

I am doing that, and I'm doing it for Nemesism66 because I noticed and care.

Because he's #1 in VP.

That's one thing, but I really wouldn't mind taking over for people who were relativly low in experience and other stats. I'm impartial in my account caring, which you should be able to tell by how many people I deposit for already.

And why are you depositing for him because of that? Either you like to see greatness stay great, you like him specifically and don't want to see his account falling, you think the higher the top VP person on NG has their VP, the better it is for the site (it WAS better for the "combined top 100 VP total" I used to display in my list updates, come to think of it, so... heh).... or... you like holding everyone else down a bit with a bit of sadistic pleasure.

Yes, I would like to see his greatness stay great, so that fits. Yes, I had talked to him a few times before and he seemed cool, so I like him specifically and don't want his account to fall, so that fits. Actually when it comes to helping the site, I really think that way as well. I mean, if we have a user with over 15 VP, then doesn't that show how dedicated NGers are? And for the sadistic pleasure, it's just stats, I like them, and want to see them rise, not just go around saying "Hey, I deposit for Nemesism66, that means I'm better than you" to everyone.

Humantarget style, only not so bad (since at least VP dominance doesn't cause direct day-to-day pains like the level 30 does).... or you want to do him a favour for whatever reason... or you want to see him one day hit EGSC and have a huge 15.00+VP (grumble... coulda been... me... too).... etc. etc. I can't guess your entire motivations. I'm just pointing out that while there's a lot of reasons to do it, I don't particularly share any of them.

I really don't mind the humantarget effect. It just makes things more challenging, I don't see why people complain so much. Well, the favour theory doesn't apply to me, but I do plan on getting him to EGSC once I'm on a secure place on the top 50.

First of all, it's not wrong at all. I never said my opinion was fact. I was bitching for fun, as I've been hinting at in this entire post. Bitching just to bitch, you know? Don't tell me you've never done that in your life. Complained about something you knew you had no control over but still felt like complaining about? #;-}>

Everyone does that, but whenever they do it it only leads to things like this. And I finding bitching about your bitching to be fun as well; you bitch.

Secondly (again, IMO (as if I have to say IMO, doesn't it go without saying?)), it's nowhere near the same as a vacation deposit, because the person likely isn't coming back. If I were Recon, I wouldn't be depositing for Bloodthorne, XkwizitOne, phantomspancker, _lightning_, etc. So bringing him up isn't going to point anything out. If he were depositing for NemesisM66, I'd bitch just as much. Hell, didn't you see me bitching when ramagi and/or TheJoe were depositing for him a bit? Cause I did. #;-}>

IMHO (ohh, I outdid you there GFixClick) I do see it the same. Nemesism66 said he may consider coming back at some time, so I think of it as an extended vacation. Well, we all know everyone has to complain about something every now and then to spice up the BBS. I guess this is where you take your part in the action.

And again, you've told me not to complain yet again. Why are you so concerned with whether I'm complaining about something or not?

Because then more people will decide to complain and join in until everyone complains.

And since when is my right to complain about something in doubt?

Don't put words in my mouth, I never said you didn't have the right to complain, I just didn't like you complaining and asked you to stop.

I was expressing an opinion, in what I thought was a lighthearted manner, but you took it about as bad as anyone could have.

I take things more serious than most people seem to. So technically, I did just fine. And I had thought it was a light-hearted manner when I took up the account, but everyone still had to intervene and make complaints.

And BTW... If you don't see the difference between every single high-VP person on this site and NemesisM66... then let me ask you this: do you see the difference between every single high-exp person on this site and humantarget52?

I like having Nemesism66 at the top, it seems right. It was weird when fixit finally feel, because he always seemed the right person to be at the top. When tanner wasn't the highest in post count it seemed weird. So if ~X~ or HT52 ever fall, then it'll seem weird to me. As with Nemesism66.

The top dog is ALWAYS a target. This is the way of things. NG's stat systems aren't very cooperative, except in that blams and saves are shared in with fellow voters who feel similarly about the movies you're voting on and that posting takes place when others post. But reviews, exp, and the non-b/p part of VP are all independent, dog-eat-dog, Darwinian stats.

Well, if that is the case, then this dog just evolved so it can survive. Some targets manage not to fall.

It's the way of things that the underlings should want to take down the oppressors (yes, that means you should want to take me down, of course... we both are above AND below many many people in all the stats, neither of us is at the top or bottom of any stat ranking).

But you are closer to the top in all rankings compared to me, thus you should be the one with a greater desire to rise since you are so close.

Only NemesisM66 stopped gaining VP for awhile, and there could have been some interesting changing-of-the-guard shite goin' down. HT isn't going to grant us that same boon anytime soon.

No not really, it would just be Yoink, ramagi, etc with just Nemesism66 placed somewhere lower on the list, same with the experience boards.

Anyway, I hope I've fleshed out my OPINIONS (remember that) more fully this time. And next time it seems like I'm insulting you, please assume I didn't mean to, Kiba.

Well, you have fleshed them out, and now I hate every ounce of your being since you're still referring to me as Kiba. </wit>

Just ask Slightly_Crazy_Dude. I accidentally insulted him in level up! and similar mayhem ensued. (sigh)

Gez, you're just on a roll aren't you?

Well others can still pass NeMeSiSM66. If they actually wanted to and tried.

Pimp
humantarget52
Shrapnel
-bomb-
oblivion
BlueAsterisk
Mike27112
Yume 05/30/00

At 9/16/05 12:39 AM, gfoxcook wrote:

(hey, what's with the name changing all over the place lately? I hope you protected X-Naut with an alt this time)

I just had to lay low for a few days,X-Naut is back. >:)

When I first got EGSC, I jumped to #25 in the ranks, and then I moved up from #25 to #20 in a few months. And then it took me over a year to get from #20 to #15, so I know what you mean.

I'll take your word for it. =)

And yeah, I knows what you mean about the top 25. But trust me, once you increase that to the top 20, you want to hang on to that... and then with the top 15... and if you're in reach of the top 10, or have just fallen out of it after having made it (just ask Recon), the top 10 madness will set in as well. :::nods:::

Yeah your probably right since you've expierenced it yourself.

At 9/16/05 07:08 PM, AnzRage wrote: Well others can still pass NeMeSiSM66. If they actually wanted to and tried.

Why in the world did you make that post other than to raise your post count? Everyone is aware that people higher in experience than Nemesism66 can pass him through b/ping themselves. What relevance did this have to the conversation?

Yume 05/30/00

And not only that, all you did was copy and paste from the Users list and did a poor job editing it out. Why did you make this post? Also, to clarify it for you any of these users currently have the potential to pass Nemesism66 while he is depositing:

humantarget52: Needs Elite Guard Brigadier General to pass Nemesism66 currently.
Pimp: Same as humantarget52.
Shrapnel: Needs Elite Guard Major General to pass Nemesism66 currently.
-bomb-: Same as Shrapnel.
oblivion: Needs Elite Guard General to pass Nemesism66 currently.
BlueAsterisk: Same as oblivion.
Mike27112: Same as oblivion and BlueAsterisk.
Yume: Same as the previous 3 users.
Narcissus: Same as the previous 4 users.
ReverendYates: Same as the previous 5 users.
Brewed_Beaner: Needs Elite Guard Supreme Commander to pass Nemesism66 currently.
southy: Same as Brewed_Beaner.
innphernoe: Same as Brewed_Beaner and southy.

Not only did your post apply to absolutly nothing, it left out 5 possible candidates for passing Nemesism66. And I can tell you this as well, none of them have a probable chance of passing Nemesism66 in the near future. innphernoe is the closest with nearly 9,700 b/p points, yet if you check the current update here: http://www.newground..d=74269&page=231 you'd see his pace is far to slow to ever pose a threat. Even if he suddenly went b/p crazy out of the blue it would be around 200 days (this is assuming a 100 per day pace, which is very high might I say) before he managed to beat Nemesism66 in VP. Next closest is Narcissus who really has a long road ahead of him if he desires the #1 spot in VP. Perhaps a 250 day run considering a 100 day pace. And trust me, if they haven't done this over the 5 years they've been signed up, then there isn't very much of a chance it'll suddenly happen now. Which makes me pose this question on you. Why did you bother posting that?

PS: For the record, you're one of the few users I hate, have hated, and most likely will continue to hate. Don't take it personally, but I really dislike your posting style, you always seem to post things completely trivial and irrelevant just for the sake of posting.

Well GFixClick, this would be an example of me being annoyed/anger with someone. Which I was not with you. Sorry for any harsh feelings between us, you're one of the better users on this forum. If you think you annoy/anger me (which you said), you're wrong, silly.

At 9/17/05 01:57 AM, Xiivi wrote:

At 9/16/05 07:08 PM, AnzRage wrote: Well others can still pass NeMeSiSM66. If they actually wanted to and tried.

Why in the world did you make that post other than to raise your post count? Everyone is aware that people higher in experience than Nemesism66 can pass him through b/ping themselves. What relevance did this have to the conversation?

Well I didn't quote but they were fighting about letting NeMeSiSM66 die or not. Why are you always picking on me :(

Well I see on the last list I was lucky number 13. I fortunatly have someone depositing for me while I deal with things in the real world.
Maybe sometime I'll have more time for the net.

At 9/16/05 05:20 PM, Xiivi wrote: Surprised gfox? What did you expect me to say? "Ok, I won't deposit, sorry." And I'm seemingly miffed because I already told people, mainly yoink, to deal with it a while ago, yet you had to mention it more.

No, I just didn't expect you to act upset with my opinions about your depositing for Nemesis. That's all. You seem touchy about something that you seem to have no qualms about doing, and that seems strange to me. I also don't keep track of what you and yoink talk about, so... yeah. heh.

You may not have been serious, but you know, I was hoping people would just be quiet about it and let it pass.

See, that's the part I'm talking about now. What does it matter whether people are quiet about it and let it pass or whether they complain about it? It's not going to change your mind, you'd have to change it yourself, right?

If you ever decided to stop depositing for him (or he came back and started doing it himself), I'd be happy and I wouldn't care what the reason for it was. I wasn't trying to change your mind all on my own or shit, just expressing myself, yo. :::nods:::

But it bothers others, and you were the one who decided to make some comments about it. And thus, I took to my defense. I don't post much, as always, but I don't need people going around posting "Amir is TEH suck." Even if it is a joke, because, well...none of the new people will really ever see me, so I don't need them having bad INTERNET impressions of me.

But now you're accusing me of leading an anti-Amir army. I was speaking only for myself, what others think is no concern of mine with regard to this issue. They can agree with me, you, or have a third viewpoint. It's all good.

Haha, well, I'm sure this is taking a lot more than a minute now, now isn't it? Don't worry, I'm sure next Monday will be just as crappy.

You know I don't mind taking more than a minute to post long-ass meaningless (in the grand scheme of things) posts on NG BBS every now and then. And yeah, at least Mondays are predictable that way. It's when the other days of the workweek suck that I get upset. #;-}>

I can't believe you think I hate you or something. You're one of the more laid back people here, I never really see you get mad at anyone. Nor did I think you were that upset.

And I can't believe that the line you were just replying to means I think you hate me. The "Dude... what you must think of me. ;_;" was me with my tongue firmly in my cheek, man. Semi-sarcasm. Joking-like. Oy... (sigh) #;-}>

But at the same time, seriously, I didn't know why you were taking things I said so personally, really. It was almost like you thought I didn't want you specifically depositing for NemesisM66, when of course as I tried to relate in part of the posts... it doesn't matter who's depositing for #1 in exp or #1 in VP, either way I don't like to see it but it's not that huge of a deal. End of summary.

You were just the spokesperson for some who were upset, and thus you took the arguement.

HEY! As I just said, I'm no spokesperson for anyone but myself on this matter! #;-}>

I like old accounts, I prefer old over new. I'd rather see fixit continuing to climb and reach heights never thought possible than someone rising through the ranks and passing him. That's just the type of person I am. You call it a competition, I'll use that as my example. I'd rather see an all-star athlete make some more records than dropping out for new people to play. That's how I work.

Well, on NG it's more likely to work the way you like it, but in reality, that doesn't fly. Every athelete has the POTENTIAL to have his day, but no matter how much motivation or talent is fueling him, he will one day fail, age, and die. And new generations will try to hit those marks.

It's not a negative thing entirely, though it's very dog-eat-dog on some levels. But that type of competition is usually in part to HONOUR those that came before, as well.

Though a lot of us who have passed fixit have scoffed at the dead robot and kicked at him in jest, we (well, I think we, I know I) respected his abilities when he was in his prime (when his switch was on!), and passing him was an honour to both him and me, I think. :::shrugs:::

Passing, getting passed, or staying at the same rank... they're all only what you make them out to be. If it bothers you that much to have NM66 passed in exp or VP, then I hope you feel better now that you're saving him from that fate, at least.

I just say what I feel like saying.

Which is exactly what I was doing in the post that started this all, which wasn't even directed at you, but then you got all huffy about it. See why I was surprised now? #;-}>

Nothing gives me the right to tell you that you can't complain, but I sure do have the right to complain about your complaints.

Well duh. I never told you to stop complaining about my complaining, I just asked you to stop telling ME to stop complaining (which you did twice! </anal>). #;-}>

But that's how you sounded, thus you could work on tone as well. *normally sassy smiley goes here*

True enough.

Or it could be passed on to the future generation so the past doesn't die out, like many of the older accounts have tended to do, and it sucks to be frank. I'm not one for changes when it comes to placements. When I see a #1, it annoys me seeing it change, I'm static, not dynamic.

It sucks if they ALL die. But if some die, it's only natural.

I like a mix of static and dynamic. 100% static = violates the laws of physics/nature. It'd be like a universe without any entropy (which would be nice, but it doesn't work that way).

Ah, but there is one major flaw in your logic gfox. And that is I DO do that. I've attempted to contact everyone in the top 100 experience that isn't depositing, and then some. What you don't realize is that I deposit for 12 accounts daily.

Well see, I didn't know that. I think I do remember you talking about talking with Kitty, but I didn't realise you deposited for that many accounts. Consider me edumacated on the matter. This changes my perspective on a lot of what I had presumed, so I apologise about that. I thought you were giving Nem special attention when you truly do care about any old accounts. I still don't agree with what you're doing and I wish you wouldn't do it for Nem's account in particular, but I respect your decision and fervor about it.

Ironically, of course, I deposited for Chunky/ChunkyMan for about a month or two in early 2004. Bedn stole/borrowed/wasgivenaccess (depending on whose account you believe of the whole situation) the account and then asked me to deposit for it. It was level 23 (had fallen from level 24), and because I love level 24 so much, I decided to go ahead and do what Bedn wanted and at the same time gain the vicarious thrill of leveling up to 24.

And so I did. And then Bedn took it back and changed the password, so I deduced he didn't want me depositing for it anymore and wanted to use it to post with on the BBS (which he did, and then got himself banned from his main account for awhile in the process of doing so, big surprise).

Anyway, I'm only telling you that story to show that I've been a party to a similar thing as what you do routinely, apparently, and that we're probably not as ideologically apart on these issues as your first post (and my first post) on this matter may have suggested.

Peace? #;-}>

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At 9/16/05 05:22 PM, Xiivi wrote: I mean, if we have a user with over 15 VP, then doesn't that show how dedicated NGers are?

If we have a user over 15VP, it just reminds me that I could have been over 15VP on March 3rd, 2004 (the day I hit EGSC) had I not missed so much exp.

And thus been "undedicated to NG" as you just basically alluded to. That part of it doesn't please me. But, as it happens, I'm more against you exping for NemesisM66 than I am against you b/ping for him, funnily enough. Don't expect my emotional reaction to things to be entirely logical or even entirely self-centered. Some reasons I have are about me in particular, but most aren't in this case.

I really don't mind the humantarget effect. It just makes things more challenging, I don't see why people complain so much. Well, the favour theory doesn't apply to me, but I do plan on getting him to EGSC once I'm on a secure place on the top 50.

Level gaps will soon be increasing beyond 1000 points apart. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. So even if you think the humantarget effect is a good thing (and I don't necessarily think it's a bad one, I'm kinda ambivalent on it, really)... it's starting to get towards that "too much" range.

Upping the levelcount to 50 or 60 would really take a huge bite out of those level ranges, and I wish that would happen in some ways (yet I value tradition as well, and the current 30 level system remaining for decades would be fine with me as well).

Everyone does that, but whenever they do it it only leads to things like this. And I finding bitching about your bitching to be fun as well; you bitch.

It doesn't always lead to stuff like this, only when the other person is a total bitch, you bitch. #;-}>

IMHO (ohh, I outdid you there GFixClick)

Yeah, only I was just IMOing, not IMHOing, because I didn't feel like injecting possibly-false claims of humility into the discussion. You fake-humble bastard. #;-}>

And what's this GFixClick stuff about? I kinda like the sound of that. Makes me think of how I like to fix things (like any fuck-ups in my posts) with a click of the mouse (either by editing 'em on ADGBC, adminning them on RG, or mod-deleting them and reposting them on NG... ahhhhh, the varied options to edit and correct myself I have access to... soooo nice).

I do see it the same. Nemesism66 said he may consider coming back at some time, so I think of it as an extended vacation.

I hope he does come back.

Because then more people will decide to complain and join in until everyone complains.

People will complain if they feel like it, they don't have to wait for me to do it. I'm not the leader of exp/VP related complaints on this site. O_o

Don't put words in my mouth, I never said you didn't have the right to complain, I just didn't like you complaining and asked you to stop.

You seemed to be implying it. And now I find out the reason is that you think I was going to start a complaint stampede. Clearly, since we're the only two people talking about this subject in here (okay, there are three, I guess), your fears were unfounded.

I like having Nemesism66 at the top, it seems right. It was weird when fixit finally feel, because he always seemed the right person to be at the top. When tanner wasn't the highest in post count it seemed weird. So if ~X~ or HT52 ever fall, then it'll seem weird to me. As with Nemesism66.

Dude, if you like having the same person at the top who was always at the top, then why the hell would you think fixit always seemed to be the right person? Almost since the beginning of the b/p system, ramagi has been on the top. fixit's stay at the top didn't even last for a year. ramagi's time at the top before that was legendary, lasted over a year, and now she's been on top AGAIN for over a year. Even if MPA stays on top after she leaves for a year, her time there collectively between her pre-fixit and post-fixit reigns will outdo fixit PLUS MPA's time at the top.

That's how much SHE deserved to be at the top. Ayup. #;-}>

Now, I agree with you about XwaynecoltX. When KWAS takes him down, I'll shed a little tear.

But HT hasn't always been at the top of the exp list, and Pimp, Shrapnel, bomb, oblivion... I'd love to see one of them at the top (again, in the case of some of them).

Well, if that is the case, then this dog just evolved so it can survive. Some targets manage not to fall.

I suppose that's true. I just prefer it when an account manages not to fall because a single person won't let it. The same person that created it and steered it all along.

(my god, this time it's three posts... I edited 'em all some, but I don't have the energy to decide what to keep and what to dump in the trash, so I'm just posting it all.... this time, at least. MUST... BE... STRONGER... NEXT... REPLY... #;-}>)

But you are closer to the top in all rankings compared to me, thus you should be the one with a greater desire to rise since you are so close.

Nope. I have super high blams, I have no desire to rise higher (aside from hitting 36,000 due to my fave number being 36).

I have super low reviews (relatively), and while I would love to have 1000 or more, I don't have a high enough desire to rise higher.

I wish I could keep going with saves forever, but I want to retire from that rat race as well, at least for now, so I'm stopping at 24,000 and will blam/save equally with my alt, at a very slow pace.

The only thing I have a super desire for right now is to increase my exp, and that comes naturally, slowly, and steadily with each and every day. I want to get to level 20, 24, and 25. That too will come with patience.

And I'd like to hit 10k posts, but not enough to actually post a ton. In fact, the pruner has been setting me back quite a bit lately but as long as I break even a few days later, I'm cool with that, too.

Point being, my desire for a stat has nothing to do with how high or how low it is, really, and can change and shift depending on what's going on in my online AND offline life.

Well, you have fleshed them out, and now I hate every ounce of your being since you're still referring to me as Kiba. </wit>

Hardy har har harbaki.

Gez, you're just on a roll aren't you?

Not really. That was months and months ago. I'm pretty lucky with my low rate of upsetting others. It helps that I don't post often. #;-}>

At 9/17/05 01:57 AM, Xiivi wrote:

At 9/16/05 07:08 PM, AnzRage wrote: Well others can still pass NeMeSiSM66. If they actually wanted to and tried.

Why in the world did you make that post other than to raise your post count? Everyone is aware that people higher in experience than Nemesism66 can pass him through b/ping themselves. What relevance did this have to the conversation?

He felt left out that I was the only one getting yelled at (EXAGGERATION ALERT: PREVIOUS STATEMENT FOR COMIC EFFECT ONLY, DO NOT TAKE OFFENSE YO!), so he decided to get in on some of that action!

Yume 05/30/00

And not only that, all you did was copy and paste from the Users list and did a poor job editing it out. Why did you make this post? Also, to clarify it for you any of these users currently have the potential to pass Nemesism66 while he is depositing:

Heh.

Anyway, I don't want any of those bastards to pass Nemesis in VP either. They are only dedicated to exp, not to b/p, and it should be someone dedicated to both (like ramagi and Yoink) who pass Nemesis, if anyone ever does.

That said...

Narcissus: Same as the previous 4 users.
innphernoe: Same as Brewed_Beaner and southy.

Those two users have had their periods of good blam/save habits. They deserve their high VPs and even higher. Despite the fact that innphernoe will pass me in VP if he goes back to b/ping. :::nods:::

PS: For the record, you're one of the few users I hate, have hated, and most likely will continue to hate. Don't take it personally, but I really dislike your posting style, you always seem to post things completely trivial and irrelevant just for the sake of posting.

;_; ouch...

Well GFixClick, this would be an example of me being annoyed/anger with someone. Which I was not with you. Sorry for any harsh feelings between us, you're one of the better users on this forum. If you think you annoy/anger me (which you said), you're wrong, silly.

Yeah, I noticed. I'm glad I didn't draw the true WRATH OF KAHN... er... KIBA! ... er... AMIR! ... er... XIIVI!

(do I REALLY need to call you that? You will always be Kiba to me. :::shrugs:::)

...

OGM... TEH END!

At 9/17/05 01:47 AM, X-Naut wrote: I just had to lay low for a few days,X-Naut is back. >:)

Glad to see it!

I'll take your word for it. =)

You'd better!

Yeah your probably right since you've expierenced it yourself.

Me and Crono have experienced about the same, due to our 100-150ish exp gap over the past couple of years and due to hitting EGSC in early 2004, the both of us. And Recon even moreso, at this point, though he EGSCed a bit later in mid-2004... his higher exp makes him more of a party to the edge-of-the-top-10 funs (or lack thereof). :::nods:::

Holy cow! My Voting Power just shot up 10 spots or so in just a few days! From 9.89 to 10.04, I am happy.

Just to make sure, is the only way to increase the power to vote when movies are under judgement?

Ryan

At 9/18/05 07:59 PM, RyanAn wrote: Just to make sure, is the only way to increase the power to vote when movies are under judgement?

Ryan

And depositing, of course. Everytime you rank-up in the B/P ranks, you get a VP boost.

At 9/20/05 12:15 PM, Nightmare wrote:

At 9/15/05 01:15 AM, iscRulz wrote: Thanks you should get those b/p you have the potential to be in top 20. Anyways I wonder if I should update this weekly on saturday or do it whenever the list goes inactive for awhile.

Yeah I try to when I can but some days I just lose all interest and don't vote at all other than to deposit. During Clock Day I was on almost all day and racked up so many points it was ridiculous.

Well I am not b/p like I use to this past summer in the last week I am only gain 30 points a day the next b/p 51+ update should be a lot lower pace for me. and I need to get in the general ranks to be in the top 100. Anyways in 16 days you should be ready for daily2oons day. Hopefully it will be a save fest like clockday.